Go follow someone else Mr. Holier than thou.  

This club had lost much better players in the past
So i dont think a wana be string 1st grader in
Elliett would be a real lost mybe he can get a job
In ba da bing in kings x & get paided 2 strip
This club is being tarnished enough im so over
All the bad garbage written so you through
The. Garbage out

That was the best ball handling Eastwood did all season.  Too soon?

pffffftttt.  

Marki you are assuming Greenburg is his own man. Wrong. Greenburg won't lift a finger to help out the dogs. He knows Newscorp would turn on him all the more....let the Dogs take all the heat is Todd's mantra.

I dont disagree with what you say but if it can be proven that it all happened behind closed doors and the Telecrap went out of it's way to take photos of our guys (rather than in view of public) then I sincerely hope we include that in the report to Greenburg and NRL and cite the Telecrap as "not talking up the game".
Remember..... all Greenburg cares about is the game as a product. He already has had run-ins with Telecrap journos not talking the game up, and he'll be lenient if we can prove it.

You are basically right, but see Nancy's post below.

All we did wrong was underestimate the Telcrap's level of desperation and motivation, that is easy to do, because we don't think like they do. 

But it is easy to keep your clothes on, or pick a venue where no one can see you with your gear off, or gear off is 100% legal and accepted. 

I don't blame the players our players 2000-2004 did far worse, our lot are probably better individuals, and better behaved than the players at most clubs.

But we should learn our lesson, if we were not already paranoid about media coverage of Mad Monday, then we should be paranoid.

It is still possible for the team to have fun and let of steam, just pick the right venue, it not a major drama.

Listen you're wrong with what you think have the right to do or not to do. If they didn't have the right to take those photographs they wouldn't be on the front of the Telegraph.

Deal with the real world not the one you want it to be.

Anyway, f*** it, don't you think even if it was behind closed doors in the club it wouldn't be too hard to set simple ground rules like - if you're gonna get sh.t-faced, just keep your clothes on and your hands off the equipment.

Not that there's anything wrong with that if that's your thing - but how about taking it home and doing there.

Remember they were in pub, you can talk about roped off areas and private functions and all the rest of it but so what? They were in a pub and got their gear off and  handled the luggage.

Like f*** me man, if something's gonna go wrong, anything, it gets worse when you're in a pub and you get your gear off and fiddle with the knobs.

It never ends well.

And it's all our fault.

Oh yeah, that was way over the top Tony....... You gotta keep a close eye on those journos.... they blend in with the humans!!!!

Well that's a bit over the top Zef.
It doesn't matter what any of us think or who we blame, the fact is that it was a private function AND away from public eye, the photographers that took photos from obviously obscure vantage points with telephoto lenses, were not invited to the function and therefore had no right to even possess such photos. And then to publish them front page in a national tabloid........... It's a wonder the club doesn't sue their ar$es off.

Well that's a bit over the top Tony.

But I won't join in blaming The Tele, blaming Greenburg, blaming everyone but us.

It was our fault, it was ALL our fault.

No not a hanging offense, not even a suspending offense IMO, but somebody probably will be and that probably will be Elliot - and that's our fault, ALL our fault.

You can blame The Tele and Greenburg all you like, but as was pointed out by some talking head the other day, the #1, #2, #3 and you can go on viewed stories on the Tele's website were The Bulldogs Mad Monday Story or stories associated with it. So who do you blame for reading it - The Tele, Greenburg? How about US as in the general public (whether you clicked or not). The public reads this sh.t and puts in #1 on The Tele's website with a bullet, so how can you blame The Tele for giving them exactly what they want?

This time next year (or hopefully after GF Day) when we have our 2019 Mad Monday, The Tele knowing that the biggest story they had on Mad Monday 2018 was us, is gonna be all over wherever we go, hoping to capture something that the general reading public has shown that they want to see.

So who's fault is it gonna be next year if we f*** up again, who will you blame then?

This is our fault, we did it, suck it up, get over it, get on with it. DON'T make the same mistake a THIRD TIME.

Tony look into the facts and reconsider this... Elliott had a reasonable expectation that he was in a private unobserved location.

Because we were silly enough to not consider that journalists would go to extraordinary lengths to observe and photograph. 

No one was hurt, no real sensible person should even be offended, if he walked down Pitt street naked it might be different. 

Other players have down far worse and are still paying, I will not rattle of a list of names as I will get RSI from typing.

Ill go 1 step further adam elliett is a fool
By stripping & i expect the bulldogs 2 terminate
His contract period im sick of fools as he is bringing
This club down Byby adam & dont let the door hit you
No one is biggrr than this club

Some one posted Google Maps...decide for yourself whether the venue was open to public viewing and inappropriate ...without the Telecrap intervening

...https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33.8566076,151.2075341,3a,75y,250.17h,113.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1syYVrE4F2N76IuZGYeZ3tDQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Yes, I've changed my opinion, the original Telecrap reporting was very misleading.

I didn't completely trust them, but the extent of the fabrication, the out right lying and deceit and frankly the lack of human decency, are honestly staggering, and well beyond what I thought was possible.   

It reminds me of an Italian proverb my boss told me "When you point the finger, there are 3 fingers pointing back at you".

This is a very poor reflection on the Telecrap, we know they can't sink any lower as they are at rock bottom.

The tide of public opinion on social media at least seems to be re-adjusting now that the facts are coming to light.

Most accept that it was a private function 3 stories high at the back of the hotel. The club has held Mad Monday there for the past 4 years apparently and no prior (or current) complaints from patrons, passing children or pub management in the whole 4 years!

Most accept that if no laws broken, no property damage, no threatening or bad behaviour then a private group get together is no one's business but those involved.

Its the Telecrap that have brought the game into disrepute with their underhand gutter journalism and invasive photography.

Yes its a no win situation for the players and club but I sincerely hope that the Club specifically detail, and map, the lengths and methods used by the Murdoch rag and employees to trash our club and players reputations.

It needs to be fully exposed and Rothfield, the photgrapher and other staff shamed for their persecution, hypocricy and biased reporting and the dispictable lengths they go to to drag the game down to sell newspapers.

We must learn from Coffs and stand up for the players if the media are unfairly hanging them out to dry....that buzzard Rothfield even mentioned that in his critisism of Graham Hughes yesterday.

Some aspects of Mad Monday were wrong on the players part. We were niaive to think the Telecrap would do the right thing and not hound them like pervert voyeurs. We have to learn from this.

One thing the club could potentially sue the paper  for is the misuse of the bulldogs logo hiding the players willy.

Lachlan Lewis should be encouraged to start defamation action. The club needs to be stronger and whilst not condoning the action of the players indicate it was 100% in private.

Spoken to someone who has been at that pub in that section, no one can see you there, not in the pub or at street level.  You have to get up 3  stories with a telephoto lense.    If the players could be seen by anyone don't you think there would multiple photos from the public?    So all bs that the  public could see them.  All bs that Lewis was helped into a uber seeing he wasn't even there, all bs that Montoya was passed out at train station. 

 Just the usual telecrap scum with their never ending vendetta against the Bulldogs.  They are the ones who brought the game into disrepute because if they hadn't been so devious no one would have known what went on.  

My feelings have changed somewhat even though I do not like the drunken behaviour but you can be assured the Telecrap had a photographer there for the duration essentially clicking all the time and out of what I would suggest were hundreds of pictures they got a few damning ones. It was not a public gathering just footballers behaving (very) stupidly in private

Well at least I've got the consolation that West Ham have had a great start to the season ...

Or perhaps that they can't go any lower on the table... :)

I admit, some sort of punishment needs to be put on the club and maybe even the players. It was stupid on both an individual and club level. 

The only way to avoid a hefty punishment now is for the club to act (plant a forest or something) or otherwise..... tip off the media to follow Fifita, Dugan, Ferguson or some other troublemaker and wait for their stuff up to divert attention 

When all is said and done, I am very interested to hear what "punishment" Greenturd is concocting to try and cripple the Dogs.........again. For a person that was once our CEO, there is certainly no love lost. This will not be the last time a team or individual player will hit the headlines for the wrong reason and should they be a pet player or darling club, it will be interesting to see how "outraged" the NRL will feel.

They don't. Tabloid journalism is not for those with a modicum of intelligence. 

I should have known that the photo's of Elliott where taken with a Telephoto lens, in an area well away from the general public.

What is next, hidden cameras in our bathrooms? 

I hope the NRL take into account that the Tele has gone out of their way to create the story by active surveillance of the Dogs.

What Marcello did is what plenty of young guys have done in the past, when they have had too many, again without the active surveillance the general public probably would not have recognised him. 

This shows the priority of the Murdoch Media, they have their targets and the pets. At one stage they completely stopped covering state politics in QLD when the LNP was on the nose, and stumbling from stuff up to stuff up. So they are just as good at ignoring a serious story, as they are at inventing a nonsense story. 

I don't know why any intelligent person would buy their papers.

Totally agree ODF SMH put some balance into the issue..but...I think what disappoints the most is that we yet again put ourselves into the situation of helping out those same scumbags by shots of passing out on the footpath and chundering in a public area. 

Just when we start getting positive press and feeling like there is a continuing promising future for the Club, some issue arises and we look like we have shot ourselves in the foot all over again...

Most punters couldn't give a fig if no illegalities committed but the Telecrap will always be on our case and yet again we are selling papers and getting clicks for them...very frustrating to then have to pander to the ba$tards.

Dan, at least one newspaper sees it as it really is. If the telecrap had not taken photos and published them, then no one would have know. So it isn't the Bulldogs that brought the game into disrepute it was the telecrap. Secondly it was a private function therefore the media had no authority to take any photos. If I was at a private function and some journo took a candid shot of me and splashed it front page without my knowledge, I would have them charged for invasion of privacy, among a myriad of other breaches. That really is low life scumbag journalism at it worse.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/the-most-maddening-aspect-of-the-bulldogs-mad-monday-madness-20180904-p501qm.html

Proud 2 be a bulldog ? I dont know about that
After mad monday , seems like asapeli fine will be
Stood down for the isp cup game , & adam elliett
May be suspended for a few weeks for the start of 2019 season is what sports jurno want & are saying
For bring the NRL into disrepute
Again the club should of taken better steps for
This debarkle 2 never of happened 2018 season
In the name of the father AMEM

I hope Marcelo Montoya left a healthy tip for the cleaner