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Enzo Bearzot
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+x+x+x+x+xREMINDER: Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine to try to dig up dirt on Joe Biden. REMINDER That's because there was dirt to be found on The Big Guy. REMINDER: Trump told EU to start paying their NATO dues. REMINDER before that: Obama told the world the US won't be the world's policeman. EU should pay for their defence. Agreed. Correct and Trump doubled down on this with numerous policy pronouncements deliberately withdrawing America even further from the world stage. You can't have it both ways. And completely consistent with Trump's America First policy. The Europeans believed with Trump was gone, things would be back to normal and the US would pay for their security. Jokes on them. Yes the joke is on them. Meanwhile a sovereign country is being invaded by a megalomaniac intent on restoring the CCCP. Which country is next I wonder. How or why the right is defending Russia or pretending they 'understand' Putin's actions is absolutely baffling. In any other time in history this would be seen for what it is. An unjustified invasion of a democratically elected and governed country. This is not as bad as the bastardry of when the Soviets moved into Hungary in 54 but it's up there. And you know the weird thing. Blokes like you and Rusty can't even bring yourself to say this is bad. Like what the fuck is wrong with your politics when you can't denounce something like this. I suppose Trump set the bar when he said 'there's very fine people on both sides' so there is that. Again, you are creating fictitious arguments in your own mind and claiming victory. This ends one way. Putin dead. No way is the world going to live under the fear of this maniac pushing the red button whenever he decides he wants to extend Russia's borders and annihilating the world if anyone dares stop him. The only question is how and when.
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Enzo Bearzot
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xREMINDER: Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine to try to dig up dirt on Joe Biden. REMINDER That's because there was dirt to be found on The Big Guy. REMINDER: Trump told EU to start paying their NATO dues. REMINDER before that: Obama told the world the US won't be the world's policeman. EU should pay for their defence. Agreed. Correct and Trump doubled down on this with numerous policy pronouncements deliberately withdrawing America even further from the world stage. You can't have it both ways. And completely consistent with Trump's America First policy. The Europeans believed with Trump was gone, things would be back to normal and the US would pay for their security. Jokes on them. And you know the weird thing. Blokes like you and Rusty can't even bring yourself to say this is bad. Like what the fuck is wrong with your politics when you can't denounce something like this. I suppose Trump set the bar when he said 'there's very fine people on both sides' so there is that. Bang on. I have friends over there now, they are sending me videos of aircraft bombing outside their apartments, on my friends insta there is all dead people strewn across the street. So horrific. I suspect the russian people don't even want this. These alt right clowns acting like this is some sort of 'owning of the libs' Is Biden partly to blame? Probably but in no way would this not have happened under Trump. I agree 100% Biden has not helped the situation, but if Trump was in, he wouldn't even bring in sanctions. In lots of ways it's because of trump and these weak populist leaders that has given these despots the confidence to do what they want because they've sewn so much discord in the west It wouldnt happen under Trump because Trump would use strong rhetoric and implied if not actual miltiary force to make Russia back down. Under Trump there’s a real risk or nuclear and/or military conflict whereas under Biden and Kamala there’s just weakness, sloppy sanctions and empty threats. There’s no way Trump would allow Putin to just waltz in and watch them take Ukraine, hence why Putin waited for a weak, pathetic SJW Democrat to become President before making his move. 100% this. Its no co-incidence Putin kept his mouth shut and powder dry when Trump was in. And veryone else for that matter. No wars under his watch. His message was clear and simple. Don't fuck with Uncle Sam.
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Enzo Bearzot
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xREMINDER: Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine to try to dig up dirt on Joe Biden. REMINDER That's because there was dirt to be found on The Big Guy. REMINDER: Trump told EU to start paying their NATO dues. REMINDER before that: Obama told the world the US won't be the world's policeman. EU should pay for their defence. Agreed. Correct and Trump doubled down on this with numerous policy pronouncements deliberately withdrawing America even further from the world stage. You can't have it both ways. And completely consistent with Trump's America First policy. The Europeans believed with Trump was gone, things would be back to normal and the US would pay for their security. Jokes on them. And you know the weird thing. Blokes like you and Rusty can't even bring yourself to say this is bad. Like what the fuck is wrong with your politics when you can't denounce something like this. I suppose Trump set the bar when he said 'there's very fine people on both sides' so there is that. Bang on. I have friends over there now, they are sending me videos of aircraft bombing outside their apartments, on my friends insta there is all dead people strewn across the street. So horrific. I suspect the russian people don't even want this. These alt right clowns acting like this is some sort of 'owning of the libs' Is Biden partly to blame? Probably but in no way would this not have happened under Trump. I agree 100% Biden has not helped the situation, but if Trump was in, he wouldn't even bring in sanctions. In lots of ways it's because of trump and these weak populist leaders that has given these despots the confidence to do what they want because they've sewn so much discord in the west It wouldnt happen under Trump because Trump would use strong rhetoric and implied if not actual miltiary force to make Russia back down. Under Trump there’s a real risk or nuclear and/or military conflict whereas under Biden and Kamala there’s just weakness, sloppy sanctions and empty threats. There’s no way Trump would allow Putin to just waltz in and watch them take Ukraine, hence why Putin waited for a weak, pathetic SJW Democrat to become President before making his move. Trump repeatedly said, REPEATEDLY, that the US would not be dragged into 'dumb wars'. The only way Trump could possibly have frightened Putin is by being unhinged enough to launch nukes at Russia. I mean he did want to nuke hurricanes over the Gulf of Mexico so it is possible I suppose. This is not a dumb war. And Trump made the nuclear option absolutely clear to North Korea. Putin would have chosen his words and actions very carefully if Trump were around.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xREMINDER: Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine to try to dig up dirt on Joe Biden. REMINDER That's because there was dirt to be found on The Big Guy. REMINDER: Trump told EU to start paying their NATO dues. REMINDER before that: Obama told the world the US won't be the world's policeman. EU should pay for their defence. Agreed. Correct and Trump doubled down on this with numerous policy pronouncements deliberately withdrawing America even further from the world stage. You can't have it both ways. And completely consistent with Trump's America First policy. The Europeans believed with Trump was gone, things would be back to normal and the US would pay for their security. Jokes on them. And you know the weird thing. Blokes like you and Rusty can't even bring yourself to say this is bad. Like what the fuck is wrong with your politics when you can't denounce something like this. I suppose Trump set the bar when he said 'there's very fine people on both sides' so there is that. Bang on. I have friends over there now, they are sending me videos of aircraft bombing outside their apartments, on my friends insta there is all dead people strewn across the street. So horrific. I suspect the russian people don't even want this. These alt right clowns acting like this is some sort of 'owning of the libs' Is Biden partly to blame? Probably but in no way would this not have happened under Trump. I agree 100% Biden has not helped the situation, but if Trump was in, he wouldn't even bring in sanctions. In lots of ways it's because of trump and these weak populist leaders that has given these despots the confidence to do what they want because they've sewn so much discord in the west And a prime example of that is the way Rusty and his loony mates are now making Biden the bad guy instead of Putin. It's really the only narrative they are capable of.
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Burztur
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+x+x+x+xREMINDER: Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine to try to dig up dirt on Joe Biden. REMINDER That's because there was dirt to be found on The Big Guy. REMINDER: Trump told EU to start paying their NATO dues. REMINDER before that: Obama told the world the US won't be the world's policeman. EU should pay for their defence. Agreed. Correct and Trump doubled down on this with numerous policy pronouncements deliberately withdrawing America even further from the world stage. You can't have it both ways. And completely consistent with Trump's America First policy. The Europeans believed with Trump was gone, things would be back to normal and the US would pay for their security. Jokes on them. Sound more like the Europeans fault than anything. Why rely on the US?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xREMINDER: Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine to try to dig up dirt on Joe Biden. REMINDER That's because there was dirt to be found on The Big Guy. REMINDER: Trump told EU to start paying their NATO dues. REMINDER before that: Obama told the world the US won't be the world's policeman. EU should pay for their defence. Agreed. Correct and Trump doubled down on this with numerous policy pronouncements deliberately withdrawing America even further from the world stage. You can't have it both ways. And completely consistent with Trump's America First policy. The Europeans believed with Trump was gone, things would be back to normal and the US would pay for their security. Jokes on them. And you know the weird thing. Blokes like you and Rusty can't even bring yourself to say this is bad. Like what the fuck is wrong with your politics when you can't denounce something like this. I suppose Trump set the bar when he said 'there's very fine people on both sides' so there is that. Bang on. I have friends over there now, they are sending me videos of aircraft bombing outside their apartments, on my friends insta there is all dead people strewn across the street. So horrific. I suspect the russian people don't even want this. These alt right clowns acting like this is some sort of 'owning of the libs' Is Biden partly to blame? Probably but in no way would this not have happened under Trump. I agree 100% Biden has not helped the situation, but if Trump was in, he wouldn't even bring in sanctions. In lots of ways it's because of trump and these weak populist leaders that has given these despots the confidence to do what they want because they've sewn so much discord in the west It wouldnt happen under Trump because Trump would use strong rhetoric and implied if not actual miltiary force to make Russia back down. Under Trump there’s a real risk or nuclear and/or military conflict whereas under Biden and Kamala there’s just weakness, sloppy sanctions and empty threats. There’s no way Trump would allow Putin to just waltz in and watch them take Ukraine, hence why Putin waited for a weak, pathetic SJW Democrat to become President before making his move. Why would Trump talk tough to Putin? He's never done that.
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Burztur
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xREMINDER: Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine to try to dig up dirt on Joe Biden. REMINDER That's because there was dirt to be found on The Big Guy. REMINDER: Trump told EU to start paying their NATO dues. REMINDER before that: Obama told the world the US won't be the world's policeman. EU should pay for their defence. Agreed. Correct and Trump doubled down on this with numerous policy pronouncements deliberately withdrawing America even further from the world stage. You can't have it both ways. And completely consistent with Trump's America First policy. The Europeans believed with Trump was gone, things would be back to normal and the US would pay for their security. Jokes on them. And you know the weird thing. Blokes like you and Rusty can't even bring yourself to say this is bad. Like what the fuck is wrong with your politics when you can't denounce something like this. I suppose Trump set the bar when he said 'there's very fine people on both sides' so there is that. Bang on. I have friends over there now, they are sending me videos of aircraft bombing outside their apartments, on my friends insta there is all dead people strewn across the street. So horrific. I suspect the russian people don't even want this. These alt right clowns acting like this is some sort of 'owning of the libs' Is Biden partly to blame? Probably but in no way would this not have happened under Trump. I agree 100% Biden has not helped the situation, but if Trump was in, he wouldn't even bring in sanctions. In lots of ways it's because of trump and these weak populist leaders that has given these despots the confidence to do what they want because they've sewn so much discord in the west It wouldnt happen under Trump because Trump would use strong rhetoric and implied if not actual miltiary force to make Russia back down. Under Trump there’s a real risk or nuclear and/or military conflict whereas under Biden and Kamala there’s just weakness, sloppy sanctions and empty threats. There’s no way Trump would allow Putin to just waltz in and watch them take Ukraine, hence why Putin waited for a weak, pathetic SJW Democrat to become President before making his move. Trump repeatedly said, REPEATEDLY, that the US would not be dragged into 'dumb wars'. The only way Trump could possibly have frightened Putin is by being unhinged enough to launch nukes at Russia. I mean he did want to nuke hurricanes over the Gulf of Mexico so it is possible I suppose. US invading Afghanistan = dumb war. Russia invading Ukraine = dumb Democrats. Part of having a military and nuclear arsenal is being prepared to use it as a means of deterrence. Do you think Putin might think twice about invading Ukraine if he thought the US *might* use their military to push back, which could quickly and easily escalate into nuclear confrontation? Fuck no, he isn't suicidal, but given the US President explicitly stated that he wouldn't put forces in Ukraine, it was basically a green light for Putin to invade without incurring much downside. The consequences of this? A stronger more dangerous Russia, and maniacal dictator with the wind in his sails to do whatever the fuck he wants, Xi will be rubbing his hands with glee knowing US will do diddly squat when China takes Taiwan, and ultimately this all leads to an even greater specter of nuclear conflict. This is all Biden's fault. What a cxnt. Wow. WTF
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xREMINDER: Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine to try to dig up dirt on Joe Biden. REMINDER That's because there was dirt to be found on The Big Guy. REMINDER: Trump told EU to start paying their NATO dues. REMINDER before that: Obama told the world the US won't be the world's policeman. EU should pay for their defence. Agreed. Correct and Trump doubled down on this with numerous policy pronouncements deliberately withdrawing America even further from the world stage. You can't have it both ways. And completely consistent with Trump's America First policy. The Europeans believed with Trump was gone, things would be back to normal and the US would pay for their security. Jokes on them. And you know the weird thing. Blokes like you and Rusty can't even bring yourself to say this is bad. Like what the fuck is wrong with your politics when you can't denounce something like this. I suppose Trump set the bar when he said 'there's very fine people on both sides' so there is that. Bang on. I have friends over there now, they are sending me videos of aircraft bombing outside their apartments, on my friends insta there is all dead people strewn across the street. So horrific. I suspect the russian people don't even want this. These alt right clowns acting like this is some sort of 'owning of the libs' Is Biden partly to blame? Probably but in no way would this not have happened under Trump. I agree 100% Biden has not helped the situation, but if Trump was in, he wouldn't even bring in sanctions. In lots of ways it's because of trump and these weak populist leaders that has given these despots the confidence to do what they want because they've sewn so much discord in the west It wouldnt happen under Trump because Trump would use strong rhetoric and implied if not actual miltiary force to make Russia back down. Under Trump there’s a real risk or nuclear and/or military conflict whereas under Biden and Kamala there’s just weakness, sloppy sanctions and empty threats. There’s no way Trump would allow Putin to just waltz in and watch them take Ukraine, hence why Putin waited for a weak, pathetic SJW Democrat to become President before making his move. Why would Trump talk tough to Putin? He's never done that. He had no reason to
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Enzo Bearzot
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+x+x+x+x+xREMINDER: Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine to try to dig up dirt on Joe Biden. REMINDER That's because there was dirt to be found on The Big Guy. REMINDER: Trump told EU to start paying their NATO dues. REMINDER before that: Obama told the world the US won't be the world's policeman. EU should pay for their defence. Agreed. Correct and Trump doubled down on this with numerous policy pronouncements deliberately withdrawing America even further from the world stage. You can't have it both ways. And completely consistent with Trump's America First policy. The Europeans believed with Trump was gone, things would be back to normal and the US would pay for their security. Jokes on them. Sound more like the Europeans fault than anything. Why rely on the US? Why risk your own money and sons and daughters when you don't have to? The Europeans weren't even paying their agreed NATO contributions. Look at the faces of the Europeans when Trump hits them with the news their free-loading is about to end. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_KrwW1Knms
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roosty
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xREMINDER: Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine to try to dig up dirt on Joe Biden. REMINDER That's because there was dirt to be found on The Big Guy. REMINDER: Trump told EU to start paying their NATO dues. REMINDER before that: Obama told the world the US won't be the world's policeman. EU should pay for their defence. Agreed. Correct and Trump doubled down on this with numerous policy pronouncements deliberately withdrawing America even further from the world stage. You can't have it both ways. And completely consistent with Trump's America First policy. The Europeans believed with Trump was gone, things would be back to normal and the US would pay for their security. Jokes on them. And you know the weird thing. Blokes like you and Rusty can't even bring yourself to say this is bad. Like what the fuck is wrong with your politics when you can't denounce something like this. I suppose Trump set the bar when he said 'there's very fine people on both sides' so there is that. Bang on. I have friends over there now, they are sending me videos of aircraft bombing outside their apartments, on my friends insta there is all dead people strewn across the street. So horrific. I suspect the russian people don't even want this. These alt right clowns acting like this is some sort of 'owning of the libs' Is Biden partly to blame? Probably but in no way would this not have happened under Trump. I agree 100% Biden has not helped the situation, but if Trump was in, he wouldn't even bring in sanctions. In lots of ways it's because of trump and these weak populist leaders that has given these despots the confidence to do what they want because they've sewn so much discord in the west It wouldnt happen under Trump because Trump would use strong rhetoric and implied if not actual miltiary force to make Russia back down. Under Trump there’s a real risk or nuclear and/or military conflict whereas under Biden and Kamala there’s just weakness, sloppy sanctions and empty threats. There’s no way Trump would allow Putin to just waltz in and watch them take Ukraine, hence why Putin waited for a weak, pathetic SJW Democrat to become President before making his move. Trump repeatedly said, REPEATEDLY, that the US would not be dragged into 'dumb wars'. The only way Trump could possibly have frightened Putin is by being unhinged enough to launch nukes at Russia. I mean he did want to nuke hurricanes over the Gulf of Mexico so it is possible I suppose. US invading Afghanistan = dumb war. Russia invading Ukraine = dumb Democrats. Part of having a military and nuclear arsenal is being prepared to use it as a means of deterrence. Do you think Putin might think twice about invading Ukraine if he thought the US *might* use their military to push back, which could quickly and easily escalate into nuclear confrontation? Fuck no, he isn't suicidal, but given the US President explicitly stated that he wouldn't put forces in Ukraine, it was basically a green light for Putin to invade without incurring much downside. The consequences of this? A stronger more dangerous Russia, and maniacal dictator with the wind in his sails to do whatever the fuck he wants, Xi will be rubbing his hands with glee knowing US will do diddly squat when China takes Taiwan, and ultimately this all leads to an even greater specter of nuclear conflict. This is all Biden's fault. What a cxnt. Wow. WTF Of course it is. Biden rolled over and let Putin invade Europe. He even admits now that sanctions were never intended as a deterrent, which means he had no intention or plan to stop Russia. He’s signalled to his adversaries that America doesn’t views its own sanctions as a deterrent and won’t stand up much smaller nations with nuclear capability. The scary thing is the USA does have an obligation to protect Taiwan, and given Biden’s mishandling, misreading and weakness shown in the situation you’d have to think China is willing to have a serious crack at Taiwan. If that happens then the threat of nuclear war becomes very tangible. If China miscalculates that USA won’t defend Taiwan.. but it does it then it’s BOOM time baby. If this happens then the turning point will be remembered (supposing there are any people left) as when Biden surrendered to Russia. The guy is a complete disaster.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xREMINDER: Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine to try to dig up dirt on Joe Biden. REMINDER That's because there was dirt to be found on The Big Guy. REMINDER: Trump told EU to start paying their NATO dues. REMINDER before that: Obama told the world the US won't be the world's policeman. EU should pay for their defence. Agreed. Correct and Trump doubled down on this with numerous policy pronouncements deliberately withdrawing America even further from the world stage. You can't have it both ways. And completely consistent with Trump's America First policy. The Europeans believed with Trump was gone, things would be back to normal and the US would pay for their security. Jokes on them. And you know the weird thing. Blokes like you and Rusty can't even bring yourself to say this is bad. Like what the fuck is wrong with your politics when you can't denounce something like this. I suppose Trump set the bar when he said 'there's very fine people on both sides' so there is that. Bang on. I have friends over there now, they are sending me videos of aircraft bombing outside their apartments, on my friends insta there is all dead people strewn across the street. So horrific. I suspect the russian people don't even want this. These alt right clowns acting like this is some sort of 'owning of the libs' Is Biden partly to blame? Probably but in no way would this not have happened under Trump. I agree 100% Biden has not helped the situation, but if Trump was in, he wouldn't even bring in sanctions. In lots of ways it's because of trump and these weak populist leaders that has given these despots the confidence to do what they want because they've sewn so much discord in the west It wouldnt happen under Trump because Trump would use strong rhetoric and implied if not actual miltiary force to make Russia back down. Under Trump there’s a real risk or nuclear and/or military conflict whereas under Biden and Kamala there’s just weakness, sloppy sanctions and empty threats. There’s no way Trump would allow Putin to just waltz in and watch them take Ukraine, hence why Putin waited for a weak, pathetic SJW Democrat to become President before making his move. Trump repeatedly said, REPEATEDLY, that the US would not be dragged into 'dumb wars'. The only way Trump could possibly have frightened Putin is by being unhinged enough to launch nukes at Russia. I mean he did want to nuke hurricanes over the Gulf of Mexico so it is possible I suppose. This is not a dumb war. And Trump made the nuclear option absolutely clear to North Korea. Putin would have chosen his words and actions very carefully if Trump were around. Bit different threatening a country barely able to launch a missile all the way to the US vs a country that could send 5000 to anywhere in the US.
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Burztur
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+x+x+x+x+x+xREMINDER: Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine to try to dig up dirt on Joe Biden. REMINDER That's because there was dirt to be found on The Big Guy. REMINDER: Trump told EU to start paying their NATO dues. REMINDER before that: Obama told the world the US won't be the world's policeman. EU should pay for their defence. Agreed. Correct and Trump doubled down on this with numerous policy pronouncements deliberately withdrawing America even further from the world stage. You can't have it both ways. And completely consistent with Trump's America First policy. The Europeans believed with Trump was gone, things would be back to normal and the US would pay for their security. Jokes on them. Sound more like the Europeans fault than anything. Why rely on the US? Why risk your own money and sons and daughters when you don't have to? The Europeans weren't even paying their agreed NATO contributions. Look at the faces of the Europeans when Trump hits them with the news their free-loading is about to end. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_KrwW1Knms That's the point. The Europeans got complacent and were reliant on the US. How does it make it Biden's fault?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xREMINDER: Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine to try to dig up dirt on Joe Biden. REMINDER That's because there was dirt to be found on The Big Guy. REMINDER: Trump told EU to start paying their NATO dues. REMINDER before that: Obama told the world the US won't be the world's policeman. EU should pay for their defence. Agreed. Correct and Trump doubled down on this with numerous policy pronouncements deliberately withdrawing America even further from the world stage. You can't have it both ways. And completely consistent with Trump's America First policy. The Europeans believed with Trump was gone, things would be back to normal and the US would pay for their security. Jokes on them. And you know the weird thing. Blokes like you and Rusty can't even bring yourself to say this is bad. Like what the fuck is wrong with your politics when you can't denounce something like this. I suppose Trump set the bar when he said 'there's very fine people on both sides' so there is that. Bang on. I have friends over there now, they are sending me videos of aircraft bombing outside their apartments, on my friends insta there is all dead people strewn across the street. So horrific. I suspect the russian people don't even want this. These alt right clowns acting like this is some sort of 'owning of the libs' Is Biden partly to blame? Probably but in no way would this not have happened under Trump. I agree 100% Biden has not helped the situation, but if Trump was in, he wouldn't even bring in sanctions. In lots of ways it's because of trump and these weak populist leaders that has given these despots the confidence to do what they want because they've sewn so much discord in the west It wouldnt happen under Trump because Trump would use strong rhetoric and implied if not actual miltiary force to make Russia back down. Under Trump there’s a real risk or nuclear and/or military conflict whereas under Biden and Kamala there’s just weakness, sloppy sanctions and empty threats. There’s no way Trump would allow Putin to just waltz in and watch them take Ukraine, hence why Putin waited for a weak, pathetic SJW Democrat to become President before making his move. Why would Trump talk tough to Putin? He's never done that. He had no reason to Of course he needed to. According to your theory, he would need to talk tough to keep Putin in check. So now the situation is Trump has never talked tough to Putin, and Biden has done the same.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xREMINDER: Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine to try to dig up dirt on Joe Biden. REMINDER That's because there was dirt to be found on The Big Guy. REMINDER: Trump told EU to start paying their NATO dues. REMINDER before that: Obama told the world the US won't be the world's policeman. EU should pay for their defence. Agreed. Correct and Trump doubled down on this with numerous policy pronouncements deliberately withdrawing America even further from the world stage. You can't have it both ways. And completely consistent with Trump's America First policy. The Europeans believed with Trump was gone, things would be back to normal and the US would pay for their security. Jokes on them. And you know the weird thing. Blokes like you and Rusty can't even bring yourself to say this is bad. Like what the fuck is wrong with your politics when you can't denounce something like this. I suppose Trump set the bar when he said 'there's very fine people on both sides' so there is that. Bang on. I have friends over there now, they are sending me videos of aircraft bombing outside their apartments, on my friends insta there is all dead people strewn across the street. So horrific. I suspect the russian people don't even want this. These alt right clowns acting like this is some sort of 'owning of the libs' Is Biden partly to blame? Probably but in no way would this not have happened under Trump. I agree 100% Biden has not helped the situation, but if Trump was in, he wouldn't even bring in sanctions. In lots of ways it's because of trump and these weak populist leaders that has given these despots the confidence to do what they want because they've sewn so much discord in the west It wouldnt happen under Trump because Trump would use strong rhetoric and implied if not actual miltiary force to make Russia back down. Under Trump there’s a real risk or nuclear and/or military conflict whereas under Biden and Kamala there’s just weakness, sloppy sanctions and empty threats. There’s no way Trump would allow Putin to just waltz in and watch them take Ukraine, hence why Putin waited for a weak, pathetic SJW Democrat to become President before making his move. Trump repeatedly said, REPEATEDLY, that the US would not be dragged into 'dumb wars'. The only way Trump could possibly have frightened Putin is by being unhinged enough to launch nukes at Russia. I mean he did want to nuke hurricanes over the Gulf of Mexico so it is possible I suppose. US invading Afghanistan = dumb war. Russia invading Ukraine = dumb Democrats. Part of having a military and nuclear arsenal is being prepared to use it as a means of deterrence. Do you think Putin might think twice about invading Ukraine if he thought the US *might* use their military to push back, which could quickly and easily escalate into nuclear confrontation? Fuck no, he isn't suicidal, but given the US President explicitly stated that he wouldn't put forces in Ukraine, it was basically a green light for Putin to invade without incurring much downside. The consequences of this? A stronger more dangerous Russia, and maniacal dictator with the wind in his sails to do whatever the fuck he wants, Xi will be rubbing his hands with glee knowing US will do diddly squat when China takes Taiwan, and ultimately this all leads to an even greater specter of nuclear conflict. This is all Biden's fault. What a cxnt. Wow. WTF Of course it is. Biden rolled over and let Putin invade Europe. He even admits now that sanctions were never intended as a deterrent, which means he had no intention or plan to stop Russia. He’s signalled to his adversaries that America doesn’t views its own sanctions as a deterrent and won’t stand up much smaller nations with nuclear capability. The scary thing is the USA does have an obligation to protect Taiwan, and given Biden’s mishandling, misreading and weakness shown in the situation you’d have to think China is willing to have a serious crack at Taiwan. If that happens then the threat of nuclear war becomes very tangible. If China miscalculates that USA won’t defend Taiwan.. but it does it then it’s BOOM time baby. If this happens then the turning point will be remembered (supposing there are any people left) as when Biden surrendered to Russia. The guy is a complete disaster. So what if none of that happens and Putin fails with his invasion of Ukraine? Biden is a genius for preserving US assets?
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+xWhat's the best TV channel for coverage ? Tik tok of course, social meeja
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xREMINDER: Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine to try to dig up dirt on Joe Biden. REMINDER That's because there was dirt to be found on The Big Guy. REMINDER: Trump told EU to start paying their NATO dues. REMINDER before that: Obama told the world the US won't be the world's policeman. EU should pay for their defence. Agreed. Correct and Trump doubled down on this with numerous policy pronouncements deliberately withdrawing America even further from the world stage. You can't have it both ways. And completely consistent with Trump's America First policy. The Europeans believed with Trump was gone, things would be back to normal and the US would pay for their security. Jokes on them. Sound more like the Europeans fault than anything. Why rely on the US? Why risk your own money and sons and daughters when you don't have to? The Europeans weren't even paying their agreed NATO contributions. Look at the faces of the Europeans when Trump hits them with the news their free-loading is about to end. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_KrwW1Knms That's the point. The Europeans got complacent and were reliant on the US. How does it make it Biden's fault? When Biden and the Democrats arrived the first thing they did was to assure the Europeans that they would not be continuing Trumps America First foreign policy. A sigh of relief from the Europeans-business as usual then. That's on Biden and the Democrats. Trump literally listed Russia as one of the threats to NATO in that speech.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xREMINDER: Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine to try to dig up dirt on Joe Biden. REMINDER That's because there was dirt to be found on The Big Guy. REMINDER: Trump told EU to start paying their NATO dues. REMINDER before that: Obama told the world the US won't be the world's policeman. EU should pay for their defence. Agreed. Correct and Trump doubled down on this with numerous policy pronouncements deliberately withdrawing America even further from the world stage. You can't have it both ways. And completely consistent with Trump's America First policy. The Europeans believed with Trump was gone, things would be back to normal and the US would pay for their security. Jokes on them. And you know the weird thing. Blokes like you and Rusty can't even bring yourself to say this is bad. Like what the fuck is wrong with your politics when you can't denounce something like this. I suppose Trump set the bar when he said 'there's very fine people on both sides' so there is that. Bang on. I have friends over there now, they are sending me videos of aircraft bombing outside their apartments, on my friends insta there is all dead people strewn across the street. So horrific. I suspect the russian people don't even want this. These alt right clowns acting like this is some sort of 'owning of the libs' Is Biden partly to blame? Probably but in no way would this not have happened under Trump. I agree 100% Biden has not helped the situation, but if Trump was in, he wouldn't even bring in sanctions. In lots of ways it's because of trump and these weak populist leaders that has given these despots the confidence to do what they want because they've sewn so much discord in the west It wouldnt happen under Trump because Trump would use strong rhetoric and implied if not actual miltiary force to make Russia back down. Under Trump there’s a real risk or nuclear and/or military conflict whereas under Biden and Kamala there’s just weakness, sloppy sanctions and empty threats. There’s no way Trump would allow Putin to just waltz in and watch them take Ukraine, hence why Putin waited for a weak, pathetic SJW Democrat to become President before making his move. Trump repeatedly said, REPEATEDLY, that the US would not be dragged into 'dumb wars'. The only way Trump could possibly have frightened Putin is by being unhinged enough to launch nukes at Russia. I mean he did want to nuke hurricanes over the Gulf of Mexico so it is possible I suppose. US invading Afghanistan = dumb war. Russia invading Ukraine = dumb Democrats. Part of having a military and nuclear arsenal is being prepared to use it as a means of deterrence. Do you think Putin might think twice about invading Ukraine if he thought the US *might* use their military to push back, which could quickly and easily escalate into nuclear confrontation? Fuck no, he isn't suicidal, but given the US President explicitly stated that he wouldn't put forces in Ukraine, it was basically a green light for Putin to invade without incurring much downside. The consequences of this? A stronger more dangerous Russia, and maniacal dictator with the wind in his sails to do whatever the fuck he wants, Xi will be rubbing his hands with glee knowing US will do diddly squat when China takes Taiwan, and ultimately this all leads to an even greater specter of nuclear conflict. This is all Biden's fault. What a cxnt. Wow. WTF Of course it is. Biden rolled over and let Putin invade Europe. He even admits now that sanctions were never intended as a deterrent, which means he had no intention or plan to stop Russia. He’s signalled to his adversaries that America doesn’t views its own sanctions as a deterrent and won’t stand up much smaller nations with nuclear capability. The scary thing is the USA does have an obligation to protect Taiwan, and given Biden’s mishandling, misreading and weakness shown in the situation you’d have to think China is willing to have a serious crack at Taiwan. If that happens then the threat of nuclear war becomes very tangible. If China miscalculates that USA won’t defend Taiwan.. but it does it then it’s BOOM time baby. If this happens then the turning point will be remembered (supposing there are any people left) as when Biden surrendered to Russia. The guy is a complete disaster. So what if none of that happens and Putin fails with his invasion of Ukraine? Biden is a genius for preserving US assets? Putin won't fail. He will oust Ukraine's pro-NATO government, then install a pro-Moscow regime and claim he liberated the Ukrainians. Whether he pushes further West is the only question. The worst thing about it for Ukraine is that the US, the UK and Russia convinced Ukraine to dismantle its nukes in exchange for those nations coming to their aid in a military conflict.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xREMINDER: Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine to try to dig up dirt on Joe Biden. REMINDER That's because there was dirt to be found on The Big Guy. REMINDER: Trump told EU to start paying their NATO dues. REMINDER before that: Obama told the world the US won't be the world's policeman. EU should pay for their defence. Agreed. Correct and Trump doubled down on this with numerous policy pronouncements deliberately withdrawing America even further from the world stage. You can't have it both ways. And completely consistent with Trump's America First policy. The Europeans believed with Trump was gone, things would be back to normal and the US would pay for their security. Jokes on them. And you know the weird thing. Blokes like you and Rusty can't even bring yourself to say this is bad. Like what the fuck is wrong with your politics when you can't denounce something like this. I suppose Trump set the bar when he said 'there's very fine people on both sides' so there is that. Bang on. I have friends over there now, they are sending me videos of aircraft bombing outside their apartments, on my friends insta there is all dead people strewn across the street. So horrific. I suspect the russian people don't even want this. These alt right clowns acting like this is some sort of 'owning of the libs' Is Biden partly to blame? Probably but in no way would this not have happened under Trump. I agree 100% Biden has not helped the situation, but if Trump was in, he wouldn't even bring in sanctions. In lots of ways it's because of trump and these weak populist leaders that has given these despots the confidence to do what they want because they've sewn so much discord in the west It wouldnt happen under Trump because Trump would use strong rhetoric and implied if not actual miltiary force to make Russia back down. Under Trump there’s a real risk or nuclear and/or military conflict whereas under Biden and Kamala there’s just weakness, sloppy sanctions and empty threats. There’s no way Trump would allow Putin to just waltz in and watch them take Ukraine, hence why Putin waited for a weak, pathetic SJW Democrat to become President before making his move. Why would Trump talk tough to Putin? He's never done that. He had no reason to Of course he needed to. According to your theory, he would need to talk tough to keep Putin in check. So now the situation is Trump has never talked tough to Putin, and Biden has done the same. Trump didn't need to talk tough because it was obvious to Putin that Trump does shit not even he can predict. Not just talk about it. But actually do it. The Iranian general was a warning to any despot- we'll get you and you won't know how, when, or where. Action. Not words.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xREMINDER: Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine to try to dig up dirt on Joe Biden. REMINDER That's because there was dirt to be found on The Big Guy. REMINDER: Trump told EU to start paying their NATO dues. REMINDER before that: Obama told the world the US won't be the world's policeman. EU should pay for their defence. Agreed. Correct and Trump doubled down on this with numerous policy pronouncements deliberately withdrawing America even further from the world stage. You can't have it both ways. And completely consistent with Trump's America First policy. The Europeans believed with Trump was gone, things would be back to normal and the US would pay for their security. Jokes on them. Sound more like the Europeans fault than anything. Why rely on the US? Why risk your own money and sons and daughters when you don't have to? The Europeans weren't even paying their agreed NATO contributions. Look at the faces of the Europeans when Trump hits them with the news their free-loading is about to end. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_KrwW1Knms That's the point. The Europeans got complacent and were reliant on the US. How does it make it Biden's fault? When Biden and the Democrats arrived the first thing they did was to assure the Europeans that they would not be continuing Trumps America First foreign policy. A sigh of relief from the Europeans-business as usual then. That's on Biden and the Democrats. Trump literally listed Russia as one of the threats to NATO in that speech. I thought Trump never took a hard line against NATO? End of the day, why do we expect the US to do anything and everything? If Trump was still president and this happened now, I wouldn't blame him. It's just silly to say it's on Biden.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xREMINDER: Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine to try to dig up dirt on Joe Biden. REMINDER That's because there was dirt to be found on The Big Guy. REMINDER: Trump told EU to start paying their NATO dues. REMINDER before that: Obama told the world the US won't be the world's policeman. EU should pay for their defence. Agreed. Correct and Trump doubled down on this with numerous policy pronouncements deliberately withdrawing America even further from the world stage. You can't have it both ways. And completely consistent with Trump's America First policy. The Europeans believed with Trump was gone, things would be back to normal and the US would pay for their security. Jokes on them. And you know the weird thing. Blokes like you and Rusty can't even bring yourself to say this is bad. Like what the fuck is wrong with your politics when you can't denounce something like this. I suppose Trump set the bar when he said 'there's very fine people on both sides' so there is that. Bang on. I have friends over there now, they are sending me videos of aircraft bombing outside their apartments, on my friends insta there is all dead people strewn across the street. So horrific. I suspect the russian people don't even want this. These alt right clowns acting like this is some sort of 'owning of the libs' Is Biden partly to blame? Probably but in no way would this not have happened under Trump. I agree 100% Biden has not helped the situation, but if Trump was in, he wouldn't even bring in sanctions. In lots of ways it's because of trump and these weak populist leaders that has given these despots the confidence to do what they want because they've sewn so much discord in the west It wouldnt happen under Trump because Trump would use strong rhetoric and implied if not actual miltiary force to make Russia back down. Under Trump there’s a real risk or nuclear and/or military conflict whereas under Biden and Kamala there’s just weakness, sloppy sanctions and empty threats. There’s no way Trump would allow Putin to just waltz in and watch them take Ukraine, hence why Putin waited for a weak, pathetic SJW Democrat to become President before making his move. Trump repeatedly said, REPEATEDLY, that the US would not be dragged into 'dumb wars'. The only way Trump could possibly have frightened Putin is by being unhinged enough to launch nukes at Russia. I mean he did want to nuke hurricanes over the Gulf of Mexico so it is possible I suppose. US invading Afghanistan = dumb war. Russia invading Ukraine = dumb Democrats. Part of having a military and nuclear arsenal is being prepared to use it as a means of deterrence. Do you think Putin might think twice about invading Ukraine if he thought the US *might* use their military to push back, which could quickly and easily escalate into nuclear confrontation? Fuck no, he isn't suicidal, but given the US President explicitly stated that he wouldn't put forces in Ukraine, it was basically a green light for Putin to invade without incurring much downside. The consequences of this? A stronger more dangerous Russia, and maniacal dictator with the wind in his sails to do whatever the fuck he wants, Xi will be rubbing his hands with glee knowing US will do diddly squat when China takes Taiwan, and ultimately this all leads to an even greater specter of nuclear conflict. This is all Biden's fault. What a cxnt. Wow. WTF Of course it is. Biden rolled over and let Putin invade Europe. He even admits now that sanctions were never intended as a deterrent, which means he had no intention or plan to stop Russia. He’s signalled to his adversaries that America doesn’t views its own sanctions as a deterrent and won’t stand up much smaller nations with nuclear capability. The scary thing is the USA does have an obligation to protect Taiwan, and given Biden’s mishandling, misreading and weakness shown in the situation you’d have to think China is willing to have a serious crack at Taiwan. If that happens then the threat of nuclear war becomes very tangible. If China miscalculates that USA won’t defend Taiwan.. but it does it then it’s BOOM time baby. If this happens then the turning point will be remembered (supposing there are any people left) as when Biden surrendered to Russia. The guy is a complete disaster. So what if none of that happens and Putin fails with his invasion of Ukraine? Biden is a genius for preserving US assets? Putin won't fail. He will oust Ukraine's pro-NATO government, then install a pro-Moscow regime and claim he liberated the Ukrainians. Whether he pushes further West is the only question. The worst thing about it for Ukraine is that the US, the UK and Russia convinced Ukraine to dismantle its nukes in exchange for those nations coming to their aid in a military conflict. Lots of unknowns. The first guess was he was only going after those eastern states, but seems like he went all in. Not sure how well or how long the Ukrainian resistance will be. Either way, not good news for the world.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xREMINDER: Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine to try to dig up dirt on Joe Biden. REMINDER That's because there was dirt to be found on The Big Guy. REMINDER: Trump told EU to start paying their NATO dues. REMINDER before that: Obama told the world the US won't be the world's policeman. EU should pay for their defence. Agreed. Correct and Trump doubled down on this with numerous policy pronouncements deliberately withdrawing America even further from the world stage. You can't have it both ways. And completely consistent with Trump's America First policy. The Europeans believed with Trump was gone, things would be back to normal and the US would pay for their security. Jokes on them. Sound more like the Europeans fault than anything. Why rely on the US? Why risk your own money and sons and daughters when you don't have to? The Europeans weren't even paying their agreed NATO contributions. Look at the faces of the Europeans when Trump hits them with the news their free-loading is about to end. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_KrwW1Knms That's the point. The Europeans got complacent and were reliant on the US. How does it make it Biden's fault? When Biden and the Democrats arrived the first thing they did was to assure the Europeans that they would not be continuing Trumps America First foreign policy. A sigh of relief from the Europeans-business as usual then. That's on Biden and the Democrats. Trump literally listed Russia as one of the threats to NATO in that speech. I thought Trump never took a hard line against NATO? End of the day, why do we expect the US to do anything and everything? If Trump was still president and this happened now, I wouldn't blame him. It's just silly to say it's on Biden. I don't think it would matter if Biden acted differently, Rusty and Enzo would be be blaming him all the same. Rusty, in particular, is incapable of forming his own opinion on anything beyond whatever headline Sky News gives him to copy/paste here. The reality is things go back to 2014 so solely blaming either Trump or Biden is ridiculous.
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“American Trumpists and the Chinese Communist Party aside, it seems no one in the world supports or even *understands* what the hell Putin is doing—including his own ministers and members of his Duma.”
Birds of a feather.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xREMINDER: Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine to try to dig up dirt on Joe Biden. REMINDER That's because there was dirt to be found on The Big Guy. REMINDER: Trump told EU to start paying their NATO dues. REMINDER before that: Obama told the world the US won't be the world's policeman. EU should pay for their defence. Agreed. Correct and Trump doubled down on this with numerous policy pronouncements deliberately withdrawing America even further from the world stage. You can't have it both ways. And completely consistent with Trump's America First policy. The Europeans believed with Trump was gone, things would be back to normal and the US would pay for their security. Jokes on them. And you know the weird thing. Blokes like you and Rusty can't even bring yourself to say this is bad. Like what the fuck is wrong with your politics when you can't denounce something like this. I suppose Trump set the bar when he said 'there's very fine people on both sides' so there is that. Bang on. I have friends over there now, they are sending me videos of aircraft bombing outside their apartments, on my friends insta there is all dead people strewn across the street. So horrific. I suspect the russian people don't even want this. These alt right clowns acting like this is some sort of 'owning of the libs' Is Biden partly to blame? Probably but in no way would this not have happened under Trump. I agree 100% Biden has not helped the situation, but if Trump was in, he wouldn't even bring in sanctions. In lots of ways it's because of trump and these weak populist leaders that has given these despots the confidence to do what they want because they've sewn so much discord in the west It wouldnt happen under Trump because Trump would use strong rhetoric and implied if not actual miltiary force to make Russia back down. Under Trump there’s a real risk or nuclear and/or military conflict whereas under Biden and Kamala there’s just weakness, sloppy sanctions and empty threats. There’s no way Trump would allow Putin to just waltz in and watch them take Ukraine, hence why Putin waited for a weak, pathetic SJW Democrat to become President before making his move. Why would Trump talk tough to Putin? He's never done that. He had no reason to Of course he needed to. According to your theory, he would need to talk tough to keep Putin in check. So now the situation is Trump has never talked tough to Putin, and Biden has done the same. Im not sure what you mean. You need to pick your moment to talk tough, simply tough talk for the sake of it achieves nothing, Obviously the moment to talk tough to Putin was when he started his military build up along the Ukrainian border, at this point Biden was President , not Donald.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xREMINDER: Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine to try to dig up dirt on Joe Biden. REMINDER That's because there was dirt to be found on The Big Guy. REMINDER: Trump told EU to start paying their NATO dues. REMINDER before that: Obama told the world the US won't be the world's policeman. EU should pay for their defence. Agreed. Correct and Trump doubled down on this with numerous policy pronouncements deliberately withdrawing America even further from the world stage. You can't have it both ways. And completely consistent with Trump's America First policy. The Europeans believed with Trump was gone, things would be back to normal and the US would pay for their security. Jokes on them. Sound more like the Europeans fault than anything. Why rely on the US? Why risk your own money and sons and daughters when you don't have to? The Europeans weren't even paying their agreed NATO contributions. Look at the faces of the Europeans when Trump hits them with the news their free-loading is about to end. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_KrwW1Knms That's the point. The Europeans got complacent and were reliant on the US. How does it make it Biden's fault? When Biden and the Democrats arrived the first thing they did was to assure the Europeans that they would not be continuing Trumps America First foreign policy. A sigh of relief from the Europeans-business as usual then. That's on Biden and the Democrats. Trump literally listed Russia as one of the threats to NATO in that speech. I thought Trump never took a hard line against NATO? End of the day, why do we expect the US to do anything and everything? If Trump was still president and this happened now, I wouldn't blame him. It's just silly to say it's on Biden. I don't think it would matter if Biden acted differently, Rusty and Enzo would be be blaming him all the same. Rusty, in particular, is incapable of forming his own opinion on anything beyond whatever headline Sky News gives him to copy/paste here. The reality is things go back to 2014 so solely blaming either Trump or Biden is ridiculous. When Biden got elected he promised he was going to restore global peace and rebuild America’s alliances and reputation. He also promised he would go “toe to toe” with Putin. So far everything he’s touched has turned to shit and the world is more chaotic and vulnerable to nuclear confrontation than its ever been. You cant campaign on a promise, then have that promise kick you in the butt, then turn around and blame the other guy. Ultimately Biden’s job was to diffuse the situation and he’s failed miserably at doing that, so it’s his burden to bear.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xREMINDER: Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine to try to dig up dirt on Joe Biden. REMINDER That's because there was dirt to be found on The Big Guy. REMINDER: Trump told EU to start paying their NATO dues. REMINDER before that: Obama told the world the US won't be the world's policeman. EU should pay for their defence. Agreed. Correct and Trump doubled down on this with numerous policy pronouncements deliberately withdrawing America even further from the world stage. You can't have it both ways. And completely consistent with Trump's America First policy. The Europeans believed with Trump was gone, things would be back to normal and the US would pay for their security. Jokes on them. And you know the weird thing. Blokes like you and Rusty can't even bring yourself to say this is bad. Like what the fuck is wrong with your politics when you can't denounce something like this. I suppose Trump set the bar when he said 'there's very fine people on both sides' so there is that. Bang on. I have friends over there now, they are sending me videos of aircraft bombing outside their apartments, on my friends insta there is all dead people strewn across the street. So horrific. I suspect the russian people don't even want this. These alt right clowns acting like this is some sort of 'owning of the libs' Is Biden partly to blame? Probably but in no way would this not have happened under Trump. I agree 100% Biden has not helped the situation, but if Trump was in, he wouldn't even bring in sanctions. In lots of ways it's because of trump and these weak populist leaders that has given these despots the confidence to do what they want because they've sewn so much discord in the west It wouldnt happen under Trump because Trump would use strong rhetoric and implied if not actual miltiary force to make Russia back down. Under Trump there’s a real risk or nuclear and/or military conflict whereas under Biden and Kamala there’s just weakness, sloppy sanctions and empty threats. There’s no way Trump would allow Putin to just waltz in and watch them take Ukraine, hence why Putin waited for a weak, pathetic SJW Democrat to become President before making his move. Why would Trump talk tough to Putin? He's never done that. He had no reason to Of course he needed to. According to your theory, he would need to talk tough to keep Putin in check. So now the situation is Trump has never talked tough to Putin, and Biden has done the same. Im not sure what you mean. You need to pick your moment to talk tough, simply tough talk for the sake of it achieves nothing, Obviously the moment to talk tough to Putin was when he started his military build up along the Ukrainian border, at this point Biden was President , not Donald. Remember when Russia put bounties on US troops in Syria? Should have stood up then. But the bottom line for me is that we are expecting the US to police the world. Why? They shouldn't.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xREMINDER: Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine to try to dig up dirt on Joe Biden. REMINDER That's because there was dirt to be found on The Big Guy. REMINDER: Trump told EU to start paying their NATO dues. REMINDER before that: Obama told the world the US won't be the world's policeman. EU should pay for their defence. Agreed. Correct and Trump doubled down on this with numerous policy pronouncements deliberately withdrawing America even further from the world stage. You can't have it both ways. And completely consistent with Trump's America First policy. The Europeans believed with Trump was gone, things would be back to normal and the US would pay for their security. Jokes on them. And you know the weird thing. Blokes like you and Rusty can't even bring yourself to say this is bad. Like what the fuck is wrong with your politics when you can't denounce something like this. I suppose Trump set the bar when he said 'there's very fine people on both sides' so there is that. Bang on. I have friends over there now, they are sending me videos of aircraft bombing outside their apartments, on my friends insta there is all dead people strewn across the street. So horrific. I suspect the russian people don't even want this. These alt right clowns acting like this is some sort of 'owning of the libs' Is Biden partly to blame? Probably but in no way would this not have happened under Trump. I agree 100% Biden has not helped the situation, but if Trump was in, he wouldn't even bring in sanctions. In lots of ways it's because of trump and these weak populist leaders that has given these despots the confidence to do what they want because they've sewn so much discord in the west It wouldnt happen under Trump because Trump would use strong rhetoric and implied if not actual miltiary force to make Russia back down. Under Trump there’s a real risk or nuclear and/or military conflict whereas under Biden and Kamala there’s just weakness, sloppy sanctions and empty threats. There’s no way Trump would allow Putin to just waltz in and watch them take Ukraine, hence why Putin waited for a weak, pathetic SJW Democrat to become President before making his move. Why would Trump talk tough to Putin? He's never done that. He had no reason to Of course he needed to. According to your theory, he would need to talk tough to keep Putin in check. So now the situation is Trump has never talked tough to Putin, and Biden has done the same. Im not sure what you mean. You need to pick your moment to talk tough, simply tough talk for the sake of it achieves nothing, Obviously the moment to talk tough to Putin was when he started his military build up along the Ukrainian border, at this point Biden was President , not Donald. But the bottom line for me is that we are expecting the US to police the world. Why? They shouldn't. I like how Enzo praises Trump for avoiding a war in his 4 year tenure yet criticises Biden for attempting to do the same. Fucking hilarious.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xREMINDER: Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine to try to dig up dirt on Joe Biden. REMINDER That's because there was dirt to be found on The Big Guy. REMINDER: Trump told EU to start paying their NATO dues. REMINDER before that: Obama told the world the US won't be the world's policeman. EU should pay for their defence. Agreed. Correct and Trump doubled down on this with numerous policy pronouncements deliberately withdrawing America even further from the world stage. You can't have it both ways. And completely consistent with Trump's America First policy. The Europeans believed with Trump was gone, things would be back to normal and the US would pay for their security. Jokes on them. And you know the weird thing. Blokes like you and Rusty can't even bring yourself to say this is bad. Like what the fuck is wrong with your politics when you can't denounce something like this. I suppose Trump set the bar when he said 'there's very fine people on both sides' so there is that. Bang on. I have friends over there now, they are sending me videos of aircraft bombing outside their apartments, on my friends insta there is all dead people strewn across the street. So horrific. I suspect the russian people don't even want this. These alt right clowns acting like this is some sort of 'owning of the libs' Is Biden partly to blame? Probably but in no way would this not have happened under Trump. I agree 100% Biden has not helped the situation, but if Trump was in, he wouldn't even bring in sanctions. In lots of ways it's because of trump and these weak populist leaders that has given these despots the confidence to do what they want because they've sewn so much discord in the west It wouldnt happen under Trump because Trump would use strong rhetoric and implied if not actual miltiary force to make Russia back down. Under Trump there’s a real risk or nuclear and/or military conflict whereas under Biden and Kamala there’s just weakness, sloppy sanctions and empty threats. There’s no way Trump would allow Putin to just waltz in and watch them take Ukraine, hence why Putin waited for a weak, pathetic SJW Democrat to become President before making his move. Why would Trump talk tough to Putin? He's never done that. He had no reason to Of course he needed to. According to your theory, he would need to talk tough to keep Putin in check. So now the situation is Trump has never talked tough to Putin, and Biden has done the same. Im not sure what you mean. You need to pick your moment to talk tough, simply tough talk for the sake of it achieves nothing, Obviously the moment to talk tough to Putin was when he started his military build up along the Ukrainian border, at this point Biden was President , not Donald. Remember when Russia put bounties on US troops in Syria? Should have stood up then. But the bottom line for me is that we are expecting the US to police the world. Why? They shouldn't. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/remember-those-russian-bounties-dead-u-s-troops-biden-admin-n1264215“The Biden administration made clear Thursday that the CIA has only "low to moderate confidence" in its intel on alleged Russian bounties for U.S. troops.” Just another MSM lie to discredit Trump.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xREMINDER: Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine to try to dig up dirt on Joe Biden. REMINDER That's because there was dirt to be found on The Big Guy. REMINDER: Trump told EU to start paying their NATO dues. REMINDER before that: Obama told the world the US won't be the world's policeman. EU should pay for their defence. Agreed. Correct and Trump doubled down on this with numerous policy pronouncements deliberately withdrawing America even further from the world stage. You can't have it both ways. And completely consistent with Trump's America First policy. The Europeans believed with Trump was gone, things would be back to normal and the US would pay for their security. Jokes on them. And you know the weird thing. Blokes like you and Rusty can't even bring yourself to say this is bad. Like what the fuck is wrong with your politics when you can't denounce something like this. I suppose Trump set the bar when he said 'there's very fine people on both sides' so there is that. Bang on. I have friends over there now, they are sending me videos of aircraft bombing outside their apartments, on my friends insta there is all dead people strewn across the street. So horrific. I suspect the russian people don't even want this. These alt right clowns acting like this is some sort of 'owning of the libs' Is Biden partly to blame? Probably but in no way would this not have happened under Trump. I agree 100% Biden has not helped the situation, but if Trump was in, he wouldn't even bring in sanctions. In lots of ways it's because of trump and these weak populist leaders that has given these despots the confidence to do what they want because they've sewn so much discord in the west It wouldnt happen under Trump because Trump would use strong rhetoric and implied if not actual miltiary force to make Russia back down. Under Trump there’s a real risk or nuclear and/or military conflict whereas under Biden and Kamala there’s just weakness, sloppy sanctions and empty threats. There’s no way Trump would allow Putin to just waltz in and watch them take Ukraine, hence why Putin waited for a weak, pathetic SJW Democrat to become President before making his move. Why would Trump talk tough to Putin? He's never done that. He had no reason to Of course he needed to. According to your theory, he would need to talk tough to keep Putin in check. So now the situation is Trump has never talked tough to Putin, and Biden has done the same. Im not sure what you mean. You need to pick your moment to talk tough, simply tough talk for the sake of it achieves nothing, Obviously the moment to talk tough to Putin was when he started his military build up along the Ukrainian border, at this point Biden was President , not Donald. But the bottom line for me is that we are expecting the US to police the world. Why? They shouldn't. I like how Enzo praises Trump for avoiding a war in his 4 year tenure yet criticises Biden for attempting to do the same. Fucking hilarious. And he avoided war so much he tried to start one with iran. Thank god they didn’t bite.
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it's horrific how Putin is trying to suppress antiwar protests in his own country :crying:
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xREMINDER: Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine to try to dig up dirt on Joe Biden. REMINDER That's because there was dirt to be found on The Big Guy. REMINDER: Trump told EU to start paying their NATO dues. REMINDER before that: Obama told the world the US won't be the world's policeman. EU should pay for their defence. Agreed. Correct and Trump doubled down on this with numerous policy pronouncements deliberately withdrawing America even further from the world stage. You can't have it both ways. And completely consistent with Trump's America First policy. The Europeans believed with Trump was gone, things would be back to normal and the US would pay for their security. Jokes on them. And you know the weird thing. Blokes like you and Rusty can't even bring yourself to say this is bad. Like what the fuck is wrong with your politics when you can't denounce something like this. I suppose Trump set the bar when he said 'there's very fine people on both sides' so there is that. Bang on. I have friends over there now, they are sending me videos of aircraft bombing outside their apartments, on my friends insta there is all dead people strewn across the street. So horrific. I suspect the russian people don't even want this. These alt right clowns acting like this is some sort of 'owning of the libs' Is Biden partly to blame? Probably but in no way would this not have happened under Trump. I agree 100% Biden has not helped the situation, but if Trump was in, he wouldn't even bring in sanctions. In lots of ways it's because of trump and these weak populist leaders that has given these despots the confidence to do what they want because they've sewn so much discord in the west It wouldnt happen under Trump because Trump would use strong rhetoric and implied if not actual miltiary force to make Russia back down. Under Trump there’s a real risk or nuclear and/or military conflict whereas under Biden and Kamala there’s just weakness, sloppy sanctions and empty threats. There’s no way Trump would allow Putin to just waltz in and watch them take Ukraine, hence why Putin waited for a weak, pathetic SJW Democrat to become President before making his move. Why would Trump talk tough to Putin? He's never done that. He had no reason to Of course he needed to. According to your theory, he would need to talk tough to keep Putin in check. So now the situation is Trump has never talked tough to Putin, and Biden has done the same. Im not sure what you mean. You need to pick your moment to talk tough, simply tough talk for the sake of it achieves nothing, Obviously the moment to talk tough to Putin was when he started his military build up along the Ukrainian border, at this point Biden was President , not Donald. Remember when Russia put bounties on US troops in Syria? Should have stood up then. But the bottom line for me is that we are expecting the US to police the world. Why? They shouldn't. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/remember-those-russian-bounties-dead-u-s-troops-biden-admin-n1264215“The Biden administration made clear Thursday that the CIA has only "low to moderate confidence" in its intel on alleged Russian bounties for U.S. troops.” Just another MSM lie to discredit Trump. Thanks. My bottom line still stands though. Why is the US at fault? What is the US expected to do everything?
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