WCQ Playoff: UAE vs Socceroos | 7 June 2022


WCQ Playoff: UAE vs Socceroos | 7 June 2022

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johnszasz - 1 Jun 2022 5:53 PM
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NZ will beat Peru and then the spanner is the the works :D

It just occurred to me that it's also a warm up match for NZ ahead of their intercontinental playoff against Costa Rica. So very good friendly schedule for both NZ and Peru.
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Iraq Jordan ended 1:1 in our group.
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johnszasz - 2 Jun 2022 5:30 AM
Iraq Jordan ended 1:1 in our group.

Wrong thread.
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After Jordan game we learned a bit.

                           Ryan
Atkinson Sainsbury Degenek Behich
                  Irvine  Genreau
     Boyle         Hrustic     Goodwin
                       Taggart

Have Goodwin exhaust himself them bring either McGree or Mabil. I think Irvine's height will be useful. Mooy being touted but Genreau must start. I think Arnold is going to start Leckie and Stensness.
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johnszasz - 2 Jun 2022 5:57 AM
After Jordan game we learned a bit.

                           Ryan
Atkinson Sainsbury Degenek Behich
                  Irvine  Genreau
     Boyle         Hrustic     Goodwin
                       Taggart

Have Goodwin exhaust himself them bring either McGree or Mabil. I think Irvine's height will be useful. Mooy being touted but Genreau must start. I think Arnold is going to start Leckie and Stensness.

Question marks for me is still who plays number 6 and 8 and who will play left wing. Unless we go Stensness (or Dougall, who was very mediocre) we don't have an out and out 6 and we are more than likely going to go for Irvine or Mooy. Mooy is super calm on the ball and obviously will build up play well for us however you have to wonder whether he has the defensive nous and pace to match the Emiratis and Peruvians. Genreau was strong I thought too however he doesn't seem to be a 6. For me, McGree goes left wing or into 8. 

More questions come out of that Jordanian than answers and I don't think that is a good thing. 

I'm going for a similar team to you, however I think we need McGree's creativity ahead of one of Genreau or Goodwin. And perhaps Irvine misses out too, but for who I don't know. 
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I can't bring myself to do it but there is huge value betting against Australia in this one (UAE +0.5 to cover UAE or draw). We should be slightly favored but we are heavily favored. https://bitodds.com/fifa-world-cup/

In the group UAE never lost by more than a goal including away to Iran and South Korea.
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D'agostino is the only forward player with a bit of sack. 

Duke for what he lacks in technical dominance make sup for in defending from the front and moving around - stuff JMAC thinks he is far too important to do. Taggert has a higher level of play but half the time you donlt know it the 25% of time taggert will rock up who is good, or the 75% of time Taggert who is useless at any level above a-league 

Mabil for me seems like a hinderance whenever he plays 

Need big games from Hrustic and Boyle. 





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Rowles was our best back on the night.
Wright, a poor passer and gives the ball away way too much.
Dougall was poor.
Mooy is the best midfielder on the ball and along with HRUSTIC the best chance of creating penetration with a pass but Mooy is slow in defence.
Mclaren needs supplies and is no threat on his own.
Mabil frustrating, poor finishing, great opportunity to score another goal but poor decision/technique to go with the outside of his right foot and generally makes bad decisions.
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Atkinson        Sainsbury        Rowles/Degenek           Behich
                                  Irvine    Hrustic
                                        Mooy
                 Boyle           Taggart                Goodwin

Tilio, Mabil & Leckie attacking options off the bench



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Footballfirst - 2 Jun 2022 2:01 PM


Tilio, Mabil & Leckie attacking options off the bench



D'Agostino has not only scored more, but better goals this season than all of them. He has to get on the pitch.
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GK   Ryan
RB   Karacic
RCB  Degenek 
LCB  Rowles 
LB   Behich 
DM   Sainsbury
RM   McGree
CM.  Mooy
LM   Goodwin
AM   Tilio 
ST   Taggart
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------------------------Ryan
Karacic---Degenek---Rowles--Behich
----------------------Sainsbury
-------------Genreau-----------Mooy
McGree----------------------------------Hrustic
------------------------Boyle

No confidence gained from this morning with Rowles possibly the only positive and I can only hope for a bit of luck and some miracle of individual brilliance will get us through.


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I've just realised Jeggo isn't in the squad, why is that? Dougall played badly and Stesness has not been up to scratch so far.
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I’ve been an advocate for dougall to be in the side as the 6 but off his performance the other day he is very very poor. 
For me it’s stensness, I think he’s the best we have as a genuine 6. Then mooy next to him and hrustic in front of them. 

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Pasquali - 3 Jun 2022 3:05 AM
I've just realised Jeggo isn't in the squad, why is that? Dougall played badly and Stesness has not been up to scratch so far.

How do people actually want Jeggo in the squad? Mid tier A-league player at the most with a great agent.
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              Ryan

Atkinson    Sainsbury    Rowles   King

McGree  Hrustic   Genreau   Goodwin

      Tilio        Agostino
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After an almost total lack of open play penetration in final 3rd v Jordan I would seriously consider bringing in G Kuol and Cummings as Front 2. Could they really not offer more of an open play goal threat than current squad options?!
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Volkz - 3 Jun 2022 12:23 PM
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How do people actually want Jeggo in the squad? Mid tier A-league player at the most with a great agent.

150 games in Europe in a decent league. 

A lot better pedigree than the majority of our players. 

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josh sydneyfc - 3 Jun 2022 8:29 AM
I’ve been an advocate for dougall to be in the side as the 6 but off his performance the other day he is very very poor. 
For me it’s stensness, I think he’s the best we have as a genuine 6. Then mooy next to him and hrustic in front of them. 

I agree, I've been asking for Dougall to be included for months - he really let me down. Passing was average, missed tackles, got dribbled past a few times. Just didn't bring his club form.
Stensness did ok considering he got thrown into the deep end, next to Metcalfe, against Japan in a must win game - ridiculous decision by Arnie. Look at his ratings at club level - he's very consistent. I reckon he deserves another chance. 
Arnie will probably play Irvine, Hrustic & Mooy - which would be a decent combination
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What I suspect Arnie would do:

                             Ryan

Karacic   Sainsbury     Degenek    Behich

                 Mooy           Irvine

Boyle                  Hrustic               Mabil

                           Taggart

What I would like to see:

                           Ryan

Atkinson   Sainsbury    Rowles     Behich

                    Irvine       Genreau

Hrustic              McGree                Boyle

                         Taggart

 




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Barca4Life - 3 Jun 2022 6:09 PM
What I suspect Arnie would do:

                             Ryan

Karacic   Sainsbury     Degenek    Behich

                 Mooy           Irvine

Boyle                  Hrustic               Mabil

                           Taggart

What I would like to see:

                           Ryan

Atkinson   Sainsbury    Rowles     Behich

                    Irvine       Genreau

Hrustic              McGree                Boyle

                         Taggart

 




I reckon you are spot on there with what will happen and what should happen Barca4
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Barca4Life - 3 Jun 2022 6:09 PM
What I suspect Arnie would do:

                             Ryan

Karacic   Sainsbury     Degenek    Behich

                 Mooy           Irvine

Boyle                  Hrustic               Mabil

                           Taggart

What I would like to see:

                           Ryan

Atkinson   Sainsbury    Rowles     Behich

                    Irvine       Genreau

Hrustic              McGree                Boyle

                         Taggart

 




I don't think you can play Genreau and Irvine together with McGree in the AM role.  Not enough steel in the middle

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Barca4Life - 3 Jun 2022 6:09 PM
What I suspect Arnie would do:

                             Ryan

Karacic   Sainsbury     Degenek    Behich

                 Mooy           Irvine

Boyle                  Hrustic               Mabil

                           Taggart


Think you’re very close- Leckie will probably start instead of Mabil though 🙁


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Barca4Life - 3 Jun 2022 6:09 PM
What I suspect Arnie would do:

                             Ryan

Karacic   Sainsbury     Degenek    Behich

                 Mooy           Irvine

Boyle                  Hrustic               Mabil

                           Taggart

What I would like to see:

                           Ryan

Atkinson   Sainsbury    Rowles     Behich

                    Irvine       Genreau

Hrustic              McGree                Boyle

                         Taggart

 




You guys are joking about the Kye Rowles thing right?
He was so out of his depth against Jordan that is would of been funny if it wasn't so sad that Australian national team standards are so low that a player of his ability is in the team.
C'mon his not even a standout CB in the A-league
I legitimately thought Arnold was having a sick joke with us when he was in the starting 11
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Barca4Life - 3 Jun 2022 6:09 PM
What I suspect Arnie would do:

                             Ryan

Karacic   Sainsbury     Degenek    Behich

                 Mooy           Irvine

Boyle                  Hrustic               Mabil

                           Taggart

What I would like to see:

                           Ryan

Atkinson   Sainsbury    Rowles     Behich

                    Irvine       Genreau

Hrustic              McGree                Boyle

                         Taggart

 




Hrustic is too slow on the wing, we need Boyle and Goodwin on the wings
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SoccerooFan - 3 Jun 2022 5:20 PM
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I agree, I've been asking for Dougall to be included for months - he really let me down. Passing was average, missed tackles, got dribbled past a few times. Just didn't bring his club form.
Stensness did ok considering he got thrown into the deep end, next to Metcalfe, against Japan in a must win game - ridiculous decision by Arnie. Look at his ratings at club level - he's very consistent. I reckon he deserves another chance. 
Arnie will probably play Irvine, Hrustic & Mooy - which would be a decent combination

What else did you expect from a guy playing in League One/mid table Championship club? 
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4am koff fellas.......
I'm not bothering adding anymore about who should be starting or not, good to see all your input but out of mine/your hands :)
Not bothered anymore who starts for it will be what it will be, all I want to see is whoever is on the pitch putting in 150% to FT, 150% effort do or die throw your body on the line.
Gonna be a stressy early morn show to sit through but lets bring it on please to the veryvery end just give me that at least.


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How soon after the match are replays normally available on paramount? I might struggle for 4am.


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Old games came up last night on youtube, watched a bit of Uruguay 06 game....

Damn, we were lucky. A lot of fans cry about decisions at the WC but Popovic shouldve been off very early in that game.

The stadium and excitement though - incredible. Amazing seeing the uruguayans freak out from the reception 
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LFC. - 7 Jun 2022 12:18 PM
4am koff fellas.......
I'm not bothering adding anymore about who should be starting or not, good to see all your input but out of mine/your hands :)
Not bothered anymore who starts for it will be what it will be, all I want to see is whoever is on the pitch putting in 150% to FT, 150% effort do or die throw your body on the line.
Gonna be a stressy early morn show to sit through but lets bring it on please to the veryvery end just give me that at least.

Mate I know your going to hate me for this but I dont think Im gonna get up for this tomorrow..... I just can't. Dont expect you to understand but this is so disappointing I just dont want to even entertain the faint glimmer of hope because Im sure it is just going to lead to NOTHING. First time in a VERY VERY long time.

In saying that I really, really, really hope I am just being melodramatic and I wake up in the morning and the headlines read "Socceroos Triumph" and 40 posters calling me a weak willed, plastic supporter... I really do :) 
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