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3 points is what matters.
Mignolet needs to command his area more but he is a brilliant shot stopper, amazing save at the end to tip it on to the bar. Manquillo showed Johnson what a full back should be like, was very impressed and hope he stays at RB with Moreno coming in at LB in a week or two. Lovren was beastly and won almost everything against a very difficult CF in Pelle. Skrtel was fine .
Gerrard and Lucas is a partnership with not enough mobility. There were no midfield options in front of the back four because they both sat really deep and neither of them are ball carriers. We saw when Allen came on how much we improved because Allen would pick it up, drive at the defence and midfield and open up space for the front three. Allen was crucial in us getting back on top and I was very impressed. He or Can should be starting from now on and I think Lucas might have been in the shop window a little bit there.
Coutinho was shadowed by Wanyama all game (who was fantastic) and tried too hard when on the ball. Needed to drop deeper and pick up the ball, he had his back to goal all the time and it's not his game.
Sterling showed blistering pace and is going to be a fantastic outlet. Worked tirelessly in defence, pressing closing down etc. Sturridge quiet but scored the winner, did his job.
Moreno in for GJ and Can/Allen for Lucas and that's a much better team. Markovic and Lallana to come in too which is a plus. Still think we need another top quality option in the front third in case Studge gets injured (we all know he will)
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Quote:They go again: Why Liverpool can win the league this season
Scott Murray, published author and highly-respected writer for the The Guardian and The Blizzard, has joined Eurosport-Yahoo and will be covering Liverpool's Premier League campaign and anything and everything else during the 2014-15 season. This is his debut column.
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On a blustery Saturday afternoon in April 1899, Liverpool Football Club travelled to Villa Park knowing victory would bring them their first-ever league title. It was not to be. The wind whipping through the stadium provided an easy, breezy metaphor: the Reds were blown away, 5-0 down before half time, hosts Aston Villa making off with the championship instead. As astonishing capitulations go, Crystanbul has nothing on this.
A sickening defeat, but one which in retrospect did Liverpool a favour. The players scuttled off, licked their wounds, and came back stronger. Two seasons later, a more experienced and battle-hardened unit claimed their prize. Liverpool Football Club were champions of England, a mere nine years after coming into existence. A steely never-give-in spirit had been forged, one which would serve them well down the ages as the Reds repeatedly responded to on-field setbacks in the most positive manner.
In 1972, a team powered by the relentless dynamism of the now absurdly under-rated Kevin Keegan - younger readers should ask mum and dad, or imagine a more marketable version of Luis Suarez - went on a run of 13 wins and a draw which took them to within touching distance of the title. They lost 1-0 at Derby County in their penultimate game, which meant they required a win at Arsenal on the final day to deny Brian Clough's Rams. Emlyn Hughes hit the bar, John Toshack missed a sitter, then had a goal ruled out for offside with two minutes to go. Another wounder. But again Liverpool bounced back, winning the league the following season, ending Bill Shankly's seven-year run without silverware.
Then there was the response to *that* Michael Thomas goal: a league title 12 months afterwards, no mean feat after being the fall guys at an epochal event, not least because the endearingly hapless Glenn Hysen was in the heart of the defence. And finally there's the most modern manifestation of Liverpool's inherent spirit, character and steadfast refusal to accept second place when the going gets tough: as three-goal comebacks go, Crystanbul has nothing on Istanbul.
Given Liverpool have historically made a habit of picking themselves up from grave disappointment, dusting themselves down, and giving it another shot, often rather successfully, it's somewhat surprising that the current side has been pretty much across the board written off before a ball has been kicked in the 2014/15 title race.
Liverpool were the second best team in the league last season. For the majority of the second half of the campaign, they recorded the best results, while playing the most effective, and certainly the prettiest, football. They beat the eventual champions Manchester City. They eviscerated Everton. Arsenal. Tottenham Hotspur. Manchester United.
They also lost their heads spectacularly during the run-in. But in the context of this new season, that addled meltdown must now be viewed as a positive. After Chelsea did a number on them at Anfield, Jose Mourinho schooling his old pupil Brendan Rodgers in the art of grinding out a result any which way, and the astonishing scenes at Selhurst, there is little left to hurt Liverpool's young squad now.
After the final matches of the season confirmed Liverpool had come up short, a grim-faced Steven Gerrard reflected that, at 34 years of age, he had only just experienced for the first time a title bid that went all the way. However, young players like Daniel Sturridge, Jordan Henderson and the ridiculously precocious Raheem Sterling, he pointed out, now had that experience to draw on, and plenty of time to put it to good use. This is the beginning, not the end.
Nevertheless, it's easy to pinpoint, and understand, the reason for the collective loss of confidence in Liverpool. The departure of Luis Suarez, who scored 31 goals in the league last season while setting up 19 others, leaves an enormous gap to fill. It's an impossible task - Suarez is a singular talent, arguably the best in the world last season - so Rodgers simply hasn't bothered. His priorities this summer have been elsewhere.
The midfield has been bolstered by the arrival of Emre Can, a member of Germany's latest wave of talent. Can will take on some of Jordan Henderson's heavy workload during a long season, the pair doing the running for Steven Gerrard, who may be a diminished power at 34, but still remains an influential figure at Liverpool, as a totem as much as anything else. Lazar Markovic adds searing pace and skill. Adam Lallana is a damn sight slower, but no less direct.
Liverpool's much-maligned defence has been totally overhauled. Dejan Lovren already looks to the manner born, striding around Anfield during the friendly win over Borussia Dortmund as though he owned the gaff, loudly organising from the back, comfortable on the ball and no-nonsense off it. Early signs suggest he's both the loudmouth the team have been missing since the retirement of Jamie Carragher, and the cool-headed marshal absent since Sami Hyypia left in 2009.
Javier Manquillo, a right-back of rich promise, looked assured on the overlap against Dortmund, an instant hit, and much is expected of the more experienced Alberto Moreno on the left. The Spanish pair are a significant upgrade on last season's full back positions, a slightly unfair reflection perhaps of the admirable Jon Flanagan's efforts and abilities, less so of the often unacceptably ponderous Glen Johnson.
Comparisons, inevitably, are made to Tottenham Hotspur, who also recently lost their marquee player to La Liga and splurged big on new talent. But comparisons are odious. For a start, if they're being made to illustrate the struggles Liverpool are likely to face this season, they don't do a very good job of it: Spurs finished last season only three points shy of the total they managed the previous year with Gareth Bale in their team. Some collapse. Secondly, and perhaps more pertinently, Spurs were dumping their plethora of new signings into a team without any discernible system or philosophy.
Rodgers might have his faults - he could do with reining in the pseudo philosophical patter, dishing out unsolicited advice to the likes of Louis van Gaal, needlessly making himself a hostage to fortune - but he's established a coherent framework at Anfield, where players are comfortable on the ball, able to keep possession, break quickly at will, and interchange without totally losing shape. Statistically, some of Liverpool's new signings are destined to fail, but at least they'll have a fighting chance of success, working as they are to a tightly defined brief.
There's also an increased depth to the squad necessary for their first Champions League campaign in five years. Those extra matches, contrary to received wisdom, should not hinder their league campaign; a decent run, in fact, may inspire them domestically.
Not that Rodgers would say no to another big-name striker. Daniel Sturridge has a tendency to pick up knocks and niggles, and while Rickie Lambert will surprise many with his adroit link-up play, the aging local hero is unlikely to contribute a John Aldridgesque quantity of goals to make up the Suarez deficit. The collapse of the Loic Remy deal may come back to haunt them.
But do they need to make up all those goals anyway? Liverpool scored 101 times last season. If Lambert can chip in a mere 10, if Lovren saves a similar number at the back, they'd be only 11 goals worse off overall, and still scoring more than everyone but Manchester City last time round. And this is all without factoring in a full season of brilliance from Sterling, who only really started to contribute last season at the turn of the year, and the ever-increasing influence of Philippe Coutinho, determined to prove Brazil wrong after leaving him out of their World Cup squad.
There's also the fact that Liverpool, for all Suarez's brilliance, were actually statistically better whenever their star man was missing during his three-year stay at Anfield. And in any case, star men don't always stuff all hope in their suitcases when they clear off. Spurs haven't crumbled post-Bale, and Manchester United didn't do too badly after Cristiano Ronaldo upped sticks: two titles in four years, and the other two missed by one point and a couple of goals. And that was without the sort of heavy reinvestment Liverpool have made this summer.
A bounce-back title win, a homage to the teams of 1901, 1973 and 1990, might be just out of Liverpool's reach this season. Then again, it's not the ludicrous pipe dream everyone seems to think it is. Last season needn't be a one-off. Liverpool slipped. They go again.
- Scott Murray Interesting read.
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If only you hadn't bought Origi or Can all your first team signings would be players whose surname starts with L or M :lol:
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afromanGT wrote:I'd say we're waiting to see whether we can persuade Borini to leave before we decide what our next move on a striker is.
Moreno for 12m is a quality deal. I'd say we're much, much stronger than we were last season even without Suarez. Which is good to be able to say. Yes I wondering about Borini - he's trying to stay but we'd prefer to shift him, hope this gets resolved pronto. As for looking stronger without Luis - yep BR has worked on having 2 capable players for near on every position and its looking much better BUT I will wait until a few games have past depending what our GF is ? :lol: yep everyone is replaceable but losing the current sharpest shooter in the game will have its frustrating times for us IF the new SS don't nail the target as often. Maybe a lot more low scoring wins ? I'll take that anyday obviously but damn was good seeing us demolish some teams last season :d
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I'd say we're waiting to see whether we can persuade Borini to leave before we decide what our next move on a striker is.
Moreno for 12m is a quality deal. I'd say we're much, much stronger than we were last season even without Suarez. Which is good to be able to say.
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Squad is pretty much sorted you would think.
Anther top striker to support Sturridge is probably the last piece of the puzzle, shame Remy didn't pass his medical - would have done the job nicely.
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Moreno for 12 is great. Looks like we didn't budge on the price, I think they expected a bidding war and it didn't happen.
Probably too early for him to start in GW1 but he'll be our first choice LB after the first weeks I reckon.
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I think Moreno has been confirmed now ? $12m.....and word Kelly is going to Palace for $1-2m ? I'm sorry to see Kelly go but that ligament op certainly set him back and these new recruits at the back have him further down the list. Below who's been added excl Moreno and on right who's been shifted, by all means correct me fellas if I'm wrong either way.. Emre Can £10,000,000 Armin Hodzic Free Rickie Lambert £4,000,000 Jakub Sokolík Free Adam Lallana £25,000,000 Luis Saurez £75,000,000 Lazar Marković £20,000,000 Conor Coady £500,000 Dejan Lovren £20,000,000 Pepe Reina £2,000,000 Divock Origi £10,000,000 Eto ? well if cheap and under the circumstance not being able to get a younger known name he sure would pouch more goals than I expect Lambert would - in saying that I hope Lambert does surprise us but Eto would be more of a sure thing and wouldn't it be great he putting a couple in at the Bridge :lol: pv4 - haven't seen anything on Toure to date - if so thats not a back breaker, pardon the pun. Edited by M.L.: 13/8/2014 09:13:59 AM
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Word is Toure has agreed terms with Turkish club Trabzonspor.
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I think Eto'o could be a good signing. He's got the EPL experience and he had the best Mins/Goal ratio at Chelsea last season. More importantly with a 1 striker system he's not going to be heavily relied upon, especially if someone like Markovic hits his stride early and Borini finds some form. Not having to part with significant money is another plus. That said, he'd be a cop-out/stopgap for not being able to sign a bigger name like Lavezzi or Reus.
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Looking at eto now, there's a case to be made that we shouldn't be spending £40 mil on a striker on a multi year deal when we have Sturridge as our lone man up front and origi coming in next season. And even if he's on say £100,000 a week, that's only £5mil for one season we'd be saving money on a the free transfer anyway.
He's not in his prime, but he had a decent season at Chelsea and he'd add depth. Thougts?
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imnofreak wrote:Looks like Moreno is finally going through.
Good to have competition for FBs. I imagine Moreno will start LB and Johnson/Flanno/Manquillo to fight for RB.
Manquillo will be moved from side to side I'd expect. Covering wherever he's needed.
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yes imno starting to see the depth - reading BR mentions 1 or 2 more by end of the month. Impressive Anfield debut by Lovren.
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Looks like Moreno is finally going through.
Good to have competition for FBs. I imagine Moreno will start LB and Johnson/Flanno/Manquillo to fight for RB.
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afromanGT wrote:furns wrote:imnofreak wrote:Wont happen. yep - Falcao is nailed on for Real apparently. Lavezzi is available for 18mil pounds, which may be a better option I'd say it seems unlikely tbh. He's an ex-Atletico player don't forget. Lavezzi for 18m would be great. Wasn't the thought behind Falcao's move to Monaco at the time that it would be the club that bridged his move from Atletico to Real?
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jlm8695 wrote:Lavezzi is 29 and would be on bigish wages. Would be a great signing but not one I see your owners sanctioning (or Rodgers wanting). I dunno that he'd be too popular at Anfield after his recent photos wearing nothing but a police hat and a naked woman :lol:
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Lavezzi is 29 and would be on bigish wages. Would be a great signing but not one I see your owners sanctioning (or Rodgers wanting).
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furns wrote:imnofreak wrote:Wont happen. yep - Falcao is nailed on for Real apparently. Lavezzi is available for 18mil pounds, which may be a better option I'd say it seems unlikely tbh. He's an ex-Atletico player don't forget. Lavezzi for 18m would be great.
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imnofreak wrote:Wont happen. yep - Falcao is nailed on for Real apparently. Lavezzi is available for 18mil pounds, which may be a better option
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M.L. wrote:Pr1mo wrote:So yeah, we're in for Falcao apparently..... Cavani again as well - can't imagine it considering the kind of $$$$ this would entail...... Cavani is too slow and immobile for the EPL. Falcao would be great. Loan with option to buy.
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Wont happen.
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Pr1mo wrote:So yeah, we're in for Falcao apparently..... Cavani again as well - can't imagine it considering the kind of $$$$ this would entail......
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So yeah, we're in for Falcao apparently.....
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pv4 wrote:benelsmore wrote:Manquillo confirmed on a 2 year loan with an option to buy. Hope it means Johnson is off and Flanagan can be promoted to first choice RB I'm not sure I remember ever seeing a 2 year loan before. Interesting. I just assumed there was some kind of rule preventing you from just upfront loaning a guy for more than a season. Edited by pv4: 7/8/2014 09:18:08 AM By rules you can only loan a player for 1 season, but the clubs have a contract in place to renew the loan after 12 months. It's becoming slowly more common. I'm surprised Atleti didn't cash in on Juanfran and keep Manquillo. The lad played some decent football when he was in the team. Looking forward to seeing what he can do. Johnson will be kept around for another season, but he has so much competition at RB now - Kelly, Manquillo and Flanno...
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pv4 wrote:[quote=benelsmore]I'm not sure I remember ever seeing a 2 year loan before. Interesting. I just assumed there was some kind of rule preventing you from just upfront loaning a guy for more than a season.
We had Tevez on loan from West Ham for 2 seasons.
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Flanagan wont be first choice RB. Looking forward to seeing what Manquillo has to offer
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benelsmore wrote:Manquillo confirmed on a 2 year loan with an option to buy. Hope it means Johnson is off and Flanagan can be promoted to first choice RB I'm not sure I remember ever seeing a 2 year loan before. Interesting. I just assumed there was some kind of rule preventing you from just upfront loaning a guy for more than a season. Edited by pv4: 7/8/2014 09:18:08 AM
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Well at his age he does have to look ahead but even saying that at 31 he's got quite a few years left. Shame being a bench warmer imo. Yes Redkat agree, I'd love someone taking Johnson's place.
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