https://x.com/M1D3V/status/1751784335580287484?s=20

Ouch ..... 

could be fake news - just wait and see for if and when official annoucements come out otherwise normal stations.

Yeah probably is mate... who knows? 

Might not be the worst news paramount is terrible ya better off watching on YouTube or ten play 

yep P + - sucks bigtime yet some carry on its ok very puzzling I must be on a crappy server ala NBN - Telstra.

MCG isn't Tenplay under P ownership ? think you'll find it is.

It sure is.

Essentially there's a few streaming partners in Oz at the moment

Ten is linked to Paramount+, and I believe 9 is linked to Stan. 7 just use their own free base.

I've never had any problems with Paramount.

Onya one of the few I see.

In my experience P+ has been very good over the last two seasons...when I'm at home or watching on my phone (data not wifi). For reference I'm in the northern suburbs of Melbourne. App is rubbish, but I've had no issues with the live streams. However, whenever I've been away from home and the internet is just ok, P+ definitely starts to struggle. I spent some time in QLD over the break and experienced inconsistent streams. When I visit my parents (regional VIC), the stream is less than ideal. In both situations, the net wasn't bad. Everything else runs fine, HD Youtube, Netflix, Amazon, etc. It's just P+ doesn't work very well. Quality drops to garbage and the stream still has some occasional buffering issues. It's very strange.

yer cheers mate for your experience.

Here's mine using P+.......
I hardly use it on the mobile out and about though the pp works farfarfar better than when using it at home.

Home, I'm in a nice nothern sydney burb, NBN at its finest speed, late model smart tv you name it I got it.
P+ and its shows/movies doesn't mean much to me, more so the wife and adult daughter, I thought to support the rare times I watch AL but more so FACup, ACL ofcourse ROOs.
Many times when I go to watch a AL game it just won't load up and bom game is on, yet I know it is for I check my app and its working - this has occurred a number times, more than I wish to tolerate tbh.
I then either cast it from the mobile to tv, this all give me the poops and can't figure out why the live game doesn't load.

Optus Sport no worries at all loading up every single time and obviously I watch EPL every single LFC game amongst others.
Anyway thats my bitch.

Ditto.

I’m saying it for fun fellas lucky for you.

Yeah I'm just saying ten play is better then Paramount. Like Paramount they haven't even tried you have to search for live games then the bloody thing doesn't load and if it does it stuffs up 

I bet I rolls with epl everyone knew that’s a proven strategy. It’s not going nowhere. 

Ive never had a problem either. I dont watch the pre or post game stuff, just the game. Never had a problem. 

https://tvblackbox.com.au/page/2024/01/31/network-10-refutes-rumours-of-dropping-a-league-broadcast-deal/?feed_id=165642

Network 10 has categorically refuted claims suggesting it is considering terminating its broadcast agreement with A-League Football prematurely.

Is this the same as the Board backing a Manager ?

while i don't love P+, what are the other options? Most of us would prefer Optus, but its not a realistic option. i would suggest we are stuck with each other for now. 

I have no issues with P+ but others are saying they do so I'm taking that at face value that it's true.


It is annoying however when everyone moans about the coverage of the A-League, the streaming, the app and channel 10. They all use this, perhaps justifiably so, to not subscribe.

The problem is it really is chicken and egg. Someone has to make the first move.

It's a shit product so I won't subscribe, there's no one subscribing (we have no money) so it's a shit production. (And the TV rights are worth next to nothing.)

Imagine for just a minute 500 000 people subscribed at $100 a year. That's $50 million in cash straight in their pocket and a huge boost to any future valuation and negotiation.

I consider my P+ subscription effectively a donation for the good of pro football in Australia. (Does anyone know how many people subscribe to P+?)


It's just like fans going to a match. I won't go because it's a shit atmosphere, it's a shit atmosphere because people don't go.

According to a quick internet search, apparently there's 4 million in Australia

Really? That many? 

I wonder what proportion of those watch the A League. They'd know for sure. Hence the rumours of them bailing I'm assuming.

Edit: Just had a google myself and I came up short. Do you have a link?

search led me to this, but not sure how BS it is.

For reference, I found that USA has around 55million.
How Many People Can Watch Paramount Plus At Once in Australia - How To Watch In Australia

AS of 23 Oct 2023. With new shows I assume the figure is higher now.. The pag below says P had 400k subs last year and at the time of publication 1.5 million, meaning a growth of 1.1 million over a year, I assume many of those would be Football folk.


https://www.mi-3.com.au/index.php/23-10-2023/paramount-launch-ad-tier-world-first-shoppable-tv-while-sharpening-attribution-and

Paramount+ had been widely tipped to run ads following substantial growth in user numbers. Last year, Mi3 reported Paramount+ had an estimated 400,000 subscribers, this year the figure has more than tripled to 1.5 million, according to estimates by tech analysts Telsyte. This places it behind market leader Netflix (6.1 million) Amazon Prime Video (4.5 million), Disney+ (3.1 million) and Stan (2.6 million), but on par with Foxtel’s Binge and Kayo Sports.

yeah that makes more sense hahaha

Although, the interesting bit to note there, is that you can subscribe for P+ through Amazon. Does this count as 1 to each, or just to Amazon?

I read that Paramount is still growing its subscription numbers, also JJ said early this year he would be negotiating the next FA media deal, and expects it to be up from the 30 million last time, he may also be the A-L needs to stay in place 

How's every bloke on twitter and FB saying it needs to go back to Fox.

FOX DIDN'T WANT IT.

I don't know how many times it needs to be said, they didn't want it.

If SBS didnt want it, Fox didnt want it,  ABC didnt want it, 7, 9 and Optus never bid for it...... it looks like 10/Paramount is the last chance saloon for a while otherwise its lights out.

Very true, and the push on effect is if the A-L falls over re the broadcast deal, no network or streaming service will look at Australian Professional Football for a very long time.... I recall a conversation having a somewhat heated discussion with a Sydney United fan roughly 15 months ago, and he was wanting the A-L to collapse so the old NSL clubs could replace them and be broadcast on 10 and Paramount and he would not accept if the A_l fell over, broadcasters would not rush  to find a Football competition replacement.

For better or worst, every teir two club should hope the A-L ratees it socks off...its in everybody's interest its successful.

Using optus then Paramount are world's apart really 

yep chalk and chesse !

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/jan/31/a-league-expansion-2026-new-teams-updates-potentially-scrapped?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

https://tvblackbox.com.au/page/2024/02/01/exclusive-paramount-australia-removes-number-of-local-original-series-including-five-bedrooms-one-night-and-other/

LOL never heard of these shows in any case.
Tell you what might gain possible P+ viewer gains in between AL games - my poor suffering wife and adult daughter Have to watch that woeful pathetic entitled mafs.
Thank christ I have more tv's or go do some work but I'm sure countless lost starved souls watch it - APL need to look at other baits to improve the audience :)
Maybe get one or 2 become commentaters :)

The worst part about MAFS is it's, hands down, the highest rated show in Australia.

What does that tell you about the state of humanity?

The same brigade that are all 'marriage is scared' lol

I think you meant "sacred" but "scared" works as well depending on who you married too. lol 

Keep the doors comin' Mono, you're on a roll today!

hheheheh what can I say, I LOVE Friday s :P

Saw your "entry" into ol johnsmith (lower case) diatribe on vaccines and  saving the world from MRNA and 5G towers and thought I might throw a few barbs but its no fun  dealing with fundamentalists anymore, you never know when you are going tp push them too far and cause a tragedy.

My actual response, or my backhanded 'ok'?

both....

yeah, well... I deal with enough 5G nutters at work that I'm not going to comment any further on what people think of vaccines and whatnot. 

Tells us that only a small percentage of the population are watching free to air TV.
Highest rating at 1,236,000 isn't that much given our population is 26.6 million. Similar number to the regular mainstream nightly news.
Over 95% of Australians decided to watch or do something else.

I hear you Muz.....
someguyjc so do those figures incl people watching it on SM/streams you tube or any other means in todays world ? just asking for a non tech guy :)

I didn't think that's how it works. (Happy to be corrected though.)  That 1.236 mill (2.5 mill reach) is not 5%. Even before streaming and pay TV that was a big number.

If that's the highest rated show on the night then that's what the majority are watching. If you walked into 10 houses with the telly on that would represent 3 or 4 houses.  1 house watching SBS and the ABC and the other 5 houses watching 10 and 7. (Yes I realise 4 out of 10 is not a 'majority'. In this instance it means 'most watched on the night.)

I'm sure I've heard them say 1.5 million represents 25, 30 or 40% of the 'available viewing audience' on that night.

That was my understanding anyway. Am I wrong about that?

Anecdotally at least in my case when I was working on contract in an office that's all anyone bloody talked about. That and Masterchef, Survivor and any other reality crap.

(Edit: When they say households are they counting houses or the people in the houses? Because if it's houses then multiply that number, if it's people in a house then the number is correct(ish).

Looks like I might be waaaaay wrong about this.

I thought say, 1.5 million, as the best rated program on a night meant that was a huge swathe of people watching it.

I suppose if you dismissed everyone under 12 and discounted everyone over 70 (who's asleep) that 1.5m is getting closer to a higher % of the 'available viewing audience'.

I'm looking at wiki and google to try and find out how the bastard thing actually works. Even chatGPT is not much help.

In general the ratings system is a bit of a joke. Like free to air TV itself, the ratings system is a dinosaur of the past. The sample size is only 5250 homes. That's 5250 households that agreed to have the viewing data collected and shared for next to no compensation. That's who the ratings are derived from.

ah ok, therefore its way more than we think for typically surveys etc are only a minute of the population.

I agree Muz re office or workplace goss, in my own people talk all about this crap so its big.
As mentioned APL should leverage marketing using these reality entitled wannabees, afterall they are next leading gens - millenials/genX Z you name it haha

Is that not what they were trying with Keep Up?

Nah far from it - a medium for the few converted from the past that didn’t deliver - talking converted a pail what Optus sport is.
They need something different or approach to entice newbies for half of the ol AL support have been scared or weeded off or out.

Looked like they were trying to use a bunch of Australian 'football social media personalities' to promote at times though - Olan Tekkers, Kat Sasso, Claudes, to name a few. Basically the bunch of people that ended up doing SBS's World Cup coverage.

Although it's entirely plausible that I'm getting my wires crossed and mixing up memories in my head. 

That humanity is awesome lol 

Dont know what all the negativity about MAFS is about.... Gotta admit to not having watched it in the past 2-3 years but way back when it first aired the missus and I would watch it every night... was great TV, a bunch of whorish girls and guys with the emotional intelligence of a bag of chips being forced to act like they arent just trying to get their 15 minutes of insta-fame..... It was hilarious.....

LOL funny fellas, I feel I'm mixing with some on the same team here ! happy days and Friday !

Australian job losses confirmed as Paramount Global swings the axe

Following news that Paramount Global would be laying off a reported 800 workers, it was confirmed on Thursday that the cuts will extend to the Australian arm of the business.

A memo from Paramount Global’s president, broadcast & studios, international markets, Pam Kaufman, reads “In order to drive earnings growth in 2024, we have had to make some tough but necessary decisions to ensure we continue growing our revenue while streamlining operations and reducing costs.“

Unfortunately, this includes parting ways with some of our respected colleagues across the Australian business, who will be notified by close of business today.”

After thanking those who will be impacted by the move, the memo concludes
“While this is a difficult moment, I want to emphasize that I believe in our global strategy, and I am confident that the Paramount Australia team will continue to drive the business forward to meet our goals across this critical and priority market.”

https://www.mediaweek.com.au/australian-job-losses-confirmed-as-paramount-global-swings-the-axe/

Swinging the axe is a prelude to Paramount Global being sold or merging.

Alarmists are saying this could ultimately see an end to not only Paramount+ but also Channel 10 who even by their mediocre standards are performing really poorly at present - a new owner would likely flog off any sellable content to netflix and other platforms. Whether the A League would be worth anything to anyone else ...

Have we ever had a network station shut down in Australia? I mean... on a national scale?

does it mention that buffet offloaded his 30% share?

yer was hearing of the PMount news the other day, theor shares had been dropping for sometime.
Among the potential buyers include three media companies; Skydance Media run by its founder and CEO David Ellison, Warner Bros. Discovery WBD +3.3% WBD +3.3% led by CEO David Zaslav and Byron Allen's Allen Media Group. There also remains the possibility Paramount Global won't be sold, at least for the time being.

We wait and see.

In the latest news on Paramount+, their facebook page has been compromised.

https://www.facebook.com/ParamountPlusAU/

lol thats hilarious.....

https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/media/network-10-is-in-total-turmoil-and-may-not-survive-as-australias-third-commercial-broadcaster/news-story/8834f836947d5f4ca478c9b88db9e47f

Queensland University of Technology Professor Amanda Lotz, who leads the Transforming Media Industries research program, said it’s unlikely Australia will still have three free-to-air commercial networks in the near future.

“I would suspect by the end of the decade that we will have two commercial broadcasters,” Prof Lotz said.

“It’s just math. We’re now in a death spiral. And eventually, it might be that we just have one.”

And to think Murdoch wanted to buy Channel Ten not so long ago 😲🤫

Well that was Lachlan.  He has the least brains of that strange family.

All talk is that Sony and Apollo Global are going make Paramount an offer they can't refuse. Well $26B US is hard to sneeze at.

Well Lachlan is the least brightest spark in that family.

All the talk is that Sony and Apollo Global have made an offer of $26B.  Hard to say no to.

I'd guess there might be none within the next 3 decades. 
Change only really happens at the generational level and we are witnessing a shift in media consumption right now. Only a matter of time.
Talk to any 18-year-old about FTA TV. They don't watch it at all and have quite literally zero knowledge of what programs are even on. They only know TikTok and YouTube.
Boomers will be mostly dead within the next 3 decades. Gen Xers will be dwindling within the next 3 decades. The rusted on FTA TV viewers are fast becoming an endangered species. Then you have the Millennials who have phone addictions while simultaneously heavily limiting screen-time for their kids, thus creating a generation that watches less TV.
The commercial viability of FTA TV is never going to get better, just worse.

I see channel 10 have now signed a deal with the NBL and are showing the Sunday game on the main channel. Seems theyre pretty much done with the A-League. https://nbl.com.au/news/nbl-strikes-new-media-deal

What sort of ratings do the nbl get? 

Must be decent enough to be on the main channel?

You'd have to say that the NBL has surpassed the AL now. I didn't want to admit it a few years ago, but they have. I'm not a basketball fan, but even I tuned in to watch bits and pieces of their Grand Final series... 

Weird how that works, since you'd expect it to have the same curse as the A-League (being inferior to NBA)

It is a sport that is almost "made for TV" though.... I tune in every now and then ... 

yes, a few thousand people and it looks full at the stadium, nearly everything in shot and something going on

contrast that with 1.5k at some footy oval in Ballarat to watch Western United against Jets