'Complete disaster': Muscat in Belgian relegation danger [Comments]


'Complete disaster': Muscat in Belgian relegation danger [Comments]

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Not surprised at all.

Such an overrated manager it’s not even funny.
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sub007 - 18 Oct 2020 5:05 PM
Not surprised at all.

Such an overrated manager it’s not even funny.

Who's laughing? Better yet who pissed in your sandwich this morning?
I was hoping he would do well and lead to more Aussie kids getting a go overseas. Can't imagine going from Australia to Belgium during a pandemic is an absolute cake walk for anyone.


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sub007 - 18 Oct 2020 5:05 PM
Not surprised at all.

Such an overrated manager it’s not even funny.

Great way to support Australian managers in the tough market in Europe...
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Barca4Life - 18 Oct 2020 5:37 PM
sub007 - 18 Oct 2020 5:05 PM

Great way to support Australian managers in the tough market in Europe...

If he wasn’t the dirtiest player of all time, he would get my support.
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sub007 - 18 Oct 2020 5:38 PM
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If he wasn’t the dirtiest player of all time, he would get my support.

It doesnt matter now, he's a lone wolf where Australian managers would never get a chance like this.
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Plenty of time to turn it around. Not panic stations yet by any means.
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sub007 - 18 Oct 2020 5:38 PM
Barca4Life - 18 Oct 2020 5:37 PM

If he wasn’t the dirtiest player of all time, he would get my support.

If he never played for Victory and was only known in Australia for his career in England and service for the Socceroos I am certain that almost no Australian football fans would share this view.
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sub007 - 18 Oct 2020 5:38 PM
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If he wasn’t the dirtiest player of all time, he would get my support.

Lol . His playing career has nothing to do with his coaching career. Also I think he will survive the chop.  Iirc the club head hunted him and will give him time. They aren't one of the big clubs in Belgium 
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Good. Hope they sack this absolute piece of shit. Dirty c*nt of a human.
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paladisious - 18 Oct 2020 6:06 PM
sub007 - 18 Oct 2020 5:38 PM

If he never played for Victory and was only known in Australia for his career in England and service for the Socceroos I am certain that almost no Australian football fans would share this view.

His reputation is well known worldwide so I doubt it.
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 18 Oct 2020 6:50 PM
sub007 - 18 Oct 2020 5:38 PM

Lol . His playing career has nothing to do with his coaching career. Also I think he will survive the chop.  Iirc the club head hunted him and will give him time. They aren't one of the big clubs in Belgium 

Leopards don’t change their spots.
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Dan_The_Red - 18 Oct 2020 7:40 PM
Good. Hope they sack this absolute piece of shit. Dirty c*nt of a human.



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When he was appointed, I thought he’d be done within 18 months and now he may not even last 12.

He’s finally been exposed for the fraud that he is.
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sub007 - 18 Oct 2020 7:48 PM
When he was appointed, I thought he’d be done within 18 months and now he may not even last 12.

He’s finally been exposed for the fraud that he is.

😅😂😂😂 comeon b. He was head hunted and will give him time .me thinks you're just salty 
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paladisious - 18 Oct 2020 6:06 PM
sub007 - 18 Oct 2020 5:38 PM

If he never played for Victory and was only known in Australia for his career in England and service for the Socceroos I am certain that almost no Australian football fans would share this view.

Wait till the kiddies hear he also played for South Melbourne... :)
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Honestly way to show your support for a Aussie manager in a decent league. 

No wonder why Football is going no where got fans slagging of our own left right and center 

these Kangaroos can play football - 
Ange P. (Intercontinental WC Play-offs 2017) 

KEEP POLITICS OUT OF FOOTBALL

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sub007 - 18 Oct 2020 7:46 PM
paladisious - 18 Oct 2020 6:06 PM

His reputation is well known worldwide so I doubt it.

There was some listicle from a Spanish site from 15 years ago that used to be reposted until it 404'd, what else you got?

You can't concede that his time with the Victory has shaped your views on him even a little?

Let me put it this way: were you booing him when he scored his penalty for the Socceroos in the 2002 World Cup qualifier playoffs against Uruguay at the MCG before he came to Victory?

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sub007 - 18 Oct 2020 7:48 PM
When he was appointed, I thought he’d be done within 18 months and now he may not even last 12.

He’s finally been exposed for the fraud that he is.

lol you wish. The club are so confident in him they even kept his seat warm for 12 months with a subordinate while he got his European tickets, where else has that happened lately in the European professional game?
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I’m not the biggest Muscat fan but am wishing him as much success as possible with this gig as he is effectively representing Australia’s coaching ability right now. Don’t really care about his playing history in this scenario. 
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Think as a player Muscat had ‘white line fever’ on the pitch. As some of you guys mentioned earlier he is 1 of the very few Aussie coaches in Europe and if he sticks around he can open up doors for Aussie players to play there. Dirty player at times for sure- but pretty good coach by Australian standards at least
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Bowden - 18 Oct 2020 10:59 PM
I’m not the biggest Muscat fan but am wishing him as much success as possible with this gig as he is effectively representing Australia’s coaching ability right now. Don’t really care about his playing history in this scenario. 

No no no, you're doing it wrong. Opening a pathway for Australian coaching talent in Europe and providing a key opportunity to grow the strength of our game as a whole isn't important, a 144p youtube video of a late tackle from nine years ago against some NPL player is much more important BECAUSE HE USED TO PLAY FOR A TEAM I DON'T LIKE.
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paladisious - 18 Oct 2020 10:53 PM
sub007 - 18 Oct 2020 7:46 PM

There was some listicle from a Spanish site from 15 years ago that used to be reposted until it 404'd, what else you got?

You can't concede that his time with the Victory hasn't shaped your views even a little?

Let me put it this way: were you booing him when he scored his penalty for the Socceroos in the 2002 World Cup qualifier playoffs against Uruguay at the MCG before he came to Victory?

The question is should he have even played in that game or should he have received a red card in the game against France about a week earlier.
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patjennings - 18 Oct 2020 11:12 PM
paladisious - 18 Oct 2020 10:53 PM

The question is should he have even played in that game or should he have received a red card in the game against France about a week earlier.

So, you booed?
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paladisious - 18 Oct 2020 10:56 PM
sub007 - 18 Oct 2020 7:48 PM
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sub007 - 18 Oct 2020 7:46 PM

There was some listicle from a Spanish site from 15 years ago that used to be reposted until it 404'd, what else you got?

You can't concede that his time with the Victory has shaped your views on him even a little?

Let me put it this way: were you booing him when he scored his penalty for the Socceroos in the 2002 World Cup qualifier playoffs against Uruguay at the MCG before he came to Victory?

I was two years old at the time so obviously not.
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Balin Trev - 18 Oct 2020 11:03 PM
Think as a player Muscat had ‘white line fever’ on the pitch. As some of you guys mentioned earlier he is 1 of the very few Aussie coaches in Europe and if he sticks around he can open up doors for Aussie players to play there. Dirty player at times for sure- but pretty good coach by Australian standards at least

Debatable.
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paladisious - 18 Oct 2020 11:14 PM
patjennings - 18 Oct 2020 11:12 PM

So, you booed?

I didn't boo. I saw Muscat as a dirty player that got away without a red card but was happy that he scored for the Socceroos and put us ahead in the home leg against Uruguay. 

But the same as the 3-1 win against Japan in 2006, I thought that Timmy was lucky not to get a penalty against him to put us behind against Japan. That game could have been Timmy in disgrace rather than Timmy the hero. Glad it worked out for him and the Socceroos

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patjennings - 18 Oct 2020 11:26 PM
paladisious - 18 Oct 2020 11:14 PM

I didn't boo. But the same as the 3-1 win against Japan in 2006, I thought that Timmy was lucky not to get a penalty against him to put us behind against Japan. 

I think your reasonable opinion of what happened in that game in 2006 does not have a lot to do with the vitriol leveled at an Australian coach in the Belgian league trying to pave a path for Australian football in 2020.

If Kev did get a red for whatever reason in that friendly against France he still would have still been perfectly eligible for the WCQ, unless the rules have changed since then. Like sub I was a youngun' back then myself so I can't claim expertise on the specifics.

I think it's helpful that you did tell us that you didn't boo him at the time, obviously as that was before Victory even existed.

Thanks to your insights from back then I'm even more sure than I was before that 99% of what we hear about him in the Australian football fandom wouldn't be heard if he never played for Victory, or certainly not at the levels of vitriol we see in this thread today.
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sub007 - 18 Oct 2020 11:21 PM
Balin Trev - 18 Oct 2020 11:03 PM

Debatable.

Look at the stats if you want a reasonable debate: https://www.ultimatealeague.com/records.php?type=mgr&show=msm

The third highest winning percentage of anyone with more than 100 games being "a pretty good coach by [insert relevant country] standards" in a given country should be beyond debate to anyone reasonable.
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paladisious - 18 Oct 2020 11:37 PM
patjennings - 18 Oct 2020 11:26 PM

I think your reasonable opinion of what happened in that game in 2006 does not have a lot to do with the vitriol leveled at an Australian coach in the Belgian league trying to pave a path for Australian football in 2020.

If Kev did get a red for whatever reason in that friendly against France he still would have still been perfectly eligible for the WCQ, unless the rules have changed since then. Like sub I was a youngun' back then myself so I can't claim expertise on the specifics.

I think it's helpful that you did tell us that you didn't boo him at the time, obviously as that was before Victory even existed.

Thanks to your insights from back then I'm even more sure than I was before that 99% of what we hear about him in the Australian football fandom wouldn't be heard if he never played for Victory, or certainly not at the levels of vitriol we see in this thread today.

Just because I view him as a dirty player doesn't mean I hope he fails OS as a coach. I want to see Harry, Popovic and Muscat all succeed. Ange had a lot of success last year but seemed to have fallen off the pace this year. I hope he can turn that around as well. 
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