Response to our petition:
"I refer to Petition No. 4000-23 regarding the proposal for ‘a mid-sized rectangular stadium forBrisbane at Perry Park’ which was tabled in the Legislative Assembly on 11 June 2024.

I am aware that Football Queensland has developed a Strategic Infrastructure Plan whichidentifies the priority of developing such a stadium at one of three potential locations (which includes Perry Park). Financial support for the proposal is not available at this time, however theQueensland Government continues to liaise with stakeholders including Football Queensland,Brisbane City Council, the Young Men’s Christian Association (the head lessee of Perry Park)and Strikers Sport Recreation and Welfare Association Limited to consider any futureopportunities for the site.

The 2018 Stadium Taskforce Report found that there was no requirement for another boutiquestadium because there is existing capacity in the current suite of stadia. There are currently fourrectangular stadia within an 80-kilometre radius of the Brisbane CBD, which includes SuncorpStadium—the world's best rectangular stadium—and the newly refurbished Ballymore complex.The existing stadia deliver suitable infrastructure for football. Furthermore, a boutique stadiumwas not part of the Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games bid.

It is my understanding that in addition to the use of Suncorp Stadium, Ballymore Stadium is thecurrent home training base for the Brisbane Roar Men’s team, with both the men’s and women’steams playing home games at Ballymore during the 2023-24 season. I am also aware that afurther facility in the City of Moreton Bay is becoming available for the women’s game as well aslocal club activity.

Accelerate 2022-2025 (Accelerate), the second action plan under Activate! Queensland2019-2029, outlines the Queensland Government’s three-year vision to get more Queenslanders moving, more often. Accelerate will continue to provide targeted and deliberate action and investment through five key commitments, including to ‘champion an industry leading network of infrastructure across Queensland’. Under this commitment, the Department of Tourism and Sport is investing in community sport infrastructure to increase community participation and facility utilisation through quality and accessibility improvements across Queensland.

I trust this information is of assistance.

Yours sincerely
MICHAEL HEALY MP
Minister for Tourism and Sport"

Says it all really - the decision makers have no f*king idea about football and no interest in it as a sport.

To suggest that Suncorp does the job shows they have missed the whole need and point.

How unsurprising.

Can perry park also host womens rugby league?

It is really well located for travel by train so it would be great for any sport.

The pitch itself would be physically big enough for league.

I don't think it has enough room around the field for league though - but I could be wrong - Dolphin Stadium felt like it had less room round it and they play league there.

Are you thinking it might be worth a shared bid with football and women's league? I would be sure that we would end up the poorer cousins again and have to find somewhere else every time there was conflict if we had that.

If it ever gets redeveloped, the current set up will certainly go



Here is Football Queenslands latest Vision

There's absolutely no way Tax Payers will be funding a $200 million stadium just for a few Soccer games

Even if built, Stadiums Queensland would run another multi-purpose facility renting out to everyone at Commercial rates

As long as it's rectangular and doesn't facilitate AFL is my preference.

How many women's AFL grounds do they need

If you do say so yourself.

They probably mean it has the squarest corners and is the most rectangular stadium in the world. There is no way in hell a 2018 report would have checked every rectangular stadium in the world and formed that opinion so it is obvious political bullshit trying to blow smoke up our arses while telling us experts have already considered our needs and we don't know what we are talking about.

For me the key part that shows they have no idea what we are asking for is saying there is capacity in existing stadia. That's the whole point - there is too much capacity and not enough fitness for purpose.

Unless a political party can actually see that they get burned for decisions like this come the next election they will never decide in favour of a tainted, marginalised sport. And so we will continue to echo in the vastness of an empty Suncorp with a beautiful flat grass pitch - unless anyone wants to play ground hack sports or put on a pitch destroying concert in the meantime.

For all the voices in favour of our sport at all levels we cannot be heard fairly.

Always sad to have confirmation.

;)

Yep, they do always say that. If you are completely oblivious to the rest of the world outside Australia you might even agree with it.

Saw an ad by the perth afl stadium saying they're the best stadium in the world. Full stop 

The delusion 

lol Suncorp wouldn't even be in the top 100 best rectangular stadiums.  The bog it turns into whenever it rains is enough to exclude it alone.

Interesting observation.

When I saw the Socceroos there once we had torrential rain that created a total screen when you looked down the tunnels onto the pitch. The game was delayed half an hour or so after the rain had stopped but the ground played true.

It is only when the ground has already been killed by concerts then relaid a week or two prior to a game that I see the bogginess coming into it - which happens far too often.

For all of its unacceptableness as a regular game stadium due to its cost and size, I have found the surface to be quality when it is allowed to be used for football alone.

It may also be worth mentioning, it is probably the boggiest pitch with the most superb square corners when it does fall apart (thanks Keeper66 - always good to keep perspective).

Commercially we just don't have the clout to influence any State Gov much let alone Feds.
Whilst we see Albo sucking up around the honchos and for the exposure during WWC whilst calls by players/Arnie for more funding it falls on death ears.
No matter the ground whenever there is alot of rain the drainage isn't good enough let alone urgently preparing them after rugby code games, concerts etcetc - we will always have playing surface issues whilst having to share codes at main venues.
One thing though for most of the main big APL Clubs locking themselves in over sized regular game crowds, yes you BR/SFC/MV/WSW, bad business full stop.
The ROI is pathetic and the games perception to neutrals/casuals isn't a good look.
This game of ours needs to know its limitations - then you work your way up.

Our problem up here is that we are at the mercy of Stadiums Queensland unless we choose to go for a more 'obscure' smaller ground. We tried Redcliffe and alienated/lost fans from Brisbane over its distance and location. We have tried Ballimore and it is just too isolated from easy travel (yes, that pathetic excuse makes a difference) and it is only a 6k stadium. Perry Park is as good as we can get with existing grounds - a couple of hundred metres from the train station - and would have been a fantastic size as well. No good at only 5k now though.

As things stand, we might struggle to fill a 10k stadium consistently so I take your point about starting small and working up, but I think we would outgrow a smaller stadium too quickly.

Nothing 10-15k available for us that I know of.

I feel your pain RIMB.
We're always at the mercy of one group or the other regardless.
Each cap city has similar hurdles/road blocks, Syd CBD for last 10/15yrs this donkey Mayor we have seems to have more clout than the council/and local Gov authorities she's responsible to for eg.....
People have massive issues getting to the CBD nowadays thanks to her AND that includes getting to Moore Park long before these days.
So mentioning Ballymore, people need to harden up, the closest station to Moore Park is Central, 32min walking distance.
Or get a bus/uber/a Lime bike or whatever, people need to wake up and IF you luv your Club you get there ! if not who cares.
You will struggle to fill a 10k stad  for a while - 6k Ballymore perfect.
IF I was the BR owner I'd take the plunge purely on the $ savings - if we play good football people will come, if not I've halved my outgoings regardless and I still have a business that keeps the door open.

According to Google our average last season was 6.5k. Ballimore just isn't big enough for us at only 6k. We will get up to 10k for big fixtures and that would be as lost to us at Ballimore as it is at Suncorp for opposite reasons - and allows nothing at all for growth - which we are going to see when we are winning games from the start of next season.

Does the fact that RNA Showground is oval disqualify it for consideration, in your opinion? They've played rugby league there before so I'm guessing the field is sufficiently large to contain a football pitch.

The RNA own it for a start, and they have no use for a rectangular stadium

Depending on what the final decision is on the Olympic stadium combination (Come back in the new year after State election), one of the options is to upgrade the RNA Arena for the Lions to use whilst the Gabba is replaced/tarted up/torn down.

It might be an option and I don't why it isn't already.  Rarely gets mentioned.

Personally, I sit about 10 rows from the pitch by preference at the Roar and the proximity is a real part of the experience for me. If you can't hear leather on shin you are too far away.

I would not want fans sitting as far away as ovals normally dictate so I would disqualify RNA on those grounds.

BUT if the option was an oval with 10k seating or an empty Suncorp I would find the oval better for the club. It still needs to be a 'football first' field though. Tired of getting shafted by other sports/events and fields wrecked for months.

Agreed. Not ideal but as you have pointed out, other options atm aren't great. I think West Ham's home ground is circled by the London Olympics running track. Again, not ideal but not necessarily a deal breaker.

The deal Breaker for West Ham is that they rent it for an absolute pittance, 
Taxpayers have to pay a massive amount of the running costs of the Stadium under the fucked up deal 
Plus the running track has seating over it that can come out for Gigs n Athletics

West Ham put temporary seating for spectators over the main running track for matches? I knew they had plans to provide some closer seating but hadn't realised they had gone as far as putting seating over the main running track.

And extra roofing to cover them

Olympics


Now

How bout the new Olympic Stadium ?

The Upper level terracing is only Temporary but there'll be 14,000 seats left afterwards

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/first-look-at-brisbane-s-no-frills-olympic-stadium-20240711-p5jsvt.html

depends how they feel about having the athletic track there..

:laugh:

The government’s response is pretty disappointing tbh. Feels like they’re not really listening to what football fans want.

same delusion every single city here but more so us on the east coast.
The G ffs.
The Gabba ?!
Lang Park the cauldron ? well every ground can replicate a cauldron feeling for away sides.
Allianz ?
SCG ?
Parras Bankwest ?
STFU all of you, as long as the game on the day your there is a rippa even better your team wins everything is the best hahaha
Little world and minds, stralya we de best cauldron.

well considering their choices are few and far between, its perfect :)