Youth development in Australia, where did it all go wrong?


Youth development in Australia, where did it all go wrong?

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AJF - 5 Sep 2019 1:04 PM
Decentric - 4 Sep 2019 11:26 PM

Can you explain how Brazil and Argentina have won so many WC's without a NC?

The FFA football educators who have educated you in your C Licence, have argued they do, within a context of playing Proactive football.
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the real answer or the start of the answer is 1973...



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Decentric - 6 Sep 2019 10:31 AM
City Sam - 5 Sep 2019 12:28 PM

Wrong.

There is nothing about producing robots.

You need to gain greater insight in order to pontificate.

The point you make about greater resources in these countries is true though. 

The only reason you say it is wrong is because you way too involved from the inside. There's a reason literally everyone from the outside including very well respected people in the game say the same thing. The systems in place don't conduce creative thinking and individuality, what makes it worse in Australia than other countries is that elsewhere these kids will play a lot more football outside the systems they have in place. They get the higher quality training aswell as getting a bit of individuality.

South Americans are so technically brilliant because they play on the street all day, they develop these technical skills and the sooner the NC realises we aren't the same as these countries and adapts we might actually start producing strikers again for example.
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AJF - 5 Sep 2019 11:41 AM
Decentric - 4 Sep 2019 11:26 PM

You do realize that the vast majority of players who played in the teams that have qualified were NSL products?

Do you also realise that neither Ange nor Arnie play the 433 depicted in the NC. Plus I would challenge anyone to describe Bert van Marwijk's tactics in the last WC as meeting the NC philosophy (below for those interested):

A proactive brand of football, based on effective possession with the cutting edge provided by creative individuals.
Defensively the key components are quick transition and intelligent collective pressing.
The Playing Style is underpinned by a strong ‘team mentality’, capitalising on Australia’s traditional strengths.




BVM played within the parameters of a 1-4-3-3.

Ange did mainly until he deployed that 3 at the back experimental formation and a flirtation with 4-4-2.

Arnie chops and changes his formations.

Unlike Holland's' KNVB, there is no edict for senior national Aussie teams to play a 1-4-3-3.  
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City Sam - 6 Sep 2019 10:37 AM
Decentric - 6 Sep 2019 10:31 AM

The only reason you say it is wrong is because you way too involved from the inside. There's a reason literally everyone from the outside including very well respected people in the game say the same thing. The systems in place don't conduce creative thinking and individuality, what makes it worse in Australia than other countries is that elsewhere these kids will play a lot more football outside the systems they have in place. They get the higher quality training aswell as getting a bit of individuality.

South Americans are so technically brilliant because they play on the street all day, they develop these technical skills and the sooner the NC realises we aren't the same as these countries and adapts we might actually start producing strikers again for example.

Agree with the second paragraph, but quote who with a depth of knowledge shuns the direction we've taken  using the specific football criteria they argue against in your answer. 
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Decentric - 6 Sep 2019 10:40 AM
City Sam - 6 Sep 2019 10:37 AM

Agree with the second paragraph, but quote who with a depth of knowledge shuns the direction we've taken  using the specific football criteria they argue against in your answer. 

Quite simple reason for all of this is we as a sport do not get the better kids from the beginning ,mostly due to the fact that Soccer is the fourth most popular sport in the country and also the cost to play the game are often 5 times more expensive than other sports.
I have spoken to parents of a player who has been selected for a PYL u13s side next year ,the costs $2300 rego plus compulsory attendance to clubs academy training $1750 ,total cost for one kid to play Soccer at PYL level $4050 ,oh and also there may be a end of season tour to the UK.
Maybe just maybe the best just can't afford to play?

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Decentric - 6 Sep 2019 10:33 AM
AJF - 5 Sep 2019 1:04 PM

The FFA football educators who have educated you in your C Licence, have argued they do, within a context of playing Proactive football.
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Decentric - 6 Sep 2019 10:40 AM
City Sam - 6 Sep 2019 10:37 AM

Agree with the second paragraph, but quote who with a depth of knowledge shuns the direction we've taken  using the specific football criteria they argue against in your answer. 

Oops....

Australia is producing 'robots', says youth guru Smith
BY DAVE LEWIS

AIS Youth coaching kingpin Ron Smith, the man who nurtured golden generation stars like Mark Viduka, Vince Grella, Craig Moore and Lucas Neill, has added fuel to the furnace of the Socceroos’ FIFA World Cup exit by claiming the country’s development systems produce “robots” high on energy but short of goalscoring technique.

With the recriminations over Australia’s impotence in the final third in Russia raging, the former chief of the now defunct Canberra-based AIS finishing school for budding Socceroos insists an "obsession" with producing players "who run about like lunatics" in adherence to a methodology put in place by Dutchman Han Berger during his five-year reign as the FFA’s technical director from 2009-2014 is partly to blame for what ails Australia.

Link to thread:
 https://forum.insidesport.com.au/2674250/Australia-is-producing-robots-says-AIS-youth-guru-Smith?PageIndex=1











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Decentric - 6 Sep 2019 10:38 AM
AJF - 5 Sep 2019 11:41 AM