Top all time runscorers in Test cricket


Top all time runscorers in Test cricket

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The is again similar  to  the bowling thread of all time wicket takers in Test cricket history.

Can someone post a table with the top 30 odd run scorers in Test cricket, please?

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Decentric - 15 Sep 2019 10:39 AM
The is again similar  to  the bowling thread of all time wicket takers in Test cricket history.

Can someone post a table with the top 30 odd run scorers in Test cricket, please?

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Most runs
PlayerSpanMatInnsNORunsHSAve100500
SR Tendulkar (INDIA)1989-20132003293315921248*53.78516814
RT Ponting (AUS)1995-2012168287291337825751.85416217
JH Kallis (ICC/SA)1995-2013166280401328922455.37455816
R Dravid (ICC/INDIA)1996-2012164286321328827052.3136638
AN Cook (ENG)2006-2018161291161247229445.3533579
KC Sangakkara (SL)2000-2015134233171240031957.40385211
BC Lara (ICC/WI)1990-2006131232611953400*52.88344817
S Chanderpaul (WI)1994-20151642804911867203*51.37306615
DPMD Jayawardene (SL)1997-2014149252151181437449.84345015
AR Border (AUS)1978-1994156265441117420550.56276311
SR Waugh (AUS)1985-2004168260461092720051.06325022
SM Gavaskar (INDIA)1971-19871252141610122236*51.12344512
Younis Khan (PAK)2000-2017118213191009931352.05343319
HM Amla (SA)2004-2019124215169282311*46.64284113
GC Smith (ICC/SA)2002-201411720513926527748.25273811
GA Gooch (ENG)1975-19951182156890033342.58204613
Javed Miandad (PAK)1976-1993124189218832280*52.5723436
Inzamam-ul-Haq (ICC/PAK)1992-200712020022883032949.60254615
VVS Laxman (INDIA)1996-201213422534878128145.97175614
AB de Villiers (SA)2004-2018114191188765278*50.6622468
MJ Clarke (AUS)2004-2015115198228643329*49.1028279
ML Hayden (AUS)1994-200910318414862538050.73302914
V Sehwag (ICC/INDIA)2001-20131041806858631949.34233216
IVA Richards (WI)1974-199112118212854029150.23244510
AJ Stewart (ENG)1990-200313323521846319039.54154514
DI Gower (ENG)1978-199211720418823121544.2518397
KP Pietersen (ENG)2005-20141041818818122747.28233510
G Boycott (ENG)1964-1982108193238114246*47.72224210
GS Sobers (WI)1954-197493160218032365*57.78263012
ME Waugh (AUS)1991-2002128209178029153*41.81204719
MA Atherton (ENG)1989-200111521277728185*37.69164620
IR Bell (ENG)2004-201511820524772723542.69224614
JL Langer (AUS)1993-200710518212769625045.27233011
MC Cowdrey (ENG)1954-197511418815762418244.0622389
CG Greenidge (WI)1974-199110818516755822644.72193411
Mohammad Yousuf (PAK)1998-20109015612753022352.29243311
MA Taylor (AUS)1989-1999104186137525334*43.4919405
CH Lloyd (WI)1966-1985110175147515242*46.6719394
DL Haynes (WI)1978-199411620225748718442.29183910
DC Boon (AUS)1984-199610719020742220043.65213216
G Kirsten (SA)1993-200410117615728927545.27213413
WR Hammond (ENG)1927-194785140167249336*58.4522244
CH Gayle (WI)2000-201410318211721433342.18153715
SC Ganguly (INDIA)1996-200811318817721223942.17163513
SP Fleming (NZ)1994-2008111189107172274*40.0694616
GS Chappell (AUS)1970-198487151197110247*53.86243112
JE Root (ENG)2012-20198615912704325447.9116458
AJ Strauss (ENG)2004-20121001786703717740.91212715
DG Bradman (AUS)1928-1948528010699633499.9429137
SPD Smith (AUS)2010-20196812416697323964.5626274
ST Jayasuriya (SL)1991-200711018814697334040.07143115
L Hutton (ENG)1937-19557913815697136456.6719335
DB Vengsarkar (INDIA)1976-199211618522686816642.13173515
LRPL Taylor (NZ)2007-20199416619683929046.52183114
KF Barrington (ENG)1955-19688213115680625658.6720355
V Kohli (INDIA)2011-2019791358674924353.1425229
GP Thorpe (ENG)1993-2005100179286744200*44.66163912
DA Warner (AUS)2011-2019791475645825345.4721309
BB McCullum (NZ)2004-20161011769645330238.64123114
PA de Silva (SL)1984-20029315911636126742.9720227
MEK Hussey (AUS)2005-20137913716623519551.52192912
RB Kanhai (WI)1957-1974791376622725647.5315287
M Azharuddin (INDIA)1984-2000991479621519945.0322215
HH Gibbs (SA)1996-2008901547616722841.95142611
KS Williamson (NZ)2010-201974130126163242*52.2220308
RN Harvey (AUS)1948-19637913710614920548.4121247
GR Viswanath (INDIA)1969-19839115510608022241.93143510
RB Richardson (WI)1983-19958614612594919444.3916278
RR Sarwan (WI)2000-2011871548584229140.01153112
ME Trescothick (ENG)2000-20067614310582521943.79142912
DCS Compton (ENG)1937-19577813115580727850.06172810
Saleem Malik (PAK)1982-199910315422576823743.69152912
N Hussain (ENG)1990-20049617116576420737.18143314
CL Hooper (WI)1987-200210217315576223336.46132713
MP Vaughan (ENG)1999-2008821479571919741.4418189
Azhar Ali (PAK)2010-20197313985669302*43.27153113
AD Mathews (SL)2009-20198214821564116044.419342
AC Gilchrist (AUS)1999-200896137205570204*47.60172614
MV Boucher (ICC/SA)1997-201214720624551512530.3053517
MS Atapattu (SL)1990-20079015615550224939.02161722
TM Dilshan (SL)1999-20138714511549219340.98162314
CA Pujara (INDIA)2010-20197011885486206*49.8718206
TT Samaraweera (SL)2001-20138113220546223148.76143011
MD Crowe (NZ)1982-19957713111544429945.3617189
JB Hobbs (ENG)1908-1930611027541021156.9415284
KD Walters (AUS)1965-19817412514535725048.2615334
IM Chappell (AUS)1964-19807513610534519642.42142611
JG Wright (NZ)1978-1993821487533418537.8212237
MJ Slater (AUS)1993-2001741317531221942.8314219
N Kapil Dev (INDIA)1978-199413118415524816331.0582716
WM Lawry (AUS)1961-19716712312523421047.1513276
Misbah-ul-Haq (PAK)2001-201775132205222161*46.6210399
IT Botham (ENG)1977-19921021616520020833.54142214
JH Edrich (ENG)1963-19767712795138310*43.5412246
A Ranatunga (SL)1982-200093155125105135*35.6943812
Zaheer Abbas (PAK)1969-19857812411506227444.79122010


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Unlike the bowling list, most of these guys are retired. You have to get down to Root to find a current player - unless you think Ian Bell will ever get a recall. But the run fests of the 2000's combined with more test matches in that era figure prominently. 

With Cook's somewhat premature retirement, Root is in the best position to run down Tendulkar - given he is only 28, and England will play more tests than India for Kohli, or Aus for Smith. But the latter two have hit 30 already.

The current crop of feeble English batting should give Root the opportunity for 2 innings a game more often than not too.
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Paddles - 18 Sep 2019 11:12 AM
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Most runs
PlayerSpanMatInnsNORunsHSAve100500
SR Tendulkar (INDIA)1989-20132003293315921248*53.78516814
RT Ponting (AUS)1995-2012168287291337825751.85416217
JH Kallis (ICC/SA)1995-2013166280401328922455.37455816
R Dravid (ICC/INDIA)1996-2012164286321328827052.3136638
AN Cook (ENG)2006-2018161291161247229445.3533579
KC Sangakkara (SL)2000-2015134233171240031957.40385211
BC Lara (ICC/WI)1990-2006131232611953400*52.88344817
S Chanderpaul (WI)1994-20151642804911867203*51.37306615
DPMD Jayawardene (SL)1997-2014149252151181437449.84345015
AR Border (AUS)1978-1994156265441117420550.56276311
SR Waugh (AUS)1985-2004168260461092720051.06325022
SM Gavaskar (INDIA)1971-19871252141610122236*51.12344512
Younis Khan (PAK)2000-2017118213191009931352.05343319
HM Amla (SA)2004-2019124215169282311*46.64284113
GC Smith (ICC/SA)2002-201411720513926527748.25273811
GA Gooch (ENG)1975-19951182156890033342.58204613
Javed Miandad (PAK)1976-1993124189218832280*52.5723436
Inzamam-ul-Haq (ICC/PAK)1992-200712020022883032949.60254615
VVS Laxman (INDIA)1996-201213422534878128145.97175614
AB de Villiers (SA)2004-2018114191188765278*50.6622468
MJ Clarke (AUS)2004-2015115198228643329*49.1028279
ML Hayden (AUS)1994-200910318414862538050.73302914
V Sehwag (ICC/INDIA)2001-20131041806858631949.34233216
IVA Richards (WI)1974-199112118212854029150.23244510
AJ Stewart (ENG)1990-200313323521846319039.54154514
DI Gower (ENG)1978-199211720418823121544.2518397
KP Pietersen (ENG)2005-20141041818818122747.28233510
G Boycott (ENG)1964-1982108193238114246*47.72224210
GS Sobers (WI)1954-197493160218032365*57.78263012
ME Waugh (AUS)1991-2002128209178029153*41.81204719
MA Atherton (ENG)1989-200111521277728185*37.69164620
IR Bell (ENG)2004-201511820524772723542.69224614
JL Langer (AUS)1993-200710518212769625045.27233011
MC Cowdrey (ENG)1954-197511418815762418244.0622389
CG Greenidge (WI)1974-199110818516755822644.72193411
Mohammad Yousuf (PAK)1998-20109015612753022352.29243311
MA Taylor (AUS)1989-1999104186137525334*43.4919405
CH Lloyd (WI)1966-1985110175147515242*46.6719394
DL Haynes (WI)1978-199411620225748718442.29183910
DC Boon (AUS)1984-199610719020742220043.65213216
G Kirsten (SA)1993-200410117615728927545.27213413
WR Hammond (ENG)1927-194785140167249336*58.4522244
CH Gayle (WI)2000-201410318211721433342.18153715
SC Ganguly (INDIA)1996-200811318817721223942.17163513
SP Fleming (NZ)1994-2008111189107172274*40.0694616
GS Chappell (AUS)1970-198487151197110247*53.86243112
JE Root (ENG)2012-20198615912704325447.9116458
AJ Strauss (ENG)2004-20121001786703717740.91212715
DG Bradman (AUS)1928-1948528010699633499.9429137
SPD Smith (AUS)2010-20196812416697323964.5626274
ST Jayasuriya (SL)1991-200711018814697334040.07143115
L Hutton (ENG)1937-19557913815697136456.6719335
DB Vengsarkar (INDIA)1976-199211618522686816642.13173515
LRPL Taylor (NZ)2007-20199416619683929046.52183114
KF Barrington (ENG)1955-19688213115680625658.6720355
V Kohli (INDIA)2011-2019791358674924353.1425229
GP Thorpe (ENG)1993-2005100179286744200*44.66163912
DA Warner (AUS)2011-2019791475645825345.4721309
BB McCullum (NZ)2004-20161011769645330238.64123114
PA de Silva (SL)1984-20029315911636126742.9720227
MEK Hussey (AUS)2005-20137913716623519551.52192912
RB Kanhai (WI)1957-1974791376622725647.5315287
M Azharuddin (INDIA)1984-2000991479621519945.0322215
HH Gibbs (SA)1996-2008901547616722841.95142611
KS Williamson (NZ)2010-201974130126163242*52.2220308
RN Harvey (AUS)1948-19637913710614920548.4121247
GR Viswanath (INDIA)1969-19839115510608022241.93143510
RB Richardson (WI)1983-19958614612594919444.3916278
RR Sarwan (WI)2000-2011871548584229140.01153112
ME Trescothick (ENG)2000-20067614310582521943.79142912
DCS Compton (ENG)1937-19577813115580727850.06172810
Saleem Malik (PAK)1982-199910315422576823743.69152912
N Hussain (ENG)1990-20049617116576420737.18143314
CL Hooper (WI)1987-200210217315576223336.46132713
MP Vaughan (ENG)1999-2008821479571919741.4418189
Azhar Ali (PAK)2010-20197313985669302*43.27153113
AD Mathews (SL)2009-20198214821564116044.419342
AC Gilchrist (AUS)1999-200896137205570204*47.60172614
MV Boucher (ICC/SA)1997-201214720624551512530.3053517
MS Atapattu (SL)1990-20079015615550224939.02161722
TM Dilshan (SL)1999-20138714511549219340.98162314
CA Pujara (INDIA)2010-20197011885486206*49.8718206
TT Samaraweera (SL)2001-20138113220546223148.76143011
MD Crowe (NZ)1982-19957713111544429945.3617189
JB Hobbs (ENG)1908-1930611027541021156.9415284
KD Walters (AUS)1965-19817412514535725048.2615334
IM Chappell (AUS)1964-19807513610534519642.42142611
JG Wright (NZ)1978-1993821487533418537.8212237
MJ Slater (AUS)1993-2001741317531221942.8314219
N Kapil Dev (INDIA)1978-199413118415524816331.0582716
WM Lawry (AUS)1961-19716712312523421047.1513276
Misbah-ul-Haq (PAK)2001-201775132205222161*46.6210399
IT Botham (ENG)1977-19921021616520020833.54142214
JH Edrich (ENG)1963-19767712795138310*43.5412246
A Ranatunga (SL)1982-200093155125105135*35.6943812
Zaheer Abbas (PAK)1969-19857812411506227444.79122010


Smith has to have 10,000 runs covered by his 100th test. Question is will still be around to take down Ponting's 13,378.
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It is a bit of a shame these batting lists don't have strike rates.

The bowlers' list did.

To compare Kallis and Ponting, I'd surmise Ponting scored  his runs more quickly, but he may have been advantaged playing on Aussie pitches.
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Decentric - 19 Sep 2019 9:38 PM
It is a bit of a shame these batting lists don't have strike rates.

The bowlers' list did.

To compare Kallis and Ponting, I'd surmise Ponting scored  his runs more quickly, but he may have been advantaged playing on Aussie pitches.

I cant get you the list with SR if you want. But Ponting drove on the up, and pulled anything he wanted. Kallis was dour. One of the most dour ever.  Ponting will be Kallis on SR. Its 58 to 45 - I confirmed already.
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With batters scoring 7500 to 8500 runs, Mike Atherton and Alex Stewart are the only batters  with averages below 40.

This applies to about 20 odd batters below them in Test rankings and all batters ranked above.
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Decentric - 19 Sep 2019 9:42 PM
With batters scoring 7500 to 8500 runs, Mike Atherton and Alex Stewart are the only batters  with averages below 40.

This applies to about 20 odd batters below them in Test rankings and all batters ranked above.

England plays the most tests. Then the rest of the rich 3 and  SL... its gonna happen...
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Paddles - 19 Sep 2019 9:42 PM
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I cant get you the list with SR if you want. But Ponting drove on the up, and pulled anything he wanted. Kallis was dour. One of the most dour ever.  Ponting will be Kallis on SR. Its 58 to 45 - I confirmed already.

Even though Ponting is a favourite son in Tassie, but definitely not mine, as he chose to leave the state early in his career, I thought with DRS he would have been out a lot more than he was early on his innings. I thought he received a lot of favourable LBW decisions early on in his innings, particularly at home in Aus.

Of course he was a terrific batter when he got his eye in though, but he was a  shaky starter. Another poster  suggested  that his batting average dropped markedly in his last few years, whereas Kallis' didn't.
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Paddles - 19 Sep 2019 9:44 PM
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England plays the most tests. Then the rest of the rich 3 and  SL... its gonna happen...

I was looking at that.

I think they average close to 12 Tests per year!
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Decentric - 19 Sep 2019 9:50 PM
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Even though Ponting is a favourite son in Tassie, but definitely not mine, as he chose to leave the state early in his career, I thought with DRS he would have been out a lot more than he was early on his innings. I thought he received a lot of favourable LBW decisions early on in his innings, particularly at home in Aus.

Of course he was a terrific batter when he got his eye in though, but he was a  shaky starter. Another poster  suggested  that his batting average dropped markedly in his last few years, whereas Kallis' didn't.

Ponting's did - once Aus became less of a force from 2007 retirements -  he did also. Kallis retired prematurely on the flip side, he basically had one bad home season and said - Im playing t20 guys - cya. The money gulf between the rich 3 and everyone else is huge. There is no financial motivation to play intl cricket if you are a star and not playing for In, Eng or Aus when you can play t20 instead....

Money comes into it. Rich 3 countries can keep their players longer.... 
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I'm surprised that three batsmen, Tendulkar (51), Kallis (45), and Ponting (41), have all scored  over 40 centuries each?

One of them, Tendulkar, scored  over 50 test centuries! 
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Kane Williamson has a big average  of 52, but has only scored 20 centuries after about 74 tests.

 I  reckoned he would've scored more tons at his stage of his career with that big average.
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Keyboard Warrior - 19 Sep 2019 10:14 PM
I'm surprised that three batsmen, Tendulkar (51), Kallis (45), and Ponting (41), have all scored  over 40 centuries each?

One of them, Tendulkar, scored  over 50 test centuries! 

VVS Laxman had a pretty poor conversion rate. 56 fifties and only 17 tons. What was his story? According to wikipedia, he got stuck with tail-enders a lot....
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Keyboard Warrior - 19 Sep 2019 10:20 PM
Kane Williamson has a big average  of 52, but has only scored 20 centuries after about 74 tests.

 I  reckoned he would've scored more tons at his stage of his career with that big average.

He has been playing since 2010. He started very young. NZ dont play many tests. And he has not missed one - first time he was going to - the match was called off due tot hat shooting in the same city....

KW is undeniably the best thing to happen to NZ cricket since Hadlee, if not ever...

What I find funnier is his 4's (666) to 6's (14) ratio....
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When Indian fans start a thread about Smith vs Kohli:

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Was there a better player of pace around when Ponting was at his best? 

Though if it wasn't obvious earlier, his decline seemed obvious when the Windies toured in 2010? and Kemar Roach worked him over good (somehow always seemed a very under rated bowler). It was sad to see his refusal not to go after the pull/hook, despite no longer being good enough. As well as a front pad problem that got worse. An Aussie great, that played on for a couple of years to long.
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flyslip - 21 Sep 2019 9:26 PM
Was there a better player of pace around when Ponting was at his best? 

Though if it wasn't obvious earlier, his decline seemed obvious when the Windies toured in 2010? and Kemar Roach worked him over good (somehow always seemed a very under rated bowler). It was sad to see his refusal not to go after the pull/hook, despite no longer being good enough. As well as a front pad problem that got worse. An Aussie great, that played on for a couple of years to long.

Ponting, Kallis, Sachin and Lara had no issues with pace really. Dravid was dour. Personally, I used to love Sanga bat the most of all who got some shocking umpiring decisions regularly... YK is the one everyone forgets about. He was ungainly, but effective, and possibly the best under pressure in a 4th, even better than Lara.
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Paddles - 21 Sep 2019 9:54 PM
flyslip - 21 Sep 2019 9:26 PM

Ponting, Kallis, Sachin and Lara had no issues with pace really. Dravid was dour. Personally, I used to love Sanga bat the most of all who got some shocking umpiring decisions regularly... YK is the one everyone forgets about. He was ungainly, but effective, and possibly the best under pressure in a 4th, even better than Lara.

Inviting discussion again Paddles lol?

I don't disagree, yet there was something almost majestic about Ponting to fast bowling, in the right fast bouncy (generally Aussie) conditions.

Kemar seems to have little problem with bigging himself up, more than a little truth to it though. He did retire Ponting hurt (first time in his career?). He came in at no 9 next day and got a few (awful lot of top edges though lol) to be eventually out fending an absolute beauty to short leg. Fast bowlers  seemed to lose fear of him after that. Seemed almost a walking wicket at times via the pull/hook shot. It was quite a decline.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/australia/west-indies-firebrand-kemar-roach-says-started-ricky-pontings-long-spiral-towards-test-retirement/news-story/3c9c042e582d95caa287545da039d3b0?sv=15cba288f5866bc78222735dc474d1a3

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flyslip - 21 Sep 2019 10:29 PM
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Inviting discussion again Paddles lol?

I don't disagree, yet there was something almost majestic about Ponting to fast bowling, in the right fast bouncy (generally Aussie) conditions.

Kemar seems to have little problem with bigging himself up, more than a little truth to it though. He did retire Ponting hurt (first time in his career?). He came in at no 9 next day and got a few (awful lot of top edges though lol) to be eventually out fending an absolute beauty to short leg. Fast bowlers  seemed to lose fear of him after that. Seemed almost a walking wicket at times via the pull/hook shot. It was quite a decline.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/australia/west-indies-firebrand-kemar-roach-says-started-ricky-pontings-long-spiral-towards-test-retirement/news-story/3c9c042e582d95caa287545da039d3b0?sv=15cba288f5866bc78222735dc474d1a3

No, not inviting convo, Kemar is still playing. Him and and Holder are both in the top 10 bowlers. And I am stilll not calling the WI attack world class yes neither.... Let alone Aus... But if I were to you directly, it was Kallis that ended Ponting's career... and you can youtube it... but you know so much already... so you should know this....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f97jPHb53XA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUFWL_wWd0w

Then and there - Ricky knew he was cooked. It's pretty much common knowledge among real cricket fans...
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Paddles - 22 Sep 2019 12:33 AM
flyslip - 21 Sep 2019 10:29 PM

No, not inviting convo, Kemar is still playing. Him and and Holder are both in the top 10 bowlers. And I am stilll not calling the WI attack world class yes neither.... Let alone Aus... But if I were to you directly, it was Kallis that ended Ponting's career... and you can youtube it... but you know so much already... so you should know this....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f97jPHb53XA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUFWL_wWd0w

Then and there - Ricky knew he was cooked. It's pretty much common knowledge among real cricket fans...

Come on Paddles, I never really claimed any of those things. Only that Kemar towelling him up made it obvious he was in decline. Fast bowlers were lining up for him after that.

I don't know how you deduced any of that, from what I said? Not calling the Windies a world class attack? Good for you but who cares and how is it relevant to anything I posted here lol?

He was "gone to Gowings" long before Kallis made him look silly. That was simply the point where he could no longer avoid what had been obvious for several years. Either that, or it was the point where the selectors had a little chat, depending what you wish to believe.
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flyslip - 22 Sep 2019 1:39 AM
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Come on Paddles, I never really claimed any of those things. Only that Kemar towelling him up made it obvious he was in decline. Fast bowlers were lining up for him after that.

I don't know how you deduced any of that, from what I said? Not calling the Windies a world class attack? Good for you but who cares and how is it relevant to anything I posted here lol?

He was "gone to Gowings" long before Kallis made him look silly. That was simply the point where he could no longer avoid what had been obvious for several years. Either that, or it was the point where the selectors had a little chat, depending what you wish to believe.

I dont call the Windies attack world class, and just like NZ, which I dont call world class neither, they have TWO bowlers in the top 10 whereas your World class Australian attack has ONE. Clearly a problem with the stats there.

We all know (real cricket fans) when the INdian attack announced themselves, but this Aus attack when exactly did they do it again? Losing in SA? Was that when? (We all know what happened there). Losing at home to SA? Losing in UAE perhaps? Losing to SL away? Losing to India at home? When was it again? I'm confused. And biased. And antipathetic. And illogical. And every other name you called me to explain why your Aus team is 5th with the worlds best batsman....

You drew a series with no Cook, and no Anderson in England you think your bowlers are world class... Stokes doesn't even average 36 and he pummeled you all series.... and I'm bias and illogical.... Yeah okay... Maybe the Aus attack could be world class if they had Broad :).... (that's sarcasm in case you didn't realise)...

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