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grazorblade - 28 Jul 2021 9:55 AM
Bunch of Hacks - 25 Jul 2021 9:45 PM

I think to be a foreign player, whether it's the a league or abroad, you have to be not just good enough for the team but one of the best in the team. If you aren't then fans quickly complain that you are blocking the development of domestic players - mediocre domestic players almost always get favoured over above average foreign players. 

Add to that the fact that the stereotypes about coming from australia is probably similar to how we would feel if an a league club bought a young player who was doing well in the singapore league. Every time an aussie gets signed I go onto the club forums to take a look (often using google translate) and there is often irritation that they have signed an aussie and the board should spend some money on someone decent. Fan outrage puts pressure on the coach (who is also constantly worrying about their job) so a single mistake could be the end of your career. Compare that to a promising young player from brazil with a bit of hype about them and they get proper time.

Then you get the fact that you will be home sick and disorientated and playing 20% below your best for the first year or two while you adapt to being a young person living in a foreign country (I say this from experience).

You really need to dominate the domestic league to have a chance. It's not about being good enough, it's about being better then the typical starting player in the side. If you came through their academy, even for one year, a lot of those factors are no longer there. You have adjusted to the country, fans encourage coaches to give development players more chances and their is no anger at playing them (though you will still get stereotype threat if you aren't from a big country). Having said that, you are part of a big crowd of kids that also went through the academy

I think atkinson played a 1000 minutes this year. Is he good enough that if he played in the national team against players of celtic pedigree or higher that he would hold his own or better? Yes absolutely! Is he ready to overcome all of that? No in my opinion

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grazorblade - 28 Jul 2021 9:55 AM
Bunch of Hacks - 25 Jul 2021 9:45 PM

I think to be a foreign player, whether it's the a league or abroad, you have to be not just good enough for the team but one of the best in the team. If you aren't then fans quickly complain that you are blocking the development of domestic players - mediocre domestic players almost always get favoured over above average foreign players. 

Add to that the fact that the stereotypes about coming from australia is probably similar to how we would feel if an a league club bought a young player who was doing well in the singapore league. Every time an aussie gets signed I go onto the club forums to take a look (often using google translate) and there is often irritation that they have signed an aussie and the board should spend some money on someone decent. Fan outrage puts pressure on the coach (who is also constantly worrying about their job) so a single mistake could be the end of your career. Compare that to a promising young player from brazil with a bit of hype about them and they get proper time.

Then you get the fact that you will be home sick and disorientated and playing 20% below your best for the first year or two while you adapt to being a young person living in a foreign country (I say this from experience).

You really need to dominate the domestic league to have a chance. It's not about being good enough, it's about being better then the typical starting player in the side. If you came through their academy, even for one year, a lot of those factors are no longer there. You have adjusted to the country, fans encourage coaches to give development players more chances and their is no anger at playing them (though you will still get stereotype threat if you aren't from a big country). Having said that, you are part of a big crowd of kids that also went through the academy

I think atkinson played a 1000 minutes this year. Is he good enough that if he played in the national team against players of celtic pedigree or higher that he would hold his own or better? Yes absolutely! Is he ready to overcome all of that? No in my opinion

VEry well put.
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grazorblade - 28 Jul 2021 9:55 AM
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You really need to dominate the domestic league to have a chance. It's not about being good enough, it's about being better then the typical starting player in the side. 

Nice point.
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Bunch of Hacks - 25 Jul 2021 9:45 PM
BrisbaneBhoy - 25 Jul 2021 2:13 PM

Mate are you watching the Spain game now? 

Still think that Atkinson isn't celtic quality?!? 

Another thing ... I named mooy and Ryan in my original post. Are you seriously trying to claim they aren't celtic quality either? 

Not only are they good enough for celtic they would be stars in our current team. The current celtic are a far cry from the days of buying 2 of the better strikers in the prem (sutton and Hartson). 



I think to be a foreign player, whether it's the a league or abroad, you have to be not just good enough for the team but one of the best in the team. If you aren't then fans quickly complain that you are blocking the development of domestic players - mediocre domestic players almost always get favoured over above average foreign players. 

Add to that the fact that the stereotypes about coming from australia is probably similar to how we would feel if an a league club bought a young player who was doing well in the singapore league. Every time an aussie gets signed I go onto the club forums to take a look (often using google translate) and there is often irritation that they have signed an aussie and the board should spend some money on someone decent. Fan outrage puts pressure on the coach (who is also constantly worrying about their job) so a single mistake could be the end of your career. Compare that to a promising young player from brazil with a bit of hype about them and they get proper time.

Then you get the fact that you will be home sick and disorientated and playing 20% below your best for the first year or two while you adapt to being a young person living in a foreign country (I say this from experience).

You really need to dominate the domestic league to have a chance. It's not about being good enough, it's about being better then the typical starting player in the side. If you came through their academy, even for one year, a lot of those factors are no longer there. You have adjusted to the country, fans encourage coaches to give development players more chances and their is no anger at playing them (though you will still get stereotype threat if you aren't from a big country). Having said that, you are part of a big crowd of kids that also went through the academy

I think atkinson played a 1000 minutes this year. Is he good enough that if he played in the national team against players of celtic pedigree or higher that he would hold his own or better? Yes absolutely! Is he ready to overcome all of that? No in my opinion
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Whilst I'm glad that you rate Australian players, I honestly don't think that any of the highlighted players are good enough to be playing for Celtic. PSV fans I talk to rate Behich and Sainsbury as two of the worst players that they've had in recent years [1 fan went as far to say that Behich is the worst player he's ever seen play for PSV], whilst I don't think that Good's body could handle the type of schedule that Celtic has without the constant breakdowns he had during his time at Newcastle.

On the other players mentioned, I think Atkinson needs another year or two of regular football at Melb. City before he's ready to make the jump imo, while I also don't really rate Grant that highly. Admittedly, I don't see as much of him as some of the forum regulars, so maybe I'm missing something. I think he's got a big engine and a good work rate, but I don't think he has the technical skills required to have a successful European career. Smith's in a good spot at Seattle, so it'd be foolish for him to consider leaving, and Luongo has only played 43 games from a possible 103 games since signing for Sheffield Wednesday, which suggests he's either injury prone or out of favour: not good enough to earn a move again.

I agree with you that, while we hope Aussie players do well, quite a few are overrated.

As regards Sainsbury, specifically, I feel as if that criticism from those PSV fans is surely a bit rough. A non-Aussie mate of mine (who has played football overseas at quite a high level and understands the game very well) was very impressed by Australia's defence at the 2018 World Cup. And Trent Sainsbury was a key part of that defence.

For what it's worth, this particular friend has never stepped foot in Australia (so not exactly pro-Aussie). Admittedly, that's not exactly the same thing as a diehard PSV fan who keeps close tabs on all the players in the squad.
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Bunch of Hacks - 25 Jul 2021 9:45 PM
BrisbaneBhoy - 25 Jul 2021 2:13 PM

Mate are you watching the Spain game now? 

Still think that Atkinson isn't celtic quality?!?

Another thing ... I named mooy and Ryan in my original post. Are you seriously trying to claim they aren't celtic quality either? He's easily an upgrade on Ralston, even more so in ange ball. 

Not only are they good enough for celtic they would be stars in our current team. The current celtic are a far cry from the days of buying 2 of the better strikers in the prem (sutton and Hartson). 


As for Ralston I have said he isn't good enough for Celtic, and will barely see many minutes if he is still around come the close of the transfer window.

What I am saying is we need to be targeting a higher calibre of players then those that you have mentioned/put forth. That's my own personal view - If you think that those are good enough, and are the type of players we should be targeting/chasing, than I'm going to have to agree to disagree, as IMO you haven't set the bar high enough (just my take on the situation).

As for Mooy I like him, and I do believe he could offer Celtic something. Whether or not he would be willing to take the necessary huge pay cut needed for us to have any chance at signing him is out of our control. 

As for Ryan, that ship has sailed, so there is really is no need bringing him up. That being said, as much as I like Ryan, if it was a straight choice between Ryan and Forster, Forster get my vote everytime, though deep down I know that move is highly unlikely to happen also.

I've been properly following Celtic since the mid/late eighties (not the most enjoyable time to be a Tim) so you don't really need to tell/remind me that times have changed, all due to the stupid crazy money that has flooded into the game (mostly to those south of the border) and has destroyed any chance that Celtic (and Rangers) will ever have at reaching our full potential, and hence why we have pretty much become a feeder club to those clubs who play in the leagues awashed with coin.

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Also, you are still to answered the question I asked you several post ago. Am I to take your silence on the topic that you don't wish to respond to the the question??  If that's the case that's fine, but an acknowledgement would have been nice 🙂

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Bunch of Hacks - 25 Jul 2021 9:45 PM
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I wouldnae be picking any of the four players you just mentioned. Out of the current crop of players we currently have available, I would be picking Lee O'Connor ahead of all four of those players mentioned. 

I'm not arguing that Ralston is a better player to those three Australian players you mentioned, as he is utter shite. What I'm am saying is none of those three players (four if you count Ralston) are Celtic calibre players, and should be nowhere near a Celtic top. Ralston gets a slight pass due to coming through the youth ranks. As for the senior team, he can get ta fuck away from the top.
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SIDE NOTE:  Are you going to answer the question that I asked you in the earlier post?? The reason I'm asking is I am genuinely interested in your thoughts on the topic 🙂

Mate are you watching the Spain game now? 

Still think that Atkinson isn't celtic quality?!? 

Another thing ... I named mooy and Ryan in my original post. Are you seriously trying to claim they aren't celtic quality either? 

Not only are they good enough for celtic they would be stars in our current team. The current celtic are a far cry from the days of buying 2 of the better strikers in the prem (sutton and Hartson). 

Atkinson is fantastic
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BrisbaneBhoy - 25 Jul 2021 2:13 PM
Bunch of Hacks - 25 Jul 2021 7:39 AM

I wouldnae be picking any of the four players you just mentioned. Out of the current crop of players we currently have available, I would be picking Lee O'Connor ahead of all four of those players mentioned. 

I'm not arguing that Ralston is a better player to those three Australian players you mentioned, as he is utter shite. What I'm am saying is none of those three players (four if you count Ralston) are Celtic calibre players, and should be nowhere near a Celtic top. Ralston gets a slight pass due to coming through the youth ranks. As for the senior team, he can get ta fuck away from the top.
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SIDE NOTE:  Are you going to answer the question that I asked you in the earlier post?? The reason I'm asking is I am genuinely interested in your thoughts on the topic 🙂

Mate are you watching the Spain game now? 

Still think that Atkinson isn't celtic quality?!? 

Another thing ... I named mooy and Ryan in my original post. Are you seriously trying to claim they aren't celtic quality either? 

Not only are they good enough for celtic they would be stars in our current team. The current celtic are a far cry from the days of buying 2 of the better strikers in the prem (sutton and Hartson). 



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CanberraHarry - 25 Jul 2021 11:07 AM
I follow about four different Celtic FB pages and 90% of fans are angry at the Board, not Ange, including well known player/commentators like Sutton. There’s wide acknowledgement the squad has little depth for a strong campaign domesitcally or in Europe and needs a number of experienced players. Still, too many beltings like that Ange may still be a sacrificial lamb. 

Yep, the board had been fucking around doing the bare minimum for years as their sole attention was on the SPFL, not Europe (even Lennon wasn't given the backing he needed the past season and a half - which ended in utter disaster).

Don't get me wrong Lawwell did way more good the not, and has put our club in an extremely strong financial position. It's just he, and other board members took their eyes off the section that needed their full attention - strengthening the playing squad.

They doing everything on the cheap, only keeping their eyes on the SFPL (Scotland) and not Europe has put us in the position we currently find ourselves in.

I'm really hoping that Dominic McKay will bring a new way of running things, and gives the areas that need the most attention and help their proper dues and fix things sooner than later. I guess only time will tell 😕


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BrisbaneBhoy - 25 Jul 2021 2:32 AM

So tell me... you're in the play ground picking your sides, Ralston, grant and Atkinson are the last 3 players left, its your turn and you just so happen to need a RB.. you mean to tell me seriously that you're picking Ralston ahead of the other 2?  

I wouldnae be picking any of the four players you just mentioned. Out of the current crop of players we currently have available, I would be picking Lee O'Connor ahead of all four of those players mentioned. 

I'm not arguing that Ralston is a better player to those three Australian players you mentioned, as he is utter shite. What I'm am saying is none of those three players (four if you count Ralston) are Celtic calibre players, and should be nowhere near a Celtic top. Ralston gets a slight pass due to coming through the youth ranks. As for the senior team, he can get ta fuck away from the top.
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BrisbaneBhoy - 25 Jul 2021 2:32 AM

So tell me... you're in the play ground picking your sides, Ralston, grant and Atkinson are the last 3 players left, its your turn and you just so happen to need a RB.. you mean to tell me seriously that you're picking Ralston ahead of the other 2?  

I think the point being made is you could name over 100 right backs playing closer to Scotland that are better than Ralston, Ralston isn't going to be first choice right back and is only there to make up the numbers on a team sheet when the season starts. Have a look at previous rbs, Jonjoe Kenny who came off the back of a full season in the Bundesliga wasn't good enough, Jeremy Toljan who was a backup Dortmund player now playing regulary in the Serie A wasn't good enough- Somehow I don't think a 30 year old Rhyan Grant who has only played in the A-league will be looked at. A bid of 2-3m for Aurélio Buta has been submitted according to the press.
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I follow about four different Celtic FB pages and 90% of fans are angry at the Board, not Ange, including well known player/commentators like Sutton. There’s wide acknowledgement the squad has little depth for a strong campaign domesitcally or in Europe and needs a number of experienced players. Still, too many beltings like that Ange may still be a sacrificial lamb. 
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BrisbaneBhoy - 25 Jul 2021 2:32 AM
Bunch of Hacks - 24 Jul 2021 9:58 PM

None of the players you mentioned IMHO are anywhere near good enough to be playing for Celtic, and would also have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them.

If when the board finally pulls their finger out of their arses hopefully we will see strength added were needed - ie wing-backs (both sides), an extra CD (we just signed Starfelt, and need probably one more), and a new keeper (fingers crossed I'm hoping for Forster return).

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I do have a personal question for you. There is no real wrong answer (depends on who you ask 😉)....  What comes first for you, Celtic or Australian players??  The reason I ask is, you seem fine settling/suggesting players (Australians) which to be blunt (IMO) are not Celtic calibre players.

So tell me... you're in the play ground picking your sides, Ralston, grant and Atkinson are the last 3 players left, its your turn and you just so happen to need a RB.. you mean to tell me seriously that you're picking Ralston ahead of the other 2?  
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Bunch of Hacks - 24 Jul 2021 9:58 PM
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Are you actually familiar with Celtics players? 

Again, the players i mention are better than the current incumbents. Not saying any of those transfers will ever happen but just saying those players are better than the incumbents. Nothing in above you said disproved that 

None of the players you mentioned IMHO are anywhere near good enough to be playing for Celtic, and would also have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them.

If when the board finally pulls their finger out of their arses hopefully we will see strength added were needed - ie wing-backs (both sides), an extra CD (we just signed Starfelt, and need probably one more), and a new keeper (fingers crossed I'm hoping for Forster return).

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I do have a personal question for you. There is no real wrong answer (depends on who you ask 😉)....  What comes first for you, Celtic or Australian players??  The reason I ask is, you seem fine settling/suggesting players (Australians) which to be blunt (IMO) are not Celtic calibre players.

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Ryan Grant lol, Ralston is only playing because he's getting paid peanuts- will be sitting on the bench or in the stands for most games this season. We aren't winning anything with Barkas in goal, worst GK I've seen at Celtic, Ange better give up this experiment of playing him again and at least play it safe with Bain until we get someone better in. 

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even though it was a friendly that was embarrassing, the guy who scored West Hams last goal was released from Celtic about a month ago haha. Ange has been hung out to dry so far given that backline would be a mid table spfl defence at best, however I'm not sure what lessons were learnt  that we didn't already know, now we're going into the 2nd leg of a Champions League qualifier with 0 confidence, will be an interesting press conference coming up I'd assume.
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CanberraHarry - 24 Jul 2021 10:24 PM
So I have Kayo and it seems that will get me SPFL matches but not tonight’s friendly. Anyone know how to stream just tonight’s match? My internet searching and attempt at a one game Celtic tv approach has failed.

If you never got a stream ( i have one i can message you. ), then you'll be happy as they are getting horsed 1-3 at half time.
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So I have Kayo and it seems that will get me SPFL matches but not tonight’s friendly. Anyone know how to stream just tonight’s match? My internet searching and attempt at a one game Celtic tv approach has failed.
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Whilst I'm glad that you rate Australian players, I honestly don't think that any of the highlighted players are good enough to be playing for Celtic. PSV fans I talk to rate Behich and Sainsbury as two of the worst players that they've had in recent years [1 fan went as far to say that Behich is the worst player he's ever seen play for PSV], whilst I don't think that Good's body could handle the type of schedule that Celtic has without the constant breakdowns he had during his time at Newcastle.

On the other players mentioned, I think Atkinson needs another year or two of regular football at Melb. City before he's ready to make the jump imo, while I also don't really rate Grant that highly. Admittedly, I don't see as much of him as some of the forum regulars, so maybe I'm missing something. I think he's got a big engine and a good work rate, but I don't think he has the technical skills required to have a successful European career. Smith's in a good spot at Seattle, so it'd be foolish for him to consider leaving, and Luongo has only played 43 games from a possible 103 games since signing for Sheffield Wednesday, which suggests he's either injury prone or out of favour: not good enough to earn a move again.

Are you actually familiar with Celtics players? 

Again, the players i mention are better than the current incumbents. Not saying any of those transfers will ever happen but just saying those players are better than the incumbents. Nothing in above you said disproved that 
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inala brah - 21 Jul 2021 5:11 PM

There's still talk of mooy going to us. 

Real real shame Ryan didn't come as he would be certain starter and fit anges system perfectly bringing his best football out. 

In terms of other players either Atkinson or Grant would both be an upgrade on Ralston. Smith or Behich on the left too would be upgrade on Taylor and suit the style better. Good or Sainsbury as ball playing center backs, mass loungo as a backup number 8. 

Other than those I cant see too many realistic options. 

Whilst I'm glad that you rate Australian players, I honestly don't think that any of the highlighted players are good enough to be playing for Celtic. PSV fans I talk to rate Behich and Sainsbury as two of the worst players that they've had in recent years [1 fan went as far to say that Behich is the worst player he's ever seen play for PSV], whilst I don't think that Good's body could handle the type of schedule that Celtic has without the constant breakdowns he had during his time at Newcastle.

On the other players mentioned, I think Atkinson needs another year or two of regular football at Melb. City before he's ready to make the jump imo, while I also don't really rate Grant that highly. Admittedly, I don't see as much of him as some of the forum regulars, so maybe I'm missing something. I think he's got a big engine and a good work rate, but I don't think he has the technical skills required to have a successful European career. Smith's in a good spot at Seattle, so it'd be foolish for him to consider leaving, and Luongo has only played 43 games from a possible 103 games since signing for Sheffield Wednesday, which suggests he's either injury prone or out of favour: not good enough to earn a move again.

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Geez you guys complain about the shite on the Celtic forum (and I agree, I’m on it) but this thread is just as bad. 
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CanberraHarry - 24 Jul 2021 9:46 AM
Balin Trev - 24 Jul 2021 8:55 AM

The next time one of these exchanges breaks out between you two, if one of you could take the high ground and let the other have the final say, we’d all be most appreciative. The rest of us will be very grateful to whichever of you stands down first. Or maybe you could both start your own thread, so you can argue with each other about each and every micro-offence and the rest of us can drop in if we are mildly amused but otherwise mostly ignore it. 
You both have something to offer on football, which is great, but this massive dickears drama you both get into is wholly tiresome. 

Fine by me 👍
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SUTHERLANDBEAR - 24 Jul 2021 12:11 AM

Well done ‘ShitLandBear’ you’re derailing another thread.
Who started this argument then?! And the previous one?? Must have been the tooth fairy 🤔
if you wanna get upset/annoyed/sooky😓 with what i write to other forum members then stop typing BULLSHIT directed at me... 


The next time one of these exchanges breaks out between you two, if one of you could take the high ground and let the other have the final say, we’d all be most appreciative. The rest of us will be very grateful to whichever of you stands down first. Or maybe you could both start your own thread, so you can argue with each other about each and every micro-offence and the rest of us can drop in if we are mildly amused but otherwise mostly ignore it. 
You both have something to offer on football, which is great, but this massive dickears drama you both get into is wholly tiresome. 

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SUTHERLANDBEAR - 23 Jul 2021 6:30 PM
Balin Trev - 23 Jul 2021 6:24 PM

Nice try, you are nothing but a hater on all things Scottish.

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Balin Trev - 23 Jul 2021 10:02 PM

I am not complaining or verbally attacking folk due to a lack of intelligence.

I have not started any arguments either.

Well done ‘ShitLandBear’ you’re derailing another thread.
Who started this argument then?! And the previous one?? Must have been the tooth fairy 🤔
if you wanna get upset/annoyed/sooky😓 with what i write to other forum members then stop typing BULLSHIT directed at me... 


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SUTHERLANDBEAR - 23 Jul 2021 9:51 PM

You keep starting these arguments you dumb fuck. Don’t complain about what YOU started... 

I am not complaining or verbally attacking folk due to a lack of intelligence.

I have not started any arguments either.
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SUTHERLANDBEAR - 23 Jul 2021 9:51 PM
Balin Trev - 23 Jul 2021 6:48 PM

This isnae messenger, but a forum which anyone can contribute to any topic.

You really are a bitter little fanboy.

You keep starting these arguments you dumb fuck. Don’t complain about what YOU started... 
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Balin Trev - 23 Jul 2021 6:48 PM
SUTHERLANDBEAR - 23 Jul 2021 6:30 PM

Yet again you’re interfering in a chat that has fuck all to do with you...
i admit Not a big fan of things from glasgow. Rest of Scotland i will support, especially with some of my ancestors being from the MacGilvray clan on Isle Of Mull, and some of them even fought and died at Battle of Culloden- not that I expect you of all creatures to give a shit

This isnae messenger, but a forum which anyone can contribute to any topic.

You really are a bitter little fanboy.
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SUTHERLANDBEAR - 23 Jul 2021 6:30 PM
Balin Trev - 23 Jul 2021 6:24 PM

Nice try, you are nothing but a hater on all things Scottish.

Yet again you’re interfering in a chat that has fuck all to do with you...
i admit Not a big fan of things from glasgow. Rest of Scotland i will support, especially with some of my ancestors being from the MacGilvray clan on Isle Of Mull, and some of them even fought and died at Battle of Culloden- not that I expect you of all creatures to give a shit
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BrisbaneBhoy - 23 Jul 2021 6:13 PM

I do respect your passion that you have for your football club BB. I’m a stirrer of the pot on this forum as you know 😉 And hard for all Aus football fans not to be interested in Ange plying his trade at a very big/famous club

Nice try, you are nothing but a hater on all things Scottish.
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