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Marki - 1 Jul 2021 8:22 PM
Fekk me.

Did you see what Nicho Hynes just did? 
Kick return and goes all the way.
Rubbished Tedesco on the way.

Yep.. took advantage a a crap kick and chase, then took advantage of slippery conditions to beat Teddy... what’s your point???...
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dman2018 - 1 Jul 2021 7:10 PM
Marki - 1 Jul 2021 7:03 PM

FMD... so now you’re a Broncos supporter in addition to roosters, saints, Parra and Melbourne???...


No. 
I'm a supporter of good decisions.
It's all relative Dman.... 
If the whole league is shit, we just have to be slightly better than shit to be ahead of the pack.

But if the whole league is making smart, astute decisions with their roster and improving themselves,  we cant judge ourselves on being better than what we were last year. We need to be better than the rest of the league.

It's like improving 10% on last years 15th place. It's useless if everyone else improves 20%
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dman2018 - 1 Jul 2021 7:16 PM
hounddog - 1 Jul 2021 7:09 PM

No I mean front loading....
We have a bunch of players that don’t deserve big coin... and some that do....
Pay the players not worth big bucks what they’re worth (not overs) then front load a bloke on $600K a year with $700K  this year... then he’s only $500K out of the cap next year...

Thank you.
At last someone that understands the logic and proper management of it.
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Marki - 1 Jul 2021 8:22 PM
Fekk me.

Did you see what Nicho Hynes just did? 
Kick return and goes all the way.
Rubbished Tedesco on the way.

Also notice you didn’t pipe up when he dropped the ball cold or passed to he passed to Olam when he should’ve gone to JAC....
Had a bulldog done either of those you’d have been up in arms...
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dman2018 - 1 Jul 2021 8:23 PM
Marki - 1 Jul 2021 8:22 PM

Yep.. took advantage a a crap kick and chase, then took advantage of slippery conditions to beat Teddy... what’s your point???...

Slippery?
It was his dummy of setting up JAC and turning Teddy inside-out. It was class. Jamie Lyon-like.


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The Mock making it obvious his allegiances are swapping to the Storm now that the roosters aren’t the team they were... 

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Marki - 1 Jul 2021 8:30 PM
dman2018 - 1 Jul 2021 8:23 PM

Slippery?
It was his dummy of setting up JAC and turning Teddy inside-out. It was class. Jamie Lyon-like.


So it’s not slippery out there???.... 
Do u even rugby league???...
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Marki - 1 Jul 2021 8:26 PM
dman2018 - 1 Jul 2021 7:16 PM

Thank you.
At last someone that understands the logic and proper management of it.

I’m sure others understand it... it’s just that no one is a cocksure as you it isn’t happening...I’d suspect if u get it, the Board does...
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dman2018 - 1 Jul 2021 8:27 PM
Marki - 1 Jul 2021 8:22 PM

Also notice you didn’t pipe up when he dropped the ball cold or passed to he passed to Olam when he should’ve gone to JAC....
Had a bulldog done either of those you’d have been up in arms...

Mate next to Cleary, he is arguably the most in-form player in the comp.

Great buy by Sharks. 
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Marki - 1 Jul 2021 8:25 PM
dman2018 - 1 Jul 2021 7:10 PM

No. 
I'm a supporter of good decisions.
It's all relative Dman.... 
If the whole league is shit, we just have to be slightly better than shit to be ahead of the pack.

But if the whole league is making smart, astute decisions with their roster and improving themselves,  we cant judge ourselves on being better than what we were last year. We need to be better than the rest of the league.

It's like improving 10% on last years 15th place. It's useless if everyone else improves 20%

Yeah... astute decisions like employing Walters as head coach..
Bronco lover....
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Marki - 1 Jul 2021 8:35 PM
dman2018 - 1 Jul 2021 8:27 PM

Mate next to Cleary, he is arguably the most in-form player in the comp.

Great buy by Sharks. 

Turbo...
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dman2018 - 1 Jul 2021 8:36 PM
Marki - 1 Jul 2021 8:25 PM

Yeah... astute decisions like employing Walters as head coach..
Bronco lover....

I dont like the Broncos....
I just think they've done the smart thing.

Look, we are competing with them and are both coming 15th and 16th for the last 2 years with new coaches and coming off a SC mess. 

You are throwing stones at Walters but we arent in any better position. 
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dman2018 - 1 Jul 2021 8:38 PM
Marki - 1 Jul 2021 8:35 PM

Turbo...

Ok. One of the in-form players. 
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Marki - 1 Jul 2021 8:41 PM
dman2018 - 1 Jul 2021 8:36 PM

I dont like the Broncos....
I just think they've done the smart thing.

Look, we are competing with them and are both coming 15th and 16th for the last 2 years with new coaches and coming off a SC mess. 

You are throwing stones at Walters but we arent in any better position. 

Bronco lover...
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dman2018 - 1 Jul 2021 8:43 PM
Marki - 1 Jul 2021 8:41 PM

Bronco lover...

Am not...
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The Chooks have been plucked.
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hounddog - 1 Jul 2021 9:39 PM
The Chooks have been plucked.

They copped a Hyne-ding...
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dman2018 - 1 Jul 2021 6:41 PM
A shout out to Villi!!! I hope you’re enjoying your 50th birthday mate...

Blood in
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Cheers Douglas
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hounddog - 1 Jul 2021 9:39 PM

They copped a Hyne-ding...

Fox in the hen house.
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Not a massive signing, but the Titans signing Isaac Liu from the Roosters surely means Herman Ese Ese is on his way out of that club. 

He was someone we were linked with in the past, if a deal with Titans chipping in could be reached, I reckon he’d be a good buy especially coming off the bench. 

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In fairness the Bulldogs are Marki's second team....if only his first team wasn't the 15 others. 
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Villi - 2 Jul 2021 10:04 AM
Not a massive signing, but the Titans signing Isaac Liu from the Roosters surely means Herman Ese Ese is on his way out of that club. 

He was someone we were linked with in the past, if a deal with Titans chipping in could be reached, I reckon he’d be a good buy especially coming off the bench. 

Herman used to play for us...

His career hasn't kicked on as expected, perhaps a better option than Odgen.

It would be great if we could get Odgen fitter and improve his defence, the potential is there, but he doesn't seem to be able to step up, Herman isn't that different. Maybe a change of scene might work for both.

I recon seafood is a better player now than his last NRL stint, more focused and professional, fewer dumb errors. I was hoping Atoni and Odgen might learn from his example.

You only get one shot at an NRL career, I bet the time passes quickly, before players know it they are retired or relagated to reserve grade for the rest of their career. Attitude and hunger are a big part of getting it right. The coach always notices guys not putting in 100% in defence, a player has to be fit enough to aim up.
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Steveswr33333 - 2 Jul 2021 11:23 AM
In fairness the Bulldogs are Marki's second team....if only his first team wasn't the 15 others. 

That's just unfair Steve.....
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hounddog - 2 Jul 2021 1:33 PM
Villi - 2 Jul 2021 10:04 AM

Herman used to play for us...

His career hasn't kicked on as expected, perhaps a better option than Odgen.

It would be great if we could get Odgen fitter and improve his defence, the potential is there, but he doesn't seem to be able to step up, Herman isn't that different. Maybe a change of scene might work for both.

I recon seafood is a better player now than his last NRL stint, more focused and professional, fewer dumb errors. I was hoping Atoni and Odgen might learn from his example.

You only get one shot at an NRL career, I bet the time passes quickly, before players know it they are retired or relagated to reserve grade for the rest of their career. Attitude and hunger are a big part of getting it right. The coach always notices guys not putting in 100% in defence, a player has to be fit enough to aim up.

I dont think you get only 1 chance...
You get a couple especially at bottom clubs like us, Broncos, Tigers etc.
Some even get several chances and it's just desperation from clubs that keep giving them a go.

The top clubs are more ruthless and tend to have stable rosters so your chances to make it and stay in the 1st grade team are certainly limited.

Look at Flano at the Roosters. Was let go at drop offs hat, yet for us he is in and out of the team. Wont get many more chances if he doesnt make a fist of it till Wakeham returns.....



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Marki - 2 Jul 2021 3:16 PM
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I dont think you get only 1 chance...
You get a couple especially at bottom clubs like us, Broncos, Tigers etc.
Some even get several chances and it's just desperation from clubs that keep giving them a go.

The top clubs are more ruthless and tend to have stable rosters so your chances to make it and stay in the 1st grade team are certainly limited.

Look at Flano at the Roosters. Was let go at drop offs hat, yet for us he is in and out of the team. Wont get many more chances if he doesnt make a fist of it till Wakeham returns.....



Yes, but years tick by when you don't take chances.
Young players get the benefit of the doubt, as a player gets older and has a track record of failure they really have to earn their opportunity.

With the current speed of the game, the fitness demands are high.
More interchanges might help, but some players will not be able to get fit enough, it is hard work.
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Its about long term plan ODF not short term.
If we focus only on forwards and hookers, in a couple of years when we realise we are desperate for a top line young fullback, there will be non available or you'll pay over 1M.

Nicko Hynes was a lost opportunity at a value price. 

Im not discounting the need for a good hooker or prop, our team needs more than 1 area of improvement. But you have to take the opportunities when they present and not bury your head in the sand and then ask why there is no opportunity when you want it.

Nico Hynes is over rated. It would surprise me if he looks even half as good at Cronulla than what he is now. If Avo played in the Melbourne side he would be a superstar. He should be developed into our fullback if we don’t have somebody better coming through. 
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I recon Teddy was great in SOO2, he put in a lot of work.

I think that might have taken a lot out of him, that is one reason why the Chooks might not have been able to go with the Storm.

In term of fitness in the modern game, the hooker and fullback have to be 2 of the fittest players in the side and heavily involved in a lot of the play.

That is my only reservation about JAC, will he be fit enough and involved enough?

Meaney was better than DWZ and Hoppa, but a real step down from the levels of involvement Teddy has.

Of our hookers JMK isn't bad, but a more energetic, physically aggressive or smart hooker would add to our squad. Brains and energy would be good, but I'll settle for either one.
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Marki - 1 Jul 2021 4:53 PM

Nico Hynes is over rated. It would surprise me if he looks even half as good at Cronulla than what he is now. If Avo played in the Melbourne side he would be a superstar. He should be developed into our fullback if we don’t have somebody better coming through. 

Good player, NRL standard but not a superstar.

I recon Avo, Burton and JAC are all better players.

Avo would be a good fullback, he is also a good half.

We really need JAC to fire, he is a critical signing for us at a critical time.

Avo should be the first player signed for the next 10 years, Topine is also a keeper.
We have some good young players, they should be the priority.
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hounddog - 2 Jul 2021 5:23 PM
Micko - 2 Jul 2021 5:14 PM

Good player, NRL standard but not a superstar.

I recon Avo, Burton and JAC are all better players.

Avo would be a good fullback, he is also a good half.

We really need JAC to fire, he is a critical signing for us at a critical time.

Avo should be the first player signed for the next 10 years, Topine is also a keeper.
We have some good young players, they should be the priority.

They're all good. Hynes is now an established top player. He has added a new dimension to the Storm. I'd say he is easily pick of the bunch. Not discounting the rest.

It would have been real good to get a livewire centre like Olam or Staggs or someone similar. It has as massive effect on how well JAC plays. Hopefully Schoup can gain confidence to be that kind of player. Allen I'm afraid is a solid player but wont set the world on fire or create enough for JAC if he's on the wing.
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Yesterday I had a weird conversation with a work collegue who is a mad keen storm supporter. He said to me "didn't you blokes (Dogs) sign Brody Croft?". I didn't even know if he was available. Has anyone heard any rumours?
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