Aus v NZ 2nd Test


Aus v NZ 2nd Test

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I’ve missed a few hours play, but Aus seems to be keeping the ball at a fuller length than NZ, as Cummins induces an outside from Latham to Paine. 

NZ now 7-112 with Southee in and facing a 140kph short pitched Cummins thunderbolt. 
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grazorblade - 28 Dec 2019 12:39 PM
pretty dominant session really. Somehow pattinson and cummins have to play, I don't know who makes room but they both are capable of averaging in the very low 20s!

It is tough who to leave out when all four are fit including Hazlewood. 
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pretty dominant session really. Somehow pattinson and cummins have to play, I don't know who makes room but they both are capable of averaging in the very low 20s!
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Decentric - 28 Dec 2019 10:43 AM
Cummins strikes! 

Taylor caught in slips by Burns for 4. 

3-46 after a well pitched up ball outside edge. 

That nick whizzed to Labs.. he looked far too close to me. Lucky with the parry to Burns.
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Patto with a snorter to Watling. Kiwis in disarray
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Decentric - 28 Dec 2019 10:48 AM
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Has he struggled prior , or been unlucky? 

his first over was the 8-9m back of a length region going a bit over the stumps but he has gradually adusted his length to fuller

there is a bit of variable bounce in a pitch around the 4-6 m mark I'm guessing
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spot on with the length for the hat-trick ball


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grazorblade - 28 Dec 2019 10:47 AM
slightly fuller than the usual good length is so deadly on this pitch. Cummins has really adjusted

2 in 2 balls

Has he struggled prior , or been unlucky? 
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baggygreenmania - 28 Dec 2019 10:38 AM
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Cummins looking good already. Beautiful inswinger just going over. I rate Latham.. he may be the fly in the oitment for the Baggy Greens.. not Taylor. Latham is in the mould of Edgar of SA or Burns of England.. good grafters.

Yes Cummins!!! Two in two.  Kiwis in the poo well and truly.
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Cummins 3-9. 

NZ 4-46. 
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slightly fuller than the usual good length is so deadly on this pitch. Cummins has really adjusted

2 in 2 balls
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Nicholls LBW Cummins to a pitched up next ball! 

Very close decision. 

Hat trick ball  next. 
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Decentric - 28 Dec 2019 10:41 AM
Interesting Patto has opened. 

Good over! 

His shield form over a sustained period of time is mcgrath like. I wonder what he could have been. Not too late to have a decent test career though
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Cummins strikes! 

Taylor caught in slips by Burns for 4. 

3-46 after a well pitched up ball outside edge. 
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Interesting Patto has opened. 

Good over! 
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Decentric - 28 Dec 2019 10:16 AM
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De Grandhomme and Sayers are effective at only 120kph. 

De grandhomme is elite with accuracy and movement. Not sure if Wade can do that. Symmonds was surprisingly good though so you never know
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baggygreenmania - 28 Dec 2019 10:31 AM
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Good bowlers will work on any weakness their opponent has. That is why only those with the soundest of techniques prosper as long term Test cricketers.Unless of course you are either Don Bradman or Steven Smith.. these two are freaks.

Cummins looking good already. Beautiful inswinger just going over. I rate Latham.. he may be the fly in the oitment for the Baggy Greens.. not Taylor. Latham is in the mould of Edgar of SA or Burns of England.. good grafters.
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Paddles - 28 Dec 2019 10:22 AM
Dec, Paine didn't get the Wagner short stuff. He got the Southee dross. Wagner was bowling when Paine came to the crease. He bowled 4.2 overs more and gave Paine around 8 runs of his 17. Paine was on 63 runs when Wagner came back. All up Paine took Wagner for about 11 runs in that innings.

Paine attacked and went after Santner. Smashed him. And he found it pretty easy to score regularly and easily off Southee.

Thanks. 
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Decentric - 28 Dec 2019 10:14 AM
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Thanks. 

I’m going to refer to this analysis next time I watch him bat. 

I just wonder if he is another batter who will just get the job done in Aus, but fail away? 

Hopefully, he rectifies this weakness. 

Good bowlers will work on any weakness their opponent has. That is why only those with the soundest of techniques prosper as long term Test cricketers.Unless of course you are either Don Bradman or Steven Smith.. these two are freaks.
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Dec, Paine didn't get the Wagner short stuff. He got the Southee dross. Wagner was bowling when Paine came to the crease. He bowled 4.2 overs more and gave Paine around 8 runs of his 17. Paine was on 63 runs when Wagner came back. All up Paine took Wagner for about 11 runs in that innings.

Paine attacked and went after Santner. Smashed him. And he found it pretty easy to score regularly and easily off Southee.
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Decentric - 28 Dec 2019 10:14 AM
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Thanks. 

I’m going to refer to this analysis next time I watch him bat. 

I just wonder if he is another batter who will just get the job done in Aus, but fail away? 

Hopefully, he rectifies this weakness. 

Michael Vaughan also said Wade’s head  falls too far over to off when he plays vertical shots. 
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Decentric - 28 Dec 2019 10:11 AM
Given Wade can bowl at 128 kph, is there any chance he can improve as a bowler at age 32? 



De Grandhomme and Sayers are effective at only 120kph. 
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baggygreenmania - 28 Dec 2019 10:10 AM
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Yeh prob more concentration with Tim.

Head plays too far away from his body. You watch the real quality batsmen. They play the ball under their nose in attack and defense.. mostly defense. Head reaches for the ball.. so his head is never over the ball at point of contact which means he is not in total control of the shot.

Thanks. 

I’m going to refer to this analysis next time I watch him bat. 

I just wonder if he is another batter who will just get the job done in Aus, but fail away? 

Hopefully, he rectifies this weakness. 
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Given Wade can bowl at 128 kph, is there any chance he can improve as a bowler at age 32? 



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Decentric - 28 Dec 2019 10:04 AM
baggygreenmania - 28 Dec 2019 10:00 AM

Interesting summation, Baggers. 

Other Test cricketers think Paine has good technique, but poor concentration. 

Where do you think Head is dodgy? 

Yeh prob more concentration with Tim.

Head plays too far away from his body. You watch the real quality batsmen. They play the ball under their nose in attack and defense.. mostly defense. Head reaches for the ball.. so his head is never over the ball at point of contact which means he is not in total control of the shot.
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Another test today will be Australia only having four bowlers if the pitch flattens out. 

An injury to a pace bowler means trouble. 

CDG is a very decent 5th bowler for the Kiwis. 
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Decentric - 28 Dec 2019 10:01 AM
The last post is probably more applicable to the return of Warner and Smith. 

At at least one has always been in from, plus the emergence of Labu. 

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I suppose I saw Boult bowl some good balls close to taking wickets, but I missed a lot of play. 

The TCA folks say hello, Baggers! 
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baggygreenmania - 28 Dec 2019 10:03 AM
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Dunno DC.. prob not.. Just a matter of going thru the archives. I am betting those embarrassing collapses under Smith have been far less under Paine. There was however a silver lining to those collapso days.. it established Smith as the batsmen he has become. How often did he carry us in those days.

Too often! 
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baggygreenmania - 28 Dec 2019 10:00 AM
grazorblade - 28 Dec 2019 9:45 AM

Boult was the worst I have seen him bowl. Clearly under done for this match. It was he that got Head going with a succession of flashing square cuts off very wide deliveries. The Kiwis quicks sure missed a trick not bowling in the correct areas against he and Paine.. neither have a sound technique.

Interesting summation, Baggers. 

Other Test cricketers think Paine has good technique, but poor concentration. 

Where do you think Head is dodgy? 
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