Who was hurt..no one..

Some Dogs fans, sponsors, perhaps players and very likely some players wives may have been offended.  

My aunt and girl cousin who were die-hard dogs fans walked away from the club after a similar incident..

I know it was consensual, and as such I'm not particularly offended, but I don't speak for all fans.

We always pay a price, even when it is consensual, because media portrayal and fan perceptions are important... I'm sure the club weighed it all up and it wasn't an easy decision.

All parties are guilty or poor judgement on a spur of the moment basis IMO, but there is always a price, running a red light might be spur the moment and there may be a price.

It's not the "whataboutism" on whether the club terminated them or not, it's the "whataboutism" of an NRLol heirachy that is so inconsistant that the they spruik one thing and fail to enforce their own standards. The Dogs did what they thought was right and the NRLol said they wont tolerate bad behaviour from players. The problem is they already have and it shows the NRLol to be inconsistant  and incompetent. How can fans take the governing body seriously under these circumstances.

I'm livid.
More so that we let go of CHN.

As I've said before, our gamestyle is outdated and doesnt succeed in the modern game. We need guys like CHN who play the game differently to help the club build a new style that can match the speed of the top teams.

Sacking him has sent us back 2 years. 

It would not surprise me they sacked him not because of the incident itself but the current lockdown circumstances. Just like the Rashays sponsor, the club may have used this "opportunity" to dismiss him (and OK) to free up some cash liability.

On that reason alone I am disgusted with the club.

At the end if the day, if this corona virus pandemic didnt put their non illegal actions into perspective.....nothing would.

Sad day for the club

They'll be allowed back on the basis that TTT will no longer be there and the decision to deregister was at his discretion and not the NRL.

I wholeheartedly disagree.
Our 2004 team had alot of renegade players yet collectively they could beat anyone and culminated in a premiership (our last 1 I might add) 

You can have a team of top or skillful players and they can all be ar'se holes but they can still win you a premiership. Nice guys dont do well in this comp

Morally repugnant but not illegal...wrongful dismissal lawyers will have a field day. But players who bash females are allowed to play on...and player who drive a powerful car at excessive speed whilst intoxicated are given a slap on the wrist...is Chris Murphy still going...he'd be salivating. There is something in me that wants to see them own that lily livered swine Greenberg and co. 

Marki I have no doubt CHN will pick himself up another contract.... probably for more $$$ especially with the desperate Warriors looking for forwards at present.... but unfortunately it’s the right decision to move him & JO on. 

I'm now a father to a little girl.
When she was born I was looking forward to us having daddy daughter dates watching our beloved bulldogs and raising a new generation of bulldog supporters. 
When those awful sex videos came out last year I was completely turned off the players and the game and the last thing I wanted was to watch pornstar wannabe players chasing a ball with my daughter. 
I couldn't get myself to watch any game last year. I was beginning to mellow out during this off season and revisited the idea of having the bulldogs as a daddy/daughter weekly activity. 
That was going well until these 2 idiots did the exact thing I was trying to shield my daughter from. 
Fatherhood changes you and we should be expecting better from our sons who are becoming increasingly porn addicted and their actions show it. 
We are a modern professional multi billion dollar sport. These things shouldn't be happening in this day and age.
I'm very happy with the bulldogs decision. Might reconsider watching a game. 

Can't go shopping.  Don't know what the salary cap will be going forward and we don't know what players may end up on the market as a result of club financial difficulties

In a case like this the NRL should nominate a date before which the players cannot be registered.  If they are allowed to go elsewhere in the near future the decision is poor and should have been a suspension. Having said that I have no problem with deregistration.
As I have previously said this has been poorly handled by the club and NRL.  It was a breach of club rules, not a legal matter.  Harrasment of the girls and their families was always going to be a consequence of this being played out so publicly.  It's hard not to feel the girls and their families were sacrificed to make the club and NRL look good

Just want a level playing field probably sums it up

Not as bad as having the  the image of an evil KGB dictator against your name..time to shoot down an errant passenger jet or two

Oh yeah a lot of talent, enough to dominate for 4 years maybe more. But it took a siege mentality to focus them to win in '04, then the following year gave one of the most p.ss weak title defences in the modern era and then started partying half time in the GFQF of '06 before tearing the club apart.

If they had half the qualities of man that I'm talking about they would have had 3 maybe 4 GF's in a row and if there wasn't at least 2 titles from it they would've considered it a failure - but they failed to even get that far.

And on your last sentence, let me tell you about a player with a limited skill set, he'll tell you that and he has, his coach will tell you that and he has. Yet because of the qualities of the type of bloke he is he worked harder than most of his peers. He was the one doing extras or up until 4am icing his injuries while others were out screwing school girls in motel rooms.

He was a nice guy, no great natural talent - he had to construct it all. Did alright too - six Premierships. Bloke's name was Cooper Cronk.

That little bit between the ears counted a lot

How come these ones that were out screwing school girls didn't get their contracts torn up or did you add that for effect.

The entire club is on life support. Be a damn miracle if we survive all this. 

The facts are the club had all relevant info, and they made the call, fans have to accept it, it isn't going to change.

A lot of talented players are DHs, that is because their talent has allowed them to get away with it, and others have turned a blind eye.

But it isn't an absolute requirement to be a DH to be talented, and a team with the right leadership can keep the DHs mostly in check. 
In footy, players can push the edge and even go over the edge on the field, that is penalised by the judiciary system,  everyone accepts it, and any scandal/drama typically doesn't last long. 

Off field in the modern era, the public has a low tolerance, the media are quick to report and it is very different to past eras when the media may have turned a blind eye.

So the bar is low here, we mostly want talent in key positions, Wakeham, Averillo, JMK, DWZ and Meaney are filling these positions, these guys don't seem like DHs, nether did CHN and JO before the incident. 

Outside of key positions we mostly want guys who can be DHs on the field, DHs off the field as long as they don't break the law or get involved in consensual sex that looks bad.. it is a low bar...  

And you are right, all good sport performance is built on discipline and self control, that starts off the field. Run wild off the field usually that show up on field sooner or later.,, you need to be immortal level talent for it not to show.

We have been though worse.. the leagues club has a lot of assets.. core of the team is there, fans are very loyal and deserve some reward.

The leagues club may be our only hope and its doors are shut. Plus this is the lowest i have ever seen the collective morale of supporters. Losing 2 personality players is just another huge kick in the teeth for us. 

When I say assets the league club owns a lot of real estate, that can be used to secure loans..

I've seen enough to convince me Wakeham and Averillo are the future, we just need to get on the field and play good footy, fans will soon come on board. 

At the end of the day team performance and results count more than personality players.. the Gold Coast have signed plenty of personality players.

In tough times like this the club just has to survive.

Sponsors will come on board, some that left may change their mind, some female (and male) fans that left may change their mind,.. 

We will find the next personality player soon enough...

My favourite Dogs team of all time was the 1979/1980 team, we had personality players, but not many DHs,at the time I even thought Heaps was a good guy, fans are very happy to adopt players, especially in winning teams playing attractive football.. the players don't need bling, tats, fancy hair and body builder build etc... OK some fans ;like Marki and Dman really dig those "bad boy" types.... Hmmmm...

I like your attitude. I'm not going anywhere that's for sure. Lets hope there are more of us. 

OK some soccer talk for Dman...

I saw a replay of the last game Sir Alex Ferguson coaching Manchester United, the interesting stats are he coached them for 26 years, winning 38 titles, and the first title he won was their first in 26 years. When they appointed him, they were sure they had the right guy, and they were right.

This shows how it goes in sport, it is hard to build a winning formula, but when you have it you can often cash in and win multiple titles and the core culture can last 10--20 years..  

It all starts with being patient, making the tough decisions and making the right decisions.and getting the right coach/admin.. it never starts with personality players...and it rarely starts with a massive recruitment drive and a big cash splash... there are plenty of big cash splashes that go nowhere.. plenty of personality players who don't justify their salary and plenty of personality players who divide teams or are the first guy to slacken off when the going gets tough. 

I say we bring back Jarred Hickey. 

& Justin toulous & kevin Moore as coach 

A winning culture right there 

Just want 2 ask why didn’t Adam elliett get 
the sack ? He was naked singing sweet Caroline I think his was worst the  c h Neria 2 me it don’t make sense elliett is still here as if his any better what he had dun & brought this club down 

"Following this and an early season run of six defeats and two draws in eight games, a banner declaring, "Three years of excuses and it's still crap ... ta-ra Fergie." was displayed at Old Trafford, and many journalists and supporters called for Ferguson to be sacked"

... not much success first 3 seasons... then FA cup win... maybe saves his coaching career..

It took about 5 years to get to the top of the pile.....

Sir Deano Pay ... "It is what it is .. your majesty ... stop waving that sword around.."  :)

If you can't see the difference, not much point in trying to explain it.  Just to say school visits should never be sexual recruitment drives.  

It's the same as any other business. It can declare itself bankrupt and when NRL resumes, it can reapply as a new entity.

Whether the NRL registers the club is another story but if we are in trouble, I can think of another 7 Sydney clubs in the same boat.

As soon as our leagues club is operational again, we will start to churn a profit and money will start flowing again.