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yayah What do you think about the FourFourTwo article Smeltz Goal Sinks Serbia? SHANE Smeltz scored New Zealand's winner in a 1-0 triumph over Australia's Group D rivals Serbia - a match marred by crowd disturbances.Have your say.
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For selfish Australian loving reasons, it was awesome to see the hot blooded Serbian fans pile the mental pressure on the already vulnerable (upstairs) Serbian team. Plus the teams arrogance and lack of respect reveals how ill prepared they are to handle the difficulties that will face them in the month of June. This ain't going to be like qualifiers at home with pissant away games down the road! While Slavic teams are renowned for crumbling when it gets tough (eg: Croatia circa '06 and Yugolsavia '98), Australia and Germany have proven how well they can prepare for a tournament and punch above their weight. Meanwhile The Serbs are so close to self imploding and they haven't left the country yet... Brilliant!
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well... continent.
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good on you new zealand!!
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good on you new zealand!!
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Great result New Zealand, hopefully we can perform as well and Sebia play as badly in our group match!
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Quaker - got it in one, spot on.
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and before some of you Aussies start claiming "they didn't even have their first team out...." BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.
they were only missing Ivanovic and Stankovic and maybe one more. Vidic was playing and Fallon was winning everything in the air and even set up the goal from beating the twat (Vidic).
NZ had first team players missing like Brown, Killen Macglinchey and had a 3 man defence that had never played together before. Reid-Nelsen-Smith
we did well and are only improving after every game.
watch out Italy !!!!!!!!
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This is a great Result for us Serbia will lose lots of moral losing to NZ also it shws u that we can be the Serbs if the Kiwis can most of there 1st team played. Well done NZ good results
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Rebecca West (an English author and travel writer) once said that Quote:...acceptance of tragedy…is the basis of Slav life Clearly the Serb fans hadn't heard that one before... [youtube]7W1kJ7rfrBo[/youtube] Edited by Yet Another User Name: 30/5/2010 12:32:46 PM
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Well done NZ! and well done smeltzy. He's always been a grea finisher. Watch out serbia the socceroos are coming!
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Well this is making me feel alittle bit better about making it through our group at the World Cup.
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bobbyR wrote:and before some of you Aussies start claiming "they didn't even have their first team out...." BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.
I applaud the NZ result... and I was expecting someone to raise this as well. It kind of reminds me when English fans go on about the 3-1 loss to us as "we made 11 changes!!@#!@#" and expect that is some sort of defence. Australia was 2-0 up at half time against the FIRST CHOICE line up for England. New Zealand went 1-0 up after 22 minutes against the first team line up in that game. The 7 changes Serbia made surely weren't before then, were they? Again, well done NZ. I have actually tipped you to get out of the group stage... kiss of death, perhaps.
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I disagree with the idea that Balkan teams have weak mentalities. Quite frankly the idea is a little bit racist. Did Croatia finish 3rd at France 98' with a weak mind-set? Did Serbia top their qualification group because they are mentally fickle and weak? The idea stems from the way the old Yugoslav teams, and to a lesser extent Serbia&Montenegro, failed to gel as cohesive units due to internal national divisions. Well that is now a bygone era. Balkan teams, like all teams, sometimes lose games they shouldn’t. The only difference is that every time a Balkan team is upset people put it down to a so-called weak mentality while other teams are said to have just had an off-day.
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Hey Sydneycroatia What are ya gunna say about this result ya tosser? You have jawed off for weeks about how good the Serbs are and look at this pathetic result against ostensibly a New Zealand B Team. LOL at you dude big time, Big time. Great result for the Kiwis to stick it up ostensibly another completely overated team from Europe. All the best to New Zealand in the WC may this be the first of many scalps. Serbia dark horses for the WC no!! just white fairies!!
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Yeah I was impressed at the All Whites improvements against Bakrain and Australia. And I won some money on today's game by backing the All Whites! They rock hard with some underrated players like Smeltz, Nelsen etc. They are like we were in 2006 and I wont be suprised to see them qualify for the round of 16. And I expect us to top our group against the odds, then to beat England 3-1 again in the round of 16. But anyway, crack on you Kiwis, up the ANZACs and come on Aussie! Oh, and fuck off Big Dukes, yeah the Yugoslavs are shit sportsmen and will never get anywhere unlike the Antipodeans who always punch above our weight in olympics, cricket, football, rugby, whatever. It's not racist because Serbs are the same race as Kiwis (white), it's just that Serbs aren't as good at football as Kiwis are. As today's result irrefutably demonstrates.
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Good result to New Zealand.
Means nothing in regards to Australia's chances. Australia and Serbia were both outplayed by NZ and they deserved to win both. Just like our form against NZ will probably not be the standard in the cup, Serbia's wont either.
Don't get ahead of ourselves...
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i hope everyone realises this means we'll get done 3-0 n new zealand peaked to early n had their one 'upset' win so im tipping they wont score a goal at the wc
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bobbyR wrote: they were only missing Ivanovic and Stankovic and maybe one more
Milan Jovanovic and Milos Krasic out wide
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No Kamaryn, I think it does bear on Aussie chances. Just like the Kiwis were written off against Serbia and jsut like the Iraqis were written off in the last AFC Cup, we are written off against Germany. But we can beat them like the Kiwis beat Serbia because the truth is that any football team that is not from Europe, or is not Ivory Coast/Brazil/Argentina is underrated on the world stage. I expect the Koreans and USA to punch above their weight too.
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you can miss whoever you like out wide but if you don't have the depth and the coach then you might get beat by indonesia or nz lol...
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Gentlemen, Although, taking nothing away from NZ. All these games are trials & experimental. Hence NZ must ask the question, where Serbia in 5th gear? Probably not, more like 2nd and the NZ, like against Australia, where in 5th gear. NZ must realise that Serbia and Australia where in cruse control & NZ where flat out. To Serbia and Australia the NZ match was a training run, a warm up for the big event. NZ are taking these games way more seriouse than they should. Still all our opinions will be sorted out when the "real" games begin. Yes NZ beat Serbia, but dont get too excited, the men are yet to be seperated from the boys.
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I most of the second half of this game and NZ were fortunate not to concede a goal on a few occasions, but Smeltz's goal was well taken. bobbyR wrote:and before some of you Aussies start claiming "they didn't even have their first team out...." BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.
they were only missing Ivanovic and Stankovic and maybe one more. Vidic was playing and Fallon was winning everything in the air and even set up the goal from beating the twat (Vidic).
NZ had first team players missing like Brown, Killen Macglinchey and had a 3 man defence that had never played together before. Reid-Nelsen-Smith
we did well and are only improving after every game.
watch out Italy !!!!!!!! Didn't the All Whites beat Italy in a lead up game to last year's Confederations Cup?
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bobbyR wrote:and before some of you Aussies start claiming "they didn't even have their first team out...." BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.
they were only missing Ivanovic and Stankovic and maybe one more. Vidic was playing and Fallon was winning everything in the air and even set up the goal from beating the twat (Vidic).
NZ had first team players missing like Brown, Killen Macglinchey and had a 3 man defence that had never played together before. Reid-Nelsen-Smith
we did well and are only improving after every game.
watch out Italy !!!!!!!! Ivanovic, Stankovic, Krasic, jovanvoic, Lukovic - they didnt play at all
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That's right Albundysfc - they are experimental matches. The Serbs experimented and failed. Perhaps it's them that have no plan B?
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This friendly will be forgotten when the World Cup starts. Great moral boast for NZ though.
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skinet wrote:Hey Sydneycroatia What are ya gunna say about this result ya tosser? You have jawed off for weeks about how good the Serbs are and look at this pathetic result against ostensibly a New Zealand B Team. LOL at you dude big time, Big time. Great result for the Kiwis to stick it up ostensibly another completely overated team from Europe. All the best to New Zealand in the WC may this be the first of many scalps. Serbia dark horses for the WC no!! just white fairies!! Ok. Pre-World Cup friendly, not really that much to get to happy about. Spain got lucky beating Saudi Arabia who couldn't beat Bahrain who New Zealand beat so does that mean Spain are going to struggle at the WC. No. It doesn't mean shit. Portugal couldn't beat Cape Verde does that mean they are going to flop at the WC. No. People need to stop getting ahead of themselves and not worry about other teams pre-world cup friendlies and just worry about our own. We need to accept that all 3 teams in our group are going to cause us big problems and all 3 are quality teams not just put them down after 2 result.
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some kiwis (bobbyR) needs to chill and realise that most aussies are actually supporting NZ in the world cup and hoping they do well. obviously we'll be giving you shit when we play you..its called sport and rivalry. get used to it.
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:skinet wrote:Hey Sydneycroatia What are ya gunna say about this result ya tosser? You have jawed off for weeks about how good the Serbs are and look at this pathetic result against ostensibly a New Zealand B Team. LOL at you dude big time, Big time. Great result for the Kiwis to stick it up ostensibly another completely overated team from Europe. All the best to New Zealand in the WC may this be the first of many scalps. Serbia dark horses for the WC no!! just white fairies!! Ok. Pre-World Cup friendly, not really that much to get to happy about. Spain got lucky beating Saudi Arabia who couldn't beat Bahrain who New Zealand beat so does that mean Spain are going to struggle at the WC. No. It doesn't mean shit. Portugal couldn't beat Cape Verde does that mean they are going to flop at the WC. No. People need to stop getting ahead of themselves and not worry about other teams pre-world cup friendlies and just worry about our own. We need to accept that all 3 teams in our group are going to cause us big problems and all 3 are quality teams not just put them down after 2 result. TBH I don't think Portugal will make it out of their group
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Guest wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote:skinet wrote:Hey Sydneycroatia What are ya gunna say about this result ya tosser? You have jawed off for weeks about how good the Serbs are and look at this pathetic result against ostensibly a New Zealand B Team. LOL at you dude big time, Big time. Great result for the Kiwis to stick it up ostensibly another completely overated team from Europe. All the best to New Zealand in the WC may this be the first of many scalps. Serbia dark horses for the WC no!! just white fairies!! Ok. Pre-World Cup friendly, not really that much to get to happy about. Spain got lucky beating Saudi Arabia who couldn't beat Bahrain who New Zealand beat so does that mean Spain are going to struggle at the WC. No. It doesn't mean shit. Portugal couldn't beat Cape Verde does that mean they are going to flop at the WC. No. People need to stop getting ahead of themselves and not worry about other teams pre-world cup friendlies and just worry about our own. We need to accept that all 3 teams in our group are going to cause us big problems and all 3 are quality teams not just put them down after 2 result. TBH I don't think Portugal will make it out of their group Well that's on account of them having an extremely tough group that can go either way. My point is not to just judge someone's World Cup performance based on friendly performances. If we are to do that then Australia will struggle as well.
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Quaker, you could be right. But better to fail in a warm up, than at the WC. Sometimes a loss, in this situation, is the best thing for a team. Lets them have a good hard look at themselves, make them more focused.
Or on the other hand a win could do the opposite. Give the team a false belief of there ability. False dawn if you will.
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tfozz - in NZ this friendly will not be forgotten for decades to come.
ALBUNDYSFC - I think you're being too kind for Australia in saying how they were in cruise control while NZ was in 5th gear. In the game against Australia, despite being ahead we still did some substitutions (some forced due to Australian barbarism, while others done to test players in different positions). Whole point of this paragraph - don't flatter yourselves.
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For the record I do think Serbia will beat Australia. Even with a few top players out. I'd be happy to see Australia win as I do support them but I don't think it'll happen.
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Take your point loyalgunner. But Oz team that played NZ was not the first 11, can the same be said for NZ? And the Aussie come off the back of hard core training camp.
As for "barbarism" I can not debate it. What Vinnie and Cahill did can have no defence. Red card, no questions. I just hope Bertos will be ok for the WC.
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Fair point about the first 11 thing but we were still being experimental too. And the thing about hard-core training is their own fault, really. If they'd been forced to run 30km the day before to evade terrorists then I'd accept it but if the coaching staff who themselves are part of the team made them do it then it's not an excuse.
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Still NZ Football has done well, not only with this win against Serbia. Auckland Citys efforts in the World Club Cahmps, The Nix (aka New Zeland National team) in the AL. And NZ making the Confederations cup and WC.
I Like the Rebel ad which says - "The new black is white".
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:Guest wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote:skinet wrote:Hey Sydneycroatia What are ya gunna say about this result ya tosser? You have jawed off for weeks about how good the Serbs are and look at this pathetic result against ostensibly a New Zealand B Team. LOL at you dude big time, Big time. Great result for the Kiwis to stick it up ostensibly another completely overated team from Europe. All the best to New Zealand in the WC may this be the first of many scalps. Serbia dark horses for the WC no!! just white fairies!! Ok. Pre-World Cup friendly, not really that much to get to happy about. Spain got lucky beating Saudi Arabia who couldn't beat Bahrain who New Zealand beat so does that mean Spain are going to struggle at the WC. No. It doesn't mean shit. Portugal couldn't beat Cape Verde does that mean they are going to flop at the WC. No. People need to stop getting ahead of themselves and not worry about other teams pre-world cup friendlies and just worry about our own. We need to accept that all 3 teams in our group are going to cause us big problems and all 3 are quality teams not just put them down after 2 result. TBH I don't think Portugal will make it out of their group Well that's on account of them having an extremely tough group that can go either way. My point is not to just judge someone's World Cup performance based on friendly performances. If we are to do that then Australia will struggle as well. They haven't performed well for over a year now imo.
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great for nzl and great for australia. it shows that we SHOULD be able to beat them, or at least get a draw. we only need 4 points to go through after all, if our goal difference is good enough.
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:cool: Good result for the Kiwi's, may boost their ranking by a billion places. Thats all we can take from this result :) Edited by liverpool: 30/5/2010 01:40:09 PM
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WELL DONE NEW ZEALAND. Everyone Knows the SERBS are HOT and COLD. Lets Hope IT IS THE LATTER when they play the SOCCEROOS.
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ok so im gonna try and be unbiased. its better to lose at this stage so that we dont get ahead of ourselves at the world cup. we did deserve to get something out of this match however in the second half. but even so i am worried about the lack in depth when 6 regulars are out. the behaviour of some of the fans was so disgraceful i had to cover my eyes. moving onto the kiwis, how can they compain about the treatment to bertos against oz and then have fallon breaking obradovic's nose and hacking multiple others? and the fact that they made only one substitution showed that to them this wasn't a friendly. i think new zealand have shown theyre a hardworking team who could do something at the world cup. but if their opponents try as hard as them then i dunno......
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Well done NZ
Important learnings even if they did not play all their stars
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Well done NZ! Great to see you guys already playing another friendly, even better that you beat Serbia.
Win-win for us, and you guys. Let's just hope the Socceroos can pull out the same detarmination come the World Cup.
As far as them missing a couple of starters, it's not hard to shut down a couple of players in a game and make it much the same team.
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Well done NZ, I had to read the result twice on livescore.
Actually I think this result may be bad for the Socceroos, this game really brought the Serbs back down to earth, and may be much more cautious against us and not underrate us. I guess you could say we may have lost our surprise factor.
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AGREED DaWoo But Remember the SERBS are a very HOT and COLD side TEMPER WISE and will need things to go their way !
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Great news. An A-League player striking down a group rival. Brilliant!
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asurin wrote:As far as them missing a couple of starters, it's not hard to shut down a couple of players in a game and make it much the same team. As someone said, New Zealand made four changes from the side that played us, and started that donkey CHristie in midfield. It's not like they were at full strength either.
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Serbia may be missing some top players but look at this starting line up that played against NZ and compare them to NZ players. Well done boys...
Vladimir Stojkovic: Contracted to Sporting Lisbon but loaned out to Wigan Athletic in the English Premier League.
Nemanja Vidic: Manchester United, EPL.
Antonio Rukavina: 1860 Munich, Bundesliga, Germany.
Neven Subotić: Borussia Dortmund, Bundesliga.
Ivan Obradović: Real Zaragoza, La Liga, Spain.
Zdravko Kuzmanović: VfB Stuttgart, Bundesliga.
Nenad Milijaš: Wolverhamton Wanderers, EPL.
Miloš Ninković: Dynamo Kiev, the top club in the Ukraine.
Zoran Tošić: Manchester United, EPL.
Nikola Žigić: Birmingham City, EPL.
Marko Pantelić: Ajax Amsterdam, Eredivisie.
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agree with atemp. any game where christie is involved, even as a substitute, cannot constitute a full strength NZ side. He is, effectively, the equivalent of Smeltz with a blindfold on, or Nelsen with his legs amputated.
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Good win for New Zealand, was a pretty even game to be honest. Funny that a team of A-Leaguers and English lower league players managed to humble a side made up some players from Europe's best clubs. This is why international football can so often have that romantic element about it. It is great to see an A-League player scoring internationally, just like Hernandez did against France.
Christie is crap, Brockie needs to bury more of his chances.
Some of the Serbian fans were complete idiots.
If New Zealand can limit the damage against Italy and get some points off Paraguay and Slovakia, there's no reason they can't go through. Who would have thought it?
Edited by ClintSakura: 30/5/2010 03:44:56 PM
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Daniel1991 wrote:Great news. An A-League player striking down a group rival. Brilliant! Could you see Pim picking Smeltz if he was an Ausie?...and playing.
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Ducky, though I agree with the sentiment of your post. What really bugs me about the Euro lovers on this forum is their steadfast belief that having your best players in big European clubs means you are going to win the world cup. There are certain countries with huge depth and countless players in the big leagues to choose from. There the ones with enough depth to win the cup - Clearly Serbia ain't one of them. Sure they have some high quality at the top end but they is scant high level competition for squad selection... Couple the lack of need to prove yourself to make the squad with the tried and tested balkan hot headed choking tradition and you will see a rabble develop that can't galvanise into a team when it counts. Mark my words the Serbian media is devastated about this loss. They know how vulnerable they are. Their confidence is shattered right now. And if they need to find 3 points on 23rd of June to make the second round, watch the fear and inevitable choking retur. God damn it's gonna be great to watch!
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zokzek wrote: Could you see Pim picking Smeltz if he was an Ausie?...and playing. Nope, because Pim is a clueless fraudulent Cock.
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zokzek wrote:Daniel1991 wrote:Great news. An A-League player striking down a group rival. Brilliant! Could you see Pim picking Smeltz if he was an Ausie?...and playing. I could see him giving him a go... After all, he can score goals at international level... :-"
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zokzek wrote:Daniel1991 wrote:Great news. An A-League player striking down a group rival. Brilliant! Could you see Pim picking Smeltz if he was an Ausie?...and playing. +1 He is exactly what we have been missing for years.
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Quaker wrote:Mark my words the Serbian media is devastated about this loss. They know how vulnerable they are. Their confidence is shattered right now. And if they need to find 3 points on 23rd of June to make the second round, watch the fear and inevitable choking retur. God damn it's gonna be great to watch! Yeah I'm sure the Serbian media are worried about their first run out in a friendly after arriving in Austria for a training camp a day and a half before the NZ game minus some of their more creative players :lol: On another note Spain's media are crushed their team struggled in their first run out against Saudi Arabia :lol:
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I'm quite suprised to see some of the comments on this. While it's an awesome result for NZ you have to bear in mind that it is only a friendly in the lead up to the world cup. Teams use them to experiement, go in not wanting to get injured and generally use them as a glorified trining session.
If anything this result might fire the Serbs up and put them on notice for the Australia game, who knows. Those of you getting ahead of youselves as though this is beginning of the end need to calm the fuck down.
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i google translated this from a serbian news site
Saturday, May 29, 2010, 20:02 -> 20:15
Antic: I am not unhappy
Coach Radomir Antic said at the press conference that was not unhappy after losing to New Zealand 0-1 in a friendly match at Klagenfrutu.
"I'm not unhappy. In any case, our program is set forth and work on the 13th of June we are in the best form of the game with Ganom. These games are part of the preparations. I said before the game that the game is in the foreground. It is important to reach our best form when necessary. This will be quite useful for all. " This is the first game after 14 February 2009. where repreznetacija Serbia did not reach a goal. Then the Serbian lost to Ukraine in a tournament in Cyprus. Serbia has not played a match without goals, once Radomir Antic on the bench. "Ivan Obradovic has sewn mouth and feeling faint. Dejan Stankovic has undergone medical examinations and is ready, he will probably play the next game." Serbian play next match against Poland, also in Austria, in Kufstein on Wednesday from 20.30.
yeah, devastated. new zealand were treating this match like the world cup final.
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bobbyR
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hahahahahah
I thought we were treating the AUS match like the WC final. Make up your minds......
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So good. Kiwis will definitely be my second team at the WC so it's great to see this result.
I don't see this result as having a huge bearing on Serbia v Australia but it does have a bearing on the fans mentalities. Sometimes people have a habit of lining up to the two starting XI's, saying that one is better than the other, and that's the team that's going to win. The reality is a team can hit the cross bar 30 times and the other team can get a lucky deflection in.
People saying that we won't beat Germany, Serbia and Ghana have not watched much football. We will not start as favourites but we can win all three games. It might take a bit of luck, and it might not. There's certainly no point in entering a tournament thinking we're not going to do well though.
The only element against is that luck is often created by chances and we're certainly not giving ourselves a lot of changes with this formation. Our defense is going to have to be very good!
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Bari91
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Liverpool wrote:Quaker wrote:Mark my words the Serbian media is devastated about this loss. They know how vulnerable they are. Their confidence is shattered right now. And if they need to find 3 points on 23rd of June to make the second round, watch the fear and inevitable choking retur. God damn it's gonna be great to watch! Yeah I'm sure the Serbian media are worried about their first run out in a friendly after arriving in Austria for a training camp a day and a half before the NZ game minus some of their more creative players :lol: On another note Spain's media are crushed their team struggled in their first run out against Saudi Arabia :lol: +1
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The arrogance of the Serbian coach to think that only his team and not New Zealand was experimenting with lineups I beg to differ and whilst we are on it the comments from that dickhead Serbian player who claimed after the game that Serbia would now destroy all opposition in the WC - Loser!! There arrogance just never stops. In fact many of the Eurpean teams struggled against lesser opposition and were far more gracious about it than this mob. And a word about there fans-One word MAD!!
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loving the away kit for nz. hopefully this bodes well for aus, but we were lucky not to get rolled by nz also. so i have no clue what it means. probably nothing come the wc.
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In as much as I am stoked by the All Whites' win over Serbia, I also think that there were different objectives for both teams. For Serbia it was, I think, a warm-up game; but somebody forgot to tell their fans. For NZ, it was a World Cup game. Still, well done and good luck in SA guys.
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bobbyR and his NZ insecurities again...............
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they really need to let new zealand to do the hackker (moari a bit rusty) before the game
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qin02 I have already posted this and agree totally can you imagine the HAKA aimed at the Slovakians and the Italians they would shit themselves especially if the All-Whites got right in there face like the all blacks do? Would put them off there game for sure and could start a riot.
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there's barely any maoris in the squad so it'd be kinda funny. like watching the all blacks and you can see all the unco white players way out the side and at the back etc.
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thewestisland tht's not the point ya dick!! For F..k Sakes!!
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f1dave wrote:zokzek wrote:Daniel1991 wrote:Great news. An A-League player striking down a group rival. Brilliant! Could you see Pim picking Smeltz if he was an Ausie?...and playing. I could see him giving him a go... After all, he can score goals at international level... :-" allthough i admire smeltz i dont think there is much difference between him and joel grif' and temperment aswell. so if joel doesn't get a run i doulbt pim would give smeltz a run either
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Man the weed you are smoking must be good can ya get me some?
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miko
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VforVictory wrote:The arrogance of the Serbian coach to think that only his team and not New Zealand was experimenting with lineups I beg to differ and whilst we are on it the comments from that dickhead Serbian player who claimed after the game that Serbia would now destroy all opposition in the WC - Loser!! There arrogance just never stops. In fact many of the Eurpean teams struggled against lesser opposition and were far more gracious about it than this mob. And a word about there fans-One word MAD!! You seem to have some hate for the Serbian squad. Hmm.. The player you are talking about is Zigic. He said that the squad will be going to the World Cup with the aim to "destroy" (win against) all other opposing teams. As i see it - if a team doesn't got out with mentality of beating all other teams, then they wont have much of a chance and shouldn't really be there. Just as the Chilean coach said he wouldn't be happy witha 3rd place finish because they are there to win it! The only loser here seems to be you..
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miko
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Plus some of the Serbia supporters at that game should be ashamed of themselves. Throwing bottles and invading pitches is so childish. I could understand if it was a teenage hooligan, but a 40yr+ old (overweight) man, he needs to seriously have a look at himself and decide whether invading the pitch and taking off his shirt was the best right thing to do.
The Serbian FA needs to get onto this ASAP and tell the supporters to stop acting like such animals or f*ck off.
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skinet
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Hey Miko I never once used the word hate you complete dick so don't put words into my mouth. I hate no-one pal. Destroy and win are both verbs with differing internations. One, what I don't like is the arrogance of the serbian coach and certain players in his quad, Two I find the Eurosnobbery of your ilk and others on this site at times apalling, three the constant criticism of the Australian team on this site is distressing and borish and four the view that Serbia might destroy the Socceroos absolutely laughable. Five, I am sure you would agree Miko a second string New Zealand team have seriously embarressed your team on the world stage.
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I must say, I am a little disappointed with the loss to New Zealand. IMO I think they were the better team and deserved to win it. I hope they continue to do well and have a good WC campaign. I will be cheering them on.
Right now I don't think it's wise to over-react to this loss, it's 2 weeks till the WC begins, we have a couple more games to get some form happening. I have faith in the coach and the team that they are on the right path in regards to having the squad prepared for the tournament. One thing I am happy about is that the players seem to still be tight nit unit, no one has come out and dissed the team (which is something that would have been possible previously).
Without getting into a debate with you all on the result itself, results of the friendly matches don't matter, all we all care about are he results at the tournament, and only then we'll find which teams took the correct preparation.
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qin02 wrote:they really need to let new zealand to do the hackker (moari a bit rusty) before the game Its the Haka. And skinny white boys doing the Haka, no thanks. I find the Haka in 2010 a bit silly anyway.
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VforVictory wrote:thewestisland tht's not the point ya dick!! For F..k Sakes!! Pull ya head in. Do some research on the Haka and try and understand what it is. Its not for your entertainment. Though the way the AB's go at it these days you would think its Hollywood.
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miko
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skinet wrote:Hey Miko I never once used the word hate you complete dick so don't put words into my mouth. I hate no-one pal. Destroy and win are both verbs with differing internations. One, what I don't like is the arrogance of the serbian coach and certain players in his quad, Two I find the Eurosnobbery of your ilk and others on this site at times apalling, three the constant criticism of the Australian team on this site is distressing and borish and four the view that Serbia might destroy the Socceroos absolutely laughable. Five, I am sure you would agree Miko a second string New Zealand team have seriously embarressed your team on the world stage. So you have two accounts on the one forum? Why? I never said you hate them. I said you "seem" to hate them as per your previous comment. Zigic said in a press conference that they are going to the world cup with the aim to beat everyone and because of that he is a dickhead? I've never heard Antic say Australia are easy beat? Have you? I don't think you realise what these preperation games are for. New Zealand is the most similar country to Australia. Antic says that he knows the Australian team (like Germany) are some of the most physically and mentally strongest in the world. This is why he played a friendly with New Zealand - to see how aggressive they are and to test out some new tactics, and obviously he would have told the players to take it easy and not to get injured. And yeh. Serbia is really embarassed now.
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miko
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What was seen from this friendly is that Serbia is very weak in the RB position. Rukavina is not cut out to play at internation level and if Ivanovic was to get injured - Serbia would be stuffed at RB. Obradovic was injured and it is not known yet what is happening with him but most likely Kolarov will take his place since he had a solid game. Jovanovic and Krasic would be a huge blow if either of them were to get injured as there also doesn't seem to be a lot of depth in the wingers department.
I also don't think that Serbia will play well against very physical sides such as Australia, so this is where Australia will have an advatage as the Serbian players seem to be very concerned about getting injured. Also im not sure on how Serbia would react with being a goal down in the World Cup.
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I see there is no post from notorganic in this thread, not surprising since this result is inconvenient to his view of the World.
I think some of the comments that the All Whites are treating these friendlies as World cup games are a bit misguided. After 28 years of trying to qualify do you not think Herbert and the players are desperate to also do well in South Africa?
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SC03 wrote:I see there is no post from notorganic in this thread, not surprising since this result is inconvenient to his view of the World.
I think some of the comments that the All Whites are treating these friendlies as World cup games are a bit misguided. After 28 years of trying to qualify do you not think Herbert and the players are desperate to also do well in South Africa? They seem to be just like Australia 4 years ago. We took the holland warm up pretty seriously.
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I'd love to Shane Smletz's face if someone tells him he's gotta do the Haka! :lol:
There could be a negative impact from this result if rivals wake up to the idea that NZ will not be a pushover. Hope they get a few goals, especially Smeltzy. Not expecting him back at Skilled Park, but great if he is.
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miko wrote:skinet wrote:Hey Miko I never once used the word hate you complete dick so don't put words into my mouth. I hate no-one pal. Destroy and win are both verbs with differing internations. One, what I don't like is the arrogance of the serbian coach and certain players in his quad, Two I find the Eurosnobbery of your ilk and others on this site at times apalling, three the constant criticism of the Australian team on this site is distressing and borish and four the view that Serbia might destroy the Socceroos absolutely laughable. Five, I am sure you would agree Miko a second string New Zealand team have seriously embarressed your team on the world stage. So you have two accounts on the one forum? Why? . Ahahahaaaaa.....I noticed that. Why? Skinet is the name he tries to use big words under but fails. Ostensibly(see earlier post).
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AndyRoo wrote:SC03 wrote:I see there is no post from notorganic in this thread, not surprising since this result is inconvenient to his view of the World.
I think some of the comments that the All Whites are treating these friendlies as World cup games are a bit misguided. After 28 years of trying to qualify do you not think Herbert and the players are desperate to also do well in South Africa? They seem to be just like Australia 4 years ago. We took the holland warm up pretty seriously. Australia didn't do too bad in the last World Cup. So maybe they're heading in the right direction.
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SCO3 To summarise the comments on this forum: Australia and Serbia were attempting to lose to New Zealand because the games were not serious and this was the way to prepare for the World Cup.
yep NZ is the one taking the game too seriously and making all kinds of cheap shots on key players like Brown, Nelsen, Elliot and Bertos. Wait, no that has been our Serbian and Australian opponents rattled by the sustained pressure we've put them under.
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miko wrote:AndyRoo wrote:SC03 wrote:I see there is no post from notorganic in this thread, not surprising since this result is inconvenient to his view of the World.
I think some of the comments that the All Whites are treating these friendlies as World cup games are a bit misguided. After 28 years of trying to qualify do you not think Herbert and the players are desperate to also do well in South Africa? They seem to be just like Australia 4 years ago. We took the holland warm up pretty seriously. Australia didn't do too bad in the last World Cup. So maybe they're heading in the right direction. I don't know how they will do. i watched their play off match against Bahrain so am pretty excited for them. I will admit when I looked at the schedule for the world cup I was not going to watch NZ's games as I didn't expect them to be contests and I need some sleep now and then*. I still don't expect them to get through but I will be watching their games now as they will be competitive. * I always try and pick dud matches that i won't watch...then end up watching them anyway because it's the World Cup.
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NZ isn't the one taking the game too seriously and making all kinds of cheap shots on key players like Brown, Nelsen, Elliot and Bertos.
It has been our opponents rattled by the sustained pressure we've put them under who have been frustrated and lashed out.
NZ don't know who their top team is yet- but either of the line ups against Serbia or Australia could have been it. All those players, with the suprise inclusion of Christie, are our top players. We're still experimenting too.
It shows we can score goals, create chances and defend beyond what we were expected to be able to do. Most pleasing has been the passing game, which hasn't been the hoof and hope we feared, but has shown we can maintain possession and use it.
We will have to wait and see if we can step up in crucial games at the World Cup. This is our biggest scalp, and only our second win over a European team.
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opps sorry crap NZ internet...dble post kind of
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skinet
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Davide82 Gee whiz Big words wow how profound I am sorry your education ended at grade 6 and you do not have the intellectual ability to acknowledge the insights I make about pro Euro knuckleheads on this website consistently bagging the Socceroos under the guise of having better knowledge about the game because they are Euro. Miko is obviously highly intelligent a case in point being his justification of hoolaganism if it is young supporters and acknowledges how arrogant the Serbs are despite being beaten easily by a second string NZ team who should have had two goals. LOL.
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skinet wrote:Davide82 Gee whiz Big words wow how profound I am sorry your education ended at grade 6 and you do not have the intellectual ability to acknowledge the insights I make about pro Euro knuckleheads on this website consistently bagging the Socceroos under the guise of having better knowledge about the game because they are Euro. Miko is obviously highly intelligent a case in point being his justification of hoolaganism if it is young supporters and acknowledges how arrogant the Serbs are despite being beaten easily by a second string NZ team who should have had two goals. LOL. You always manage to make me smile Skinet. I for one am not intimidated slightly by big words, rather was simply pointing out that you seem to go to great pains to use words that make you sound superior to other posters yet invariably use them wrongly or as is the case with one of your posts above use a word twice in the one sentence. it would certainly appear, however, that you have two identities as you have said nothing to refute the allegation. PS I am the least Europhile type on here. PPS year 6? Ahahahaaaaaaa no worries matey
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Great being in the crowd on Saturday. Thought the red flares were quite a spectacle. Strange seeing firemen waiting in the corner, with riot police in helmets stacked up behnd them. There was a moment were I thought the game would be called off. The ref looked pretty cheesed off. Smeltz almost got hit by a full bottle, just after he turned back. I stopped counting when the tenth flare hit the pitch.
Still vast majority of Serbs told me they were embarrassed. Laughed at first, then realised they could lose the game by default. Lots of Kiwi/Serb group photos after the match. Pity it was marred by a 'tanked up' section of the crowd.
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ATemp wrote:zokzek wrote: Could you see Pim picking Smeltz if he was an Ausie?...and playing. Nope, because Pim is a clueless fraudulent Cock. You are obviously not Australian-based ATemp (which doesn't surprise me), Verbeek was on Fox Sports last year and said that "Pity that Smeltz can't play for Australia", which to me intimates that he would pick Shane if he was eligible. You must be watching the games on Sky Sports.
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ATemp wrote:asurin wrote:As far as them missing a couple of starters, it's not hard to shut down a couple of players in a game and make it much the same team. As someone said, New Zealand made four changes from the side that played us, and started that donkey Christie in midfield.It's not like they were at full strength either. Again, another sign that you are not Australian-based as you make out to be, Christie hasn't performed in the A-League since about season 2 or so, so must Australian viewers would not know how he is playing since he left the A-League. The dossier has been built on you, keep treating people like crap and we'll sort you out. No doubts, no exceptions. You're attitude to some across a few places has been second rate. Keep having a go at people... Edited by diego's son: 31/5/2010 05:09:42 PM
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The booklet for the game stated David Mulligan sign for New Castle Jets?.
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Just got back from a short weekend holiday so this is the first time I heard this news, but just wanted to say congratulations to New Zealand. :)
Secondly, maybe I underestimated how good New Zealand actually are. Sure, it was a friendly and a practice match, but you gotta give credit where it's due. New Zealanders should be extremely proud of this performance and surely more performances like this will give justification to calls for an annual Australia v New Zealand match.
I don't know what this says about Serbia. Pretenders? Overrated? Time will tell. But it's certainly embarrassing for them. Not to mention a severe moral destroyer. I've heard so much about this team from Serbian supporters and negative socceroo supporters such as SydneyCroatia, but it looks like their 'world class' team with the decorated Vidic have fallen flat on their faces.
I still maintain Serbia is Australia's biggest danger game though, despite this performance.
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ATemp is such a "put-on", Hed be the type of girl to fake a Orgasm.
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nomates wrote:ATemp is such a "put-on", He'd be the type of girl to fake a Orgasm. hmmm, and :lol: but point taken. ATemp is not that user's real/preferred name anyway. They go by another name, and are actively involved in the co-ordination of a club A-League forum if the 'dossier' is to be believed.
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@ socceroossupporter to write "it looks like their 'world class' team with the decorated Vidic have fallen flat on their faces" is a big call considering it was only a friendly. I think we will be okay, time will tell.
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Hey Piksi_10 After that pathetic performance against NZ you will need all the help and time you can get dude. Serbia=extremely arroagant and over rated team dude!!
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@ skinet
Did you watch the game? I did. We clearly were not putting in 100%. It was a run-out for the squad, nothing more.
Can you provide some facts around your arrogant comment? What have we done to get that tag? None of the players or the coach has said any arrogant at this point in time.
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Diego's Son wrote:nomates wrote:ATemp is such a "put-on", He'd be the type of girl to fake a Orgasm. hmmm, and :lol: but point taken. ATemp is not that user's real/preferred name anyway. They go by another name, and are actively involved in the co-ordination of a club A-League forum if the 'dossier' is to be believed. So close, yet so far DS. You keep firing and you keep missing. My memories of Christie have more to do with Perth Glory than anything across the Tasman as he barely ever played for the Phoenix.
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Hey Piksi there is nothing more arogant than to treat an obviouys loss as merely a training run, At least one of your players has claimed they will destroy all opposition in the WC, An outrageous claim. Remember Coratia 2006 and Yugoslavia 1998 both dummy spitters and ultimately chokers.
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Skinet, to say a team used a friendly as a run-out is not an arrogant statement. None of the player or the coach said anything negative about NZ after the game. How can that be considered arrogant? The player in question who you claim said they will destroy all opposition was Zigic, he infact did not say that. He said the mentality of the team was when they go on the field for the WC, there aim is to destroy the competition. That is not arrogant, rather a postive mind set that I would assume all teams would like to project! All teams (barring both Brazil and Germany) have had flops in major tournaments, it is a fact of life. Do you remember Australia in 2002? 1998? 1994? 1990? No? well neither do I....
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Good win for the Kiwis. Hopefully Australia can do the same against Serbia next month.
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Wow, Fucking awesome. Bodes well for both my teams at the cup. Come on ANZ
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