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+xI see the whinging about all the infrastructure taking 5 - 10 years ( no one really knows at this point) however so what. Australia’s first football owned and purpose built stadium is a milestone. It’s the future with long term planning for once and should be commended. I wish West Melbourne well. Check the blueprint Foundations will probably be just about right for a Westfield
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+x+xI see the whinging about all the infrastructure taking 5 - 10 years ( no one really knows at this point) however so what. Australia’s first football owned and purpose built stadium is a milestone. It’s the future with long term planning for once and should be commended. I wish West Melbourne well. Check the blueprint Foundations will probably be just about right for a Westfield before, during or after the stadium? (or in place of it?)
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+x+x+xAlso out good old friend girtxc is claiming this . Saying he had a big part in this Happy for him, but oh dear, that's classic girt. Must have been the sticker campaign Ah ! The stickers I had 200 "WE ARE FOOTBALL" when GC was taken out the back and knocked on the head. Straight to the bin.
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+x+x+xI see the whinging about all the infrastructure taking 5 - 10 years ( no one really knows at this point) however so what. Australia’s first football owned and purpose built stadium is a milestone. It’s the future with long term planning for once and should be commended. I wish West Melbourne well. Check the blueprint Foundations will probably be just about right for a Westfield before, during or after the stadium? (or in place of it?) Probably after 1st season at Kardashian
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+xHustled? I'm betting the afl will have a little word to Wyndham city council and voila itll be another footy oval. I live in Wyndham and the afl have massive pull with our council . Afl heavy weights come down to werribee and meet up with Joanne Ryan . But in saying that she is very supportive of the wmg not while Kate Roffey works for the Wyndham council. But you don't get it, don't you? This was done so the AFL can't get their dirty fingers all over the project. Which is what almost certainly would have happened had the funding for the Dandenong Stadium got the go ahead. in fact, it is quite plausible to suggest that the AFL may have used their influence with the government to pressure them into not providing the funding for Dandenong Stadium.
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+x+xHustled? I'm betting the afl will have a little word to Wyndham city council and voila itll be another footy oval. I live in Wyndham and the afl have massive pull with our council . Afl heavy weights come down to werribee and meet up with Joanne Ryan . But in saying that she is very supportive of the wmg not while Kate Roffey works for the Wyndham council. But you don't get it, don't you? This was done so the AFL can't get their dirty fingers all over the project. Which is what almost certainly would have happened had the funding for the Dandenong Stadium got the go ahead. in fact, it is quite plausible to suggest that the AFL may have used their influence with the government to pressure them into not providing the funding for Dandenong Stadium. I'm trying to decipher your post So the AFL were going to get their hands on this gold mine called Tarneit, and at the same time, they lobbied hard so that Dandenong didn't get up, but in doing so, they lost out on the gold mine called Tarneit??
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+x+x+xHustled? I'm betting the afl will have a little word to Wyndham city council and voila itll be another footy oval. I live in Wyndham and the afl have massive pull with our council . Afl heavy weights come down to werribee and meet up with Joanne Ryan . But in saying that she is very supportive of the wmg not while Kate Roffey works for the Wyndham council. But you don't get it, don't you? This was done so the AFL can't get their dirty fingers all over the project. Which is what almost certainly would have happened had the funding for the Dandenong Stadium got the go ahead. in fact, it is quite plausible to suggest that the AFL may have used their influence with the government to pressure them into not providing the funding for Dandenong Stadium. I'm trying to decipher your post So the AFL were going to get their hands on this gold mine called Tarneit, and at the same time, they lobbied hard so that Dandenong didn't get up, but in doing so, they lost out on the gold mine called Tarneit?? Think you find the AFL found a gold mine in a little country called China, invented professional sport there. Some of you guys need to move out of Melbourne to see how small the AFL really is.
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+xI'm trying to decipher your post So the AFL were going to get their hands on this gold mine called Tarneit, and at the same time, they lobbied hard so that Dandenong didn't get up, but in doing so, they lost out on the gold mine called Tarneit?? i am saying that because the government in Victoria (and in most other states as well as federally) are hostile towards football, the only way to get something done your way, and without the interference of others (like the AFL or the government) is to build it without any government funding. And there is little doubt in my mind that the AFL would have had some influence had the government decided to fund Dandenong stadium, or alternately, they did have some influence in the government choosing not fund it. call me a cynic or conspiracy theorist if you wish.
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+x+xI'm trying to decipher your post So the AFL were going to get their hands on this gold mine called Tarneit, and at the same time, they lobbied hard so that Dandenong didn't get up, but in doing so, they lost out on the gold mine called Tarneit?? i am saying that because the government in Victoria (and in most other states as well as federally) are hostile towards football, the only way to get something done your way, and without the interference of others (like the AFL or the government) is to build it without any government funding. And there is little doubt in my mind that the AFL would have had some influence had the government decided to fund Dandenong stadium, or alternately, they did have some influence in the government choosing not fund it. call me a cynic or conspiracy theorist if you wish. Just fucking turn coat already. Change your name too.
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This might not be popular, but I wonder if Western Melbourne will take a game or two to Morsehead Park in Ballarat during their time in Geelong? Some preseason or FFA Cup matches for sure.
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+xThis might not be popular, but I wonder if Western Melbourne will take a game or two to Morsehead Park in Ballarat during their time in Geelong? Some preseason or FFA Cup matches for sure. It makes more sense than Geelong
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+xThis might not be popular, but I wonder if Western Melbourne will take a game or two to Morsehead Park in Ballarat during their time in Geelong? Some preseason or FFA Cup matches for sure. FFA cup is unlikely (at least at the moment) as Ballarat City FC aren't very good (finished 2nd last in the NPL2). A friendly match or two wouldn't be out of the question though. If they played any HAL rounds in Ballarat they would certainly be played at Eureka Stadium.
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Playing a couple of matches at Ballarat for the first couple of seasons isn’t too bad of a move, given it’s apparently a catchment zone they want to appeal to (how successful that will be is another question).
Could also depend how good the deal is to use Kardinia Park will be. Lots of hard work ahead.
They seem to be saying all the right things, but at times Steve Horvat has sounded a bit too scripted. Nearly every interview seems to use the same lines, but I guess there’s very little they can confirm yet.
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Firstly comes down to how much WMG can afford to lose year after on the P&L.
My guess after stumping up $20Mill start up costs of $5Mill and annual losses of the HAL average $2.5Million pa they need minimum $32.5Million to see it through to their new stadium.
Then it will be all about how many theatre goers they can get there.
I can see a lot of fun times ahead.
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+xFirstly comes down to how much WMG can afford to lose year after on the P&L. My guess after stumping up $20Mill start up costs of $5Mill and annual losses of the HAL average $2.5Million pa they need minimum $32.5Million to see it through to their new stadium. Then it will be all about how many theatre goers they can get there. I can see a lot of fun times ahead. 
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+xFirstly comes down to how much WMG can afford to lose year after on the P&L. My guess after stumping up $20Mill start up costs of $5Mill and annual losses of the HAL average $2.5Million pa they need minimum $32.5Million to see it through to their new stadium. Then it will be all about how many theatre goers they can get there. I can see a lot of fun times ahead. will give a whole new meaning to deep pockets
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+xThis might not be popular, but I wonder if Western Melbourne will take a game or two to Morsehead Park in Ballarat during their time in Geelong? Some preseason or FFA Cup matches for sure. its my understanding that this is definitely an option, especially in January when Kardinia Park will probably be unavailable due to the BBL. Morsehead Park is quite a nice little upgraded Football facility.
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+x+xThis might not be popular, but I wonder if Western Melbourne will take a game or two to Morsehead Park in Ballarat during their time in Geelong? Some preseason or FFA Cup matches for sure. its my understanding that this is definitely an option, especially in January when Kardinia Park will probably be unavailable due to the BBL. Morsehead Park is quite a nice little upgraded Football facility. https://www.austadiums.com/stadiums/stadiums.php?id=417Throw in some temp stands and it seems very workable.
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+x+x+xThis might not be popular, but I wonder if Western Melbourne will take a game or two to Morsehead Park in Ballarat during their time in Geelong? Some preseason or FFA Cup matches for sure. its my understanding that this is definitely an option, especially in January when Kardinia Park will probably be unavailable due to the BBL. Morsehead Park is quite a nice little upgraded Football facility. https://www.austadiums.com/stadiums/stadiums.php?id=417Throw in some temp stands and it seems very workable. Pity they never finished the whole design: 
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Amazes me that a new club will need to resort to playing in Ballarat in front of 1500 people. Should have just been given a licence, guarantee to come into the comp in 3 years when the stadium is ready. Canberra should be the ones playing next season, or even South Melb.
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+xAmazes me that a new club will need to resort to playing in Ballarat in front of 1500 people. Should have just been given a licence, guarantee to come into the comp in 3 years when the stadium is ready. Canberra should be the ones playing next season, or even South Melb. Yeah, the 3-year limbo is baffling when other options would be ready to go. I'd be very interested to hear what the FFA's justification is.
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+x+xAmazes me that a new club will need to resort to playing in Ballarat in front of 1500 people. Should have just been given a licence, guarantee to come into the comp in 3 years when the stadium is ready. Canberra should be the ones playing next season, or even South Melb. Yeah, the 3-year limbo is baffling when other options would be ready to go. I'd be very interested to hear what the FFA's justification is. $$$
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+xAmazes me that a new club will need to resort to playing in Ballarat in front of 1500 people. Who says they do ? FFA say they won't. I've seen nothing to the contrary
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+xAmazes me that a new club will need to resort to playing in Ballarat in front of 1500 people. Should have just been given a licence, guarantee to come into the comp in 3 years when the stadium is ready. Canberra should be the ones playing next season, or even South Melb. Yep it's really arse about. No sensible person is doubting the value that stadium ownership brings to the bid, but firing the gun before that bullet is loaded makes the whole thing go off half-cocked. Much better to show some imagination, courage and leadership and plan at least a few years ahead and award them a licence as a 13/14th or 15/16th club once they're ready rather than saying "right, in you go" with no home a few months from kickoff. Compared to Japan's 100 year plan that's nothing.
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+x+xAmazes me that a new club will need to resort to playing in Ballarat in front of 1500 people. Who says they do ? FFA say they won't. I've seen nothing to the contrary I can't believe that you of all people are basing an argument on the idea that the FFA wouldn't contradict themselves.
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https://www.a-league.com.au/news/gallop-reveals-why-winning-expansion-bids-were-successfulFFA CEO David Gallop said the high-quality facilities and growth corridors that bids from both Western Melbourne Group and Macarthur South West Sydney represented were the key factors in them winning licences into the Hyundai A-League. FFA announced on Thursday that Western Melbourne Group would enter the Hyundai A-League in the 2019/20 season, with Macarthur South West Sydney to follow the season after. Western Melbourne Group’s promise to build a privately funded 15,000-seat stadium - joined by a training and administration complex - was a key plank of their bid. And Gallop said the prospect excited him on what he described as a “great news day for Australian football and the A-League”. “This is going to set the A-League up for long-term sustainability in these locations but importantly, as well, the decisions have taken us to a point where we can ensure that the new clubs are in high-quality facilities from day one,” Gallop said. “Obviously with West Melbourne, there’s an opportunity to do something quite unique and something that we’ve seen successful in football globally, which is to have a purpose-built football stadium. “West Melbourne is a growth corridor and the prospect of having our own stadium built out there is exciting indeed.” Western Melbourne Group will play out of Geelong’s Kardinia Park for their first two Hyundai A-League seasons as their purpose-built stadium in Tarneit - 25km west of Melbourne and 50km north-east of Geelong - is built. Gallop said that during that period the team would still “be in a facility that will present the game well and have a playing surface that is comfortable for our players.”
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Will the game ever reach a point where we never have to hear the words “growth corridor” spoken again?
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+x+x+xAmazes me that a new club will need to resort to playing in Ballarat in front of 1500 people. Who says they do ? FFA say they won't. I've seen nothing to the contrary I can't believe that you of all people are basing an argument on the idea that the FFA wouldn't contradict themselves. True, but has this what it has come to ? We are now assuming that the FFA CEO is lying about everything and we need to debate the opposite
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+xWill the game ever reach a point where we never have to hear the words “growth corridor” spoken again? using an expression like "growth corridor" allows them to avoid what they really want to say: we don't want no effniks!!
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You'd hope that part of this development includes a couple of bars in the area because it looks pretty bleak getting a drink anywhere else in the area and having a couple of good bars is important to a good match day culture. Have a feeling though that even if they do, it'll end up being like those soul sucking venues around Homebush.
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