Why is the media so against football?


Why is the media so against football?

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a lot of people in the media have no idea about the game i noticed the same with tennis so they just don't say anything or bag it 
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It is common among the people from the USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand to bag Football. 

The rest of the world doesn't, to my knowledge. 



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Has anyone noticed this year Footballs coverage on News & Fairfax papers and web sites is down and as for 7, 9 & 10 their coverage is no where near what it has been recently.

Two things I noticed last week… twas waiting for a coffee and picked up the TerrORgraph [Ok newspapers readship down I understand] so went looking for the A-League it was roughly a third of one page 12 to 14 pages from the back… in nightly news shows the A-League coverage seems a lot latter in the sports reports and a fair bit less.

Given that 9, own Fairfax and since the take over Fairfax has gone from calling it Football back to having a soccer tag…



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You're the TROLL

You are the one that has tried to damage football in this country

You are the one that opposes everything that football strives for in this country

GO
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girtXc wrote:
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I hope the FFA go after The Age for what they did. Even bigger case for it now.


To date, I can't see that anyone has disproven anything that The Age published.

I've heard Buckley pronounce that it's "unhelpful" (well, greater scrutiny is never desired by anyone spending public money!), but I haven't seen anyone stand up and say: this specific matter reported by The Age is false.

I've heard plenty say: well, you need to do this sort of thing, don't be naive, etc

But that's not a really solid basis for a defamation suit.


P1SS OFF

I will get you banned before the week is out

Edited by girtXc: 28/7/2010 10:25:34 AM


You are the one uttering profanities, yet you are inclined to get me banned?

That is an odd set of morals you have there.
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Mister Football wrote:
Diego's Son wrote:
I hope the FFA go after The Age for what they did. Even bigger case for it now.


To date, I can't see that anyone has disproven anything that The Age published.

I've heard Buckley pronounce that it's "unhelpful" (well, greater scrutiny is never desired by anyone spending public money!), but I haven't seen anyone stand up and say: this specific matter reported by The Age is false.

I've heard plenty say: well, you need to do this sort of thing, don't be naive, etc

But that's not a really solid basis for a defamation suit.


P1SS OFF

I will get you banned before the week is out

Edited by girtXc: 28/7/2010 10:25:34 AM
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Diego's Son wrote:
I hope the FFA go after The Age for what they did. Even bigger case for it now.


To date, I can't see that anyone has disproven anything that The Age published.

I've heard Buckley pronounce that it's "unhelpful" (well, greater scrutiny is never desired by anyone spending public money!), but I haven't seen anyone stand up and say: this specific matter reported by The Age is false.

I've heard plenty say: well, you need to do this sort of thing, don't be naive, etc

But that's not a really solid basis for a defamation suit.
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I hope the FFA go after The Age for what they did. Even bigger case for it now.
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The FFA, chaired by Australia's richest man Frank Lowy, have subsequently commenced defamation proceedings against The Age.


I am glad with this course of action

At least it will cause them to be more cautious the next time the Bogans proceed to misinform

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skeptic wrote:
http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-sport/australias-2022-world-cup-bid-cleared-20100723-10n96.html

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/australias-2022-world-cup-bid-cleared-20100723-10nna.html

http://www.watoday.com.au/breaking-news-sport/australias-2022-world-cup-bid-cleared-20100723-10n96.html

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Australia's 2022 World Cup bid cleared
July 23, 2010 - 10:39AM

Australia's bid for the 2022 World Cup has been cleared of any impropriety by soccer's global governing body, FIFA.

An investigation into the conduct of Football Federation Australia's (FFA) bid for the tournament has been conducted by FIFA since allegations of improper conduct were aired by Fairfax newspapers.

However FIFA have given the bid a clean bill of health, writing to the FFA to inform them.

"We stated all along that those damaging allegations were false," said FFA chief executive Ben Buckley.

"Subsequently we have been cleared by the federal government, independent auditors and now by FIFA.

"With this behind us we can now concentrate on our bid to bring the biggest sporting event in the world to Australia in 2022.

"If we are successful it will be a thrilling result for football fans and provide a lasting legacy for all major sports and a huge benefit to the national economy."

The FFA, chaired by Australia's richest man Frank Lowy, have subsequently commenced defamation proceedings against The Age.


Problem is the damage has already been done.Throw enough mud and some will stick.

I don't see anyone talking about the millions Qatar are spending to host Brazil v Argentina in November,or infact their unbelievable tactics with CAF or even why Bin Hammann is announcing the host of the Asian Cup 2015 in January next year.
I don't see them talking about Qatars unbelievable CO2 emissions which are the worst in the world per capita by a huge margin,over double the next nation,or how Bin Hammann lends his helicopter to Sepp.
All other bids have deficiencies yet I'm not seeing any investigative journalism into them

Vested interests:oops: :oops:
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Gyfox wrote:
spathi wrote:
Its actually defamation taken from the word defamed. not deformation taken from the word deformed. ](*,) \:d/ ](*,) \:d/ ](*,) :cool: :cool: :cool:

Edited by spathi: 23/7/2010 02:15:37 PM


It is good to get words spelt and used correctly. A correct use for deformation is given in the sentence below.

Deformation that Pim used against Germany played straight into their hands. He should have stuck with his normal 4-2-3-1.

:lol:

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spathi wrote:
Its actually defamation taken from the word defamed. not deformation taken from the word deformed. ](*,) \:d/ ](*,) \:d/ ](*,) :cool: :cool: :cool:

Edited by spathi: 23/7/2010 02:15:37 PM


It is good to get words spelt and used correctly. A correct use for deformation is given in the sentence below.

Deformation that Pim used against Germany played straight into their hands. He should have stuck with his normal 4-2-3-1.
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Its actually defamation taken from the word defamed. not deformation taken from the word deformed. ](*,) \:d/ ](*,) \:d/ ](*,) :cool: :cool: :cool:

Edited by spathi: 23/7/2010 02:15:37 PM
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http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-sport/australias-2022-world-cup-bid-cleared-20100723-10n96.html

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/australias-2022-world-cup-bid-cleared-20100723-10nna.html

http://www.watoday.com.au/breaking-news-sport/australias-2022-world-cup-bid-cleared-20100723-10n96.html

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Australia's 2022 World Cup bid cleared
July 23, 2010 - 10:39AM

Australia's bid for the 2022 World Cup has been cleared of any impropriety by soccer's global governing body, FIFA.

An investigation into the conduct of Football Federation Australia's (FFA) bid for the tournament has been conducted by FIFA since allegations of improper conduct were aired by Fairfax newspapers.

However FIFA have given the bid a clean bill of health, writing to the FFA to inform them.

"We stated all along that those damaging allegations were false," said FFA chief executive Ben Buckley.

"Subsequently we have been cleared by the federal government, independent auditors and now by FIFA.

"With this behind us we can now concentrate on our bid to bring the biggest sporting event in the world to Australia in 2022.

"If we are successful it will be a thrilling result for football fans and provide a lasting legacy for all major sports and a huge benefit to the national economy."

The FFA, chaired by Australia's richest man Frank Lowy, have subsequently commenced defamation proceedings against The Age.

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FIFA has cleared its WC bid investigation and there is very little about it on the news unlike the big newspaper story about the allegations. Good luck Lowy with the deformation case hope you send them broke. Another proof of anti-football agendas by mainstream media.
Football is undisputed by far biggest sport in the world. FIFA has more countries participating in the WC competition than the UN members. Something so big and the media has so little positive to say about it in Australia.
Shame some people on this forum can not see this and please take your who is who dicusion on another tread
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conm wrote:
girtXc wrote:
Kapow/Misterfootball/barklystreebullshit/skeptic/socceroossupporter
just bugger off back to big foody,or alternately go back to your blog where you have a massive loyal following of 1 person


if that is a photograph of Misterfootball/barklystreetend then he looks surprisingly normal :-k


Nup-thats a photo of the only person that has made Barklys blog a favourite-thats his entire fan club despite the incredible amount of crap hes spewed out
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That is not Mr Football, he was a blogger for MV on this site for goodness sake people. Kapow! & socceroossupporter are not Mr Football.

Deleted photo at request of a friend.

Edited by General Ashnak: 22/7/2010 03:39:19 PM

Edited by General Ashnak: 23/7/2010 11:51:21 AM

Edited by General Ashnak: 23/7/2010 04:25:57 PM

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conm wrote:
girtXc wrote:
Kapow/Misterfootball/barklystreebullshit/skeptic/socceroossupporter
just bugger off back to big foody,or alternately go back to your blog where you have a massive loyal following of 1 person


if that is a photograph of Misterfootball/barklystreetend then he looks surprisingly normal :-k


Can you not see the evil in his eyes? :evil:
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girtXc wrote:
Kapow/Misterfootball/barklystreebullshit/skeptic/socceroossupporter
just bugger off back to big foody,or alternately go back to your blog where you have a massive loyal following of 1 person


if that is a photograph of Misterfootball/barklystreetend then he looks surprisingly normal :-k
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girtXc wrote:
Kapow/Misterfootball/barklystreebullshit/skeptic/socceroossupporter
just bugger off back to big foody,or alternately go back to your blog where you have a massive loyal following of 1 person


If you still insist with the ridiculous notion i'm a multi of a poster i consistently and fervently disagree with in my posts, you are either a twerp with little skill of comprehension, or a one of the many teens whose balls are yet to drop. Or maybe it's a combination of those, together your oft displayed poor literacy skills and inability to debate that leads you to attempt to destroy the credibility of the arguer rather than the argument.

What do you do when someone disagrees with you when in your company? Grow some brain cells and debate like a man, tell them they're opinion doesn't matter because they're in disguise or lock yourself in your room and have a tantrum? I'd tend to think mummy gave little girt his own way far too often.


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just bugger off back to big foody,or alternately go back to your blog where you have a massive loyal following of 1 person

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I was simply pointing out the fact that you were incorrect in saying that the NRL is not a spectator sport and that their crowds are irrelevant.
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Gyfox wrote:
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There is no anti-football media the idea is in your head.

I do not agree with your comment!

In Australia there is very little positive in mainstream media written about football, most of the times not even all goals from a match are shown (Uruguay V Germany 2:3; Germany v Argentina 4:0 ...)high scoring games and chenal 7,9,10 very little reporting, than Australian qualifiers for exsample,very littel compared with cricket Pura Cup hardly anyone in the stands, even Rugby League games get less crowds than Sydney FC. I could not attand Sydney FC v Everton game and if it was not for FFTA forum I was not able to find out the score from TV News so colled sport reports. FFA and FNSW have to invest so much more in to advertisment of football in this coutry/ state to brake down media barriers otherwise The World Game will be forever a Europien, South American and now little bit African and Asian game on this continent.


Pura cup doesnt get any coverage what are you on about? Rugby league has huge interest it is a television sport not a spectator sport, their crowds arent relevant. If it rates it will get airtime just like the socceroos get good coverage while other areas of the game get comparatively poor coverage such as a-league and overseas teams because they don’t rate as high.



You might want to tell the 3.4 million that went to NRL games in 2009 that it is a TV sport and they should stay home.

Just to remind you again... your game, AFL, is only a minor sport in the two states that make up 55% of Australia's population.



Edited by gyfox: 22/7/2010 12:56:57 AM



The person who quoted my post was arguing that sydney FC got higher crowds than some rugby league teams so therefore should of recieved more news coverage, i was simply pointy out that crowds do not represents RL's support levels as it has a high TV viewing audience, therefore high news coverage. If you disagree with that then you are wrong. If you thought it was a shot at RL then you were also wrong.


Edited by kapow!: 22/7/2010 01:43:52 AM
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kapow! wrote:
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Kapow wrote:
There is no anti-football media the idea is in your head.

I do not agree with your comment!

In Australia there is very little positive in mainstream media written about football, most of the times not even all goals from a match are shown (Uruguay V Germany 2:3; Germany v Argentina 4:0 ...)high scoring games and chenal 7,9,10 very little reporting, than Australian qualifiers for exsample,very littel compared with cricket Pura Cup hardly anyone in the stands, even Rugby League games get less crowds than Sydney FC. I could not attand Sydney FC v Everton game and if it was not for FFTA forum I was not able to find out the score from TV News so colled sport reports. FFA and FNSW have to invest so much more in to advertisment of football in this coutry/ state to brake down media barriers otherwise The World Game will be forever a Europien, South American and now little bit African and Asian game on this continent.


Pura cup doesnt get any coverage what are you on about? Rugby league has huge interest it is a television sport not a spectator sport, their crowds arent relevant. If it rates it will get airtime just like the socceroos get good coverage while other areas of the game get comparatively poor coverage such as a-league and overseas teams because they don’t rate as high.



You might want to tell the 3.4 million that went to NRL games in 2009 that it is a TV sport and they should stay home.

Just to remind you again... your game, AFL, is only a minor sport in the two states that make up 55% of Australia's population.



Edited by gyfox: 22/7/2010 12:56:57 AM
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Decentric wrote:
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Couple of things you should be aware of are:
- I've commented in two topics about it this apparent bias, thats all.
- I am not some apparent longterm troll, i am barely interested in posting on this forum as it is.
- I have spent most of my life in Melbourne, so am perfectly aware of the media coverage, i am only sent all over the place now because of work.

As for your rambling post, you have linked high AFL coverage with the assumption that proves there is a campaign against soccer, which is an illogical conclusion. Instead you need to provide evidence or reasoning to support an anti-soccer campaign if you believe it exists, until you do that its an unreasonable assumption.

The most logical explanation of course is AFL has marketed itself as a broad based high interest sport for many years and as a result has generated high mainstream interest which results in high media coverage by organisations whose aim it is to either sell their newspapers or increase their ratings.


I've already provided evidence based criteria for positing that most media outlets in Australia give less column space to football than they should.

The column space argument derived in the local rag owned by Murdoch is empirically verifiable data, which is irrefutable. It was gathered over a month at a time of the year when AFL it was in abeyance.

A year or two ago, Richard Colebatch (economics editor) , writing in The Age, collated statistics of 5-14 year olds playing sport. He found that as many young Australians played soccer, as AFL, League, Union and touch football combined. At the same time he concluded there was little extrapolation to media coverage for the sport given its high popularity.

Moreover, in the Sweeney report, it found soccer was only just behind swimming, tennis, AFL and cricket as Australia's most popular sports according to suveys of adults in the six capiatl cities.

I think this presents a compelling case for what I've previously advanced.

Kapow, where are your alternative sources substantiating that there is no bias towards AFL?




I dont need sources to substantiate that there is no bias towards AFL because i'm not making a case for it, infact they probably are biased towards them, but its because they’re trying to milk every dollar out of their viewers or readers. That was the basis of my point, the logical explanation for high AFL coverage is due to high interest levels from the public, assuming there is a anti-soccer campaign doesn’t make sense.

One of the things you might be confusing an anit-soccer media campaign with is AFL or specialised sport writers coming out with pot shots at the game during world cups for instance, their motivation would be because their job is supported by a strong AFL industry and because they are somewhat foreign to the sport. Those sorts of snipes are not consistent with a media campaign against the sport.


As for your points:
-High sport participation levels does not mean there is high interest and therefore high media coverage, some sports are spectator sports others are participant sports or both. For instance netball has high participation but low spectator interest.

-High AFL content in columns doesn’t mean anything, people in victoria are interested in AFL and whats going on.

There is a lot of upside to our game considering we haven’t even been selling it in the right format for any more than 5 years, but we shouldnt be blaming others or expecting a free ride, we'll get coverage when we earn it.

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Hes so popular that he started his own blog and after a few years hes already had 1 person favourite his site.
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Mister Football wrote:
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Not that I care too much, just thought I would let you know that I am not Kapow!

Not having read the whole thread, I probably lean to his side that the media will run stories that ultimately appeal to their readership, or will attract more readers.

Any notion that the media is somehow biased towards the AFL, while at the same time acting against its own commercial interest, is an extremely silly notion.

If you want to make money, you go and cover the biggest comp in the land.

Yours truly

Mister Football

Edited by Mister Football: 21/7/2010 05:30:01 PM


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Mister Football wrote:
Decentric

Not that I care too much, just thought I would let you know that I am not Kapow!

Not having read the whole thread, I probably lean to his side that the media will run stories that ultimately appeal to their readership, or will attract more readers.

Any notion that the media is somehow biased towards the AFL, while at the same time acting against its own commercial interest, is an extremely silly notion.

If you want to make money, you go and cover the biggest comp in the land.

Yours truly

Mister Football

Edited by Mister Football: 21/7/2010 05:30:01 PM

It is pretty obvious that Kapow! isn't Pips - thought it was a strange conclusion to reach, Decentic is normally better than that.

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Decentric

Not that I care too much, just thought I would let you know that I am not Kapow!

Not having read the whole thread, I probably lean to his side that the media will run stories that ultimately appeal to their readership, or will attract more readers.

Any notion that the media is somehow biased towards the AFL, while at the same time acting against its own commercial interest, is an extremely silly notion.

If you want to make money, you go and cover the biggest comp in the land.

Yours truly

Mister Football

Edited by Mister Football: 21/7/2010 05:30:01 PM
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