NST Phase 3 - Assessment and recommendation


NST Phase 3 - Assessment and recommendation

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Thanks Brenton....
So confirmed submissions as expected is a full on East Coast/Canbra/Hobart comp depending who gets over the next finish line.

2 I'm surprised for me re from Sydney, the big Sutho entity not And Rockdale Suns not confirming submisson to date..
Both have good suitable facilities and syn pitches might I add.


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Brenton1986 - 7 Sep 2023 12:27 AM
withdrawn from NST,
Gold Coast Knights - as per their facebook page
Gold Coast United
Olympic FC - as per their facebook page

Where has it been reported that Gold Coast United have withdrawn? Or is this something you've heard?

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Fraser Park have dropped out.
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theFOOTBALLlover - 7 Sep 2023 11:17 AM
Fraser Park have dropped out.

expected i guess. did it come down to $$?
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theFOOTBALLlover - 7 Sep 2023 11:17 AM
Fraser Park have dropped out.

one ponders, with 5 possibles from NPL still in the "ring" to NST I wonder how FNSW will re stack NPL1/2 for next season retaining 16 team comps.
FP may end up going up a Div despite finishing 5th this season.



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LFC. - 7 Sep 2023 12:27 PM
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one ponders, with 5 possibles from NPL still in the "ring" to NST I wonder how FNSW will re stack NPL1/2 for next season retaining 16 team comps.
FP may end up going up a Div despite finishing 5th this season.


the NSD sides will just field academy sides in the NPL. nothing changes.
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Beretta - 7 Sep 2023 12:46 PM
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the NSD sides will just field academy sides in the NPL. nothing changes.

ah yes ok U18's etcetc, good for the young un's, that comp will mean more and a test for them all against the reamaining regular top tier Clubs.
Good step up to grow the depth depending the Clubs reach and ambitions.


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Beretta - 7 Sep 2023 12:46 PM
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the NSD sides will just field academy sides in the NPL. nothing changes.



page 5

https://www.footballaustralia.com.au/sites/ffa/files/2023-02/Invitation%20for%20EOI%20-%20National%20Second%20Tier%20-%20Final_0.pdf

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numklpkgulftumch - 7 Sep 2023 1:14 PM
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page 5

https://www.footballaustralia.com.au/sites/ffa/files/2023-02/Invitation%20for%20EOI%20-%20National%20Second%20Tier%20-%20Final_0.pdf

some of the club reps have been told there is a good possibility the NSD sides will fill U23s squads in NPL.

i guess we will see what happens, everything is still up in the air.
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Beretta - 7 Sep 2023 11:22 AM
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expected i guess. did it come down to $$?

Process too rushed and money.
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Beretta - 7 Sep 2023 2:27 PM
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some of the club reps have been told there is a good possibility the NSD sides will fill U23s squads in NPL.

i guess we will see what happens, everything is still up in the air.

There's no way that NSD reserve teams would be good enough for top-level NPL though. They'd have to be demoted to League 2 if anything. But to be honest, I'd rather keep the number of reserve teams in the NPL to a minimum. Better to promote some district clubs up to League 2 (some of them are desperate to get into the NPL pyramid).
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LFC. - 7 Sep 2023 8:38 AM
Thanks Brenton....
So confirmed submissions as expected is a full on East Coast/Canbra/Hobart comp depending who gets over the next finish line.

2 I'm surprised for me re from Sydney, the big Sutho entity not And Rockdale Suns not confirming submisson to date..
Both have good suitable facilities and syn pitches might I add.

Regarding Sutherland. They've never said anything. They just flew right under the radar and they were on the initial list of EOIs without any fanfare or announcement. Can't read into their lack of noise as anything because they never made any before this.
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bohemia - 7 Sep 2023 4:27 PM
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Regarding Sutherland. They've never said anything. They just flew right under the radar and they were on the initial list of EOIs without any fanfare or announcement. Can't read into their lack of noise as anything because they never made any before this.

Exactly. I bet there could be a number of bidders that don't want to count their eggs before they've hatched. Stay quiet until there is something meaningful to report.
For other bidders like South Melbourne, they may as well start shouting it from the rooftops and start getting the fans excited as everyone knows they will get a spot, but a bunch of the others won't be so fortunate.
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bohemia - 7 Sep 2023 4:27 PM
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Regarding Sutherland. They've never said anything. They just flew right under the radar and they were on the initial list of EOIs without any fanfare or announcement. Can't read into their lack of noise as anything because they never made any before this.

Thats a good point.... same as with the Football SA bid.... 
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someguyjc - 7 Sep 2023 5:27 PM
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Exactly. I bet there could be a number of bidders that don't want to count their eggs before they've hatched. Stay quiet until there is something meaningful to report.
For other bidders like South Melbourne, they may as well start shouting it from the rooftops and start getting the fans excited as everyone knows they will get a spot, but a bunch of the others won't be so fortunate.

To be fair, apart from a brief statement of confirmation that we have submitted the application, not much "shouting" going on.. Hard to start crowing about something which doesn't yet exist, and may yet not even get off the ground..... 
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df1982 - 7 Sep 2023 4:16 PM
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There's no way that NSD reserve teams would be good enough for top-level NPL though. They'd have to be demoted to League 2 if anything. But to be honest, I'd rather keep the number of reserve teams in the NPL to a minimum. Better to promote some district clubs up to League 2 (some of them are desperate to get into the NPL pyramid).

Yeah I agree with this... Dont think its necessary nor  productive for NST clubs to have bloated First team squads for NST, NPL AND normal U21s NPL. Plus this make pro-rel to from the NPL a "muddy" exercise... I would prefer whichever club has a current NPL team for that to be pulled out of the NPL mens competition to give others in the pyramid below a chance to step up and the "regular" U21 NPL comps can stay as they currently are.... If a new NSD entity doesn't have any other teams at various age levels, well isnt one of the criteria for them to establish a set of junior teams?
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Beretta - 28 Aug 2023 3:55 PM
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you'd assume no one. 
why go this far, just to pull out now?

OK, so just heard that the second ACT bid is/was confirmed this week.

6 x NSW, 2 x ACT, 2 x QLD, 1 x TAS, 5 x VIC = 16 clubs so far :)

So far, either directly by the club or someone "in the know" it appears that the following bid submissions are in:

APIA Leichhardt

Avondale FC

Brisbane United (Brisbane Strikers/Wynnum Wolves/Virginia United)

Canberra Croatia

Green Gully SC

Gungahlin United

Marconi Stallions

Melbourne Knights

Preston Lions

South Hobart

South Melbourne

Sunshine Coast Fire

Sutherland Sharks / Cronulla Sharks

Sydney Olympic

Sydney United 58

Wollongong Wolves

Still waiting on:
Adelaide Juve
Brisbane City
Brusnwick Juve
Football SA merger bid
Rockdale

All others are "out"



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Make that 5 x NSW ?


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bohemia - 31 Aug 2023 4:34 PM
Silence from Brisbane United is bizzarre 

Rabiehs' piped up



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numklpkgulftumch - 8 Sep 2023 12:10 PM
Make that 5 x NSW ?


good news, never wanted that joint NRL bid to get off the ground.

why's Rockdale so quiet at the moment? 
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numklpkgulftumch - 8 Sep 2023 12:10 PM
Make that 5 x NSW ?


Who knows but I wouldnt think the APL and their pet would know anything about anything when it comes to the NSD. Lets wait to see what is announced by FA at the end eh?

Speaking of APL shills, is it just a massive coincidence that in the 2 odd weeks since the FA announced moving into Phase 3 of club selection there have not been ANY articles by Inside Sport, Rugari or those old fuck-knuckles at  The Roar???? Not one?And yet there are a dozen about some Spanish dildo kissing a player on the mouth????? 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 8 Sep 2023 9:43 AM
Beretta - 28 Aug 2023 3:55 PM

OK, so just heard that the second ACT bid is/was confirmed this week.

6 x NSW, 2 x ACT, 2 x QLD, 1 x TAS, 5 x VIC = 16 clubs so far :)

So far, either directly by the club or someone "in the know" it appears that the following bid submissions are in:

APIA Leichhardt

Avondale FC

Brisbane United (Brisbane Strikers/Wynnum Wolves/Virginia United)

Canberra Croatia

Green Gully SC

Gungahlin United

Marconi Stallions

Melbourne Knights

Preston Lions

South Hobart

South Melbourne

Sunshine Coast Fire

Sutherland Sharks / Cronulla Sharks

Sydney Olympic

Sydney United 58

Wollongong Wolves

Still waiting on:
Adelaide Juve
Brisbane City
Brusnwick Juve
Football SA merger bid
Rockdale

All others are "out"



I'm expecting that Brisbane City should be in there with a shot for Queensland
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PGR - 8 Sep 2023 3:54 PM
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I'm expecting that Brisbane City should be in there with a shot for Queensland

Hope so, QLD cant be the only state without a proper effnik club in the top division.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 8 Sep 2023 4:34 PM
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Hope so, QLD cant be the only state without a proper effnik club in the top division.

City has assimilated better than most already. Concern for Melbourne though.
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what is the source for sutherland?
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Hearing a couple of bidders are silent not to keep it from the public, but not to have their federations on their backs.

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Monoethnic Social Club - 5 Sep 2023 3:25 PM
numklpkgulftumch - 5 Sep 2023 2:14 PM

Well the rumour is Football QLD (or whatever the acronym is these days). Also (and again these are rumours) Brisbane Olympic and Gold Coast Knights were told that if they went ahead with the final bid for the NSD they would NOT be considered on the roster of teams lined up to play NPL QLD in 2024, OR something along the lines of playing fixtures will be drawn up without them..... Both these clubs may have bid with the realistic expectation that they may not get into NSD and that they would then play where they were.... Federation basically telling them to decide if they are in or out...... 


PGR - 5 Sep 2023 8:47 PM
Gold Coast Knights and Olympic may as well confirm they're staying in the NPL because they have close to zero chance for the NSD with the better alternatives. 

The President of Knights said initially he didn't think their bid would work anyway because the Crayshan community isn't as strong up in QLD & they would have to rebrand to be successful 
Brenton1986 - 7 Sep 2023 12:27 AM
confirmed submissions NST,
APIA Leichhardt
Avondale FC
Canberra Croatia
Green Gully Cavaliers
Marconi Stallions
Melbourne Knights
Preston Lions
South Hobart
South Melbourne
Sunshine Coast FC
Sydney Olympic
Sydney United
Wollongong Wolves

withdrawn from NST,
Gold Coast Knights - as per their facebook page
Gold Coast United
Olympic FC - as per their facebook page

no official announcement from the following 10 at this present time,
Adelaide City
Brisbane City
Brisbane United (Wynnum Wolves, Brisbane Strikers, Virginia United)
Brunswick Juventus
Football South Australia (Campbelltown City, MetroStars, West Torrens Birkalla)
Fraser Park
Gungahlin United
Heidelberg United
Rockdale Illinden
Sutherland Sharks

Why do you keep saying Gold Coast United have withdrawn with no source?
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PGR - 8 Sep 2023 7:19 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 8 Sep 2023 4:34 PM

City has assimilated better than most already. Concern for Melbourne though.
No reason to be concerned Paulie .... Assimilation is last century's racism...... 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 8 Sep 2023 2:48 PM
numklpkgulftumch - 8 Sep 2023 12:10 PM

Who knows but I wouldn't think the APL and their pet would know anything about anything when it comes to the NSD.
Lets wait to see what is announced by FA at the end eh?


Might be easier if you showed your source in the meantime 
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numklpkgulftumch - 11 Sep 2023 11:08 AM
Monoethnic Social Club - 8 Sep 2023 2:48 PM

Might be easier if you showed your source in the meantime 

I dont HAVE a source mate, just rumours and hearsay that's my point..... Or are you asking me what my source is that Rugari is an unreliable APL shill? I would have thought I didnt need to point out the obvious. :) Just surprised that they haven't tried to dug up ol Frank Brunoskevic this time round but I suppose even those charlatans cant invent ANOTHER ex NSL legend and financial wizard :)

Every listed "bid" I have tried to link the social media link and others are just hearsay and rumour.... 
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