Like the people in active who just wanna cause trouble and beat the shit out of rival fans?

Love the sport but some people ruin it for others 

It's not exclusively a football thing. You'll see that sort of behaviour at nearly any team sport. I've seen a woman punched in the face at an AFL game. I've seen a group of blokes wearing KKK hoods at a cricket match against South Africa. Haven't been to many NRL games, but I'm sure some NSW/QLD people can insert similar stories here. Obviously, I've also seen fights at the football. I'd say it's not necessarily a sport thing either. I remember going to nightclubs and pubs when I was in my twenties and there was always bloke's itching for fight. Unfortunately there are just douchebags in the world we live in that ruin things for the rest of us. 

Exactly.
Go to any nightclub strip in the country on a Saturday night and watch the peacocks strut.
5pm Saturday night walking down Rundle Street headed to the fringe there was a bloke losing his nut starting a fight with security guards.
It was 5pm and 80% of the people on the street were families and kids walking to see a show.

It's cultural. Look at Horda hooligans, they sat in a different position at Aami and watched the Melbourne Darby. To not expect trouble at a football match is naive.

But why does football attract those types? Like I'm interested why groups of blokes name go into active then carry on like that. Like the ones booing glover why? We need David Attenborough to do a study or something 

I think it was more than just the "flogs" booing Glover. 

Perhaps something to do with the fact he was guilty of incitement by throwing a flare into the crowd and did not receive punishment?? 

Most logical people see that he deserved some punishment there. Surely. 

Not saying i agree with the booing- but probably due to lit flare he threw into active Victory area

C'mon mate, you know exactly why Glover was getting booed. Whether it was intentional or accidental, Glover threw a light flare into the crowd and got away with it. Any opposition fans would behaved in exactly the same way if it had happened at their ckub. MC included. 

They're the same supporters Glover threw a lit flair at with no repercussions. I'm not a fan of booing but that reaction was inevitable. Did you go to the derby? Was there any trouble? 

Seriously?
Booing? Naughty naughty boys!!!
Maybe coz he is the opposition keeper and maybe also coz the dude pegged a flare at them fairly recently.
Or maybe coz he is the worst keeper in the league and maybe the dumbest yet is protected and gets games for Australia because of who he plays for.

He threw a fucking flare into the crowd mate. And the league did nothing. Did you expect us to clap him for a good effort? He will be booed, abused and hated by us for the rest of his career. Get used to it. Although admittedly I wished the chant relating to him was about the flare and not the bucket… But clearly the intention was to put him off his game (and it probably worked).

Photos released by police of the alleged pitch invaders they wish to speak to include some men wearing clothing with marked links to active Melbourne Victory extremist groups previously shut down.According to The Herald SunThe Herald Sun, sections of the pitch invasion mob can now be revealed as members of hard-line supporter groups that have terrorised the league for more than 10 years

@ MCG

You need to delve into the background of these extremist, the demographics, what the norm is to them........what their father and grandfather brainswashed them with etc.

This may well help towards answering some of your questions.

Sport is passionate for viewers and when you mix alcohol with that passion when people are together you get some poor behaviour.  Then you have the small number of flogs who just want to misbehave so they do.  It doesn't matter what you do they will still be flogs.  The flogs seem to have this view that the event is all about them so they whinge and complain about the slightest thing they don't like and tell everyone that they are speaking on behalf of the fans which they aren't.  Most people would much rather that they p*issed off out of the game.

Desmond Morris did a study decades ago. Called The Football Tribes or something similar. Do you just want silent theatre goers at matches?

You can be loud and passionate without being a flog you would know that. I'll check out Desmond Morris thx 

We Unique

Why? For some perhaps status? Teens/young adults rebelling against nanny states or perhaps in some cases fullfilling a lack of "belonging" due to individualist competitive freedoms allowed by capitalism?

Because we haven't had a proper war for nearly 80 years

This.

Sportsball has become the replacement to get their fix.

then explain why there are football hooligans in Serbia and Croatia

There are football hooligans in every almost every country. They are only deemed wannabes in Australia and MLS for some reason....

Why does modern football pander to bland family friendly woke virtue  signalling ?

Sucking the passion out of the game.

Why do you need to punch someone when you go to watch sport to deem it a successful night out?

Read what happened to LFCs kid. Would you be happy if that was your son or daughter? Doubt it.


They're just fuckwits that would shit themselves if they had to fight someone one on one. Gutless flogs.

Plus 1

correct, I'm all for showing passion and general fun banter amongst opponents but aggro violence is full on BS and not to be tolerated and IF I had my way if there I'd want them charged/fined and banned especially when that occurred on the street not at the game/stadium.
Stuff these small minded flogs, looking at that small % of WSW ones might I add. (yer every Club have their share of cancer of trouble)
At another derby at Bankwest had the wife and daughter, this flog in red black gear with his wife and small child was playing the death stars at us a number of times and starting talking shit towards us, like WTF is it with some of these flogs.
Feck going to Bankwest ever again - that behaviour isn't about showing supporter passion its down right pathetic insecure childish behaviour.

It find it amusing when people use the word “Woke” as a put down. It’s not. It really isn’t.

If you haven’t noticed, Australian Football is “Woke.” That’s a small part of the attraction for me.

These are the same people who used to say "do-gooders" as a put down.
That was even more bizarre

It is.  It really is. And it is because the movement is inauthentic and the people are hypocrites.

funnily enough I only ever hear the term from the people against "it"

It's all people whipping themselves into a frenzy (on BOTH sides) over such small, tiny % inconsequential matters because the age of outrage (on BOTH sides) is truly here and my God it's nauseating

Anyway I personally only chimed in because the "do-gooder" slur used to make me laugh when I was younger

What's funny about that?  Its a slur that would require those "for it" to explore its meaning and then reflect on their fakeness and hypocrisy.  They don't do self-reflection and awareness, so of course they won't use the word to describe what they're doing.

As for being inconsequential, it becomes consequential when you miss out on tertiary place, or a job or a promotion because you happen to be the best candidate but the wrong sex or race due to "equality".

The "do-gooder" themselves made me laugh, the slur was deserved.

Fascinating, tell me more.

Getting old is hard but the thing is I don't care because I'm not that old yet.

You'd also be hard pressed to call me "woke" so I REALLY don't care.

I'm just having fun because if you think doing good is bad then sure, your slur makes sense.

At least the word woke is made up. You can't misappropriate the word good after 5,000 years of having one meaning aha

PS better qualified people through all of history have missed out on promotions to someone less deserving.

If this happened to you or your kids then I'm sorry but we all get judged on something by someone and quotas literally existed in roman society so I think you're ultimately doomed to lose your battle

Bringing up "Roman society" pffffft thats so woke :P

..

Like the word woman seems to be by some elements (woke?) in society?
🤔

Whatever. I think I've made it pretty clear I'm no woke warrior.

the other thing is it's like people think any of this is new.

All that's changed is the technology to give you tits or a beard and that you have a device in your pocket that alerts you when one child in Arkansas has a crisis of identity.

Agree.

I live in a part of Europe at the moment where there's a distinct absence of wokeness in every day life. It's a tremendous relief from what you cop in Australia.

I choke on my food every time I turn on Australian news.

 

Too much American crap in the Australian media is the problem. 
Murdoch has a lot to answer.

It's at every English speaking country mostly but also at other westernized countries, but far more moderate.

You turn on the CNN, BBC these days and you'll vomit. Much like our ABC.

Thanks the heads up Tucker. I try to get the best news from inforwars, OAN and Fox. No narrative there, just straight facts.  

"I live in a part of Europe at the moment where there's a distinct absence of wokeness in every day life. It's a tremendous relief from what you cop in Australia." PSG

Hahahaha someone should tell our dear friend that a mountain village in Turkmenistan isnt "really" a standard part of Europe.

Despite the usual fascist right wing minorities the rest of the continent is very much about respect for other people..... the 1940s and 50s are OVER.

He is stuck in a "resort" in Queensland ffs don't believe a word

Eh, not really different to Turkmenistan then? lol

Long weekend here coming up, off to Santorini. How did you guys know I was going to a resort?

Make sure to wear some Aleague merch on the ferry.....  Youl need something to throw up into as it gets choppy this time of year :)

he just may have his Pana or AEK or POAK merch with him, afterall he is a Pavlos me think :) haha

I doubt Paulie is an AEK or PAOK fan mate... He is 100% against Monoethnic Social Clubs and both of these have "Constantinople" in their names hahahahahahahah

Went to the Greek Islands ( Santorini, Syros, Mykonos, Rhodes)  pre-marriage and yeah it did get choppy.   Throwing up in front of women wasn't a good look for a young bloke.

Bet you had a great time though :)

What if I told you I was referring to Greece?

They seem to be much better here than 'youz' Greeks in Melbourne.

ROFL

I would be extremely embarrassed and ashamed for the Greeks you interact with on a daily basis Paulie... I would also be disgusted that you are trying to portray such a beautiful country and  progressive, friendly people as the backward conservative neanderthals you want them to be.... 
Get out of your theia Aglaia's front room in Koukaki (if you are indeed in Greece) and go out and speak to the rest of the country..... its NOT the 50s anymore Toto....

It was you that mentioned something derogative you donkey 

a mountain village in Turkmenistan 

 This is not SM Hellas we're talking about. 
I said it was a relief not to be exposed to such wokeness as a compliment. You think the symbolism of being woke is progressive or good lol? Stop turning it around to some imaginary comments I supposed to have made and get rid of that massive chip on your shoulder.

Greece is an incredibly nice country and I have fantastic Greek friends and work colleagues to make it even better. 5 months here now and my missus and I couldn't be happier.

Now now Paulie, don't get your knickers in a knot....  If you want to learn Greek words to try on your "fantastic Greek friends and work colleagues" why dont you google translate some phrases like:
"tinpot effnik Greek club"
"pumpkin seed eaters"
"a club called Hellas doesnt "fit" in our society"

Machine Gun Con at it again

What did your imaginary Greek "friends" think of your xenophobia Paulie?

Ask them what they think of ELLAS MELVOURNIS  and how you are glad we are not allowed to be in your plastic ponzi league.

Have fun.