I copied and pasted it the wrong way tried to fix it but the forum edit wouldnt let me change it around so i re-posted the poll made the answer simple do you care about Nz football? 

For me i honestly could give a single f**k i only support them in the sense having a NZ team in the HAL does add an extra club but i personally think TV and branding money should only be split between Aussie clubs and the Skysports NZ deal should go to the Nix no AUSTRALIAN or FFA Money should support anything NZ because the NZ FA and wide NZ community give barely anything to football 

We have limited resources and i honestly dont understand why we would support NZ in any way - i think there participation in the HAL is taken forgranted and the Nz Government/FA should be pouring money into there only professional club 

I dont have anything against the Nix if they can self sustain with NZ support im all for it and if NZ FA wanted to give them loads of money to make them a super power in the league im all for it! because it helps Australia but in regards to us supporting them in ANYWAY other then allowing them to participate i dont support it. 

I WOULD support another NZ based team to grow the league assuming it was totally funded by NZ and the NZ FA 

Nope, time to kick Nix out already.

Why?? What harm do they cause??

Are you serious? 

I don't understand why you would want to make the league have even less teams as it already has.  The league needs more teams, not less.

Couldn't careless. 

Imagine caring and hoping a world cup rivalry does well. We don't care about indonesia or China.  Why is NZ different?

How many years has this shark been going on now 15 or so years.
Get over it.  

Should have 4 options 

1. Aussie and care
2. Aussie and don’t care 
3. NZ and care
4. NZ and don’t care

Australia needs Wellington more then Wellington needs Australia.

lol.

The only reason I'd care about NZ football is IF it boosts Australian football. But that "if" is questionable at best.

Not really. Why should I care more about NZ football any more than English, German, Egyptian or Fijian football. They had the chance to join Australia in 1900 and chose not to, so they’re just another country like all others. If we can make a dollar out of them, then sure, but that’s not the case. 

Id prefer to say that i care about the nix and any other nz pro team that was in the a-league rather than caring around their football system/ national team. 

There area dozens of clubs across the world that play in foreign leagues,  though this arguement doesn't need to be hashed out again, what's the problem with more professional teams in the a-league. nz is very unlikely to have a fully professional league anytime soon.  So maybe time to move on. 

Not sure whether there are "dozens" of clubs in foreign leagues, but how many are from different federations?  I would venture not many.  THAT'S the real problem with having a NZ team in the A-League.

I'm Aussie and I don't care about NZ football.  At all.  I don't think they should have a team in the A-League (let alone two as some have mentioned), but I'm not outraged by it or anything. 
The one concession I would make is that I do barrack for them in the World Cup finals when they are in (just doing the neighbourly thing), as long as it's not to Australia's detriment. 

The real question is, should NZ be forced to join the AFC to justify Wellington's existence in the A League? 

AFC don’t want them. 

West Asia already feels we are taking one of their WC spots. Why would they want another country that would be a contender.

Likewise, when WC goes larger and OFC get an automatic spot- Why would NZ want to leave?

I'm well aware of this. The point I was making is that despite NZ not being welcome in Asia, the AFC continues to let one of its members' top flight professional league operate with a team from a non-member country. Seeing as WP are unable to compete in the ACL to begin with, surely it would just make more sense for the AFC to simply kick WP out? I'm not necessarily saying I would be in support of this idea, but as others have stated, it is extremely unusual for a club to be able to compete in a foreign confederation in the first place.   

About as much as I care for the Australian NPL.
ie, not much.

Yeah.  More Australian teams.

How about a new poll, who's sick of this senseless discussion?

Big soft spot for the Kiwis. It's nice when one of their players makes a good move or when they get a good international result or when they pack out a stadium for a WCQ or something.  It's nice to see. 

I would like to rehash the idea of having a Oceania team in the A-League playing out of New Caledonia. 

How about expanding the FFA by absorbing OFC nations as member feds once the OFC goes into liquidation?

I care, i /we had a great time going to watch SFC there in 2015.

In all honesty I don’t care much for the New Zealand FA. 
that being said I care for the nix. They are welcome in the league but as previously stated they need to sort some of their shit out. 
That being said, they seem to give young aussies more of a chance than a lot of other Aussie teams 

Can anyone name one other club in world football that doesn't play in their own country's  federation?
Not having a go (maybe I am), but I am genuinely interested to know.
I think Wellington are to only club in the world in that situation.  Happy to be proven wrong. 

Not regular season, but countries like New Caledonia can have their teams qualify for both the Oceania Champions league and Europe.

Swansea city for starters !

I don’t see what the confederation has to do with it anyway, why does it matter that Nix are in a different confederation anyway? 

Wales has professional clubs in Cardiff, Swansea, Wrexham and Newport all playing in English competitions - that’s more controversial than the one professional club in NZ playing in Australia’s 

England and Wales are both members of UEFA💡

I know they are but so what? 

The Confederations are an administrative zone for FIFA to run its world - there is no reason why a club like Nix can’t play across confederations. 

That seems to be FIFAs view too. 

Fair enough if that's your view. But as has already been pointed out, those clubs you listed are all recognized by UEFA. It's a totally false comparison and definitely isn't "more controversial" than WP playing in the A League. 

I would say it is more controversial. 

Wales clearly has enough professional clubs to run its own professional league and grow the game in Wales. I (assume) that supporters in Wales and England aren’t up in arms over this topic though and that football forums aren’t flooded with nonsense debates on the topic? 

Then we get to the non argument. There’s isn’t a FIFA ruling that prohibits clubs from one confederation competing in a different confederations tournaments. 

Nix are permitted by FIFA to play in Australia. 

Israel, for political reasons, are allowed to play in some UEFA competitions 

I’m pretty sure if the Falkland Islands ever put up a national team they would be assigned to a different confederation to Argentina because FIFA allows these types of exceptions 

So Nix from OFC playing in Australia is permitted by FIFA, so its a non argument... it is in fact a made up point for the convenience of arguing about it. 

People can argue about Nix in/out all they like - but don’t make stuff up: FIFA allow Nix to participate so there’s no argument there. 

Actually the Nix aren't permitted to play in the ACL if they've qualified for it. Do some research, like you seemingly not knowing Wales does indeed have its own national league pyramid, and that Swansea/Cardiff/Wrexham competing in England is generally not resented by fans of The New Saints, Caernarfon Town etc. I say 'seemingly' bc of how dodgy you've phrased it.

For someone whose first language(I'm assuming) is English you've a shonky command of it, to put it generously💡😂😂

All banter aside, the real question Waz is why do YOU so badly want the Nix to remain in the HAL for??

Falkland Islands not being assigned to Conmebol would hardly be surprising. There are a couple of countries on the South American mainland that are not members of Conmebol (They are CONCACAF members).  The "exceptions" you speak of are where certain countries are in different confederations to what you might expect based on geography, but I still don't know of any club in the world that plays across confederations apart from Wellington Phoenix. 

Ask FIFA, they do and they’re okay with it. 

Ask what of FIFA. They do what?
FIFA may be OK with WP playing in the A-League, but my question remains unanswered. 
Name any other team in the world that plays its club football across confederations.

There's none that plays it's main competition in another confederation. The Phoenix are unique. It's nice to be different.

If you say so.

I do.

Ryan and nomates have already answered that question in this thread. 

Places like New Caldedonia and Martinique play in the Coupe de France and can qualify for the Europa League.

Mexican clubs have played in the Copa Libertadores and as of next season Japanese clubs can qualify.

A reflection on their negligence/selective care-factor if anything💡

You still haven't answered the question of what's it to you exactly that the Nix remain in the HAL - you're not a Kiwi or even just from Wellington; what the fck do you care? Just stop being anal and own your sh1t already.

I know your question is directed to Waz, but for me (who is neither a Kiwi, or a Wellington supporter), I ask the question - "Why one would want to have them kicked out of the A-League??" The A-League is already too small with regards to the number of teams competing.  The A-league needs to add teams, not reduce them.

It isn't a case of Wellington is taking a spot from an Australian team, as there is room for more teams to be added to the league.  If you don't want foreign teams in the league fine, but it should be for "new" teams, teams yet to be given a licence, not a team who is already in the league.

The only way I feel Wellington should be "kicked out" of the league is via performance - i.e. if the drop out via relegation (if/when that might be a thing/option). That said, if/when that happens, they should also have the right to regain that spot back via performance - i.e. promotion (if/when that might be a thing/option).

We need to have 12 Australian teams to get 4 ACL spots.

They should be replaced. 

Expand to 14 teams. 

Problem solved.

If there is a team from NZ in the league there is no reason Singapore and KL can’t join.

Perhaps Sage will get his wish.

Anyone who supports WP in the league must be open to SEAsian expansion.

Not true but I can see Sage using that logic 

I’m not trying to be provocative. It’s just really simple - You either support having foreign clubs in the league or not.

Sounds like Super Rugby.  How exciting.... not!

lol. I’m actually opposed to Nix being in the HAL, I think their slot would be better used by an Aussie club.

I just can’t argue on a false premise. They are allowed to compete across Confederations so that argument is a mute point. 

Given the stance of the HAL owners there’s no chance Nix will get the boot now so I think we all have to live with that fact. But as as long as Nix’s presence does not:

1/ Slow down or prevent a football pyramid being established in Australia. 

2/ Prevent or delay the introduction of pro/rel to the HAL. 

3/ Get used as a pretext for SEA expansion 

4/ Prevent or delay the emergence of a pro league in NZ 

providing non of that happens I can live with them, it’s not the most pressing issue facing football. 

On thd the plus side, the Yellow Fever are most likeable active support in the competition.  Not all things are bad. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkland_Islands_official_football_team

According to this they can't ever join FIFA(or just CONMEBOL) due to the political issue, but surely they could join Oceania in an exclusive capacity ie. as non-FIFA members, such as Tuvalu already in the OFC?

The Falkland Islands isn't even a country, it's a British Overseas Territory.  We might as well discuss the merits of the Australian Antarctic Territory!  This is all irrelevant. 

Neither are Martinique, the US virgin Islands, Guam and the Cook Islands among others but they all have national teams and are members of FIFA.

But who cares?  What's that got to do with New Zealand?

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On that list, the Nix are the only club who plays in a country that is not part of their confederation.

That is true. But that wasn't the question.

Yes it was. Champagne Football posted the question "Can anyone name one other club in world football that doesn't play in their own country's federation?"

Sorry but you just proved BrisbaneBhoy's point. He asked about federations. Federation is national (FFA), confederation is the region (AFC). Some people seem to be using the terms interchangeably which looks to be a cause of confusion.