i think canberra is a stuff up
they should build a tiny shed



What do you think about the FourFourTwo article Three New Grounds For Oz World Cup?
NEW stadiums will be built in Perth, Canberra and the Blacktown area of Sydney with nine others upgraded should Australia succeed in landing the 2018 or 2022 World Cup.

Have your say.

Upgrade the bubble to 40k, have the finals at melbourne hace the socceroos games in melbourne!

No world cup legacy for adelaide :( Thank you Mike Rann for keeping us a pissant town, you wanker!

The bottom bowl of the AO development appears to be retractable stands. If that is the case then there is a legacy for football. I also understand that their are works proposed at at least one other venue in Adelaide as a training ground.

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I’m glad we won’t have to suffer the indignation of holding a world cup without the national capitals involvement. Pity we have to endure the embarrassment of having a domestic league without a team from the capital city though.

The bubble dome can be upgraded to 40k

Dont think the FFA thought very much about this.

Melbourne to be bigger then Sydney by 2018/2022.

Yet we have 1 stadia, and they have 3..

It's just that Sydney has the FFA, Lowy and the Rugby's that have been a little nicer towards the whole thing. Melbourne has Dick-head Dimetrieu (however you spell it... who really cares) and the very affraid AFL being well... dickheads.

Sorry Adelaide ya don't cut it!! The land of the bogan, the pie floater and that funny little Hindmarsh stadim miles from anywhere will only embarress us!!

Everywhere I look I see this nonsense about Melbourne being bigger than Sydney by 2022. This story was put out in 2008 when The Vics updated their population projections. They compared their 2008 projections with the ABS projections based on the 2006 Census. At the time it was correct, however, the latest projections for Sydney issued by the NSW Planning Dept have Sydney's population still 450k greater than Melbourne's out as far as 2036. Sydney had a big slump in growth between 2001 and 2006 but since 2006 has returned to its normal growth rate.

So does this mean if we get the world cup and they build a new stadiumat blacktown the Rovers will have that as there home stadium.

the proposed redevelopment of skilled stadium in geelong actually doesn't look too bad.
they'll be building the seats in and its almost rectangular..to a point where the corner of the pitch actually cuts into the stands.

Again Brookvale Oval misses out on funding lol. What a venue that would have been for visiting teams; the beautiful Northern Beaches. I suppose transport would have been an issue. Would have given the gov't reason to finally build the long overdue Railway to the Peninsula. If anybody wants to get up me about this post, I'm only kidding. What more can they do with stadium australia? It held 110,000 with the end stands then they demolished those. Are they going to waste money building new stands again then ripping them out. I favour building new end stands and keeping them to maintain capacity at over 100,000.

Hindmarsh is 5 min out of the city. Skinet have you even ever been to adelaide you wanker.

So if we do get the world cup would a Canberra team occupy the new stadium. You may as well. No point converting it into a shopping centre.

Yes it does. Ian Rowden was quoted in the herald saying he'd love for the team to play there. It will be reduced to 26k after the wc which is a perfect size and we would be the only tenants.

Lol... the development of energy australia stadium in newcastle will upset many bogans... they will never go to knights games again cause they don't have the "hill" where they can sit...

Oh, and hindmarsh is actually a good stadium. I went there for the first time on wednesday night for the acl (just moved to adelaide) and its really well set out. You could even develop that possibly to a bigger capacity (i don't know how much room they would need to build up. Adelaide oval would be slightly more convenient though

I forgot to say that hindmarsh actually feels like a football stadium... kind of reminded me of the small european grounds as opposed to our multi purpose stadiums we have here which don't always suit football

yeah lets just build all of the stadia as temporary and embarrass ourselves even more. Subiaco upgraded will still be crap

upgraded subi was always going to happen. lame as.

The main problem is the WA government will be involved with the Subiaco upgrade, if they had to build a sandcastle down the beach they couldnt do it within budget let alone properly

Whether we win the WC bid or not, one thing Australia urgently requires is a third and fourth media voice, independent newspapers, because all that Murdochs newpapers erve us on a daily basis is an entre of scandal and trivia, a main course of hollywood gossip and b..shit and desert of Rugny League and AFL....that is what you and i are forced to consumer every single day....that is enough to spew on....please wake up Australia....we are not living in the dark ages anymore..we need choice...football needs its own voice its own newspaper support

All this debate about population size is ridiculous.

So Melbourne will have more people than Sydney eh? Just like Mexico City has more people than Sydney too?

Point is. It's completely irrelevant.

More and more I get the feeling Australia will not win a World Cup this time around.
2018 is almost 99% certain to go to Europe and I reckon the USA will get there for 2022.
Seeing this stadium story makes me not so worried about that. Football deserves more quality stadiums in each state (not basically providing new stadiums for the AFL).
With the Force and Glory in Perth, WA can surely justify a decent stadium of around 40-50k in the next 20 years. Maybe in that time the Rebels, Storm, Victory and Heart can do enough to warrant expanding the Bubble Dome (even though the stupid architects made that roof that'll cost a motsa to take take down again).
Disappointing that the World Cup will basically benefit AFL more than football under this current plan.

Haha Blacktown. And they thought South Africa is bad!

It's abit difficult to actually have more than 2 in Melbourne, because you've got the G... Etihad was the peace deal with the AFL which had to be made, and the Bubbledome can't now be extended as originally intended because they'll have to dismantle the Dome and then reconstruct it which was the longest part of the actual construction... unless you build another purpose built arena in melbourne i don't see how it's possible....

BUT, the travel distance from the centre of Melbourne to Geelong is what 45mins-1hour (a rough estimation from the bus trip from Southern Cross station to Avalon airpost which isn't far from Geelong)... and you compare that to the travel distance from the SFS to Blacktown is roughly the same, probably more actually.

Victoria could have potentially had Geelong, MCG and Etihad but you had the AFL hold it to ransom and that's the result you get

Would have prefered new stadium be built in SE Melbourne or Penrith instead of Blacktown

Legacy wise a stadia in Melbourne dosen't really warrant it... there was a large push for a highly developed Campbelltown, the NRL was heavily pushing for it in there negotiations so the Wests Tigers could use it as their full time base, but the FFA have steaked there claim in the war for Western Sydney where Blacktown is the epicenter... it's a 15 minute walk from the station, hey it's alot better than having it in Blacktown than a place like Rustenberg is you want to compare our bid to SA

Ah I think the "Staff Writer" got 'Blacktown' confused with 'Bankstown,' because the latter certainly IS in Sydney's South West, but the former, where the WC will be ofcourse, is actually located west of Parramatta, which is more Sydney's greater west, or North West even.

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blacktown, thats funny!! more chance of getting mugged there than in south africa!!!

Maybe i should swing by Broad Meadows once in a while

Subiaco is not going to be upgraded. It is going to be torn down and rebuilt. Which is a complete mistake. I think they should build a new one in Perth and keep subi.

As long as we have cricket venues listed, were not getting anything. I'd be embarassed to bring the footballing world to stadiums that were never built for the sport.

Imagine seeing the fixture list with the final Team A v Team B - Melbourne Cricket Ground.

Blacktown is a mistake. South west area is the best place. They have lost the southern corridor now.

The population projections for the North Western area centred on Blacktown for 2021 is 945,000 and for the South Western area from Liverpool through to Wollondilly is 593,00. The numbers have it for Blacktown and the South West will have to wait.

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doctor, off topic. but sure yeah

Blacktown is also good because its just off the m7 n m4 so if yu lived in the south western district u could just hop on the m5 then m7 n u'll be there in 20 - 25 mins

Blacktown Stadium will proly be built near the Kellyville/Hills district where all the growth/development is, far from the house-o's, lebs & troublemakers in Bankstown

You put a stadium anywhere in Blacktown and it's gonna be far from Bankstown:lol:

http://www.australia2018-2022.com.au/australias-bid_stadiums_blacktown-stadium---sydney.aspx

Don't tell me: all three will be oval-shaped and will be shared with the eggball codes, meaning the pitches will be turned into horse paddocks. with With some Rugby player's names on the stadia, with statues of some bull-neck neanderthal at the entrances.

The 4 week circus will come and go, but there is nothing being left for OUR game after OUR World Cup that we can call OURS.

Gyfox,

That doesn't make alot of sense since the new release growth areas in the south is 1.5 times larger then the north. Campbelttown and Blactown have been competing for the fastest growth areas in Australia now for some years.

My point more being that the southern corridor does not have easy access to stadium where as Blacktown has access (better then the southern corridor) to ANZ/Parramatta stadiums.

Building yet another stadium up there "north of the parramatta river" doesn't really make much sense.

:-s
Blacktown is going to be rectangular so that GWS haven't got a facility at Blacktown unless the AFL pay for it themselves because the NSW State Govt. won't fund a facility for GWS. Perth is going to be a multi purpose facility, more like ANZ Stadium than a bigger fancier Subiaco, they probably needed a multi purpose facility like this to get funding from the WA Govt. to build it. Canberra will be a rectangular stadium apart of the AIS facilities... it's most likely that the current Canberra stadium will be redone to be created into a AFL ground possibly and that the new Canberra stadium will be used by the Canberra A-League side and the League and Rugby teams... the facilities will probably be used by Rugby codes but i think if we're getting a new facility and it's being used by an A-League team and International matches (i.e Perth will now get International matches now because of this multi purpose facility because they have the facilities)



that's like saying that the England 2018 bid shouldn't have a ground in Liverpool or in the East End area near West Ham where the new Olympic Stadium will because they're touted as problem areas for crime... pffffft

The NSW Planning Department issued population predictions for all NSW Local Government Areas and Regions on 6 April 2010. The South West Region including Liverpool, Campbelltown, Camden and Wollondilly will have a population of 452,000 in 2011 growing to 593,000 in 2021. The North West Region including Blue Mountains, Hawkesbury, Baulkham Hills and Blacktown will have a population of 801,000 in 2011 growing to 945,000 in 2021. If you look at the projections out to 2036 the North West will still have a population 281,000 greater than the South West.

What is needed in a World Cup venue other than capacity is transport access/parking and FIFA's required VIP, Hospitality and Commercial villages. The Blacktown site is ideal in this regard being located immediately next to a railway line and a motorway and only 2km from the intersection of the major north/south and east/west motorways with ample space for parking and FIFA's village requirements.

Looking at the development of Orana Park, now Campbelltown Stadium, the South West region has the makings of a very good stadium. It now has a capacity of 20,000 with 13,500 seats while in the early 80's it was not much more than a paddock. With further government funding it will become the equal of Bluetongue and Hindmarsh Stadiums and be more than adequate for a "Macarthur' A-League team.

I lived in Ruse throughout the 80's and I have a soft spot for the town but for a World Cup venue the numbers and other factors don't stack up as well as Blacktown. Now if you look at it from a Rugby League viewpoint you might come up with a different answer but this is a Football development for the World Cup.

PS. The Blacktown Stadium is also perfectly located to make use of Football NSW's Valentine Sports Park and Riverstone West Academy developments as training venues for World Cup teams.


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