Wow, this is not a good look - many have said they have no chance in the 2nd tier. This will ensure it you’d think. 

https://www.smh.com.au/national/symbols-of-hate-the-lingering-afterlife-of-croatian-fascism-in-australia-20230605-p5de1s.html

Staggering that a club with any type of Nazi history is still allowed to legally exist in 2023 - let alone join 2nd tier 🤮

Most people don't even know they existed.  Terrible history.  Possibly many of the cro's that emigrated here were linked to Ustasha after WW2

My father always told me if the checkerboard starts with white on the top left, they are ustasha. Checks out lol

Society with lots to be proud of....NOT.

not a good look but your talking about shit that happened 70 years ago - doesnt hold a flame to this level of woke-left wing extremism that actally stops kids from talking football if they refuse to wear 'pride gear' 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11757377/A-League-pride-round-Six-year-olds-told-wear-pride-shirts.html

this happened this season 

lets keep things current the AL suits are the most evil and useless part of our game not these local clubs that generally have kept to themselves - what i will say any club acting 'anti-social' shouldnt be part of a professional division but clubs and players should be force to conform to shit like rainbows/pride/welcome to country/first nations propangda etc 

I know right.

Fucking long bow.

Disgraceful.

These fuckwit Croatians, Australian Croatians more likely, (and my Dad was Croatian) that want to mythologise the Ustase should get on a flight to Croatia and see what their compatriots think of their idiocy.

From the article.

Aarons says such views are abhorrent. “If you still had a major faction of the German community in Australia revering Adolf Hitler and excusing the slaughter of Jews, Gypsies and political opponents under the Nazi regime, there would be absolute outrage at every level of society,” he says.

 

Not really , if anything it is worse- No matter what you do if you look into something enough you will find 'idiots' this is not specific to culture or race but when the governing body is down right extremist you have an issue 

I dont condon the idiots esp the ones who have lived in Australia their whole life but everyone has them - open the paper on Australia you have people saying Australia should burn and we should 'kill white people'  and give back all the land to 1st nations...some people agree with that personally i think it is disgusting but becuz a group is seen as a minority they get away with it. 

the government should be above that in football our governing body is not. 

yer its pretty dam disgusting that any around the Club are still behind this woeful disgusting crap.
The Ustasha, led by Ante Pavelic, were allies of Hitler’s. They hated Jews and helped the Germans to get rid of them by sending them to extermination camps in Germany and Eastern Europe.
They continued to hate Tito’s  Communist Yugoslavia which pushed all Italians out of Istria and Fiume. Fascism is as bad as communism, an extreme “right” movement that is anti-democratic.
We should not have anything to do with any people who sympathise with the Ustasha/Pavelic fascist regime.

Its always a minority - my old man also has Cro blood and no way his relos behaved as such and are disgusted and always says have nothing to do with any who sympathise his family and relos we're driven out of Fiume mentioned above.
I wonder why this article came to be for its wrong giving it/them the press - due to the NSD ?

because the government want to make the nazi / ss symbols illegal in australia, and this is just an attempt to ban the "broader" symbols of anything that is far-right / fascist. 

why is it that in australia, communism isnt in the same breath as fascism? if anything, it's widely accepted. 

Could be because, just like in most western societies around the world, nobody really understands the differences or similarities? ESPECIALLY the ones most vocal in siding with one side or the other.... 

Its a very very very simplistic way of seeing things but as core principles they only real difference is that fascism/ national socialism/ right wing shithousery (call it what you will) classifies the worth of the working class by where they were born or who their parents are ..... the rest is identical..... and people spill blood over it FFS... 

Many German clubs were forced to change their logos to incorporate the Nazi symbol to show allegiance to Hitler. FC Bayern were despised in particular because they were sympathetic to Jews and owned by a Jewish businessman until his arrest in 1938. As soon as the war ended they changed the logo.

It's a bit different from consciously choosing to celebrate Nazi fascist ideology about 30 years after the war ended and continue to celebrate it until this day.

Forcing little kids to wear pride jerseys (which I disagree with) is quite different from celebrating an ideology which slaughtered millions of innocent men, women and children. One is certainly more evil than the other.

Its because 20th century global history is no longer widely taught, and when it is, the people doing the teaching put their own ideological imprint on the facts. The young adults being duped by these ideologies- along with the socialism- are not learning about the full reality.

The only thing surprising is how quickly its happened-barely a generation since the fall of communism and the same rotten ideas are taking hold here and abroad.

Sure thing.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/feb/18/books.booksnews

On BOTH sides of the spectrum Enzo. I agree with you. Look at the far right youth movements in Europe at the moment.....  

are you seriously attempting to draw parallels between support for a long persecuted minority which was murdered en masse by the fascists in europe and the attempt to remove that same murderous fascist mentality from football in a 21st century pluralist democratic state?
take a trip to auschwitz, you might learn something.

Did you ever drink Fanta?

Driven a Ford? 

Old enough to have used a BASF cassette tape?

Watched a Disney movie perhaps? 

Flown in a jet Aeorplane?

Wanted to visit Space?

ahahaha this is fun :)

Well add to that any of the VAG brands (Volkswagen, Audi, Porsche, Lamborghini, Bentley, Bugatti, Skoda, Seat, Cupra, Rolls Royce, Ducati).
As well as BMW, Mercedes and Opel. 

The year and time was early around February 1987...

I had recently returned from NZ after spending 3 years there working for a major subcontractor building a petrochemical refinery...

Looking for work, his accountant got me a contract with a window maker in western Sydney... the owner of this company was the then president of Sydney United... 

I worked directly for him, and the rest of his family for roughly 3 months, on developing the window company nothing to do with Football... I only found out by accident who he was when his son told me one day when I was discussing Blacktown Demons... 

What I can say as a business person, and a person in general, I found him to be an outstanding member of society.... he treated me quite well and his employees, paid his creditors etc...

At the same time I always found a hard core group of SU fans hhhhmmmmm looking for the right word.... the kind would say different and keep a watch the cruel would say concerning... I never felt like this at other games of other teams... 

My gut tells me and its based on pre A-L days and years of working at Liverpool when I came into contact with a number of Croatians... my gut says there is a percentage of  fans in these clubs that can't let the past go... the same may equally be true about many clubs or organisations ... but the percentage seems higher ... 

By comparison,  I always believed that South Melbourne should have been in the A-L from the start, while a Greek club they IMO went out of their way to open doors to everyone and encourage a forward looking manner of things, similar Marconi...  others were moving in the same direction... but SM in particular with I think a crowd average about 8K at the time were never a problem or an issue... 

Hand on heart not the other thing I don't know the solution...  

???!!!

Dont forget SAAB basically making Messerschmidt BF-109s until mid war and lest not look at what the modern day makers of Zyklon B are up to... hahahahahahahah

Hahaah did you work at BOKA Mid? That is actually really funny dude. 

What has that got to do with Melbourne Knights? Genuine question 

Bottom line is there are a shit tonne of companies that not only were pro Nazi or founded by notorious Nazi sympathisers, most of these companies operate today with impunity, never EVER having paid any consequences for their past crimes and everyone is trying to jump on a social club with Ustashe flags.... hahahahahah HUGO BOSS proudly made the SS and Gestapo uniforms using slave labour from the camps and now have the face to label them as historical style icons..... 

They all have Nazi histories.
Henry Ford was an open Nazi supporter and outspoken anti-semite.
So what @Bohemia was trying to point out is that a company like Ford has a dark Nazi history but nobody has any issues with them today.
The question shouldn't be about the past, but rather about the present and whether such sympathies are still prevalent.
If any club, whether it's SU or Knights or whoever, is successful in gaining entry into the NST they will need to address these issues if/when they arise. If any fans display any problematic symbolism at NST games there will surely be consequences. The FA will have no choice. The clubs will have to face these issues whether they like it or not. The spotlight will be on them more than ever before.

Perfectly said.