Daniel Arzani being wasted at Celtic?!


Daniel Arzani being wasted at Celtic?!

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No doubt he has tremendous potential but the kid played half a season of A-League, of which the majority of those games he didn’t even play the full 90 mins. I actually recall a few games he was crippled with cramp by about the 70 mins mark because he wasn’t conditioned for it. He went OS far too underdone and then unfortunately injured himself in the process.

I’d love to see him playing more but let’s be realistic here, he’s gotta work his way up to first team European football. He really should’ve taken a lead out of Aaron Mooys book and carved up the A-League for a good season or two before even considering heading off.
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paladisious - 8 Sep 2019 3:53 PM
City Sam - 8 Sep 2019 1:31 PM

Absolutely, and hopefully he'll still have a great career, but the truth is that the injury and the time off from development is a huge blow even in the best case scenario.

not always ..every player is different ..sometimes time off can prolong a players career....in others it allows the player to mature..both through being a year older and also the experience of "nearly losing it all" and beating it . 

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BrisbaneBhoy - 8 Sep 2019 6:52 PM
Balin Trev - 8 Sep 2019 4:26 PM

What do you mean by "still no sign of him"??
And... "Celtic will regret letting him go"??

I may be incorrect but I believe he means despite the fact Arzani is no longer injured he hasn't featured in any matches. Also 'Celtic will regret letting him go' may mean Celtic will regret not utilising his loan deal fully as they may potentially have an opportunity at purchasing him and he could go on to become a great player.
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Balin Trev - 8 Sep 2019 4:26 PM
lebo_roo - 6 Aug 2019 2:21 PM

Still no sign of him...stuff Celtic and Lennon. Celtic will regret letting him go in next few years when he is world class attacker playing elsewhere

What do you mean by "still no sign of him"??
And... "Celtic will regret letting him go"??

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lebo_roo - 6 Aug 2019 2:21 PM
Balin Trev - 6 Aug 2019 12:07 PM

He was part of the overall squad not the squad to travel to Romania in a crucial qualifier  and play his first minutes in 9 months. That's ridiculous. He will get his chance in the next month domestically once he is upto full fitness. 

Still no sign of him...stuff Celtic and Lennon. Celtic will regret letting him go in next few years when he is world class attacker playing elsewhere
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City Sam - 8 Sep 2019 1:31 PM
paladisious - 6 Sep 2019 9:16 PM

More and more with every passing year, medical science has improved a lot the past decade. It isn't a career ending injury anymore

Absolutely, and hopefully he'll still have a great career, but the truth is that the injury and the time off from development is a huge blow even in the best case scenario.
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inala brah - 8 Sep 2019 11:40 AM
BrisbaneBhoy - 7 Sep 2019 12:05 PM

do they train on artificial turf?

At Lennoxtown there is mostly grass (natural) pitches, but there is an artificial grass pitch also.

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paladisious - 6 Sep 2019 9:16 PM
Balin Trev - 6 Sep 2019 7:25 PM

Sure, but how many more players are there who's names we'll never know who never reached their potential thanks to an ACL?

More and more with every passing year, medical science has improved a lot the past decade. It isn't a career ending injury anymore
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Balin Trev - 8 Sep 2019 11:59 AM
Dan_The_Red - 7 Sep 2019 5:19 PM

Yep i see your point.. but I believe Arzani is a very rare world class attacker and can still have very successful career. Another player example is Rhyan Grant- maybe not world class player but is still playing career best football after 2 acl’s! So i would never write Arzani off. Still only 20 years old too

Also surgical techniques have come a long way in regard to knee injuries over the last 10-15 years.   Its amazing to see players coming back now from ACL reconstructions seemingly unimpeded.  It's not a death nell anymore in the way it was even as recently as Paul Okon's era.  Okon was never the same player after he came back.

Good reason to be optimistic.


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Dan_The_Red - 7 Sep 2019 5:19 PM
Balin Trev - 6 Sep 2019 7:25 PM

Thanks for providing 2 examples to dispute me. I’d provide some examples to counter, but I don’t know any names...cause they never made it.

Yep i see your point.. but I believe Arzani is a very rare world class attacker and can still have very successful career. Another player example is Rhyan Grant- maybe not world class player but is still playing career best football after 2 acl’s! So i would never write Arzani off. Still only 20 years old too
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BrisbaneBhoy - 7 Sep 2019 12:05 PM
jas88 - 7 Sep 2019 11:48 AM

Our central defenders always seem to be 😟😡

do they train on artificial turf?

 




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Balin Trev - 6 Sep 2019 7:25 PM
Dan_The_Red - 6 Sep 2019 5:20 PM

Zlatan ibrohimavich and Van Nistlerooy both did ACL’s and didn’t stop them kicking arse



Thanks for providing 2 examples to dispute me. I’d provide some examples to counter, but I don’t know any names...cause they never made it.

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jas88 - 7 Sep 2019 11:48 AM
is every Celtic player always injured even Tierney was injured during his transfer lol 

Our central defenders always seem to be 😟😡

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is every Celtic player always injured even Tierney was injured during his transfer lol 
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Balin Trev - 6 Sep 2019 7:25 PM
Dan_The_Red - 6 Sep 2019 5:20 PM

Zlatan ibrohimavich and Van Nistlerooy both did ACL’s and didn’t stop them kicking arse



Sure, but how many more players are there who's names we'll never know who never reached their potential thanks to an ACL?
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Balin Trev - 6 Sep 2019 2:29 PM
lebo_roo - 6 Aug 2019 11:56 AM

Arzani not named again today for Europa squad- nothing to do with injury. Rogic named despite his injury... F*ck Neil Lennon 

Actually, it has a fair bit to do with his injury. Rogic should be back in contention to play in the next week or two, Arzani still has some time to go.

Arzani also is currently a fair way down in the pecking order for a wing spot (due to him being out injured for so long), which means we don't need to rush him back before he is truly ready to make his return, as we have plenty of other options.  Let the kid recover properly, there is no need to rush things.

When he returns from his injury, if he is good enough to move up the pecking order, he will get minutes. But he does have competition for a place in the match day squad, so it won't come easy.

If he does move up the pecking order, and Celtic are still playing in Europe after Christmas, he may be added to the Europa League registration for the Knockout rounds.

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Dan_The_Red - 6 Sep 2019 5:20 PM
Arzani’s career at the top is effectively over before it began anyway, few player fulfil their potential after doing an ACL at such a young age.

Zlatan ibrohimavich and Van Nistlerooy both did ACL’s and didn’t stop them kicking arse



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Arzani’s career at the top is effectively over before it began anyway, few player fulfil their potential after doing an ACL at such a young age.
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Balin Trev - 6 Sep 2019 2:29 PM
lebo_roo - 6 Aug 2019 11:56 AM

Arzani not named again today for Europa squad- nothing to do with injury. Rogic named despite his injury... F*ck Neil Lennon 

In fairness to Lennon, the loan was signed off when Rodgers was in charge and even he barely knew of him at the time. 

Also he's coming off an ACL, just because he's young and an Aussie everyone is bleeding about him not getting picked.

The travel factor of the Europa League could also come into play and they don't want him flying around the place with a freshly reconstructed knee.

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lebo_roo - 6 Aug 2019 11:56 AM
LOL do your research on the Celtic squad and the fact he isn't even fit yet after his injury. 

Arzani not named again today for Europa squad- nothing to do with injury. Rogic named despite his injury... F*ck Neil Lennon 
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Balin Trev - 6 Aug 2019 11:49 AM
Watching Arzani highlights videos on YouTube it’s hard to NOT be impressed with his skills- both at A-league and Socceroos levels. Yet despite him recently saying that he was ready to play again he has just been dropped from Celtic squad. Wouldn’t he be better off going to another ‘lesser’ club where he would be a STARTING PLAYER in a team more ‘grateful’ and in need of a quality attacking player?!
I think he will be a real force in years to come but SICK of seeing him just sitting in the stands...

Arzani being wasted for sure. Today he was left out of 37 man Europa League squad again- injury of Rogic didn’t stop Neil Lennon naming Rogic in squad?! Has Lennon even watched his brilliant play at WCup last year?! F*ck Celtic Daniel! Go to another club that will let you PLAY and become the WORLD CLASS WINGER you are meant to be...
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SUTHERLANDBEAR - 15 Aug 2019 4:26 PM
BrisbaneBhoy - 15 Aug 2019 1:20 PM

Is this the same Rogic that gets slagged mercilously on here about being shite whilst playing for the NT ?

Well, from half of the forum. The other half cry foul he hasn't been signed from a club from the continent or the EPL yet.

Make no mistake,  when Rogic is fit, he does awesome for us, and for that I am happy and grateful. I am fine if he stays.  Will be interesting to see how he goes when he returns to full fitness. Especially with Christie's form of late. He has a real challenge for the number 10 role on his hands.

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BrisbaneBhoy - 15 Aug 2019 1:20 PM
b0ydman - 15 Aug 2019 5:10 AM

*Only counting Celtic's transfers here (there are a few more from the other Scottish teams during the same period that I haven't counted).

In the seven seasons that Rogic has been at Celtic, 12 players have moved on to teams in the "Big 5" leagues + another 5 players to the leagues just below the "Big 5". This says more about Rogic, then that of the quality of the league/competition, as there is plenty of other players making the move to the stronger leagues from this so called "7th rate competition", whereas Rogic hasn't.

Maybe Rogic isn't as good as you all believe/make him out to be?? Maybe he has found his true level (a "7th rate competition" level player)??  Don't get me wrong, I like the lad, and glad he is playing for Celtic.  That said, I also have no issues him moving on (as long as we gets a fair fee for him).

Is this the same Rogic that gets slagged mercilously on here about being shite whilst playing for the NT ?
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b0ydman - 15 Aug 2019 5:10 AM
BrisbaneBhoy - 14 Aug 2019 7:52 PM

Rogics career is as good as black holed 

What a graveyard of a 7th rate competition

*Only counting Celtic's transfers here (there are a few more from the other Scottish teams during the same period that I haven't counted).

In the seven seasons that Rogic has been at Celtic, 12 players have moved on to teams in the "Big 5" leagues + another 5 players to the leagues just below the "Big 5". This says more about Rogic, then that of the quality of the league/competition, as there is plenty of other players making the move to the stronger leagues from this so called "7th rate competition", whereas Rogic hasn't.

Maybe Rogic isn't as good as you all believe/make him out to be?? Maybe he has found his true level (a "7th rate competition" level player)??  Don't get me wrong, I like the lad, and glad he is playing for Celtic.  That said, I also have no issues him moving on (as long as we gets a fair fee for him).


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BrisbaneBhoy - 14 Aug 2019 7:52 PM
highkick05 - 14 Aug 2019 7:49 PM

Yep. I have nothing against the kid, nor this move (although a bigger fee would have been preferred). He was always going to move on, he is far to good not too.

Rogics career is as good as black holed 

What a graveyard of a 7th rate competition
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highkick05 - 14 Aug 2019 7:49 PM
BrisbaneBhoy - 14 Aug 2019 7:17 PM

Tierney deserves that move he's a champion .

Yep. I have nothing against the kid, nor this move (although a bigger fee would have been preferred). He was always going to move on, he is far to good not too.

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BrisbaneBhoy - 14 Aug 2019 7:17 PM
melbourne_terrace - 8 Aug 2019 10:20 AM

Yep,  and to make things worse, not qualifying for the CL group stage means the board will more then likely not give any of that money to Lennon for strengthen the squad.

Tierney deserves that move he's a champion .


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Yeah hasn't been long enough, was good seeing him kicking the ball around. 

I doubt Celtic have a fucking say in it. Man City own him and I doubt they would let him back there before he's 100% 


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lebo_roo - 6 Aug 2019 11:56 AM
LOL do your research on the Celtic squad and the fact he isn't even fit yet after his injury. 

And this at the OP.

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melbourne_terrace - 8 Aug 2019 10:20 AM
tsf - 8 Aug 2019 10:15 AM

Oh man I didn't realised it was confirmed (it's to Arsenal though). Not even close to what he's worth in today's stupidly inflated market though. 

Yep,  and to make things worse, not qualifying for the CL group stage means the board will more then likely not give any of that money to Lennon for strengthen the squad.

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