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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think Ange is doing a good job. Thoughts? Good?? You call getting kicked out of three different European competitions, along with one domestic cup competition. While only winning the lesser of all the Titles on offer during a season. Along with him yet to win the League. You call that "doing a good job"?? Yeah it IS a two club league...... heads or tales one ot them always wins it.... Like LFC says, barely a pass mark :) No one said Serie A was a one club league when Juventus won it 9 years in a row recently. No one says the Bundesliga is a one club league yet Bayern Munich has won it 10 times in a row and counting. And closer to home for you how about Olympiacos in the Greek Super League? At least the SPL is a 2 club league :-) But, the others are not pub football teams. They just don't have the funds to spend. Rangers doesn't either but it spends them anyway.That's why they are always being propped up by wealthy benefactors. Take a breath bud, see my reply to BB above...... was being sarcastic FFS :) Oh and the sons of whores from Pireaus and their heroin dealing owner of Nottingham Forrest can collectively go and get fucked.... Yes you were being sarcastic about barely a pass mark, that was obvious, but I doubt you were re the 2 team league. Doubt away all you like bud.... I was taking the piss... Ignore the twat, he is a wee bit upset this morning. Actually I am not. Whilst I wanted RB Leipzig to win it will be good for Scottish football if Rangers qualify for the Champions League. Whilst you are responsible for what you say you aren't responsible for how people interpret the words you use. There is only one way to interpret your use of the word twat. Why do you always have to be so vulgar?
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+xDream is still alive: Rangers Europa Hearts Cup Celtic title I really hope not. Because if it does eventuate it won't be a dream if the Huns end up winning the Europa League. Now, I said it many times before that I honestly don't care how deep they get in Europe, so long as they don't win a/the Title. They've done enough this season in helping out with the coefficient. Also Frunkfurt would be deserving winners of the Europa League title in my opinion.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think Ange is doing a good job. Thoughts? Good?? You call getting kicked out of three different European competitions, along with one domestic cup competition. While only winning the lesser of all the Titles on offer during a season. Along with him yet to win the League. You call that "doing a good job"?? Yeah it IS a two club league...... heads or tales one ot them always wins it.... Like LFC says, barely a pass mark :) No one said Serie A was a one club league when Juventus won it 9 years in a row recently. No one says the Bundesliga is a one club league yet Bayern Munich has won it 10 times in a row and counting. And closer to home for you how about Olympiacos in the Greek Super League? At least the SPL is a 2 club league :-) But, the others are not pub football teams. They just don't have the funds to spend. Rangers doesn't either but it spends them anyway.That's why they are always being propped up by wealthy benefactors. Take a breath bud, see my reply to BB above...... was being sarcastic FFS :) Oh and the sons of whores from Pireaus and their heroin dealing owner of Nottingham Forrest can collectively go and get fucked.... Yes you were being sarcastic about barely a pass mark, that was obvious, but I doubt you were re the 2 team league. Doubt away all you like bud.... I was taking the piss... Ignore the twat, he is a wee bit upset this morning. Actually I am not. Whilst I wanted RB Leipzig to win it will be good for Scottish football if Rangers qualify for the Champions League. Whilst you are responsible for what you say you aren't responsible for how people interpret the words you use. There is only one way to interpret your use of the word twat. Why do you always have to be so vulgar? Are you sure you EVER lived in Scotland? That is one of the nicer words we use.
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Amazing achievement thus far by Rangers. When is the last time this happened, was in 2008 with a rangers in the UEFA cup final?
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+x+x+xI think Ange is doing a good job. Thoughts? done ok a pass I guess. LOL. I suspect you were being sarcastic. At least Brisbane Bhoy typed in blue in his post below to indicate he was and he was mimicking SB that poster who supports a team whose fans allegedly attacked women and children at Fir Hill recently. Manager of the year answers the question perfectly. that I was enjoying the banter.....in saying that kudos to our greek aussie ange even though I have not much luv for him he has influenced a struggling squad at the same time impeccable timing SG leaving that played well for the Hoops so also to the Huns recovering that huge change and in the end getting to the Europa Finale. The 2 horse SPL done well this season :)
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think Ange is doing a good job. Thoughts? Good?? You call getting kicked out of three different European competitions, along with one domestic cup competition. While only winning the lesser of all the Titles on offer during a season. Along with him yet to win the League. You call that "doing a good job"?? Yeah it IS a two club league...... heads or tales one ot them always wins it.... Like LFC says, barely a pass mark :) No one said Serie A was a one club league when Juventus won it 9 years in a row recently. No one says the Bundesliga is a one club league yet Bayern Munich has won it 10 times in a row and counting. And closer to home for you how about Olympiacos in the Greek Super League? At least the SPL is a 2 club league :-) But, the others are not pub football teams. They just don't have the funds to spend. Rangers doesn't either but it spends them anyway.That's why they are always being propped up by wealthy benefactors. Take a breath bud, see my reply to BB above...... was being sarcastic FFS :) Oh and the sons of whores from Pireaus and their heroin dealing owner of Nottingham Forrest can collectively go and get fucked.... Yes you were being sarcastic about barely a pass mark, that was obvious, but I doubt you were re the 2 team league. Doubt away all you like bud.... I was taking the piss... Ignore the twat, he is a wee bit upset this morning. Actually I am not. Whilst I wanted RB Leipzig to win it will be good for Scottish football if Rangers qualify for the Champions League. Whilst you are responsible for what you say you aren't responsible for how people interpret the words you use. There is only one way to interpret your use of the word twat. Why do you always have to be so vulgar? Are you sure you EVER lived in Scotland? That is one of the nicer words we use. Lol. Nationality has nothing to do with vulgarity. Indecency is indecency no matter which way you look at it. You well know I did. I gave you proof. There were things that I said that a non Scot wouldn't know. There are some that put the whole of the game before the part. Clearly you don't. I have friends who support Rangers and that's ok. Are you sure you weren't amongst the thugs at Fir Hill recently wearing Balaclavas and Rangers Scarves?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think Ange is doing a good job. Thoughts? Good?? You call getting kicked out of three different European competitions, along with one domestic cup competition. While only winning the lesser of all the Titles on offer during a season. Along with him yet to win the League. You call that "doing a good job"?? Yeah it IS a two club league...... heads or tales one ot them always wins it.... Like LFC says, barely a pass mark :) No one said Serie A was a one club league when Juventus won it 9 years in a row recently. No one says the Bundesliga is a one club league yet Bayern Munich has won it 10 times in a row and counting. And closer to home for you how about Olympiacos in the Greek Super League? At least the SPL is a 2 club league :-) But, the others are not pub football teams. They just don't have the funds to spend. Rangers doesn't either but it spends them anyway.That's why they are always being propped up by wealthy benefactors. Take a breath bud, see my reply to BB above...... was being sarcastic FFS :) Oh and the sons of whores from Pireaus and their heroin dealing owner of Nottingham Forrest can collectively go and get fucked.... Yes you were being sarcastic about barely a pass mark, that was obvious, but I doubt you were re the 2 team league. Doubt away all you like bud.... I was taking the piss... Ignore the twat, he is a wee bit upset this morning. Actually I am not. Whilst I wanted RB Leipzig to win it will be good for Scottish football if Rangers qualify for the Champions League. I have no issues if they qualify for the Champions League.... via the play-off rounds. Just not via winning the Europa League.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think Ange is doing a good job. Thoughts? Good?? You call getting kicked out of three different European competitions, along with one domestic cup competition. While only winning the lesser of all the Titles on offer during a season. Along with him yet to win the League. You call that "doing a good job"?? Yeah it IS a two club league...... heads or tales one ot them always wins it.... Like LFC says, barely a pass mark :) No one said Serie A was a one club league when Juventus won it 9 years in a row recently. No one says the Bundesliga is a one club league yet Bayern Munich has won it 10 times in a row and counting. And closer to home for you how about Olympiacos in the Greek Super League? At least the SPL is a 2 club league :-) But, the others are not pub football teams. They just don't have the funds to spend. Rangers doesn't either but it spends them anyway.That's why they are always being propped up by wealthy benefactors. Take a breath bud, see my reply to BB above...... was being sarcastic FFS :) Oh and the sons of whores from Pireaus and their heroin dealing owner of Nottingham Forrest can collectively go and get fucked.... Yes you were being sarcastic about barely a pass mark, that was obvious, but I doubt you were re the 2 team league. Doubt away all you like bud.... I was taking the piss... Ignore the twat, he is a wee bit upset this morning. Actually I am not. Whilst I wanted RB Leipzig to win it will be good for Scottish football if Rangers qualify for the Champions League. I have no issues if the qualify for the Champions League.... via the play-off rounds. Just not via winning the Europa League. Yes, that would be the preference by far. The bad part of that is the cash windfall that would accompany it either way. But, although I have an aversion to them, they need to be around for the sake of the SPL.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think Ange is doing a good job. Thoughts? Good?? You call getting kicked out of three different European competitions, along with one domestic cup competition. While only winning the lesser of all the Titles on offer during a season. Along with him yet to win the League. You call that "doing a good job"?? Yeah it IS a two club league...... heads or tales one ot them always wins it.... Like LFC says, barely a pass mark :) No one said Serie A was a one club league when Juventus won it 9 years in a row recently. No one says the Bundesliga is a one club league yet Bayern Munich has won it 10 times in a row and counting. And closer to home for you how about Olympiacos in the Greek Super League? At least the SPL is a 2 club league :-) But, the others are not pub football teams. They just don't have the funds to spend. Rangers doesn't either but it spends them anyway.That's why they are always being propped up by wealthy benefactors. Take a breath bud, see my reply to BB above...... was being sarcastic FFS :) Oh and the sons of whores from Pireaus and their heroin dealing owner of Nottingham Forrest can collectively go and get fucked.... Yes you were being sarcastic about barely a pass mark, that was obvious, but I doubt you were re the 2 team league. Doubt away all you like bud.... I was taking the piss... Ignore the twat, he is a wee bit upset this morning. Actually I am not. Whilst I wanted RB Leipzig to win it will be good for Scottish football if Rangers qualify for the Champions League. I have no issues if the qualify for the Champions League.... via the play-off rounds. Just not via winning the Europa League. Yes, that would be the preference by far. The bad part of that is the cash windfall that would accompany it either way. But, although I have an aversion to them, they need to be around for the sake of the SPL. ba booom, without them in the SPL as it was for sometime lost it, would be like RM or Barca out of LaLiga another 2 horse race (viva Atleti recently) mostly...... Rangers are needed period in the SPL otherwise its not got much else on offer. Total titles Rangers 55 Hoops 51 next best is Aberdeen 4 who never had a hope during the 9yr reign and Ranger MIA till later. shame for SPL but they had to pay the dues. LaLiga at least has had a few spoilers to the big 2 over years. RM 35 Barca 26 Atleti 11 Bilbao 8 Valencia 6
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think Ange is doing a good job. Thoughts? Good?? You call getting kicked out of three different European competitions, along with one domestic cup competition. While only winning the lesser of all the Titles on offer during a season. Along with him yet to win the League. You call that "doing a good job"?? Yeah it IS a two club league...... heads or tales one ot them always wins it.... Like LFC says, barely a pass mark :) No one said Serie A was a one club league when Juventus won it 9 years in a row recently. No one says the Bundesliga is a one club league yet Bayern Munich has won it 10 times in a row and counting. And closer to home for you how about Olympiacos in the Greek Super League? At least the SPL is a 2 club league :-) But, the others are not pub football teams. They just don't have the funds to spend. Rangers doesn't either but it spends them anyway.That's why they are always being propped up by wealthy benefactors. Take a breath bud, see my reply to BB above...... was being sarcastic FFS :) Oh and the sons of whores from Pireaus and their heroin dealing owner of Nottingham Forrest can collectively go and get fucked.... Yes you were being sarcastic about barely a pass mark, that was obvious, but I doubt you were re the 2 team league. Doubt away all you like bud.... I was taking the piss... Ignore the twat, he is a wee bit upset this morning. Actually I am not. Whilst I wanted RB Leipzig to win it will be good for Scottish football if Rangers qualify for the Champions League. I have no issues if the qualify for the Champions League.... via the play-off rounds. Just not via winning the Europa League. Yes, that would be the preference by far. The bad part of that is the cash windfall that would accompany it either way. But, although I have an aversion to them, they need to be around for the sake of the SPL. ba booom, without them in the SPL as it was for sometime lost it, would be like RM or Barca out of LaLiga another 2 horse race (viva Atleti recently) mostly...... Rangers are needed period in the SPL otherwise its not got much else on offer. Total titles Rangers 55 Hoops 51 next best is Aberdeen 4 who never had a hope during the 9yr reign and Ranger MIA till later. shame for SPL but they had to pay the dues. LaLiga at least has had a few spoilers to the big 2 over years.RM 35 Barca 26 Atleti 11 Bilbao 8 Valencia 6 It comes down to the all mighty pound. And as long as the SPFL and SFA keep under valuing and under selling their product things will stay the status quo. What the likes of Sky pays for the TV rights is criminal on the SPFL and SFA part.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think Ange is doing a good job. Thoughts? Good?? You call getting kicked out of three different European competitions, along with one domestic cup competition. While only winning the lesser of all the Titles on offer during a season. Along with him yet to win the League. You call that "doing a good job"?? Yeah it IS a two club league...... heads or tales one ot them always wins it.... Like LFC says, barely a pass mark :) No one said Serie A was a one club league when Juventus won it 9 years in a row recently. No one says the Bundesliga is a one club league yet Bayern Munich has won it 10 times in a row and counting. And closer to home for you how about Olympiacos in the Greek Super League? At least the SPL is a 2 club league :-) But, the others are not pub football teams. They just don't have the funds to spend. Rangers doesn't either but it spends them anyway.That's why they are always being propped up by wealthy benefactors. Take a breath bud, see my reply to BB above...... was being sarcastic FFS :) Oh and the sons of whores from Pireaus and their heroin dealing owner of Nottingham Forrest can collectively go and get fucked.... Yes you were being sarcastic about barely a pass mark, that was obvious, but I doubt you were re the 2 team league. Doubt away all you like bud.... I was taking the piss... Ignore the twat, he is a wee bit upset this morning. Actually I am not. Whilst I wanted RB Leipzig to win it will be good for Scottish football if Rangers qualify for the Champions League. I have no issues if the qualify for the Champions League.... via the play-off rounds. Just not via winning the Europa League. Yes, that would be the preference by far. The bad part of that is the cash windfall that would accompany it either way. But, although I have an aversion to them, they need to be around for the sake of the SPL. ba booom, without them in the SPL as it was for sometime lost it, would be like RM or Barca out of LaLiga another 2 horse race (viva Atleti recently) mostly...... Rangers are needed period in the SPL otherwise its not got much else on offer. Total titles Rangers 55 Hoops 51 next best is Aberdeen 4 who never had a hope during the 9yr reign and Ranger MIA till later.shame for SPL but they had to pay the dues. LaLiga at least has had a few spoilers to the big 2 over years. RM 35 Barca 26 Atleti 11 Bilbao 8 Valencia 6 Hmmm careful LFC, you'll be accused of calling the mighty SPL a "two team league" HAhahahahahahahahah this thread is such good value.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think Ange is doing a good job. Thoughts? Good?? You call getting kicked out of three different European competitions, along with one domestic cup competition. While only winning the lesser of all the Titles on offer during a season. Along with him yet to win the League. You call that "doing a good job"?? Yeah it IS a two club league...... heads or tales one ot them always wins it.... Like LFC says, barely a pass mark :) No one said Serie A was a one club league when Juventus won it 9 years in a row recently. No one says the Bundesliga is a one club league yet Bayern Munich has won it 10 times in a row and counting. And closer to home for you how about Olympiacos in the Greek Super League? At least the SPL is a 2 club league :-) But, the others are not pub football teams. They just don't have the funds to spend. Rangers doesn't either but it spends them anyway.That's why they are always being propped up by wealthy benefactors. Take a breath bud, see my reply to BB above...... was being sarcastic FFS :) Oh and the sons of whores from Pireaus and their heroin dealing owner of Nottingham Forrest can collectively go and get fucked.... Yes you were being sarcastic about barely a pass mark, that was obvious, but I doubt you were re the 2 team league. Doubt away all you like bud.... I was taking the piss... Ignore the twat, he is a wee bit upset this morning. Actually I am not. Whilst I wanted RB Leipzig to win it will be good for Scottish football if Rangers qualify for the Champions League. I have no issues if the qualify for the Champions League.... via the play-off rounds. Just not via winning the Europa League. Yes, that would be the preference by far. The bad part of that is the cash windfall that would accompany it either way. But, although I have an aversion to them, they need to be around for the sake of the SPL. ba booom, without them in the SPL as it was for sometime lost it, would be like RM or Barca out of LaLiga another 2 horse race (viva Atleti recently) mostly...... Rangers are needed period in the SPL otherwise its not got much else on offer. Total titles Rangers 55 Hoops 51 next best is Aberdeen 4 who never had a hope during the 9yr reign and Ranger MIA till later. shame for SPL but they had to pay the dues. LaLiga at least has had a few spoilers to the big 2 over years.RM 35 Barca 26 Atleti 11 Bilbao 8 Valencia 6 It comes down to the all mighty pound. And as long as the SPFL and SFA keep under valuing and under selling their product things will stay the status quo. What the likes of Sky pays for the TV rights is criminal on the SPFL and SFA part. My understanding is that the SPFL receives £30 million per year for the TV rights. The EPL receives £1,650 million. Scotland's population is 5.5 million. England's 56 million. So the SPFL receives £5.45 for the deal per head of population. The EPL receives £29.65 per head. That is criminal. Does a greater percentage of the population watch football in England? I highly doubt it. But there are more EPL games available to broadcast. Thankfully Sky allows the clubs to televise their own games.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think Ange is doing a good job. Thoughts? Good?? You call getting kicked out of three different European competitions, along with one domestic cup competition. While only winning the lesser of all the Titles on offer during a season. Along with him yet to win the League. You call that "doing a good job"?? Yeah it IS a two club league...... heads or tales one ot them always wins it.... Like LFC says, barely a pass mark :) No one said Serie A was a one club league when Juventus won it 9 years in a row recently. No one says the Bundesliga is a one club league yet Bayern Munich has won it 10 times in a row and counting. And closer to home for you how about Olympiacos in the Greek Super League? At least the SPL is a 2 club league :-) But, the others are not pub football teams. They just don't have the funds to spend. Rangers doesn't either but it spends them anyway.That's why they are always being propped up by wealthy benefactors. Take a breath bud, see my reply to BB above...... was being sarcastic FFS :) Oh and the sons of whores from Pireaus and their heroin dealing owner of Nottingham Forrest can collectively go and get fucked.... Yes you were being sarcastic about barely a pass mark, that was obvious, but I doubt you were re the 2 team league. Doubt away all you like bud.... I was taking the piss... Ignore the twat, he is a wee bit upset this morning. Actually I am not. Whilst I wanted RB Leipzig to win it will be good for Scottish football if Rangers qualify for the Champions League. I have no issues if the qualify for the Champions League.... via the play-off rounds. Just not via winning the Europa League. Yes, that would be the preference by far. The bad part of that is the cash windfall that would accompany it either way. But, although I have an aversion to them, they need to be around for the sake of the SPL. ba booom, without them in the SPL as it was for sometime lost it, would be like RM or Barca out of LaLiga another 2 horse race (viva Atleti recently) mostly...... Rangers are needed period in the SPL otherwise its not got much else on offer. Total titles Rangers 55 Hoops 51 next best is Aberdeen 4 who never had a hope during the 9yr reign and Ranger MIA till later. shame for SPL but they had to pay the dues. LaLiga at least has had a few spoilers to the big 2 over years.RM 35 Barca 26 Atleti 11 Bilbao 8 Valencia 6 It comes down to the all mighty pound. And as long as the SPFL and SFA keep under valuing and under selling their product things will stay the status quo. What the likes of Sky pays for the TV rights is criminal on the SPFL and SFA part. My understanding is that the SPFL receives £30 million per year for the TV rights. The EPL receives £1,650 million. Scotland's population is 5.5 million. England's 56 million. So the SPFL receives £5.45 for the deal per head of population. The EPL receives £29.65 per head. That is criminal. Does a greater percentage of the population watch football in England? I highly doubt it. But there are more EPL games available to broadcast. Thankfully Sky allows the clubs to televise their own games. It is highly unlikely that it will be that way from next season onwards. Sky only really allowed it due to COVID. Not only will that more than likely change back to pre-COVID, but the 3pm blackout will more than likely return (if it hasn't already).
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if Rangers win Europa will Celtic still get the guaranteed UCL group spot?
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+xif Rangers win Europa will Celtic still get the guaranteed UCL group spot? Yes, if we win the League. Both teams will go straight into the Group Stage. The only difference being it would see the other lot be seeded in 'Pot A'.
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I seriously hope Celtic win convincingly tomorrow night and settle the League in their favour. If Celtic do this, I know rusted on ‘real’ Celtic fans will have a different view to me but as a johnny-come-lately ‘plastic’ Celtic fan I would then be happy for Rangers to win the Europa. It would be great for Scottish football and they have played really well. It would also throw down the gauntlet to the Celtic board to back Ange in to buy another six or so players on top of making Jota and CCV permanent.
If this all happens, in my view Celtic will have been the best side in the League and Rangers would have been the best side in Europe. Each set of fans will have their own one-eyed illogical view of bragging rights. And I too would like to see Hearts win the Scottish Cup, they too have had a good season deserving of a trophy.
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1:0 Hearts very early
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I tell you what we're always hearing how amazing Celtic fans are but damn do they go quiet as soon as things don't go exactly their way.
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ffs get behind your team and lift them you snobs
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On kayo?
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Dunno I've purchased Celtic tv
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+xI tell you what we're always hearing how amazing Celtic fans are but damn do they go quiet as soon as things don't go exactly their way. Never heard it from me. Lots of empty seats for a title winning day .
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+x+xI tell you what we're always hearing how amazing Celtic fans are but damn do they go quiet as soon as things don't go exactly their way. Never heard it from me. Lots of empty seats for a title winning day . Bigger stadium than Rangers tho
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+x+x+xI tell you what we're always hearing how amazing Celtic fans are but damn do they go quiet as soon as things don't go exactly their way. Never heard it from me. Lots of empty seats for a title winning day . Bigger stadium than Rangers tho And ? Embarrassing it is.
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get in Maeda
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sydneyfc1987
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+x+x+x+xI tell you what we're always hearing how amazing Celtic fans are but damn do they go quiet as soon as things don't go exactly their way. Never heard it from me. Lots of empty seats for a title winning day . Bigger stadium than Rangers tho And ? Embarrassing it is. Doubt Rangers would be any different if you had a similar size stadium. Point is you both suck ;)
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SUTHERLANDBEAR
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+xI tell you what we're always hearing how amazing Celtic fans are but damn do they go quiet as soon as things don't go exactly their way. Are you commenting from Kogarah ?
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