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aussie pride - 21 Jan 2023 1:34 PM
Had no idea they were playing at North Hobart Oval until I saw the AL posted this on facebook.

Anyway I'm intrigued on how it sets up as a venue.
From my understanding, it's one of the more narrower ovals so more suitable to host football than say Docklands or the ballarat venue WU use for example.
It also has an elevated terrace on the wing which would be cool to see on display hosting football.

When I was 'all in' with emotional investment for the A-League 10-15 years ago I was hoping Tasmania United got accepted and converted North Hobart Oval into a dedicated football facility. Obviously a personal pipedream at the time.

Ironically since then it seems like the NBL have actually made it a reality and the Jackjumpers have been very succesful with a parochial fanbase with an upgraded venue and high attendances.

North Hobart has hosted AL M practice games before.

If the pitch faces North /South like I saw an EPL rep team play Tas over 40 years ago, the big stands are side on.

 The more  recent games have set the pitch  in more of an East/West orientation and there isn't enough seating at the side of the pitch.
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soccerfoo - 21 Jan 2023 9:51 AM
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bohemia - 20 Jan 2023 11:48 PM

My salient point is that it is old footage. They won't  have the training ground ready for start of 2023-24  season. They haven't started construction on it again this year, yet.
Lib gov lost an election and forget funding for the main stadium. All in all, things look pretty shit.


Cheer up
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Really enjoyed attending the Western U double gender in Hobart this weekend.

The quality of the football on the pitch was great.

The main problem was that so many people interested in football, outside the current club milieu,  didn't  know  that the WU double header was  on. The mainstream media, particularly Murdoch's tabloids and the ABC TV, seem anti domestic  Aus football. They primarily focus reporting on  T20 cricket for both genders, tennis for both genders, national league basketball and of course both genders for AFL in this state.

Football Tasmania didn't have lot of info on their website, but there could have been collusion between Football  Tas and Western U in accessing juniors players and giving out  free tickets. 

I intend to chase up the WU media person in the  next few days.

On Feb 17th there is a Western U game in Launceston, that I will attend  earlier the day and we can drive both ways, or, if we can find accommodation if it is on later in the day .

The Launceston Fairfax tabloid is far more domestic football friendly, when previous A L games have been held there.

If WU wanted to hold 5 games a season in Tas, and they have pro  staff working in Tas, holding plenty of junior and youth  coaching clinics,  crowds  will easily exceed those in Geelong.
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PGR - 20 Jan 2023 9:19 PM
Manningham Council will manage usage of the new facilities by local clubs and the broader community.


Didn't Bulleen have their own ground managed by their social arm, the Veneto club?

Looks like they've gone backwards.

Bulleen Lions did/do still have their own "privately owned" stadium at Veneto club Paulie, and will continue to do so....  This is a council ground, just like the one Whyndham council is building at Tarneit only with better facilities and training pitches. It will be used primarily by two local state league clubs, with full public access when the clubs mentioned aren't training or have match days, just like the Tarneit training base. Only difference is a franchise owner isn't trying to convince the gullible A league public that this is "their home"
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bohemia - 22 Jan 2023 1:49 AM
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Cheer up

Ok darling.
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Call your lot Vic West Utd, better than the current nothing name.
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soccerfoo - 24 Jan 2023 10:05 AM
Call your lot Vic West Utd, better than the current nothing name.

There is already a franchise that "represents" the whole of Victoria/Victorium/Victory/Victorious???? Wont somebody think of the metrics?
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Monoethnic Social Club - 24 Jan 2023 10:47 AM
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There is already a franchise that "represents" the whole of Victoria/Victorium/Victory/Victorious???? Wont somebody think of the metrics?

Vic West, not Victoria on its own.


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soccerfoo - 24 Jan 2023 12:04 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 24 Jan 2023 10:47 AM

Vic West, not Victoria on its own.


Doesn't matter until they are actually playing in the west. As long as they are playing out of AAMI, the only point of difference they have is the colour green.
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SM Pete@SMEMUFC
UNCONFIRMED RUMOUR: Current #TarneitFC investors have exhausted their available funds & are in late stage discussions to sell #WUFC to another property investment group.
If new investors aren’t found, it’s understood the #ALeague franchise will cease to operate next year.
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bettega - 26 Jan 2023 6:16 PM
SM Pete@SMEMUFC
UNCONFIRMED RUMOUR: Current #TarneitFC investors have exhausted their available funds & are in late stage discussions to sell #WUFC to another property investment group.
If new investors aren’t found, it’s understood the #ALeague franchise will cease to operate next year.

Frankly, it's amazing that they have held on so long. Hope it's true. They have done nothing but harm to the competition and were admitted only on a false promise. 9
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Monoethnic Social Club - 23 Jan 2023 9:46 AM
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Bulleen Lions did/do still have their own "privately owned" stadium at Veneto club Paulie, and will continue to do so....  This is a council ground, just like the one Whyndham council is building at Tarneit only with better facilities and training pitches. It will be used primarily by two local state league clubs, with full public access when the clubs mentioned aren't training or have match days, just like the Tarneit training base. Only difference is a franchise owner isn't trying to convince the gullible A league public that this is "their home"

Don't forget it will be used for the broader community as well. They won't even be able to manage what it gets used for.
Concerts, dirt bikes, etc. Nice, yeah?.


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PGR - 27 Jan 2023 12:59 AM
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Don't forget it will be used for the broader community as well. They won't even be able to manage what it gets used for.
Concerts, dirt bikes, etc. Nice, yeah?.


Absolutely mate, its a council facility. Just like WU's training ground..... Only difference is that it looks like the Bulleen ground will have 150 more seats and, 2 more training pitches and heaps more trees and bike paths. 
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bettega - 26 Jan 2023 6:16 PM
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UNCONFIRMED RUMOUR: Current #TarneitFC investors have exhausted their available funds & are in late stage discussions to sell #WUFC to another property investment group.
If new investors aren’t found, it’s understood the #ALeague franchise will cease to operate next year.

Well if WU are on the 'brink,' how are they going three ways in propping up Jets, as the Jets just signed another foreigner from JLeague...
As the pitches are more than 50% built, will they be left derelict halfway completed? 


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soccerfoo - 27 Jan 2023 10:27 AM
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Well if WU are on the 'brink,' how are they going three ways in propping up Jets, as the Jets just signed another foreigner from JLeague...
As the pitches are more than 50% built, will they be left derelict halfway completed? 


They're not. Their owner(s) maybe part of the group that is propping up the jets, but the club itself is not. Separate entities all together. If the owner(s) have decided that WU is no longer worth their investment, it's completely separate to whether they still wish to spend money propping up the jets. If the rumor is accurate, it's not that the owners have ran out of funds, it's that they have come to a point in which WU is no longer viable for them and they need to move it on to a suitable buyer. As for the training pitches, as the council is involved I'd say it will be completed as planned.
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soccerfoo - 27 Jan 2023 10:27 AM
bettega - 26 Jan 2023 6:16 PM

Well if WU are on the 'brink,' how are they going three ways in propping up Jets, as the Jets just signed another foreigner from JLeague...
As the pitches are more than 50% built, will they be left derelict halfway completed? 


Im hearing on the grapevine that the "new" property investment group is also majority foreign owned and is having second thoughts as the financial reports don't seem to be kosher at WMG...???? Just a rumour but a fairly strong one at this stage..... 
The good news for the A leaguers, is that the message seems to be that even if they can't sell the license the current group seems keen to continue operating the football department .... for now.
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soccerfoo - 27 Jan 2023 10:27 AM
bettega - 26 Jan 2023 6:16 PM

Well if WU are on the 'brink,' how are they going three ways in propping up Jets, as the Jets just signed another foreigner from JLeague...
As the pitches are more than 50% built, will they be left derelict halfway completed? 


Council owned and oeprated ground bud... There are 3-4 current clubs in the area which are lining up to use them if WU folds..... the mini Western Wembley is going ahead :)


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Monoethnic Social Club - 27 Jan 2023 12:11 PM
soccerfoo - 27 Jan 2023 10:27 AM

Council owned and oeprated ground bud... There are 3-4 current clubs in the area which are lining up to use them if WU folds..... the mini Western Wembley is going ahead :)


Haha. 
It's cute there are actually people out there that think WU are actually building something themselves. 
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Haha. 
It's cute there are actually people out there that think WU are actually building something themselves. 

Hey, I'm a cute guy. The old lady said so from across the street.
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bettega - 26 Jan 2023 6:16 PM
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UNCONFIRMED RUMOUR: Current #TarneitFC investors have exhausted their available funds & are in late stage discussions to sell #WUFC to another property investment group.
If new investors aren’t found, it’s understood the #ALeague franchise will cease to operate next year.

There was a similar rumour at the end of the last season with Macarthur. Hate to say it so but I would like to be proven wrong (for both clubs).
However, with the persistent talks about a Canberra team recently then maybe a swap could happen?

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There was a similar rumour at the end of the last season with Macarthur. Hate to say it so but I would like to be proven wrong (for both clubs).
However, with the persistent talks about a Canberra team recently then maybe a swap could happen?

For one, WU can stop assisting with the Jets, its contributing like the other two clubs, forget about the bullshit. Then, they arent spending anything on the training ground because its funded by the government. Therefore, its just hot air, hail hail.
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Even though many of these rumours strangely seem to originate from similar ‘sources’, I just can’t see how WU is a viable business moving forward.

It has no home, potential fans don’t care as their nomadic operation doesn’t stand still for long enough for anyone to connect to it, and it doesn’t even appear to be developing players to sell which will atleast help boost the finances. 

Given that it really seems to have very little light at the end of the tunnel to improve things, and the property market fundamentals are very subdued currently, I want to be positive about things but I just can’t see how things stack up.

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Heart_fan - 28 Jan 2023 5:27 PM
Even though many of these rumours strangely seem to originate from similar ‘sources’, I just can’t see how WU is a viable business moving forward.

It has no home, potential fans don’t care as their nomadic operation doesn’t stand still for long enough for anyone to connect to it, and it doesn’t even appear to be developing players to sell which will atleast help boost the finances. 

Given that it really seems to have very little light at the end of the tunnel to improve things, and the property market fundamentals are very subdued currently, I want to be positive about things but I just can’t see how things stack up.

WU is meant to be in the fastest growing area possibly in Australia, along with the Macarthur area. How can you not see the viability?
They have been a pain (pardon the pun) because they have been vegabonds, nomads. With the 'government funded' initial homeground, the world 
will be a better place for them. 
A side thing, I noticed the name 'Wyndham City' on the back of they're apparell. Could mean a possible name change when they go to they're homeground.
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bettega - 26 Jan 2023 6:16 PM
SM Pete@SMEMUFC
UNCONFIRMED RUMOUR: Current #TarneitFC investors have exhausted their available funds & are in late stage discussions to sell #WUFC to another property investment group.
If new investors aren’t found, it’s understood the #ALeague franchise will cease to operate next year.

Some guy on Twitter who wishes his team was in the A League instead of Western United doesn't really count as a credible source.
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There was a similar rumour at the end of the last season with Macarthur. Hate to say it so but I would like to be proven wrong (for both clubs).
However, with the persistent talks about a Canberra team recently then maybe a swap could happen?

Swapping doesn't generate enough income to pay the interest on Silverlakes investment

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ErogenousZone - 29 Jan 2023 3:41 PM
bettega - 26 Jan 2023 6:16 PM

Some guy on Twitter who wishes his team was in the A League instead of Western United doesn't really count as a credible source.

He has his agenda, but he has enough material to heap constant shit on the ALM without making stuff up. 

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SM Mike is an NSL bitter who clearly has an issue with WU and wants them to fail. I think it’s a pisser people actually give this stuff oxygen.

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Feed_The_Brox - 30 Jan 2023 9:22 AM
SM Mike is an NSL bitter who clearly has an issue with WU and wants them to fail. I think it’s a pisser people actually give this stuff oxygen.

Mike and Pete are two totally different people mate. Dont let the hate drive the opinion... 
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I do enjoy the fact all the rumours magically start with SMH supporters aha

I can imagine them all sitting in the stands on the weekend saying what a mate's cousin's Godfather's uncle heard at work from the guy who is mates with a guy who is married to the wife of one of the junior players fathers who heard two guys talking at training
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Davide82 - 1 Feb 2023 10:30 AM
I do enjoy the fact all the rumours magically start with SMH supporters aha

I can imagine them all sitting in the stands on the weekend saying what a mate's cousin's Godfather's uncle heard at work from the guy who is mates with a guy who is married to the wife of one of the junior players fathers who heard two guys talking at training

In all likelihood, they probably started the cooker conspiracy about Daniel Andrews and Lindsey Fox’s son in law :P

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