a return to the Australia defence for former Newcastle Jet - and expected Melbourne Heart signing - Michael Beauchamp

think you mean mariner mate, not the best mistake to make ;)


What do you think about the FourFourTwo article Pim's World Cup Squad - LIVE?
PIM Verbeek names the most important squad of his Socceroos career this morning when the 30 men vying to go to South Africa are announced - and you can discuss it with your FFT panel of experts

Have your say.

Um, when Is it realeased?

Jizz

http://media.theage.com.au/live-socceroos-world-cup-squad-announced-1433053.html

For streaming. :)

I cant get the live chat as i am phone. Can someone please post the squad here when its out

http://twitter.com/Socceroos">Twitter

Hit up that man, it's on there.

oh no the irish qantas dude said "soocer" oops

http://www.abc.net.au/streaming/abc-video2.asx
better legal live stream.

31 PLAYERS!

Now online - giggity.

wow james holland. good.

My PC isn't able to stream. Can someone please post the list of players announced so far?

I'm so disappointed that Carle is in there.

+1 :-({|=

Edited by Shar: 11/5/2010 11:22:41 AM

+1

Bloody work computers.

http://www.abc.net.au/streaming/abc-video2.asx

That's the only stream that's working for me. The others are crap.

Excuse any mistakes please, I'm at work too haha. Lunch time here though.

Beauchamp
Bresciano
Cahill
Carle
Carney
Chipperfield
Culina
Vidosic
Valeri
Ruka
Schwarzer
Oar
North
Moore
Milligan
McDonald
Lowry
Kewell
Kennedy
Jones
Jedinak
Holman
Holland
Grella
Garcia
Galekovic - standby
Emerton
Federici
Williams
Wilkshire
Neill

Tommy Oar in the provisional squad! No Leckie...

Damn, stream is delayed. :(

Edited by martyB: 11/5/2010 11:24:41 AM

Beauchamp? Ah well....no spira probably then. Carle! Great to see he got in the team! Federici...Great to see. Galekovic! Good to see! Holman.....Meh. Lowrey...wow. Tommy Oar BRillianT! Well done Tommy Oar and well done Frank Farina for selecting him at such a young age!!

James Holland is a big surprise. As is Garcia for me.

Ruka is in.

Edited by socceroossupporter: 11/5/2010 11:24:49 AM

valeri
rukavytsa

Woo! Vidosic!!

vidosic
wilkshire

i think its a good squad and hopefully all the lads can stay fit and give pim headaches on june 1.

Hmm thanks, so the 8 culls for final 23 I'd expect:

Carle
Beauchamp
Vidosic
Lowry
Holland
Garcia
Galekovic
North

Although personally I really hope Carle goes over he who shall not be named :P
And I prefer Galekovic went too.

How many A-League players, past or present?

Garcia was a surprise inclusion for me

Frickin hell, go away Carle.

No colosimo. I though he would have at least made an extended 30 man squad

Jesse Fink will be a happy man. At least for a week or two.

Carle, Moore, Beauchamp and he considered Kemp..... he is on the fucking wacky tobacy.

No Sterjovski.

Will he also take some development players like how Guus took three?? Or is that holland??

get over it Robbie Slater. pim has always said that the a-league was never up to that standard, so dont bitch about a-league players not getting picked.

and he considered steffanuto

lets face it, he had a shit season and hasnt made any impressions.

"Kemp"

LOL Kemp gets considered and one of our most in form players atm, Joel Griffiths does not? Not saying either should go I just think its a bit fascicle Kemp was even in the picture.

Michael Beachamp WTF?

no Killkenny?

A pity, eh? He was always a solid Socceroo, but Dave Mitchell killed his chances. :cry:

Holman!!!!!!! Leave him off the plane please

They all deserve their chance.

Don't forget, most of these guys are the ones that got them there. All of the nations in the world use this as a selection criteria.

31 including galekovic means 8 cuts to be made.. Hmm my breakdown of it:

Galekovic, lowry, holland, Garcia are fairly certain to be cut you'd think.

Which leaves beauchamp and north to battle for final defence position (both trash I'd prefer sasa or even spira but oh well). On that would probably give to north due to playing at higher level/more versatile.

Also, one of jedinak or valeri will surely be cut due to our amount of DM's. I'd personally prefer jedinak.

Leaving carle, holman, vidosic and oar battling for final 2 midfield spots.hmm I've got no idea on that one what you guys rekon?

Glad he wasnt picked.... He has been great for the game and the socceroos in the past. However no one can say over the last year he has played well enough to be on the plane...

Edited for accuracy.

^Holman and Vidosic will be preferred i think.

Of those I think Vidosic should be a certainty, and it would be a tricky decision between Carle and Oar. Totally different players really.

@ Stifle'rs mum. Michael Beachamp WTF? x 1 million.

Pim's decision to shore up the central defense, over Ognenovski. FARRRK

The guy is a disaster waiting to happen. If he takes the filed as a centreback we are screwed.

I challenge anyone to give me a solid argument as to why Carle should go ahead of Holman.

None of this Carle has flair, Holman has a horrible touch shit I want real evidence proving Carle is better than Holman.

TOMMY OAR!!! lowry is no good, rather take colos, og or spira.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1mvlNK3aG8&feature=player_embedded

Edited by russjb: 11/5/2010 12:00:36 PM

Beauchamp probably there cause hes got height and german experience but doubt he'll play.

Bottom line is, no surprises from Pim today. He put off the real decision making till another day.

Assuming we have three players not on the plane due to injuries, it will be the other 5 left out that will be revealingly interesting decisions.

Are these guys going into camp now?

Only surprise for me is no Colosimo. Please take Oar AND Carle. I will never understand why Pim keeps picking Holman...perhaps he likes his hair band?

the best i can give you is that Holman has shown continuously that he can not gell with the National side. He fails in front of goal, does not read passes or able to see clear paths in counter attacks. He is a quality club player just not national.

As for Carle, He does gell especially since he gets about 10 minutes a game, he is explosive and great foot work. He also seems to try and fit an entire games worth of skill in to his brief forays in to matches. He can be a game changer.

Are you joking mate I have seen better free kicks in the Over 35 womens G's.

Beauchamp, Holland and Lowry are the real surprises imo. There are some good up and coming players in this squad, but I am totally worried about the central defence.

On the evidence of the last 12 months I'd leave them both out.

Can someone explain how PV can pick Moore, Miligan, Noth and Beauchamp over Spiranovic, Ogdenovski, Bosnar, and Colisimo?

Several duds in the squad, BUT, we all knew that and depth aint, nor ever has been our strong suit.

Viduka would be at the same level of fitness as Moore.. PV is on crack

Oops actually meant to post his LOL wrong window

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1mvlNK3aG8&feature=player_embedded#!

Yes, Pim thinks they are better.

The big shock has to be no Sterjovski. Was handy in qualifying.

You seem to be suggesting others were picked on form.?
Carle?

If you made two teams from this list (20 outfield + 3 keepers) no-one could really argue that this is pretty much how we will line up…

Schwarzer

Wilkshire Neil Moore Chipperfield

Grella Culina

Emerton Bresciano
Cahill
Kewell


Then I guess you need cover for every position so Pim will probably pick lets say

2nd team


Federici
Williams Milligan North Carney
Valeri Jedinak
Vidosic Holman Rukavytsya
Kennedy

+ Galekovic or Jones as the third keeper (2nd 3rd whatever its not important right now)



Doing it this way would leave these omissions

Lowry Beachamp Garcia Holland Carle Mcdonald Jones (that’s only 7 not 8…im confused…anyways…)


Will take Mcdonald at the expense of Valeri or Jedinak as we have other players that can cover DM ie. Wilkshire, Williams etc…

For the sheer hell of it, can someone compile two lists for me please:
1) guys who played in WC qualifiers but have NOT been picked today (Sterjovski, Coyne come to mind)
2) guys who DID NOT play in WC qualifiers (or only some)but HAVE been picked today?

My guess is that neither Bosnar, nor Ognenovski, nor Griffiths, are in either of the above categories, which probably explains a lot.

He stated he'd be taking a few on top of the 23, I got the feeling 3 or 4. But they will be reserves.

Out of the 31 the 8 that should miss out are-

Brad Jones, Jade North, Shane Lowry, Carl Valeri, Richard Garcia, Dario Vidisic, James Holland and Brett Holman.

He stated Galekovic is cover if any of the other three are injured.

JONES, FEDERICI AND SHWARZER ARE THE OFFICIAL KEEPERS.
So let's get that one right Galekovic is only going if there is an injury to one of those three. Pims words.

Moore proved himself at the start of WCQ, at the end id say he was slowly losing his spot but did enough at the start to keep himself there, its really my only explanation. Spira – not enough game time, Og – never picked in a squad so unproven at this level, Colismo – Id love to see him there but Korean bungle screwed him up and to be fair when he got his chance albeit 1 from memory didnt do enough to impress, Bosnar – same as the Og reason.

People who think Pim is going to choose someone he hasnt done so before are quite deluded. Hell if I was in his position I wouldnt and couldnt unless for extreme circumstances. Fortunately our injury crisis isnt that bad.

agree with you on vidosic. Could probably separate those 4 into vido vs carle and holman vs oar due to similar playing styles. I can see vidosic and holman making the team on that logic. Vidosic far more potential then carle and has youth on his side. Holman has been in the team the whole campaign and can't see him missing out.

On different topic I'm keen to see a few young players taken along for the experience. Lowry, vidosic (if misses out), oar and langerak would benefit from the experience and are no doubt gonna be playing a part in the socceroo's for a while yet.

To be culled:

Oar
Galekovic
North
Holland
Beauchamp
Garcia
Lowry

Out of the 2 most controversal players I think both Holman and Carle will be kept. Holman for workman nuisance value and Carle for his X factor. Actually I think playing them both could be very interesting........8-[

MGA it's pim, could you ever see him playing both carle and holman, let alone playing car for an extended period of time...

replace Carle with Lowry and you have my thoughts. Oar was a bit surprising to though I think having young dudes is a good thing.

Beauchamp ROFL

Was a small part of what I was saying...
I think that the starting line up picks itself but the cover for a fe positions isnt really as bad as I guess I feared(apart from the defence of course). Only Williams out of the defensive line cover doesnt scare me. carney not too bad though has to tug at a few shirts when caught too far forward...

Beauchamp is OK by me, but I have a problem with Brad Jones in goal.

I reckon the starting 11 is far from settled given the questions around form and fitness of a number of players. The following battles should make for interesting training:

- Moore V's Beauchamp/Milligan for CB
- Wilkshire V's Carney/Lowry for LB
- Emerton V's Williams for RB
- Culina V's Jedinak for DM
- Kewell V's Oar/Carle for LM
- Bresciano V's Chipperfield/Vidosic for RM
- Kennedy V's McDonald/Rukavytsya for CF

True...true... Shame really, Carle with tricks to a play the ball to Holman who usually gets into good positions (pitty about his touch or shooting though...) I'd still like to see what happens. :-k

You would leave out a guy who is playing at one of the top 1 leagues in the world who got an assist and ran play for his team against Arsenal :?

im not that dissapointed. Beside Brosque, Sasha and Bosnar, I would not have much different. I dont like Moore, too old, too slow. Dont like Holman, well, I'm preaching to the choir. Richard Garcia is a bit of a nothing player, all due respect. However, like Guus did 4 years ago, he's taking members for the next generation which is terrific. They wont play, even though i think they pretty much all should. Holland would be better than Garcia. Milligan for sure. Vidosic makes my 23. Ruka has pace. These blokes should make it. Its very weird, this squad tells us Aust football is right on the cusp of transition. We needed youth now and thankfully Pim has given a parting gift even if we bundle out in group.
Must say finally, today was a little awkward. Outside these boys, there really isn't much to choose from. Its not as important as the June 1 announcement. I'm much more worried about which 7 players will be culled. Its obvious the Oar's and Holland's will be the extras outside the 23.
Anyway, pretty much the best we've got. It'll be a squad based on hard work and toilers. We'll need somethin special from Timmy, Harry or Bresc to do anything. We'll all be watching. cannot wait for Germany

I did find "Socceroos WC squad LUVE" to be ammusing.

No realy surprises in the squad apart from Carle and Beauchamp. Bit of a slap in the face to Bosnar though, including Beauchamp ahead of him.

Then why bother then, honestly - nothing more than a token jesture at best.

if we are all correct then we might have 12 A-Leaugers and none comming from the only team thats done anything outside the A-Leauge.

The way hes been slaging the a-leauge its shows he's nothing more than a hypocrite - unless he thinks playing against Asian teams is a worse standard


Edited by UnitedGal: 11/5/2010 09:48:14 PM