Indigenous Jersey - Socceroos?


Indigenous Jersey - Socceroos?

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clockwork orange - 15 Aug 2018 8:51 AM
For those calling for celebration of one culture (within a nation of hundreds) and not all others, I’d just like to know why?1. Do you think that one culture is more worthy than all others?
2. Do you feel sorry for those of this one culture and so want to continue to portray them as different to the rest of Australia and needing a ‘nod’ (as some have said)
3. Do you just like colourful dot paintings?
4. Does it make you feel better about yourself?Just asking ....

Your first assertion is plain wrong for starters but just for shits and giggles I'm going to throw up a 5th option.

5.  It's a good looking design.


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clockwork orange - 15 Aug 2018 8:51 AM
For those calling for celebration of one culture (within a nation of hundreds) and not all others, I’d just like to know why?1. Do you think that one culture is more worthy than all others?2. Do you feel sorry for those of this one culture and so want to continue to portray them as different to the rest of Australia and needing a ‘nod’ (as some have said)3. Do you just like colourful dot paintings?4. Does it make you feel better about yourself?Just asking ....

Mate, you're a racist scumbag. I'm embarrassed to live in the same country as you. 
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paulbagzFC - 15 Aug 2018 12:38 PM
Davide82 - 15 Aug 2018 10:07 AM

Like some salt on your chips homie?

LOL.

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Why not some traditional Croatian Italian and Greek art ? given the contributions they've made to our game 
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lukerobinho - 15 Aug 2018 1:53 PM
Why not some traditional Croatian Italian and Greek art ? given the contributions they've made to our game 

RBB tried the Greek Art, but got fined

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Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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Davide82 - 15 Aug 2018 1:47 PM
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You're on fire today.



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This thread is a great example of why football in this country is in the state it is. People here (who all follow football) are more interested in a political argument than the part that is actually to do with football and what's good for football.
Forget about politics for one minute and think about the implications for football.
Every other code has indigenous jerseys, and they would all be making a truckload of cash through selling replicas to punters and from gaining extra sponsorship from big business for those indigenous jerseys.
If it's acceptable for every other code, why not football?
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As said 3rd kit with black, red and yellow pls. Would love to see a simple design with those colours with the Australian crest. Would love to see us play a team like Brazil  who we clash wiith for 1st and 2nd kits  in those colours. Might trigger some PTSD for Brazil with the Belgium and German colours too. 
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lukerobinho - 15 Aug 2018 1:53 PM
Why not some traditional Croatian Italian and Greek art ? given the contributions they've made to our game 

I guess the main issue is that they're not uniquely Australian, they are part of our identity as a nation though so I don't see it being an issue to incorporate elements from them.


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@Derider. Wow what a surprise? Instead of answering a straightforward question, you resort to name calling. I’m a racist because I consider all Australians to be equal? Are you 13 years old or younger?
Perhaps you’ve started to question your own motives and don’t want to answer my question because it’s a bit embarrassing, eh?
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Davide82 - 15 Aug 2018 1:47 PM
paulbagzFC - 15 Aug 2018 12:38 PM

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That is quality, will have to get a few bags.

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paulbagzFC - 15 Aug 2018 3:10 PM
Davide82 - 15 Aug 2018 1:47 PM

That is quality, will have to get a few bags.

-PB

I'm pretty curious myself now
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Davide82 - 15 Aug 2018 3:19 PM
paulbagzFC - 15 Aug 2018 3:10 PM

I'm pretty curious myself now

Out of stock :(
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clockwork orange - 15 Aug 2018 3:09 PM
@Derider. Wow what a surprise? Instead of answering a straightforward question, you resort to name calling. I’m a racist because I consider all Australians to be equal? Are you 13 years old or younger?
Perhaps you’ve started to question your own motives and don’t want to answer my question because it’s a bit embarrassing, eh?

You've shown in this thread how clueless you are about equality in this country. You fail to acknowledge your own prejudices.

Let me say this once again, if you think all Australians currently have equal opportunity, you are clueless.

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paulbagzFC - 15 Aug 2018 3:28 PM
Davide82 - 15 Aug 2018 3:19 PM

Out of stock :(
https://i.imgur.com/JUEMuv0.png

-PB

Go to a Turkish import shop, there might be something.

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9GABmeme420 - 15 Aug 2018 3:39 PM
paulbagzFC - 15 Aug 2018 3:28 PM

Go to a Turkish import shop, there might be something.

Can find the hazelnut ones, but it just wouldn't cut it.

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9GABmeme420 - 15 Aug 2018 3:37 PM
clockwork orange - 15 Aug 2018 3:09 PM

You've shown in this thread how clueless you are about equality in this country. You fail to acknowledge your own prejudices.

Let me say this once again, if you think all Australians currently have equal opportunity, you are clueless.

So please point out where I said all Australians have equal opportunity.  I definitely did say that all races are equal, but apparently this is being 'clueless'? I'd really love to hear why you don't agree with me on that.
But just so I understand your position:
1. People, like myself, who believe all races are equal, and that our national team should not recognize any one race over any other, are 'racists and 'clueless'.
2. People, like yourself, who believe we should celebrate one particular race but not others, or that our national team jersey should 'give a nod' to one particular race, are virtuous, smart and not racist?
Interesting times we live in, eh?


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and to open another pandoras box ... using QANTAS and their lovely art , probably isnt the best example, given they have been know to manipulate corporate tax laws cough cough tax evasion .... exit stage left....
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clockwork orange - 15 Aug 2018 8:12 PM
9GABmeme420 - 15 Aug 2018 3:37 PM

So please point out where I said all Australians have equal opportunity.  I definitely did say that all races are equal, but apparently this is being 'clueless'? I'd really love to hear why you don't agree with me on that.
But just so I understand your position:
1. People, like myself, who believe all races are equal, and that our national team should not recognize any one race over any other, are 'racists and 'clueless'.
2. People, like yourself, who believe we should celebrate one particular race but not others, or that our national team jersey should 'give a nod' to one particular race, are virtuous, smart and not racist?
Interesting times we live in, eh?


A couple of indigenous art jerseys doesn't put Aboriginal rights above all others. You're just upset that we don't put union jacks on the playing strips and have white pride parades. The typical bloke crying victim over anything that resembles empowerment of marginalised peoples.

You are the idiot who turned this thread into an argument about race after being set off by a t-shirt design, by the way.

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clockwork orange - 15 Aug 2018 8:12 PM
9GABmeme420 - 15 Aug 2018 3:37 PM

So please point out where I said all Australians have equal opportunity.  I definitely did say that all races are equal, but apparently this is being 'clueless'? I'd really love to hear why you don't agree with me on that.
But just so I understand your position:
1. People, like myself, who believe all races are equal, and that our national team should not recognize any one race over any other, are 'racists and 'clueless'.
2. People, like yourself, who believe we should celebrate one particular race but not others, or that our national team jersey should 'give a nod' to one particular race, are virtuous, smart and not racist?
Interesting times we live in, eh?


What is wrong with celebrating, understanding, learning from and promoting our indigenous culture?

Shouldn't all Australians be proud of our native culture?


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Eldar - 15 Aug 2018 10:39 PM
clockwork orange - 15 Aug 2018 8:12 PM


Shouldn't all Australians be proud of our native culture?

TBH I'm not. 

and not sure why I should be.


Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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Buggalugs 2.0 - 15 Aug 2018 10:54 PM
Eldar - 15 Aug 2018 10:39 PM

TBH I'm not. 

and not sure why I should be.

Thats your right, it's still our indigenous culture though.



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9GABmeme420 - 15 Aug 2018 9:25 PM
clockwork orange - 15 Aug 2018 8:12 PM

A couple of indigenous art jerseys doesn't put Aboriginal rights above all others. You're just upset that we don't put union jacks on the playing strips and have white pride parades. The typical bloke crying victim over anything that resembles empowerment of marginalised peoples.

You are the idiot who turned this thread into an argument about race after being set off by a t-shirt design, by the way.

So hilarious.  The virtuous, non-racist once again resorts to childish name-calling, and then to prove how non-racist he is, ridicules the very idea of celebrating a race that is non-indigenous - you just couldn't make this stuff up.
So the thread was just about a T-Shirt design, right? But at the same time this T-shirt is so amazing that it will actually lead to the "empowerment of marginalised peoples".
Surely we don't need T-shirts to empower people - I thought that's what your Facebook memes and hashtags were for. Je suis Jong Gabe #empowermenttshiirt



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clockwork orange - 15 Aug 2018 11:17 PM
9GABmeme420 - 15 Aug 2018 9:25 PM

So hilarious.  The virtuous, non-racist once again resorts to childish name-calling, and then to prove how non-racist he is, ridicules the very idea of celebrating a race that is non-indigenous - you just couldn't make this stuff up.
So the thread was just about a T-Shirt design, right? But at the same time this T-shirt is so amazing that it will actually lead to the "empowerment of marginalised peoples".
Surely we don't need T-shirts to empower people - I thought that's what your Facebook memes and hashtags were for. Je suis Jong Gabe #empowermenttshiirt



But you are a racist!. So get over it or go back to your own country!. 


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clockwork orange - 15 Aug 2018 11:17 PM
9GABmeme420 - 15 Aug 2018 9:25 PM

So hilarious.  The virtuous, non-racist once again resorts to childish name-calling, and then to prove how non-racist he is, ridicules the very idea of celebrating a race that is non-indigenous - you just couldn't make this stuff up.
So the thread was just about a T-Shirt design, right? But at the same time this T-shirt is so amazing that it will actually lead to the "empowerment of marginalised peoples".
Surely we don't need T-shirts to empower people - I thought that's what your Facebook memes and hashtags were for. Je suis Jong Gabe #empowermenttshiirt



I said anything that resembles it for a reason. I don't think a t-shirt is going to solve society's ills. But people like you are threatened by a t-shirt design and feel the need to bring up "PC culture and tokenism" anytime something like this happens.

I never ridiculed celebrating non-indigenous races except for Anglo-Saxons who are afforded the most privileges in this country and who can get elected to make a speech in parliament calling for the return of a white Australia policy.

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9GABmeme420 - 15 Aug 2018 11:55 PM
clockwork orange - 15 Aug 2018 11:17 PM

I said anything that resembles it for a reason. I don't think a t-shirt is going to solve society's ills. But people like you are threatened by a t-shirt design and feel the need to bring up "PC culture and tokenism" anytime something like this happens.

I never ridiculed celebrating non-indigenous races except for Anglo-Saxons who are afforded the most privileges in this country and who can get elected to make a speech in parliament calling for the return of a white Australia policy.

"I never ridiculed celebrating non-indigenous races except for Anglo-Saxons"
Now you've confused me.  This is a joke, right? You don't seriously believe it is ok to be racist toward some races, do you?  Oh no - you really do! Just wow.


I’m not sure what’s funniest.
1. That you’ve been calling others racists and then totally outed yourself as a racist, or
2. That you’re on a football forum, you know Association Football - invented by the Anglo saxons you despise.
Perhaps you should question whether you are engaging by in cultural appropriation by even discussing football?

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Hope the indigenous boys I coach aren't reading this shit. The same kids that are part of our football family. 

Well played Muz, Davide et al
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clockwork orange - 16 Aug 2018 12:37 AM
9GABmeme420 - 15 Aug 2018 11:55 PM

"I never ridiculed celebrating non-indigenous races except for Anglo-Saxons"
Now you've confused me.  This is a joke, right? You don't seriously believe it is ok to be racist toward some races, do you?  Oh no - you really do! Just wow.


I’m not sure what’s funniest.
1. That you’ve been calling others racists and then totally outed yourself as a racist, or
2. That you’re on a football forum, you know Association Football - invented by the Anglo saxons you despise.
Perhaps you should question whether you are engaging by in cultural appropriation by even discussing football?

How fragile of a white man are you if you think that was racist? I don't despise Anglo-Saxons except for ones like you. 

You claim to be for equality, but everyone in this forum has seen how much of a racist you are.

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clockwork orange - 16 Aug 2018 12:37 AM
9GABmeme420 - 15 Aug 2018 11:55 PM

"I never ridiculed celebrating non-indigenous races except for Anglo-Saxons"
Now you've confused me.  This is a joke, right? You don't seriously believe it is ok to be racist toward some races, do you?  Oh no - you really do! Just wow.


I’m not sure what’s funniest.
1. That you’ve been calling others racists and then totally outed yourself as a racist, or
2. That you’re on a football forum, you know Association Football - invented by the Anglo saxons you despise.
Perhaps you should question whether you are engaging by in cultural appropriation by even discussing football?

It's not racist to think we don't need to celebrate Anglo-Saxon culture. The centre of Australian culture is Anglo-Saxon, its the way we speak, the way our government is run and the people who occupy the most positions of power. There's nothing wrong with having or being proud of having British heritage, I do and I am.


There's nothing inherently damaging about Anglo culture anymore than any other culture, but if your desire to 'celebrate' it means rejecting even one tiny acknowledgement of the people who have lived on this land for tens of thousands of years, whose culture exists nowhere else in the world but here, all in the name of celebrating Anglo-Saxon culture, you're damaging the culture you're trying to 'celebrate'. Only bringing up Anglo-Saxon culture in response to people trying to celebrate other cultures is disingenuous. You're not actually trying to celebrate the culture, you're trying to dismiss someone else's.

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I like the pretty lines and dots generally so would probs buy one

Would prefer to go back to the navy with yellow gold trim for colours though
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