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PGR - 24 Feb 2023 7:40 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 24 Feb 2023 11:15 AM

What if I told you I was referring to Greece?

They seem to be much better here than 'youz' Greeks in Melbourne.

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I would be extremely embarrassed and ashamed for the Greeks you interact with on a daily basis Paulie... I would also be disgusted that you are trying to portray such a beautiful country and  progressive, friendly people as the backward conservative neanderthals you want them to be.... 
Get out of your theia Aglaia's front room in Koukaki (if you are indeed in Greece) and go out and speak to the rest of the country..... its NOT the 50s anymore Toto....
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PGR - 24 Feb 2023 9:02 PM

Long weekend here coming up, off to Santorini. How did you guys know I was going to a resort?

Make sure to wear some Aleague merch on the ferry.....  Youl need something to throw up into as it gets choppy this time of year :)
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Monoethnic Social Club - 27 Feb 2023 9:54 AM
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Make sure to wear some Aleague merch on the ferry.....  Youl need something to throw up into as it gets choppy this time of year :)

he just may have his Pana or AEK or POAK merch with him, afterall he is a Pavlos me think :) haha


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LFC. - 27 Feb 2023 10:33 AM
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he just may have his Pana or AEK or POAK merch with him, afterall he is a Pavlos me think :) haha

I doubt Paulie is an AEK or PAOK fan mate... He is 100% against Monoethnic Social Clubs and both of these have "Constantinople" in their names hahahahahahahah
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Off topic but one of my best Football mates came from Greece in his early teens with his family...

AnyWho, we where playing a local game and a bit of a grudge match.... 20 minutes in my mate gets sent off along with a player on the other side for fighting... half time we said what happened... and I quote and this cracked me up... he said he called me a pommie C.... and we said but you are a C on the field... and he replied but I am not a pommie.... 

KInda like MSC was posting... the Greeks are far from being backwards and lets be fair they are where democracy started... my mate was more offended at being called a pommie that he was at being called a C... 

Sorry off topic... 
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Midfielder - 28 Feb 2023 1:22 PM
Off topic but one of my best Football mates came from Greece in his early teens with his family...

AnyWho, we where playing a local game and a bit of a grudge match.... 20 minutes in my mate gets sent off along with a player on the other side for fighting... half time we said what happened... and I quote and this cracked me up... he said he called me a pommie C.... and we said but you are a C on the field... and he replied but I am not a pommie.... 

KInda like MSC was posting... the Greeks are far from being backwards and lets be fair they are where democracy started... my mate was more offended at being called a pommie that he was at being called a C... 

Sorry off topic... 

That's funny. I'm not sure why every chat on here ends up in talking about Greece but there were some good points 
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Melbcityguy - 28 Feb 2023 2:34 PM
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That's funny. I'm not sure why every chat on here ends up in talking about Greece but there were some good points 

haha oh no MCG don't you know whay ? everything started in Greece mate, hang around with any of them the world has to thank them for "windex" hahaha
Hang around some portugese its the same storey - we discovered everything long before the Poms/Spanish/Dutch but stupidly we hardly staked a flag in the ground lol......
Rome is no1 mind you :)

Good storey Mid.

Hey MSC, I reckon our mate is a mixed up cause tbh, something happenned to him long time ago - whats he doing in Greece ? oh they behave better than over here lol......
Maybe he understands them better there than greek/afl converts wannabee Aussies hahahaha


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LFC. - 28 Feb 2023 3:12 PM
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haha oh no MCG don't you know whay ? everything started in Greece mate, hang around with any of them the world has to thank them for "windex" hahaha
Hang around some portugese its the same storey - we discovered everything long before the Poms/Spanish/Dutch but stupidly we hardly staked a flag in the ground lol......
Rome is no1 mind you :)

Good storey Mid.

Hey MSC, I reckon our mate is a mixed up cause tbh, something happenned to him long time ago - whats he doing in Greece ? oh they behave better than over here lol......
Maybe he understands them better there than greek/afl converts wannabee Aussies hahahaha

I think we can all agree though that Italian food is objectively superior to greek food in every way  ;)
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Glenardo - 28 Feb 2023 3:21 PM
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I think we can all agree though that Italy food is objectively superior to greek food in every way  ;)

:P:laugh:
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Midfielder - 28 Feb 2023 1:22 PM
Off topic but one of my best Football mates came from Greece in his early teens with his family...

AnyWho, we where playing a local game and a bit of a grudge match.... 20 minutes in my mate gets sent off along with a player on the other side for fighting... half time we said what happened... and I quote and this cracked me up... he said he called me a pommie C.... and we said but you are a C on the field... and he replied but I am not a pommie.... 

KInda like MSC was posting... the Greeks are far from being backwards and lets be fair they are where democracy started... my mate was more offended at being called a pommie that he was at being called a C... 

Sorry off topic... 

Hahahahah Middie this story does NOT surprise me at all.... :)
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Melbcityguy - 28 Feb 2023 2:34 PM
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That's funny. I'm not sure why every chat on here ends up in talking about Greece but there were some good points 

Sadly MCG, a few posters on here cannot understand the concept of ethnicity and nationality NOT being conflicting motivators. 
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LFC. - 28 Feb 2023 3:12 PM
Melbcityguy - 28 Feb 2023 2:34 PM

haha oh no MCG don't you know whay ? everything started in Greece mate, hang around with any of them the world has to thank them for "windex" hahaha
Hang around some portugese its the same storey - we discovered everything long before the Poms/Spanish/Dutch but stupidly we hardly staked a flag in the ground lol......
Rome is no1 mind you :)

Good storey Mid.

Hey MSC, I reckon our mate is a mixed up cause tbh, something happenned to him long time ago - whats he doing in Greece ? oh they behave better than over here lol......
Maybe he understands them better there than greek/afl converts wannabee Aussies hahahaha

Like Ive said before matey, the self loathing wogs are the absolute worst... heheheheheheh

South Melbourne Hellas since 1959 hated, adored, never ignored..... 


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Glenardo - 28 Feb 2023 3:21 PM
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I think we can all agree though that Italian food is objectively superior to greek food in every way  ;)

Hahahahahahah oh my poor paisan ...... the mythical "Italian Food" line eh?

The poor Ities where living in huts when the Greeks had to establish cities on the 'ol boot and show them how to make olive oil, bread, wine and cheese.
The Portuguese had to discover America so they could cook passata with their tomatoes from the "new world" and Marco Polo outright stole noodles from the Chinese..... to "invent" pasta.

I must say, you buggers did get pretty good at making the most of what you were taught. hahahahahahahahaah
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Glenardo - 28 Feb 2023 3:21 PM
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I think we can all agree though that Italian food is objectively superior to greek food in every way  ;)

I mean, it's not even a close contest
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Thread about flogs in football evolves into a who's food is better thread. Wasn't expected that.
I like Greek food and Italian food. Both delicious. Although I do wish more Greek places offered pork souvlaki. Why is it always lamb here. What's wrong with our Aussie pigs?
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someguyjc - 28 Feb 2023 5:34 PM
Thread about flogs in football evolves into a who's food is better thread. Wasn't expected that.
I like Greek food and Italian food. Both delicious. Although I do wish more Greek places offered pork souvlaki. Why is it always lamb here. What's wrong with our Aussie pigs?

Is there any better encapsulation of strayan sokkah? For what it’s worth, my 2c on the actual topic at hand.  firstly, this sport is a global platform, and therefor its fan culture is relatively international/global. so that fact that the subculture developed somewhere meant that it was able to spread everywhere, ie  “The English disease” etc.  obviously there were historic/cultural reasons why it developed, but in reality there doesn’t need to be a “reason” any more than there’s a reason why people graffiti trains. it has nothing to do with the trains themselves, but the subculture now exists in affiliation to train systems around the world as a concept, and will always be taken up by a new generation of youth  attempting to emulate those who came before them because it seems cool to them. some will quickly grow out of it, others never will. for me,  you’ll ever truly rid the sport of hooliganism just as you’re unlikely to ever to completely rid railway infrastructure of graffiti, all you can do is manage it and keep it to as low a level as possible. 

As a side note, in my personal opinion we do a poor job of managing it in this country. most people in Australia either fit into the category of those who grossly overstate the potential for trouble (a riot could start at any place, at any time and for any reason at any sokkah game), or those who understate it (they think it’s a media beat up, or that “we don’t have hooligans in Australia that’s only in Europe”) etc etc. police are over zealous, but are disorganised, inconsistent and have no idea how to take effective preemptive action. Many don’t even know what a soccer hooligan is, they just see “sokkah supporter being rowdy = hooligan”

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Monoethnic Social Club - 27 Feb 2023 9:50 AM
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I would be extremely embarrassed and ashamed for the Greeks you interact with on a daily basis Paulie... I would also be disgusted that you are trying to portray such a beautiful country and  progressive, friendly people as the backward conservative neanderthals you want them to be.... 
Get out of your theia Aglaia's front room in Koukaki (if you are indeed in Greece) and go out and speak to the rest of the country..... its NOT the 50s anymore Toto....

It was you that mentioned something derogative you donkey 
a mountain village in Turkmenistan 
 
This is not SM Hellas we're talking about. 
I said it was a relief not to be exposed to such wokeness as a compliment. You think the symbolism of being woke is progressive or good lol? Stop turning it around to some imaginary comments I supposed to have made and get rid of that massive chip on your shoulder.

Greece is an incredibly nice country and I have fantastic Greek friends and work colleagues to make it even better. 5 months here now and my missus and I couldn't be happier.
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someguyjc - 28 Feb 2023 5:34 PM
Thread about flogs in football evolves into a who's food is better thread. Wasn't expected that.
I like Greek food and Italian food. Both delicious. Although I do wish more Greek places offered pork souvlaki. Why is it always lamb here. What's wrong with our Aussie pigs?

Plenty of pork souvlaki here (and chicken).

Spent my first 2 months in Greece eating at some restaurant, every night. Now it's only 2 - 3 times a week. So I can say with some authority I was blown away by the variety and delicious food. Italian food is quality of the highest order however.
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someguyjc - 28 Feb 2023 5:34 PM
Thread about flogs in football evolves into a who's food is better thread. Wasn't expected that.
I like Greek food and Italian food. Both delicious. Although I do wish more Greek places offered pork souvlaki. Why is it always lamb here. What's wrong with our Aussie pigs?

hehe I like your post and its so ethnic right ? football,food,mangiare, drink, bere ferraris !
Football meat pies roos and cars - what goes down best lol......
The greek club my son used to play for would always have choice, pork or lamb, used to have both, pre and post game haha

Your telling me, pre game, a nice foccacia or souvla or be it portugese frango with a cerveja beats meat pies and roos every single day of the week hahaha
Got to say I have favs in all those nationalities delights and beverages but man, eating some quality genovese pesto pasta is to die for washed down with a suckulent chardy or sicilian red.
Then go to the San Siro and watch wild massive ultras going off.

Pavlos good your soaking in the greek way haha


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LFC. - 28 Feb 2023 9:19 PM
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hehe I like your post and its so ethnic right ? football,food,mangiare, drink, bere ferraris !
Football meat pies roos and cars - what goes down best lol......
The greek club my son used to play for would always have choice, pork or lamb, used to have both, pre and post game haha

Your telling me, pre game, a nice foccacia or souvla or be it portugese frango with a cerveja beats meat pies and roos every single day of the week hahaha
Got to say I have favs in all those nationalities delights and beverages but man, eating some quality genovese pesto pasta is to die for washed down with a suckulent chardy or sicilian red.
Then go to the San Siro and watch wild massive ultras going off.

Pavlos good your soaking in the greek way haha

Deep into it mate. Love the country and I hope it never changes. I'll be here for a while. Need to learn more than 5 words however.

My favourite food in Brazil was picanha. Those Brazilians (and Argentinians) sure know how to cook up meat. Great food all over the world.
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PGR - 28 Feb 2023 9:27 PM
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Deep into it mate. Love the country and I hope it never changes. I'll be here for a while. Need to learn more than 5 words however.

My favourite food in Brazil was picanha. Those Brazilians (and Argentinians) sure know how to cook up meat. Great food all over the world.

mate the latinos and surrounds sure cook meat superb !
I know and eaten the above and the portugese are famous for espetada (again quality rump/sirloin) I cook this at home many times with my inlaw relos.
My ongoing travels to Chile and Mexico for biz rank right up there with those mentioned above.
The euros won't change their dna but sadly getting poorer, good learn the lingo hahaha

Flogs good and bad eat so damn well we got to get back on topic !


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Glenardo - 28 Feb 2023 6:17 PM
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Is there any better encapsulation of strayan sokkah? For what it’s worth, my 2c on the actual topic at hand.  firstly, this sport is a global platform, and therefor its fan culture is relatively international/global. so that fact that the subculture developed somewhere meant that it was able to spread everywhere, ie  “The English disease” etc.  obviously there were historic/cultural reasons why it developed, but in reality there doesn’t need to be a “reason” any more than there’s a reason why people graffiti trains. it has nothing to do with the trains themselves, but the subculture now exists in affiliation to train systems around the world as a concept, and will always be taken up by a new generation of youth  attempting to emulate those who came before them because it seems cool to them. some will quickly grow out of it, others never will. for me,  you’ll ever truly rid the sport of hooliganism just as you’re unlikely to ever to completely rid railway infrastructure of graffiti, all you can do is manage it and keep it to as low a level as possible. 

As a side note, in my personal opinion we do a poor job of managing it in this country. most people in Australia either fit into the category of those who grossly overstate the potential for trouble (a riot could start at any place, at any time and for any reason at any sokkah game), or those who understate it (they think it’s a media beat up, or that “we don’t have hooligans in Australia that’s only in Europe”) etc etc. police are over zealous, but are disorganised, inconsistent and have no idea how to take effective preemptive action. Many don’t even know what a soccer hooligan is, they just see “sokkah supporter being rowdy = hooligan”

Interesting take mate and in regards to you mentioning the "English disease"  I was living in Greece at the time of the Hasel riot in 85 and remember the media being almost shocked when a touring mob of Dutch supporters where arrested for throwing oranges with razor-blades in them at Greek fans in Athens... Headline that sticks out in my memory was something along the line of "English disease? ... how did the Dutch catch it?"
We are certainly not alone in the world in having football hooliganism problems in this country....... only difference is that instead of "the English disease" here it was always "Effnik Sockah"
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PGR - 28 Feb 2023 8:05 PM
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It was you that mentioned something derogative you donkey 
a mountain village in Turkmenistan 
 
This is not SM Hellas we're talking about. 
I said it was a relief not to be exposed to such wokeness as a compliment. You think the symbolism of being woke is progressive or good lol? Stop turning it around to some imaginary comments I supposed to have made and get rid of that massive chip on your shoulder.

Greece is an incredibly nice country and I have fantastic Greek friends and work colleagues to make it even better. 5 months here now and my missus and I couldn't be happier.

Now now Paulie, don't get your knickers in a knot....  If you want to learn Greek words to try on your "fantastic Greek friends and work colleagues" why dont you google translate some phrases like:
"tinpot effnik Greek club"
"pumpkin seed eaters"
"a club called Hellas doesnt "fit" in our society"



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someguyjc - 28 Feb 2023 5:34 PM
Thread about flogs in football evolves into a who's food is better thread. Wasn't expected that.
I like Greek food and Italian food. Both delicious. Although I do wish more Greek places offered pork souvlaki. Why is it always lamb here. What's wrong with our Aussie pigs?

Don't even get me started on lettuce in a Gyro.... hahahahahahah
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Glenardo - 28 Feb 2023 6:17 PM
someguyjc - 28 Feb 2023 5:34 PM

there doesn’t need to be a “reason” any more than there’s a reason why people graffiti trains. it has nothing to do with the trains themselves, but the subculture now exists in affiliation to train systems around the world as a concept, and will always be taken up by a new generation of youth  attempting to emulate those who came before them because it seems cool to them. some will quickly grow out of it, others never will. for me,  you’ll ever truly rid the sport of hooliganism just as you’re unlikely to ever to completely rid railway infrastructure of graffiti, all you can do is manage it and keep it to as low a level as possible. 


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PGR - 28 Feb 2023 8:05 PM

Now now Paulie, don't get your knickers in a knot....  If you want to learn Greek words to try on your "fantastic Greek friends and work colleagues" why dont you google translate some phrases like:
"tinpot effnik Greek club"
"pumpkin seed eaters"
"a club called Hellas doesnt "fit" in our society"



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PGR - 1 Mar 2023 6:00 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 1 Mar 2023 10:28 AM

Machine Gun Con at it again

What did your imaginary Greek "friends" think of your xenophobia Paulie?

Ask them what they think of ELLAS MELVOURNIS  and how you are glad we are not allowed to be in your plastic ponzi league.

Have fun.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 1 Mar 2023 6:09 PM
PGR - 1 Mar 2023 6:00 PM

What did your imaginary Greek "friends" think of your xenophobia Paulie?

Ask them what they think of ELLAS MELVOURNIS  and how you are glad we are not allowed to be in your plastic ponzi league.

Have fun.

Top 6 play-offs and bottom 6 play-offs is not ponzi?...ROFL to a chaotic league.

Every 2nd Greek you meet knows someone or has a friend that knows someone, who's living in Melbourne. I kid you not.

And they don't think very much of 'youz' in Melbourne. I didn't have to ask.



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PGR - 1 Mar 2023 6:18 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 1 Mar 2023 6:09 PM

Top 6 play-offs and bottom 6 play-offs is not ponzi?...ROFL to a chaotic league.

Every 2nd Greek you meet knows someone or has a friend that knows someone, who's living in Melbourne. I kid you not.

And they don't think very much of 'youz' in Melbourne. I didn't have to ask.



Shut up mate 
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Melbcityguy - 1 Mar 2023 9:17 PM
PGR - 1 Mar 2023 6:18 PM

Shut up mate 

If you prefer to hear just from the idiosyncratic Anzac hater Mono, go right ahead. 
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