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+xI've often wondered how many players in England have Aussie eligibility through family connections. We've seen it a lot with Scottish players (Boyle/Souttar/Cummings) but not English players. That strikes me as odd. There's a lot of immigration between the two countries. I reckon there would be quite a few if you dug them up. Good point.
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+x+xInteresting read! Thanks for posting MCG. Qatar basically has a team of mercenaries playing. I've never been happy with Fornaroli playing, with no Aussie heritage but given the loss of Aussies, I'm pleased Souttar and Boyle have donned the green and gold. Not sure Geraint Jones is good enough? Indonesia have a diaspora of players with tenuous Indo heritage - many of who struggled with the Indo heat and humidity hen they played us. So the Qatar NT - mercenaries lol, true though why are we so hell bent on the tradional path of yesterday, TBH we all don't know much of their history in football development and throw in whatever else being in the ME but I BET you any Qaratrian supporter in the stands appreciate seeing any player no matter their original COB having their NT shirt on and giving their all, thats all that matters. Our '74 Roos mostly didn't have Aussie heritage - and so many proceedings Roos following them came from migrant backgrounds, some born here some not. Fornaroli's situation TBH highlighted the dire need and desparation of having a striker, shame a bit too late BUT what IF it occurred when he was at his peak and scored some goals, everyone would be patting him on the back and saying how good that he got nationalised, infact hardly would have been mentioned. Yet you were pleased Souttar/Boyle donned the green and gold, don't make sense mate. I think IF there's a chance to get any good decent player that swears allegiance get into our NT that is better than what we have wouldn't care where they were born. Bruno is more Aussie than Souttar and Boyle are lol, so I don’t get that either.
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I prefer we developed our own players rather go in the nationalise stage where we find players who are probably not good enough for their own national teams but we would take them because we don’t feel our players are good enough for us.
I know why it’s done around the world but if we have good players here then they should be given the opportunity whether they play overseas or in Australia.
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+xInteresting read! Thanks for posting MCG. Qatar basically has a team of mercenaries playing. I've never been happy with Fornaroli playing, with no Aussie heritage but given the loss of Aussies, I'm pleased Souttar and Boyle have donned the green and gold. Not sure Geraint Jones is good enough? Indonesia have a diaspora of players with tenuous Indo heritage - many of who struggled with the Indo heat and humidity hen they played us. So the Qatar NT - mercenaries lol, true though why are we so hell bent on the tradional path of yesterday, TBH we all don't know much of their history in football development and throw in whatever else being in the ME but I BET you any Qaratrian supporter in the stands appreciate seeing any player no matter their original COB having their NT shirt on and giving their all, thats all that matters. Our '74 Roos mostly didn't have Aussie heritage - and so many proceedings Roos following them came from migrant backgrounds, some born here some not. Fornaroli's situation TBH highlighted the dire need and desparation of having a striker, shame a bit too late BUT what IF it occurred when he was at his peak and scored some goals, everyone would be patting him on the back and saying how good that he got nationalised, infact hardly would have been mentioned. Yet you were pleased Souttar/Boyle donned the green and gold, don't make sense mate. I think IF there's a chance to get any good decent player that swears allegiance get into our NT that is better than what we have wouldn't care where they we're born.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x Would we have been able to lure Christian Vieri away from the Italian national team? What would it have 'cost'? The only "cost" would have been for the whole of the Australian football community buying into support of the local professional game from 1977 onwards and seeing past their assimilationist racial xenophobic instincts..... Bit rich coming from you, since you are no longer part of the football community since 2005. And yet Ive followed an Australian club for nearly 50 years..... go figure eh?. Yet you accused others of 'buying into support of the local professional game from 1977'. Go Figure. No I accused others (mainly YOU) of NOT buying into the local game from 1977.... If you had perhaps Christian Vieri may have had a worthwhile competition to play in to match his level... bit OK, keep going down the same old racist path.... well never have what we want here because none of us can decide what it is we want... you just want everyone to follow you assimilated, amalgamated white Australia policy ramblings it seems.... nothing else matters eh? I'm an ethnic too, just don't have the victim mentality, I'm all for calling it Uluru instead of Ayers, so no not white Australian policy for me. We've been down this road before MONO. Sure mate, whatever makes you feel better about things..... I'[m pleased for you that you dont have a victim mentality... its wonderful... well done. And the "Uluru" thing, another great call... not sure of it's relevance but OK, well done you. Happy to call a rock in the middle of the desert a name given to it by a group of people refusing to accept the Anglo name but your not willing to accepts soccer clubs founded by migrants having the same right to call their clubs by a "foreign name"... gottcha... it all makes perfect sense.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x Would we have been able to lure Christian Vieri away from the Italian national team? What would it have 'cost'? The only "cost" would have been for the whole of the Australian football community buying into support of the local professional game from 1977 onwards and seeing past their assimilationist racial xenophobic instincts..... Bit rich coming from you, since you are no longer part of the football community since 2005. And yet Ive followed an Australian club for nearly 50 years..... go figure eh?. Yet you accused others of 'buying into support of the local professional game from 1977'. Go Figure. No I accused others (mainly YOU) of NOT buying into the local game from 1977.... If you had perhaps Christian Vieri may have had a worthwhile competition to play in to match his level... bit OK, keep going down the same old racist path.... well never have what we want here because none of us can decide what it is we want... you just want everyone to follow you assimilated, amalgamated white Australia policy ramblings it seems.... nothing else matters eh? I'm an ethnic too, just don't have the victim mentality, I'm all for calling it Uluru instead of Ayers, so no not white Australian policy for me. We've been down this road before MONO.
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+x+x+x+x+x Would we have been able to lure Christian Vieri away from the Italian national team? What would it have 'cost'? The only "cost" would have been for the whole of the Australian football community buying into support of the local professional game from 1977 onwards and seeing past their assimilationist racial xenophobic instincts..... Bit rich coming from you, since you are no longer part of the football community since 2005. And yet Ive followed an Australian club for nearly 50 years..... go figure eh?. Yet you accused others of 'buying into support of the local professional game from 1977'. Go Figure. No I accused others (mainly YOU) of NOT buying into the local game from 1977.... If you had perhaps Christian Vieri may have had a worthwhile competition to play in to match his level... bit OK, keep going down the same old racist path.... well never have what we want here because none of us can decide what it is we want... you just want everyone to follow you assimilated, amalgamated white Australia policy ramblings it seems.... nothing else matters eh?
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+x+x+x+x Would we have been able to lure Christian Vieri away from the Italian national team? What would it have 'cost'? The only "cost" would have been for the whole of the Australian football community buying into support of the local professional game from 1977 onwards and seeing past their assimilationist racial xenophobic instincts..... Bit rich coming from you, since you are no longer part of the football community since 2005. If you have nothing worthwhile to say, why say anything? The insults again.
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+x+x+x+x Would we have been able to lure Christian Vieri away from the Italian national team? What would it have 'cost'? The only "cost" would have been for the whole of the Australian football community buying into support of the local professional game from 1977 onwards and seeing past their assimilationist racial xenophobic instincts..... Bit rich coming from you, since you are no longer part of the football community since 2005. And yet Ive followed an Australian club for nearly 50 years..... go figure eh?. Yet you accused others of 'buying into support of the local professional game from 1977'. Go Figure.
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+x+x+x Would we have been able to lure Christian Vieri away from the Italian national team? What would it have 'cost'? The only "cost" would have been for the whole of the Australian football community buying into support of the local professional game from 1977 onwards and seeing past their assimilationist racial xenophobic instincts..... Bit rich coming from you, since you are no longer part of the football community since 2005. If you have nothing worthwhile to say, why say anything?
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+x+x+x Would we have been able to lure Christian Vieri away from the Italian national team? What would it have 'cost'? The only "cost" would have been for the whole of the Australian football community buying into support of the local professional game from 1977 onwards and seeing past their assimilationist racial xenophobic instincts..... Bit rich coming from you, since you are no longer part of the football community since 2005. And yet Ive followed an Australian club for nearly 50 years..... go figure eh?.
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+x+x Would we have been able to lure Christian Vieri away from the Italian national team? What would it have 'cost'? The only "cost" would have been for the whole of the Australian football community buying into support of the local professional game from 1977 onwards and seeing past their assimilationist racial xenophobic instincts..... Bit rich coming from you, since you are no longer part of the football community since 2005.
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+xTbh I dgaf anymore own grown or not - especially a striker. We have shot blanks up front for decades. Someone gets it! Hopefully someone comes along sooner rather than later.
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+x+xA list of some young players playing out side of Australia with Aus duel nationality. Dimitris Valkanis 17 AEK, Tommy Whitehead 15 Bournemouth, Matteo Mazzone 18 Wolfsburg, Liam Chipperfield 20 Sion, Noa Skoko 17 Hajduk Split, Oscar Bouyer 19 IFK Berga, Peter Gwargis 22 Malmo, Jason Kodor 17 Lecce. Have you got these guys to play for Australia on fm? Hahah not yet, but maybe I should start a save as Australia coach ... oh wait the are removing international management for the next game.
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+xTbh I dgaf anymore own grown or not - especially a striker. We have shot blanks up front for decades. never fear mate, the NC is adapting to include teaching players how to shoot properly.
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+xA list of some young players playing out side of Australia with Aus duel nationality. Dimitris Valkanis 17 AEK, Tommy Whitehead 15 Bournemouth, Matteo Mazzone 18 Wolfsburg, Liam Chipperfield 20 Sion, Noa Skoko 17 Hajduk Split, Oscar Bouyer 19 IFK Berga, Peter Gwargis 22 Malmo, Jason Kodor 17 Lecce. Have you got these guys to play for Australia on fm?
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Tbh I dgaf anymore own grown or not - especially a striker. We have shot blanks up front for decades.
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+x Would we have been able to lure Christian Vieri away from the Italian national team? What would it have 'cost'? The only "cost" would have been for the whole of the Australian football community buying into support of the local professional game from 1977 onwards and seeing past their assimilationist racial xenophobic instincts.....
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Would we have been able to lure Christian Vieri away from the Italian national team? What would it have 'cost'?
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+xi guess you would need to look at FM2018 to check Souttar's status? Reason Im curious is because if his aussie status isn't listed thats reassuring that there are probably a zillion others with aussie eligibility not listed... heaps not listed. One from recent years I would have loved to see was Georgie Samaras Samaras was eligible to play for the Australian national team. His father, Ioannis, was born in Melbourne, but moved to Greece at the age of 13, and had a successful football career, playing for OFI, Panathinaikos, and Greece. [155] Additionally, his grandfather (also Georgios) was one of the founding members of South Melbourne FC. Although Samaras considered playing for Australia, he was never approached by Football Federation Australia and chose to play for the country of his birth. [156]
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+xi guess you would need to look at FM2018 to check Souttar's status? Reason Im curious is because if his aussie status isn't listed thats reassuring that there are probably a zillion others with aussie eligibility not listed... I remember playing as Stoke (maybe even 2017?) and seeing this lanky 51 rated centre back without a photo. After an update, Australia was the nationality. Even then it felt like he wasn't even a real person and it was tough to find details I thought he was just a CPU. Thing is, even at 51, the towering headers and occasional long ball, I thought this name is one to watch. Probably my favourite national team player nowadays.
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i guess you would need to look at FM2018 to check Souttar's status?
Reason Im curious is because if his aussie status isn't listed thats reassuring that there are probably a zillion others with aussie eligibility not listed...
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+x+x+xA list of some young players playing out side of Australia with Aus duel nationality. Dimitris Valkanis 17 AEK, Tommy Whitehead 15 Bournemouth, Matteo Mazzone 18 Wolfsburg, Liam Chipperfield 20 Sion, Noa Skoko 17 Hajduk Split, Oscar Bouyer 19 IFK Berga, Peter Gwargis 22 Malmo, Jason Kodor 17 Lecce. nice list. Any strikers that are playing at a decent level that have made their competitive debuts? Not that I could find, btw I'm using the football manager 24 database and looking at players with Australia as their 2nd nationality. ah nice wonder if souttar's was listed. There could be a ton we have never heard of
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+x+xA list of some young players playing out side of Australia with Aus duel nationality. Dimitris Valkanis 17 AEK, Tommy Whitehead 15 Bournemouth, Matteo Mazzone 18 Wolfsburg, Liam Chipperfield 20 Sion, Noa Skoko 17 Hajduk Split, Oscar Bouyer 19 IFK Berga, Peter Gwargis 22 Malmo, Jason Kodor 17 Lecce. nice list. Any strikers that are playing at a decent level that have made their competitive debuts? Not that I could find, btw I'm using the football manager 24 database and looking at players with Australia as their 2nd nationality.
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grazorblade
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+xA list of some young players playing out side of Australia with Aus duel nationality. Dimitris Valkanis 17 AEK, Tommy Whitehead 15 Bournemouth, Matteo Mazzone 18 Wolfsburg, Liam Chipperfield 20 Sion, Noa Skoko 17 Hajduk Split, Oscar Bouyer 19 IFK Berga, Peter Gwargis 22 Malmo, Jason Kodor 17 Lecce. nice list. Any strikers that are playing at a decent level that have made their competitive debuts?
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A list of some young players playing out side of Australia with Aus duel nationality. Dimitris Valkanis 17 AEK, Tommy Whitehead 15 Bournemouth, Matteo Mazzone 18 Wolfsburg, Liam Chipperfield 20 Sion, Noa Skoko 17 Hajduk Split, Oscar Bouyer 19 IFK Berga, Peter Gwargis 22 Malmo, Jason Kodor 17 Lecce.
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Surely theres some shit hot u23's striker out there in the Balkans with a grandparent born over here...
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Decentric 2
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Interesting read! Thanks for posting MCG. Qatar basically has a team of mercenaries playing. I've never been happy with Fornaroli playing, with no Aussie heritage but given the loss of Aussies, I'm pleased Souttar and Boyle have donned the green and gold. Not sure Geraint Jones is good enough? Indonesia have a diaspora of players with tenuous Indo heritage - many of who struggled with the Indo heat and humidity hen they played us.
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Might work out for Australia in 20/30 years considering most people 20-30 are moving away from Aus.
Australians moving to Spain, Brits moving to Australia.
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I wonder if there is a euro striker and rb with dual nationality
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