Joffa
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I used to enjoy updating and maintaing the attendance thread, especially the spread of attendances and underlying trends.
used to love posting articles for discussion
loved the match day threads with there predictions and the dam levels
used to discussions about the state of the game, expansion etc...
graham Arnold as Socceroo coach, haven’t we seen that movie as breadth....yikes!
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mcjules
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Lots of great ideas in this thread but it's devolved and therefore run its course. Thanks to all those who posted constructively.
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localstar
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+x+x+x+x+xIt would be interesting to know how some of the people who love conflict on the internet are in face to face contact off forum? My guess is they are angry, but too cowardly to confront others face to face and diss out abuse. The Internet is a great place for them to express how macho they can be by banging on keys. There is is a clear message on this thread about most wanting to discuss football in a civil manner on this forum. We have seen many posts from former regulars, which has been beneficial. We can do without your amateur psychology, decentric. And your wild guesses about other people's lives. Keep it normal... Why don't you ever start a thread about any issue in football, Victor? I've yet to see you do it in 13 years of football forums. You have plenty of ideas criticising those who do. What have you contributed to this threat that is proactive, champ? Your last post is evocative of your negative attitude. Here is an idea, why don't you provide a precursory synopsis of your last book on football you wrote? I'd eagerly look forward to it, instead of your constant moaning and negativity. On psychology, I have a degree in it. It's like nothing has happened over the last week or two. Decentric still resorting to abusive nicknames and criticising the posts of others. Forget about your proactive/active poster dichotomy- people are entitled to post in whatever style they wish. When you post nonsense, it needs pointing out to others. That's why my posts are apparently "negative" in your eyes. I've provided plenty of useful football information on here- which I'm sure was of great value to you years ago when you knew nothing about football. So get off your high horse- do you really think calling people Victor and Champ is in keeping with the reconcilitary atmosphere that now prevails?? Keep this up and I'll will be reporting you to the mods. I look forward to your proactive, precursory synopsis of your last book. I think it will be well received! Good to see moving forwards. I think it will add to traffic and enhance the reputation of the forum. D... nobody looks at the book thread on performance. I've recommended three books on there with little response. In fact the Peformance sub forum is one of the things that needs looking at on here - perhaps it needs merging or even being removed. I know you started it as a soapbox for your good self!
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sokorny
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Need to create more interesting threads too (the posts straight from 442 are not engaging enough, they don't ask a question or raise any discussion to ignite a thread either). Sure post the article link, but incorporate it into a discussion piece, ask a question, or for our thoughts/experiences etc. Hubspot provide some great insights to marketing on social media (and a lot could be applied to this forum).
Aussie Abroads is about the only thread I continually find interesting, outside of match day threads (but they have a short life span given their nature)
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I used to be here posting daily, religiously, but I got a bit over it to be honest, too much garbage, personal attacks, multis, etc. I post here once a month now at best.
1. How did you initially discover the forums? Honestly can't remember, I think I lurked for a while before joining
2. What’s kept you around? The Aussies Abroad thread and also to read everyone elses opinions on current football issues, A-League, etc
3. Any ideas for acquiring new users? Not sure sorry!
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sokorny
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1. Initially it was the comments below the articles that brought me here.
2. Only real active forum about football in Australia.
3. Why I've been less active of late is the negativity on these forums, or that posts quickly turn to someone's agenda, of which there are 50 threads already on that topic. If the thread goes on subject, or two people engage in a petty squabble it quickly turns others away.
Prob needs someone to "chair" the forum better so that it keeps moving forward, posts are welcome but no one wants to squabble over the same issue in each and every thread. We'll sorry, one person will but this will drive others away. Don't need to censor them, just need users or a "chair" to keep threads on topic and not let them get drawn into the same old petty arguments. Think of how to chair an effective meeting, these are how moderators should be managing threads.
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Decentric
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+x+x[Posting in AF for visibility] G’day It’s no secret that activity levels on this beautiful and once-vibrant forum are at all-time lows. If you’re reading this right now, it means you care even a little bit about this place, and probably have some ideas on how we can breathe life into it again. Over in the mod subforum we've been brainstorming some ideas but really need a whole lot more brainpower, hence this call to arms. I’d like to request 3 things from everyone: 1. How did you initially discover the forums? 2. What’s kept you around? 3. Any ideas for acquiring new users? e.g. for me: 1. Article comments linked to the forum. This was how I and many others actually discovered the forum’s existence in the first place. I was a commenter for a good few years before even realising there was a forum connected. InsideSport still gets a decent amount of traffic who visit for the articles, and it seems like the lowest hanging fruit for getting new users involved. 2. Initially it was Joffa keeping everyone up to date with EVERYTHING. Legit, the FFT forums were almost entirely my one-stop-shop for Aussie football news because Joffa would scour the internet daily and collate all the relevant stories for everyone. Is there any way we can beg him to come back? (I don't know him outside of the forum) 3. Kind of already summarised above, but my two ideas are re-connect the forum to the articles, and bring back Joffa. I know we're all a negative bunch sometimes, but can we please keep all criticism in this thread constructive/as positive as possible? No negative comments about other forum members here please - save that for another day when we hopefully still have a forum to express said feelings... 1/ This was the only place where you could discuss Australian football with like minded people that loved the sport without saying its shit. Also there was a massive amount of quality posters and it made this place feel like home for some reason. I guess oz football was going well at the time as well helped before FFA ran the sport into the ground. 2/ I don't know any other forums where people discuss Australian football if i did know i would have left already. 3/ Try and get all the original posters back who made this place amazing ie Joffa with the constant articles he would find like bowmen said. 1 and 3 are good points. It is difficult to follow up the guys who have left though.
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Decentric
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+x+x+x+xIt would be interesting to know how some of the people who love conflict on the internet are in face to face contact off forum? My guess is they are angry, but too cowardly to confront others face to face and diss out abuse. The Internet is a great place for them to express how macho they can be by banging on keys. There is is a clear message on this thread about most wanting to discuss football in a civil manner on this forum. We have seen many posts from former regulars, which has been beneficial. We can do without your amateur psychology, decentric. And your wild guesses about other people's lives. Keep it normal... Why don't you ever start a thread about any issue in football, Victor? I've yet to see you do it in 13 years of football forums. You have plenty of ideas criticising those who do. What have you contributed to this threat that is proactive, champ? Your last post is evocative of your negative attitude. Here is an idea, why don't you provide a precursory synopsis of your last book on football you wrote? I'd eagerly look forward to it, instead of your constant moaning and negativity. On psychology, I have a degree in it. It's like nothing has happened over the last week or two. Decentric still resorting to abusive nicknames and criticising the posts of others. Forget about your proactive/active poster dichotomy- people are entitled to post in whatever style they wish. When you post nonsense, it needs pointing out to others. That's why my posts are apparently "negative" in your eyes. I've provided plenty of useful football information on here- which I'm sure was of great value to you years ago when you knew nothing about football. So get off your high horse- do you really think calling people Victor and Champ is in keeping with the reconcilitary atmosphere that now prevails?? Keep this up and I'll will be reporting you to the mods. I look forward to your proactive, precursory synopsis of your last book. I think it will be well received! Good to see moving forwards. I think it will add to traffic and enhance the reputation of the forum.
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localstar
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+x+x+xIt would be interesting to know how some of the people who love conflict on the internet are in face to face contact off forum? My guess is they are angry, but too cowardly to confront others face to face and diss out abuse. The Internet is a great place for them to express how macho they can be by banging on keys. There is is a clear message on this thread about most wanting to discuss football in a civil manner on this forum. We have seen many posts from former regulars, which has been beneficial. We can do without your amateur psychology, decentric. And your wild guesses about other people's lives. Keep it normal... Why don't you ever start a thread about any issue in football, Victor? I've yet to see you do it in 13 years of football forums. You have plenty of ideas criticising those who do. What have you contributed to this threat that is proactive, champ? Your last post is evocative of your negative attitude. Here is an idea, why don't you provide a precursory synopsis of your last book on football you wrote? I'd eagerly look forward to it, instead of your constant moaning and negativity. On psychology, I have a degree in it. It's like nothing has happened over the last week or two. Decentric still resorting to abusive nicknames and criticising the posts of others. Forget about your proactive/active poster dichotomy- people are entitled to post in whatever style they wish. When you post nonsense, it needs pointing out to others. That's why my posts are apparently "negative" in your eyes. I've provided plenty of useful football information on here- which I'm sure was of great value to you years ago when you knew nothing about football. So get off your high horse- do you really think calling people Victor and Champ is in keeping with the reconcilitary atmosphere that now prevails?? Keep this up and I'll will be reporting you to the mods.
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Splithead
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+x[Posting in AF for visibility] G’day It’s no secret that activity levels on this beautiful and once-vibrant forum are at all-time lows. If you’re reading this right now, it means you care even a little bit about this place, and probably have some ideas on how we can breathe life into it again. Over in the mod subforum we've been brainstorming some ideas but really need a whole lot more brainpower, hence this call to arms. I’d like to request 3 things from everyone: 1. How did you initially discover the forums? 2. What’s kept you around? 3. Any ideas for acquiring new users? e.g. for me: 1. Article comments linked to the forum. This was how I and many others actually discovered the forum’s existence in the first place. I was a commenter for a good few years before even realising there was a forum connected. InsideSport still gets a decent amount of traffic who visit for the articles, and it seems like the lowest hanging fruit for getting new users involved. 2. Initially it was Joffa keeping everyone up to date with EVERYTHING. Legit, the FFT forums were almost entirely my one-stop-shop for Aussie football news because Joffa would scour the internet daily and collate all the relevant stories for everyone. Is there any way we can beg him to come back? (I don't know him outside of the forum) 3. Kind of already summarised above, but my two ideas are re-connect the forum to the articles, and bring back Joffa. I know we're all a negative bunch sometimes, but can we please keep all criticism in this thread constructive/as positive as possible? No negative comments about other forum members here please - save that for another day when we hopefully still have a forum to express said feelings... 1. How did you initially discover the forums? Searched on the Web looking to see if the same issues are occurring in youth leagues around the country. 2. What’s kept you around? I the hope that someone of authority will listen to real problems and solutions. 3. Any ideas for acquiring new users? Stay real and don't censor comments where possible.
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AJF
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+x+x+x+x+x+xjfc no need to be so fucking bitter Decentric I'm being positive. My concept as the progenitor of this thread, was to ascertain the thoughts of forum posters - the many positive ones . We have had a lot of input from many former regular posters, and current regulars. I see a dichotomy between two groups: 1. Proactive. 2. Reactive. 1. Proactive posters who are quite positive and post here to engage in football discussion and access football news. Many of these people start threads about football. They are usually disinterested in conflict on the internet. 2. Reactive posters who whinge about others and seek internet conflict. They never start any football threads, but criticise others who do. Moreover, when a critical mass of these negative cynics comprise the majority of posters on any forum, they drive most of group 1 away. Consequently, the forum dies. There are obviously some who are a combination of 1 and 2. In this thread many of 1 have clearly expressed why they haven't posted here for a while, or regulars of 1 have expressed more ideas how to improve the forum. Pertinently, many in group 2 don't like what they read expressed by group1. If you are reading this, Kevin, in the interests of preserving the forum, listen intently to what group 1 has to say - and - act on as much as possible. I know you'd like to kick quite a few of group 2 where the does not shine - and - off the forum. Cheeez D, you didn't need to finish off with that last sentence. Low balling. I know for sure I'm not one you place in grp2 but that kind of comment from the sideline just isn't on. Were all different and some of the grp 2 make this place active at the same time. It takes all types mate as they say, life would be bloody boring full of grp1's. Fair comments, LFC. Although too many of 2 compared to 1 on any forum, at any given time, destroyed TWGF and even Football Anarchy. Would love to know you thoughts on the impact trolls like Colin Oscopy had on football anarchy? I thought FA was synonymous with troll mating season - and - multis were a prerequisite? Surely, you aren't going to pontificate that it was a forum comprised of paragons of virtue, AJF? It is rumoured FA probably only has circa 8 posters left and that nobody really knows who is who on it. Are you ECP, Chips Rafferty, Ionio, Ram, Colin Oscopy, Edude, etcetera? They tell me once all those trolls became the mainstays of the forum, it imploded didn't it? Surely, you are not advocating it as a successful paradigm for FTBL Forum to emulate are you? You can't be serious. Oh dear, imagine the hypocrisy of admitting to being a troll that should have been banned and trying to save FA because 442 was dead and yet here we are, less than 12 months later and your bleeding heart is now trying save 442. Transcript below for those who cant access FA - Decentric
 » Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:32 am If this were to become a viable, and bigger, football forum a few things would need to occur as a potential football site to replace a mooted, defunct 442. 1. There needs to be a link to a parent website with a lot of football articles linked to this site. Without football content, most genuine FA members have left. About 10 enjoy abusing each other about nothing. A minority want to engage in this behaviour. Essentially, these guys abuse each other with allegiances changing all the time. There could be an opportunity for the FA site owners to make money with links to other football sites as the number of hits increase through new members signing up as they follow the football articles. Businesses love advertising on sites that generate a lot of hits. 2. The hide users/mute/block mechanism would need to be installed on Football Anarchy. On 442 one can install this mechanism and read nothing that a few obnoxious individuals post. This would allow those who love acrimonious exchanges to continue as they do. Those who don't want to participate in this behaviour could read none of their posts. It could end up with few reading their posts - incurring minimal responses. It also provides mods with far less work. 3. There would have to be some more consistent admin and moderation than there currently is on FA. I admit to being the most obnoxious poster on FA posting under a satirical, facetious, parodying, troll account. Anywhere else CO and AJF should've been banned. I just can't believe, and others too, what CO and AJF has been allowed to troll on FA with no repercussions! The FA posters targeted by CO and AJF have been muted elsewhere where one wants to engage in more genuine football discussion. The normative concept of this football forum potentially existing as an an ideal paradigm, is paramount over its empirical history to date. Hopefully, FA rebrands itself. Good luck. 

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Decentric
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I've looked repeatedly, and used Search to find a post Benjamin made in this thread about people not accepting that there needs to be Promo/Releg and 20 odd pro teams to create many more stories in the football media.
I can't find it.
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Decentric
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+xAs I have said in the past, forums are now dead. It's a dated form of communication. Something that in general has been dying off for the past 5 years. Evident across all forums I am on except possibly one which somehow always attracts new users. Social media has taken over, I'm on a few Australian football groups on facebook which have far more activity and discussion than this place. I've seen it all in the past on forums I was once part of, suggestions to merge sub forums etc creates some activity and gives a "boost" visually but in reality it will slowly keep dropping off. It's a form of communication for old heads. You won't be seeing many new younger users (16-21) joining here when they join facebook groups out of convenience. Just reality, but yes having the comments on articles link to the forum was good. I've heard this repeatedly. But one can't participate and assume anonymity on FB.
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Decentric
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+x+x+x+x+xjfc no need to be so fucking bitter Decentric I'm being positive. My concept as the progenitor of this thread, was to ascertain the thoughts of forum posters - the many positive ones . We have had a lot of input from many former regular posters, and current regulars. I see a dichotomy between two groups: 1. Proactive. 2. Reactive. 1. Proactive posters who are quite positive and post here to engage in football discussion and access football news. Many of these people start threads about football. They are usually disinterested in conflict on the internet. 2. Reactive posters who whinge about others and seek internet conflict. They never start any football threads, but criticise others who do. Moreover, when a critical mass of these negative cynics comprise the majority of posters on any forum, they drive most of group 1 away. Consequently, the forum dies. There are obviously some who are a combination of 1 and 2. In this thread many of 1 have clearly expressed why they haven't posted here for a while, or regulars of 1 have expressed more ideas how to improve the forum. Pertinently, many in group 2 don't like what they read expressed by group1. If you are reading this, Kevin, in the interests of preserving the forum, listen intently to what group 1 has to say - and - act on as much as possible. I know you'd like to kick quite a few of group 2 where the does not shine - and - off the forum. Cheeez D, you didn't need to finish off with that last sentence. Low balling. I know for sure I'm not one you place in grp2 but that kind of comment from the sideline just isn't on. Were all different and some of the grp 2 make this place active at the same time. It takes all types mate as they say, life would be bloody boring full of grp1's. Fair comments, LFC. Although too many of 2 compared to 1 on any forum, at any given time, destroyed TWGF and even Football Anarchy. Would love to know you thoughts on the impact trolls like Colin Oscopy had on football anarchy? I thought FA was synonymous with troll mating season - and - multis were a prerequisite? Surely, you aren't going to pontificate that it was a forum comprised of paragons of virtue, AJF? It is rumoured FA probably only has circa 8 posters left and that nobody really knows who is who on it. Are you ECP, Chips Rafferty, Ionio, Ram, Colin Oscopy, Edude, etcetera? They tell me once all those trolls became the mainstays of the forum, it imploded didn't it? Surely, you are not advocating it as a successful paradigm for FTBL Forum to emulate are you? You can't be serious.
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Enzo Bearzot
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xjfc no need to be so fucking bitter Decentric I'm being positive. My concept as the progenitor of this thread, was to ascertain the thoughts of forum posters - the many positive ones . We have had a lot of input from many former regular posters, and current regulars. I see a dichotomy between two groups: 1. Proactive. 2. Reactive. 1. Proactive posters who are quite positive and post here to engage in football discussion and access football news. Many of these people start threads about football. They are usually disinterested in conflict on the internet. 2. Reactive posters who whinge about others and seek internet conflict. They never start any football threads, but criticise others who do. Moreover, when a critical mass of these negative cynics comprise the majority of posters on any forum, they drive most of group 1 away. Consequently, the forum dies. There are obviously some who are a combination of 1 and 2. In this thread many of 1 have clearly expressed why they haven't posted here for a while, or regulars of 1 have expressed more ideas how to improve the forum. Pertinently, many in group 2 don't like what they read expressed by group1. If you are reading this, Kevin, in the interests of preserving the forum, listen intently to what group 1 has to say - and - act on as much as possible. I know you'd like to kick quite a few of group 2 where the does not shine - and - off the forum. Cheeez D, you didn't need to finish off with that last sentence. Low balling. I know for sure I'm not one you place in grp2 but that kind of comment from the sideline just isn't on. Were all different and some of the grp 2 make this place active at the same time. It takes all types mate as they say, life would be bloody boring full of grp1's. Fair comments, LFC. Although too many of 2 compared to 1 on any forum, at any given time, destroyed TWGF and even Football Anarchy. Would love to know you thoughts on the impact trolls like Colin Oscopy had on football anarchy? I lol'd. Decentric and Colin have a long and very interesting history on FA, so watching him pontificate on here about trolls and people derailing threads is quite a laugh Good that you got to the bottom of it all.
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Less x-Team out - more Xtra-Teams in will help.
Clear Contact There
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+x+x+x+xBowen Have done some thinking and have an idea, and I am note sure how the forum will react but would welcome, feedback to see if it’s a good idea or the worst suggestion ever made on the forum. But first a couple of little thing that drives me crazy, a breaking story can have multi people starting a threads and for me it makes sense that’s mods would move the latter threads to the one that was started first. Second like many the name calling and so on needs to kept in check otherwise why come back. Now back to my idea and its possible it’s the worst ever suggestion or makes a lot of sense. Some framing to start with, mainstream media gives few Football stories and forums in the say early days of forums where were people could spread good news and mention the positive things that never made the media… in fact back in the day Football stories were rare so forums provided a place to go. Today Forums have competition from, various other online platforms. Meaning we need to make the site worth a visit. Finally… OK OK … the idea.. the mods create a concept of forum journalist / writer or what ever name you wanta call it. The idea is posters could submit to the mods essentially a Football article for there judgement that this is a mod recommended and supported thread. The articles be between 500 & 750 words and be reasonably well written and written in a way to encourage debate highlighting a particular aspect of Football in Australia. Smaller threads as always could be started by anyone and key articles as now published with a link. In NodeBB you could create a group called "Forum Writer" "Researcher" or the such, then make it invite only. Anyone who creates content like you suggested could get invite by KA himself for what it's worth. You can create groups for specific tasks of the forum "Moderator" "Social Networker" etc Jeez , why do we want to over complicate everything nowadays , soon we will have to have a degree in journalism to post on here ffs , it’s meant to be about football discussion and a bit of fun not “NodeBB” whatever the fuck that is. Surely you must see merit in the proposition that if nothing is done, this forum will die? At the same time you've made a valid point. 100% something must be done as numbers are down, would just prefer if the KISS approach were used that’s all .
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+x+x+x+x+x+xjfc no need to be so fucking bitter Decentric I'm being positive. My concept as the progenitor of this thread, was to ascertain the thoughts of forum posters - the many positive ones . We have had a lot of input from many former regular posters, and current regulars. I see a dichotomy between two groups: 1. Proactive. 2. Reactive. 1. Proactive posters who are quite positive and post here to engage in football discussion and access football news. Many of these people start threads about football. They are usually disinterested in conflict on the internet. 2. Reactive posters who whinge about others and seek internet conflict. They never start any football threads, but criticise others who do. Moreover, when a critical mass of these negative cynics comprise the majority of posters on any forum, they drive most of group 1 away. Consequently, the forum dies. There are obviously some who are a combination of 1 and 2. In this thread many of 1 have clearly expressed why they haven't posted here for a while, or regulars of 1 have expressed more ideas how to improve the forum. Pertinently, many in group 2 don't like what they read expressed by group1. If you are reading this, Kevin, in the interests of preserving the forum, listen intently to what group 1 has to say - and - act on as much as possible. I know you'd like to kick quite a few of group 2 where the does not shine - and - off the forum. Cheeez D, you didn't need to finish off with that last sentence. Low balling. I know for sure I'm not one you place in grp2 but that kind of comment from the sideline just isn't on. Were all different and some of the grp 2 make this place active at the same time. It takes all types mate as they say, life would be bloody boring full of grp1's. Fair comments, LFC. Although too many of 2 compared to 1 on any forum, at any given time, destroyed TWGF and even Football Anarchy. Would love to know you thoughts on the impact trolls like Colin Oscopy had on football anarchy? I lol'd. Decentric and Colin have a long and very interesting history on FA, so watching him pontificate on here about trolls and people derailing threads is quite a laugh
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+x+x+x+x+xjfc no need to be so fucking bitter Decentric I'm being positive. My concept as the progenitor of this thread, was to ascertain the thoughts of forum posters - the many positive ones . We have had a lot of input from many former regular posters, and current regulars. I see a dichotomy between two groups: 1. Proactive. 2. Reactive. 1. Proactive posters who are quite positive and post here to engage in football discussion and access football news. Many of these people start threads about football. They are usually disinterested in conflict on the internet. 2. Reactive posters who whinge about others and seek internet conflict. They never start any football threads, but criticise others who do. Moreover, when a critical mass of these negative cynics comprise the majority of posters on any forum, they drive most of group 1 away. Consequently, the forum dies. There are obviously some who are a combination of 1 and 2. In this thread many of 1 have clearly expressed why they haven't posted here for a while, or regulars of 1 have expressed more ideas how to improve the forum. Pertinently, many in group 2 don't like what they read expressed by group1. If you are reading this, Kevin, in the interests of preserving the forum, listen intently to what group 1 has to say - and - act on as much as possible. I know you'd like to kick quite a few of group 2 where the does not shine - and - off the forum. Cheeez D, you didn't need to finish off with that last sentence. Low balling. I know for sure I'm not one you place in grp2 but that kind of comment from the sideline just isn't on. Were all different and some of the grp 2 make this place active at the same time. It takes all types mate as they say, life would be bloody boring full of grp1's. Fair comments, LFC. Although too many of 2 compared to 1 on any forum, at any given time, destroyed TWGF and even Football Anarchy. Would love to know you thoughts on the impact trolls like Colin Oscopy had on football anarchy? I lol'd.
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+x+x+x+xjfc no need to be so fucking bitter Decentric I'm being positive. My concept as the progenitor of this thread, was to ascertain the thoughts of forum posters - the many positive ones . We have had a lot of input from many former regular posters, and current regulars. I see a dichotomy between two groups: 1. Proactive. 2. Reactive. 1. Proactive posters who are quite positive and post here to engage in football discussion and access football news. Many of these people start threads about football. They are usually disinterested in conflict on the internet. 2. Reactive posters who whinge about others and seek internet conflict. They never start any football threads, but criticise others who do. Moreover, when a critical mass of these negative cynics comprise the majority of posters on any forum, they drive most of group 1 away. Consequently, the forum dies. There are obviously some who are a combination of 1 and 2. In this thread many of 1 have clearly expressed why they haven't posted here for a while, or regulars of 1 have expressed more ideas how to improve the forum. Pertinently, many in group 2 don't like what they read expressed by group1. If you are reading this, Kevin, in the interests of preserving the forum, listen intently to what group 1 has to say - and - act on as much as possible. I know you'd like to kick quite a few of group 2 where the does not shine - and - off the forum. Cheeez D, you didn't need to finish off with that last sentence. Low balling. I know for sure I'm not one you place in grp2 but that kind of comment from the sideline just isn't on. Were all different and some of the grp 2 make this place active at the same time. It takes all types mate as they say, life would be bloody boring full of grp1's. Fair comments, LFC. Although too many of 2 compared to 1 on any forum, at any given time, destroyed TWGF and even Football Anarchy. Would love to know you thoughts on the impact trolls like Colin Oscopy had on football anarchy?
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+xIt would be interesting to know how some of the people who love conflict on the internet are in face to face contact off forum? My guess is they are angry, but too cowardly to confront others face to face and diss out abuse. The Internet is a great place for them to express how macho they can be by banging on keys. There is is a clear message on this thread about most wanting to discuss football in a civil manner on this forum. We have seen many posts from former regulars, which has been beneficial. Maybe they can create multiple accounts and abuse people that way? Tongue in cheek or otherwise.
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+x+x+xBowen Have done some thinking and have an idea, and I am note sure how the forum will react but would welcome, feedback to see if it’s a good idea or the worst suggestion ever made on the forum. But first a couple of little thing that drives me crazy, a breaking story can have multi people starting a threads and for me it makes sense that’s mods would move the latter threads to the one that was started first. Second like many the name calling and so on needs to kept in check otherwise why come back. Now back to my idea and its possible it’s the worst ever suggestion or makes a lot of sense. Some framing to start with, mainstream media gives few Football stories and forums in the say early days of forums where were people could spread good news and mention the positive things that never made the media… in fact back in the day Football stories were rare so forums provided a place to go. Today Forums have competition from, various other online platforms. Meaning we need to make the site worth a visit. Finally… OK OK … the idea.. the mods create a concept of forum journalist / writer or what ever name you wanta call it. The idea is posters could submit to the mods essentially a Football article for there judgement that this is a mod recommended and supported thread. The articles be between 500 & 750 words and be reasonably well written and written in a way to encourage debate highlighting a particular aspect of Football in Australia. Smaller threads as always could be started by anyone and key articles as now published with a link. In NodeBB you could create a group called "Forum Writer" "Researcher" or the such, then make it invite only. Anyone who creates content like you suggested could get invite by KA himself for what it's worth. You can create groups for specific tasks of the forum "Moderator" "Social Networker" etc Jeez , why do we want to over complicate everything nowadays , soon we will have to have a degree in journalism to post on here ffs , it’s meant to be about football discussion and a bit of fun not “NodeBB” whatever the fuck that is. Surely you must see merit in the proposition that if nothing is done, this forum will die? At the same time you've made a valid point.
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This is thread for suggestions, not for self righteous aggrandising bitter grandstanding. Keep a leash on it, please.
I like the articles by forumites thing, alot of people here seem to express themselves very well.
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this thread mirrors the ffa and the a league
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+x+x+xjfc no need to be so fucking bitter Decentric I'm being positive. My concept as the progenitor of this thread, was to ascertain the thoughts of forum posters - the many positive ones . We have had a lot of input from many former regular posters, and current regulars. I see a dichotomy between two groups: 1. Proactive. 2. Reactive. 1. Proactive posters who are quite positive and post here to engage in football discussion and access football news. Many of these people start threads about football. They are usually disinterested in conflict on the internet. 2. Reactive posters who whinge about others and seek internet conflict. They never start any football threads, but criticise others who do. Moreover, when a critical mass of these negative cynics comprise the majority of posters on any forum, they drive most of group 1 away. Consequently, the forum dies. There are obviously some who are a combination of 1 and 2. In this thread many of 1 have clearly expressed why they haven't posted here for a while, or regulars of 1 have expressed more ideas how to improve the forum. Pertinently, many in group 2 don't like what they read expressed by group1. If you are reading this, Kevin, in the interests of preserving the forum, listen intently to what group 1 has to say - and - act on as much as possible. I know you'd like to kick quite a few of group 2 where the does not shine - and - off the forum. Cheeez D, you didn't need to finish off with that last sentence. Low balling. I know for sure I'm not one you place in grp2 but that kind of comment from the sideline just isn't on. Were all different and some of the grp 2 make this place active at the same time. It takes all types mate as they say, life would be bloody boring full of grp1's. Fair comments, LFC. Although too many of 2 compared to 1 on any forum, at any given time, destroyed TWGF and even Football Anarchy.
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+x+xI think it's pretty bad that State Football is separate from Australian football. 100% When I invested a shit tonne of time into making that NPL players Thread in SF, I assumed people would visit that part of the forum more often. considering it is essentially a massive part of Aus Football. It is annoying that people bring up threads on AF about NPL players who have been in good form and could be worth a shot in the AL when there is a thread dedicated to NPL players and there current whereabouts and updates. I think this could be a massive thing if it was in AF. Since no one really bats an eye to State football I've pretty much given up on it. Much like the rest of the forum. A real shame to read this, DS98. I seem to remember you having many insights into youth football and the HAL YL in Melbourne. I found your posts really informative. I also confuse you with another poster I was going to meet up with In Tas, and whose son played for Melb City Youth and was a Joey. I really enjoyed them. Your contributions have been missed, mate. I'm sure many others have missed them too.
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+x+xjfc no need to be so fucking bitter Decentric I'm being positive. My concept as the progenitor of this thread, was to ascertain the thoughts of forum posters - the many positive ones . We have had a lot of input from many former regular posters, and current regulars. I see a dichotomy between two groups: 1. Proactive. 2. Reactive. 1. Proactive posters who are quite positive and post here to engage in football discussion and access football news. Many of these people start threads about football. They are usually disinterested in conflict on the internet. 2. Reactive posters who whinge about others and seek internet conflict. They never start any football threads, but criticise others who do. Moreover, when a critical mass of these negative cynics comprise the majority of posters on any forum, they drive most of group 1 away. Consequently, the forum dies. There are obviously some who are a combination of 1 and 2. In this thread many of 1 have clearly expressed why they haven't posted here for a while, or regulars of 1 have expressed more ideas how to improve the forum. Pertinently, many in group 2 don't like what they read expressed by group1. If you are reading this, Kevin, in the interests of preserving the forum, listen intently to what group 1 has to say - and - act on as much as possible. I know you'd like to kick quite a few of group 2 where the does not shine - and - off the forum. Cheeez D, you didn't need to finish off with that last sentence. Low balling. I know for sure I'm not one you place in grp2 but that kind of comment from the sideline just isn't on. Were all different and some of the grp 2 make this place active at the same time. It takes all types mate as they say, life would be bloody boring full of grp1's.
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+xAs I have said in the past, forums are now dead. It's a dated form of communication. Something that in general has been dying off for the past 5 years. Evident across all forums I am on except possibly one which somehow always attracts new users. Social media has taken over, I'm on a few Australian football groups on facebook which have far more activity and discussion than this place. I've seen it all in the past on forums I was once part of, suggestions to merge sub forums etc creates some activity and gives a "boost" visually but in reality it will slowly keep dropping off. It's a form of communication for old heads. You won't be seeing many new younger users (16-21) joining here when they join facebook groups out of convenience. Just reality, but yes having the comments on articles link to the forum was good. I use FB a lot, particularly for political activism, travel, social events, news, but many don't want to disclose their identity in football discussions on the internet .
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+x[Posting in AF for visibility] G’day It’s no secret that activity levels on this beautiful and once-vibrant forum are at all-time lows. If you’re reading this right now, it means you care even a little bit about this place, and probably have some ideas on how we can breathe life into it again. Over in the mod subforum we've been brainstorming some ideas but really need a whole lot more brainpower, hence this call to arms. I’d like to request 3 things from everyone: 1. How did you initially discover the forums? 2. What’s kept you around? 3. Any ideas for acquiring new users? e.g. for me: 1. Article comments linked to the forum. This was how I and many others actually discovered the forum’s existence in the first place. I was a commenter for a good few years before even realising there was a forum connected. InsideSport still gets a decent amount of traffic who visit for the articles, and it seems like the lowest hanging fruit for getting new users involved. 2. Initially it was Joffa keeping everyone up to date with EVERYTHING. Legit, the FFT forums were almost entirely my one-stop-shop for Aussie football news because Joffa would scour the internet daily and collate all the relevant stories for everyone. Is there any way we can beg him to come back? (I don't know him outside of the forum) 3. Kind of already summarised above, but my two ideas are re-connect the forum to the articles, and bring back Joffa. I know we're all a negative bunch sometimes, but can we please keep all criticism in this thread constructive/as positive as possible? No negative comments about other forum members here please - save that for another day when we hopefully still have a forum to express said feelings... 1/ This was the only place where you could discuss Australian football with like minded people that loved the sport without saying its shit. Also there was a massive amount of quality posters and it made this place feel like home for some reason. I guess oz football was going well at the time as well helped before FFA ran the sport into the ground. 2/ I don't know any other forums where people discuss Australian football if i did know i would have left already. 3/ Try and get all the original posters back who made this place amazing ie Joffa with the constant articles he would find like bowmen said. This place has become so bitchy and full of snowflakes like joyful penguin.
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+x Finally… OK OK … the idea.. the mods create a concept of forum journalist / writer or what ever name you wanta call it. The idea is posters could submit to the mods essentially a Football article for there judgement that this is a mod recommended and supported thread. The articles be between 500 & 750 words and be reasonably well written and written in a way to encourage debate highlighting a particular aspect of Football in Australia. Smaller threads as always could be started by anyone and key articles as now published with a link. Great idea, Midfielder.
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