How Nations Are Buying Their Way to National Team Success


How Nations Are Buying Their Way to National Team Success

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https://youtu.be/bLKKkWJcbhk?si=KHES9I4B2c7oJ7Uu
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It's a shame we can only emulate this by getting the likes of Boyle and Fornaroli. 
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Fun video

Probably a controversial view, but i dont see that as bad

I wouldnt want my national team dominated by naturalized players tho

Souttar seems to have a lot of passion for the jersey so gets a pass
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Maybe boyle gets a pass too, even tho he has had an injury related form slump
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grazorblade - 30 Sep 2024 6:17 PM
Maybe boyle gets a pass too, even tho he has had an injury related form slump

I think you could find a born and or raised Australian player that is of his quality. Souttar is very good Il give him that.
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I've often wondered how many players in England have Aussie eligibility through family connections. We've seen it a lot with Scottish players (Boyle/Souttar/Cummings) but not English players. That strikes me as odd. There's a lot of immigration between the two countries. I reckon there would be quite a few if you dug them up. 
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Quicky - 30 Sep 2024 8:35 PM
I've often wondered how many players in England have Aussie eligibility through family connections. We've seen it a lot with Scottish players (Boyle/Souttar/Cummings) but not English players. That strikes me as odd. There's a lot of immigration between the two countries. I reckon there would be quite a few if you dug them up. 

A lot moved over as children. Strain, Silvera. Some young ones born in England and who've stayed there are starting to get noticed such as Francois and Watts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Australia_men%27s_international_soccer_players_born_outside_Australia

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I wonder if there is a euro striker and rb with dual nationality
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Might work out for Australia in 20/30 years considering most people 20-30 are moving away from Aus. 

Australians moving to Spain, Brits moving to Australia. 
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Interesting read!

Thanks for posting MCG.

Qatar basically has a team of mercenaries playing.

I've never been happy with Fornaroli playing, with no Aussie heritage but given the loss of Aussies, I'm pleased Souttar and Boyle have donned the green and gold.

Not sure Geraint Jones is good enough?

Indonesia have a diaspora of players with tenuous Indo heritage - many of who struggled with the Indo heat and humidity hen they played us.
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Surely theres some shit hot u23's striker out there in the Balkans with a grandparent born over here...
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A list of some young players playing out side of Australia with Aus duel nationality. Dimitris Valkanis 17 AEK, Tommy Whitehead 15 Bournemouth, Matteo Mazzone 18 Wolfsburg, Liam Chipperfield 20 Sion, Noa Skoko 17 Hajduk Split, Oscar Bouyer 19 IFK Berga, Peter Gwargis 22 Malmo,  Jason Kodor 17 Lecce.
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southoftheyarra - 1 Oct 2024 12:43 AM
A list of some young players playing out side of Australia with Aus duel nationality. Dimitris Valkanis 17 AEK, Tommy Whitehead 15 Bournemouth, Matteo Mazzone 18 Wolfsburg, Liam Chipperfield 20 Sion, Noa Skoko 17 Hajduk Split, Oscar Bouyer 19 IFK Berga, Peter Gwargis 22 Malmo,  Jason Kodor 17 Lecce.

nice list. Any strikers that are playing at a decent level that have made their competitive debuts?
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grazorblade - 1 Oct 2024 12:53 AM
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nice list. Any strikers that are playing at a decent level that have made their competitive debuts?

Not that I could find, btw I'm using the football manager 24 database and looking at players with Australia as their 2nd nationality.
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southoftheyarra - 1 Oct 2024 12:56 AM
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Not that I could find, btw I'm using the football manager 24 database and looking at players with Australia as their 2nd nationality.

ah nice

wonder if souttar's was listed. There could be a ton we have never heard of
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i guess you would need to look at FM2018 to check Souttar's status?

Reason Im curious is because if his aussie status isn't listed thats reassuring that there are probably a zillion others with aussie eligibility not listed...
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grazorblade - 1 Oct 2024 1:07 AM
i guess you would need to look at FM2018 to check Souttar's status?

Reason Im curious is because if his aussie status isn't listed thats reassuring that there are probably a zillion others with aussie eligibility not listed...

I remember playing as Stoke (maybe even 2017?) and seeing this lanky 51 rated centre back without a photo. After an update, Australia was the nationality. Even then it felt like he wasn't even a real person and it was tough to find details I thought he was just a CPU. 

Thing is, even at 51, the towering headers and occasional long ball, I thought this name is one to watch. Probably my favourite national team player nowadays. 
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grazorblade - 1 Oct 2024 1:07 AM
i guess you would need to look at FM2018 to check Souttar's status?

Reason Im curious is because if his aussie status isn't listed thats reassuring that there are probably a zillion others with aussie eligibility not listed...

heaps not listed.

One from recent years I would have loved to see was Georgie Samaras

Samaras was eligible to play for the Australian national team. His father, Ioannis, was born in Melbourne, but moved to Greece at the age of 13, and had a successful football career, playing for OFIPanathinaikos, and Greece.[155] Additionally, his grandfather (also Georgios) was one of the founding members of South Melbourne FC. Although Samaras considered playing for Australia, he was never approached by Football Federation Australia and chose to play for the country of his birth.[156]

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Would we have been able to lure Christian Vieri away from the Italian national team? What would it have 'cost'?
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southoftheyarra - 1 Oct 2024 11:12 AM
 Would we have been able to lure Christian Vieri away from the Italian national team? What would it have 'cost'?

The only "cost" would have been for the whole of  the Australian football community buying into support of the local professional game from 1977 onwards and seeing past their assimilationist racial xenophobic instincts.....  


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Tbh I dgaf anymore own grown or not - especially a striker.
We have shot blanks up front for decades.



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southoftheyarra - 1 Oct 2024 12:43 AM
A list of some young players playing out side of Australia with Aus duel nationality. Dimitris Valkanis 17 AEK, Tommy Whitehead 15 Bournemouth, Matteo Mazzone 18 Wolfsburg, Liam Chipperfield 20 Sion, Noa Skoko 17 Hajduk Split, Oscar Bouyer 19 IFK Berga, Peter Gwargis 22 Malmo,  Jason Kodor 17 Lecce.

Have you got these guys to play for Australia on fm? 
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LFC. - 1 Oct 2024 12:36 PM
Tbh I dgaf anymore own grown or not - especially a striker.
We have shot blanks up front for decades.


never fear mate, the NC is adapting to include teaching players how to shoot properly.
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Have you got these guys to play for Australia on fm? 

Hahah not yet, but maybe I should start a save as Australia coach ... oh wait the are removing international management for the next game.
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LFC. - 1 Oct 2024 12:36 PM
Tbh I dgaf anymore own grown or not - especially a striker.
We have shot blanks up front for decades.


Someone gets it! Hopefully someone comes along sooner rather than later.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 1 Oct 2024 12:31 PM
southoftheyarra - 1 Oct 2024 11:12 AM

The only "cost" would have been for the whole of  the Australian football community buying into support of the local professional game from 1977 onwards and seeing past their assimilationist racial xenophobic instincts.....  


Bit rich coming from you, since you are no longer part of the football community since 2005.

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robbos - 1 Oct 2024 2:55 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 1 Oct 2024 12:31 PM

Bit rich coming from you, since you are no longer part of the football community since 2005.

And yet Ive followed an Australian club for nearly 50 years..... go figure eh?. 
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robbos - 1 Oct 2024 2:55 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 1 Oct 2024 12:31 PM

Bit rich coming from you, since you are no longer part of the football community since 2005.

If you have nothing worthwhile to say, why say anything?
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Monoethnic Social Club - 1 Oct 2024 2:59 PM
robbos - 1 Oct 2024 2:55 PM

And yet Ive followed an Australian club for nearly 50 years..... go figure eh?. 

Yet you accused others of 'buying into support of the local professional game from 1977'. Go Figure.

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southoftheyarra - 1 Oct 2024 3:04 PM
robbos - 1 Oct 2024 2:55 PM

If you have nothing worthwhile to say, why say anything?

The insults again.

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