I'd have to go with Beauchamp. The backline is short enough as it is. Plus Krasic will provide service to Zigic, I doubt Chippers/Carney are going to be able to negate his skill. Beechy is a bit stronger too, so he'd get my vote.


What do you think about the FourFourTwo article Pim's Selection Table Dilemma?
AUSTRALIAN defenders Michael Beauchamp and Mark Milligan have put their hands up to replace suspended veteran Craig Moore in the Socceroos must-win clash against Serbia.

Have your say.

I think the prob with Beachy is he may be lacking in match time but then Milligan has been playing in 2nd tier j-league (with short Japanese/Brazilian strikers

I'd go with Beauchamp however Milligan is no mug and his throw ins can be a handy offensive threat...I don't think either would let us down really.

I'd go with Beauchamp however Milligan will not let us down.

What the first four said!!

Jedinak or Beauchamp. Wouldnt be unhappy with either.

Beauchamp for mine.

Where's Jade North when you need him?

FFS Milligan is to f...king short!!

How is there a questiom about this? Beauchamp is a much better defender and is suited to play against serbia coz of his height. Milligan is a spastic and the most overated defender we have.

We've never kept a clean sheet with Beauchamp on the pitch, which isn't a great start.

Since when is 180cm "too short"?

AfromanGt
You are a serious imbecile mate fair dinkum!! Milligan cannot out jump or out muscle someone that is over 200 cm tall especially on crosses. Who are f...ing hell are you kidding?

And even when we've got close he scores an own goal:lol:

Jedinak put his hand up to start at CB just to play against the Serbs that's the only reason. If it was any other nation he wouldn't bother but because it's Serbia he wants to play:lol:

Yeah, that may be but at least I've got the cajones to fucking swear, sweetheart.

We don't have ANYONE who can take on someone of Zigic's size. There's not a lot we can do about it other than cut off the supply to him, so who's supporting Neill is less relevant than the fullbacks and the effectiveness of the holding midfielders.

Yeah, that totally makes you cooler, and has any relevance to your point :roll:



Edited by imnofreak: 22/6/2010 10:27:11 PM

I swore once...I can still taste the bloody soap!

afromanGT = Serious ignoramus with No Balls!!
I'LL tell you what we'll do knucklehead we will head to the African jungle and recruit pygmies because size does not matter and we will surround him. Eeeech!!

April 2009, Telstra Stadium. Australia 2 Uzbekistan 0. Beauchamp plays whole game in central defence. Just another example of you sprouting off without knowing the facts...

This is just one game that springs immediately to mind, there's probably more...

16 July 2007, Asian Cup...Australia 4 Thailand 0. Beauchamp scores the first goal for Australia...etc.

I'll tell ya what Afroman you tell me how we can totally restrict supply to the big 202 cm dawky Serbians head for the whole game? Yes to some extent we can restrict it and we will but we can never totally stop the supply hence the need for a tall central defender not a midget like our 180cm freind. Beauchamp is the only option I don't think jedinak is big or strong enough and as for 180 cm Milligan giving way 22cm well as I said afroman you are an ignoramus!!

And yet, youre the one whos trying to act tough on an internet forum...

Beucase your being a whiney bitch about it has any relevance either :-S

No matter who's on the pitch Zigic is going to have at least 10cm on them. Unless you want to put Schwarzer or Kennedy on him #-o You've got to cut off the supply to him down the wings, close down with our fullbacks and make sure that Valeri ensures Stankovic's passes don't find a way through. You've got to force Serbia into playing a narrow game and stop them from getting aerial balls onto Zigic's head, where they would hurt us the most.

I was sure he got subbed off in that game. The fact that you can only find two games from 21 caps to use as examples isn't great. He's been the chink in the armour on many occasions in the past.

You're the forum warrior who's insulting me. Insults out of the blue because I dare to challenge your opinion. How dare I have an opionion that differs to yours? I must have no balls and be igonrant because you with all your handful of posts are clearly the king of this place. I salute you mr VforVictory, your solution to this, to hurl insults out of the blue obviously means that you win the argument. What a man you are. Thank fuck you've got your usename as VforVictory, so you know that 'Victory' starts with V...well done. Preparatory class congratulates you. Here's a couple more for you, FforFuckOff, JforJogOn and YforYou'reADouche.

Beach no argument!

^No he didn't get subbed off...i know because i was there.

You're counter argument is a load of shit mate, you were the one making a sweeping statement regardless of the facts (which you seem to be oblivious to)...



Edited by guitarjohn: 22/6/2010 11:24:49 PM

From FIFA.com

Squad List
Nr.   Name       Position Height
1   Mark SCHWARZER      GK   196
2   Lucas NEILL      DF   185
3   Craig MOORE      DF   186
6   Michael BEAUCHAMP   DF   191
8   Luke WILKSHIRE      DF   177
11   Scott CHIPPERFIELD   DF   180
20   Mark MILLIGAN      DF   178
21   David CARNEY      DF   181

@Afroman the style of play you've suggested will be the way to go against Serbia but Beauchamp is the best direct replacement for Moore. Milligan gives away 13cm to Beauchamp and 24cm to Zigic, plus I still have unkind rememberances of Milligan's disaster at centre-back for Sydney against Perth a few years ago.#-o Beauchamp has already partnered Neill in the lead up to the World Cup so there should be a shorter integration time for him. I just feel there are too may positives to having Beauchamp play over Milligan.

Yes, John I made a sweeping statement which clearly wasn't correct. But he has made mistakes and let the team down, he was arguably at fault for the goal against Japan in the asian cup (since this is what you choose to site as evidence of his apparent quality).

I think Beauchamp may be a little stonger than the other two so ill take him.

Though agree with afro. Must try and limit his supply as much as possible because he is going to be taller than everyone. put cahill on him. He can out jump him :P

Why not North? Did I miss him missing the squad?

No, you missed him being sent home. Yay for paying attention.

WE ARE ON THE SAME TEAM GUYS!!!!

Jade North. WTF?