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Front page of Danish daily featuring Tom Boyd:


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Mister Football wrote:
[quote=Mister Football]Financial results for the 2013 season:

Collingwood: $16.35 million net* (reduced to a mere $5 mill after adjustments)
Richmond: $3.3 mill profit
Carlton: $528,000
Essendon: -$3.2 million (includes ASADA/AFL costs)
Hawthorn: - $928,000 ($4 million impairment on consolidated revenue)
Brisbane: - $1.5 mill ($43.5 mill in revenue)
North: $1 mill profit
Geelong: net profit of $1.2 million


Bulldogs have announced a loss of $143,090 (from revenue of $34 mill).

Freo expecting a net profit of $650,000, after allowing for a contribution of $4.8 mill to the WA Football Commission. During the finals series alone, they sold $1 million in merchandise.
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NRL gifts the AFL a free kick with digital rights deal:
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/rugby-league-gifts-afl-a-free-kick-with-digital-rights-deal/story-fni3fbgz-1226772278557


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Mister Football wrote:
Tom Boyd on the front page of Denmark's national paper:
http://www.mx.dk/sport/sportsnyheder/story/26575142

It was Mx :lol: Y'know, the "newspaper" you get on the train.
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afromanGT wrote:
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Tom Boyd on the front page of Denmark's national paper:
http://www.mx.dk/sport/sportsnyheder/story/26575142

It was Mx :lol: Y'know, the "newspaper" you get on the train.


so?
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Mister Football wrote:
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Tom Boyd on the front page of Denmark's national paper:
http://www.mx.dk/sport/sportsnyheder/story/26575142

It was Mx :lol: Y'know, the "newspaper" you get on the train.


so?

It's neither national nor a newspaper.
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afromanGT wrote:
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Tom Boyd on the front page of Denmark's national paper:
http://www.mx.dk/sport/sportsnyheder/story/26575142

It was Mx :lol: Y'know, the "newspaper" you get on the train.


so?

It's neither national nor a newspaper.


See that picture above?
That's normally called a newspaper.

The giants reckon its the most widely read "newspaper" in Denmark (daily circulation of 500,000):
http://www.gwsgiants.com.au/news/2013-11-26/the-prince-of-denmark

I reckon that must make it pretty close to "national" - although admittedly, Denmark is a very small country.
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It's a daily free publication you get on the train. Like the mx here #-o it's a gimmick publication.
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afromanGT wrote:
It's a daily free publication you get on the train. Like the mx here #-o it's a gimmick publication.


Lots of media is free - you can't do anything more than be the most widely read.


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afromanGT wrote:
it's a gimmick publication.

afromanGT wrote:
it's a gimmick publication.

afromanGT wrote:
it's a gimmick publication.

afromanGT wrote:
it's a gimmick publication.

afromanGT wrote:
it's a gimmick publication.

afromanGT wrote:
it's a gimmick publication.

afromanGT wrote:
it's a gimmick publication.

afromanGT wrote:
it's a gimmick publication.

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sobkowski wrote:
#aflOUT


Or, you know, maybe just ignore the thread if you've no interest in the sport FFS.
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AFL's behind-the-scenes tactics in Essendon punishment talks exposed
MICHAEL WARNER AND MARK ROBINSON
HERALD SUN
DECEMBER 04, 2013 7:51AM


EXCLUSIVE: SECRET documents and a bombshell email have lifted the lid on behind-the-scenes inducements offered to Essendon and James Hird as the AFL worked frantically to pressure him to accept drugs scandal penalties.

The Herald Sun can reveal that days before the August 26-27 AFL Commission hearing was due to consider penalties, deals were being proposed by Australia's top government-appointed sports official, John Wylie.

A document emailed by Wylie to Essendon chairman Paul Little on the night of August 23 outlined potential settlement terms as the crisis threatened to spill into the Supreme Court.

Wylie, the Australian Sports Commission chairman, suggests: "Hird as senior coach takes responsibility for the inadequate governance and oversight within the club's football department that gave rise to this situation.

"It is however acknowledged …. to the best of the AFL's knowledge and belief, Hird did not promote or encourage an unethical environment within the club; Hird has not brought the game into disrepute.

"In the totality of the circumstances, the AFL will impose, and Hird will accept, a 12-month suspension from all coaching duties."

In a separate document presented to Hird on August 23, amid negotiations between Wylie and Little, the Essendon coach is offered "an outstanding career development opportunity" in return for dropping his legal action against the AFL.

Offers of "no player sanctions'' and "no double jeopardy'' despite an ASADA investigation are discussed.

Hird emerged from his Toorak home at 6.30am today, unwilling to answer questions.

Dressed in a suit and tie, he got into his car and drove away without making comment.

Wylie said last night: "I was requested by both Paul Little and (AFL Commission chairman) Mike Fitzpatrick, in the first instance by Paul, to assist in communications between the AFL and Essendon at a time when ­direct communication between them was difficult."

The AFL is set to respond to the reports this morning.

The league will reportedly send a letter to all clubs this morning "clarifying elements" of the bombshell revelations.

League spokesman James Tonkin said last night: "Numerous discussions took place at different levels in a bid to resolve the matter as quickly and appropriately as possible."

An offer to allow Hird to receive a full salary while serving a 12-month ban was also discussed.

The document presented to the Essendon coach reads: "Charge of bringing game into disrepute dropped. 12 months suspension starting now.''

It states Hird could also keep his place in the AFL Hall of Fame and be "acknowledged by the AFL as a legend of the game".

In exchange for the offers, the document says Hird therefore "withdraws all legal action immediately".

A string of revelations to be published in the Herald Sun and The Australian over the coming days raises major perception issues surrounding the integrity and the outcome of both the drugs probe and the AFL Commission hearing.

AFL chief Andrew Demetriou said on August 7: "To suggest the AFL Commission and the people on the commission would somehow predetermine an outcome is offensive and just plain wrong."

It is not known if all AFL commissioners were aware of Wylie's involvement or of proposed inducements at the time they were asked to sign off on the final resolution against Essendon and its four officials on August 27.

Little last night confirmed the talks with Wylie. He said: ``John Wylie is a longstanding personal friend and we discussed possible strategies for settling the dispute.''

Hird is understood to have rebuffed the inducements put on the table on August 23, only to accept a 12-month suspension four days later under fierce pressure and fearing that he would be banished from the game and his club.

There were also discussions about sending Hird to Oxford University in England, where both Wylie and Fitzpatrick are Rhodes scholars.

Hird later independently applied to attend the exclusive Fontainebleau business school in France, passing an entrance exam in Singapore. He has just returned from his $120,000 MBA studies.

Sources have questioned why Wylie as chairman of the Sports Commission - which works with the Australian Sports and Anti-Doping Authority to fight drug cheating and which promotes integrity in sport - was drafted into pre-hearing bartering with the approval of AFL Commission chairman Fitzpatrick.

Proposed penalties for Mark Thompson, Bruce Reid and Danny Corcoran are also stated in correspondence, with Thompson cleared to coach again in 2014.

A club fine of $1.5 million and the deduction of 12 premiership points "so as to miss the finals" are also documented. The club was ultimately fined $2 million and relegated to ninth on the AFL ladder.

Hird and Fitzpatrick did not return questions from the ­Herald Sun.

- with Ashley Argoon

The AFL stands accused of doing deals brokered by the Australian Sports Commision just days before the league's August commision hearing.
AFL Chair Mike Fitzpatrick hands down sanctions to the Essendon Football Club.
Essendon chairman Paul Little says outgoing coach James Hird accepted the penalties for the good of the club.


http://m.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afls-behindthescenes-tactics-in-essendon-punishment-talks-exposed/story-fni5f6kv-1226774538768


Wow. Disgraceful.
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Top rating Fox broadcasts in 2013 (cut off at 275k):



Total Pay TV ratings for 2013:

AFL: 44.9 mill

NRL: 28.8 mill
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I'm sorry, I came in here expecting the AFL thread. It seems to be the fox sports ratings thread. My mistake.
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afromanGT wrote:
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I'm sorry, I came in here expecting the AFL thread. It seems to be the fox sports ratings thread. My mistake.


The preponderance of AFL games makes it more relevant to the AFL thread than the general sports thread.

My guess is that it would be of interest to AFL fans.
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Auckland has won their first NPC title since 2007:
http://aflnz.co.nz/auckland-win-first-afl-new-zealand-npc-since-2007/

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Decided to rename the thread, as we are starting to branch into posting about stuff outside of the AFL, and if it means less whiny bitches coming in here to cry themselves to sleep, it's for the better.
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The 20 most valuable sporting brands in Australia
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/eagles-finally-beat-the-dockers--in-financial-terms-at-least-20131204-2yr13.html#ixzz2mXeXfBLJ

1. Penrith Panthers ($46.2m)
2. Collingwood Magpies ($39.1m)
3. Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs ($34.5m)
4. West Coast Eagles ($32.6m)
5. Hawthorn Hawks ($27.1m)
6. Geelong Cats ($26.8m)
7. Carlton Blues ($25.3m)
8. Fremantle Dockers ($24.3m)
9. Essendon Bombers ($24m)
10. Sydney Swans ($22.7m)
11. Parramatta Eels ($21.3m)
12. Richmond Tigers ($21.1m)
13. Adelaide Crows ($20.9m)
14. Brisbane Lions ($20.4m)
15. Brisbane Broncos ($18.6m)
16. Port Adelaide Power ($17.8m)
17. St Kilda Saints ($16.5m)
18. Canberra Raiders ($16m)
19. Melbourne FC ($15m)
20. Sydney Roosters ($14.5m)


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Funky Munky wrote:
Decided to rename the thread, as we are starting to branch into posting about stuff outside of the AFL, and if it means less whiny bitches coming in here to cry themselves to sleep, it's for the better.


It seems fair enough, but for the sake of clarity you might want to include "(AFL)" at the end.
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I did original have it as Australian Rules Football, but I felt like rustling a few Jimmies first :p.
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sobkowski wrote:
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sobkowski wrote:
#aflOUT


Or, you know, maybe just ignore the thread if you've no interest in the sport FFS.


Jokezbrah

You know how people generally make those retarded hashtags of "insertnameOUT" at anything, these days?

I thought it was funny, at least.


I saw the funny side of it.
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Funky Munky wrote:
I did original have it as Australian Rules Football, but I felt like rustling a few Jimmies first :p.


in that case - the floor is yours!
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Funky Munky wrote:
I did original have it as Australian Rules Football, but I felt like rustling a few Jimmies first :p.

I was thinking "don't we have a whole sub-forum for that?" Then realised what thread it was.
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The 20 most valuable sporting brands in Australia
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/eagles-finally-beat-the-dockers--in-financial-terms-at-least-20131204-2yr13.html#ixzz2mXeXfBLJ

1. Penrith Panthers ($46.2m)
2. Collingwood Magpies ($39.1m)
3. Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs ($34.5m)
4. West Coast Eagles ($32.6m)
5. Hawthorn Hawks ($27.1m)
6. Geelong Cats ($26.8m)
7. Carlton Blues ($25.3m)
8. Fremantle Dockers ($24.3m)
9. Essendon Bombers ($24m)
10. Sydney Swans ($22.7m)
11. Parramatta Eels ($21.3m)
12. Richmond Tigers ($21.1m)
13. Adelaide Crows ($20.9m)
14. Brisbane Lions ($20.4m)
15. Brisbane Broncos ($18.6m)
16. Port Adelaide Power ($17.8m)
17. St Kilda Saints ($16.5m)
18. Canberra Raiders ($16m)
19. Melbourne FC ($15m)
20. Sydney Roosters ($14.5m)



Penrith ? :-k :-k
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The 20 most valuable sporting brands in Australia
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/eagles-finally-beat-the-dockers--in-financial-terms-at-least-20131204-2yr13.html#ixzz2mXeXfBLJ

1. Penrith Panthers ($46.2m)
2. Collingwood Magpies ($39.1m)
3. Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs ($34.5m)
4. West Coast Eagles ($32.6m)
5. Hawthorn Hawks ($27.1m)
6. Geelong Cats ($26.8m)
7. Carlton Blues ($25.3m)
8. Fremantle Dockers ($24.3m)
9. Essendon Bombers ($24m)
10. Sydney Swans ($22.7m)
11. Parramatta Eels ($21.3m)
12. Richmond Tigers ($21.1m)
13. Adelaide Crows ($20.9m)
14. Brisbane Lions ($20.4m)
15. Brisbane Broncos ($18.6m)
16. Port Adelaide Power ($17.8m)
17. St Kilda Saints ($16.5m)
18. Canberra Raiders ($16m)
19. Melbourne FC ($15m)
20. Sydney Roosters ($14.5m)



Penrith ? :-k :-k


it's a little bit strange
pokies?
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pokies?

Collingwood own pubs with poker machines as well.
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afromanGT wrote:
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pokies?

Collingwood own pubs with poker machines as well.



Yes, but there is one Collingwood Football Club, and of around $75 mill in revenue they earned last season, around $22 mill (or 30%) is gaming revenue - the rest is earned from being a football club. The revenue is all earned by the one Club, remains in the Club, is used by the club (to run a football team).

The Sydney rugby league clubs are a little bit different (and this is a very basic understanding I have).

They generally have a very large club, choc block full of pokies, making a fortune in pokie money, and then they have a separate arm running the football operation, which generally makes bugger all money, and the gaming establishment funds its shortfall in revenue to remain in the NRL - but the gaming arm keeps the bulk of the money for its own use - it's not directed to the football operation - except to the bare amount needed.

In other words, in the case of Penrith, once again, an absolutely massive clubhouse in Penrith (by all accounts), plus they own gaming venues all over NSW (other sporting clubs).

Then they have the football club - a pissant operation - they fund the minimum amount required - and they have these tens of millions of dollars in cash reserves swilling around buying up more gaming venues all over NSW.

So while Collingwood is earning $53 million from its football operations, and $22 million from gaming...

Penrith is earning less than $10 million in football operations, while the Club (the gaming operation), is earning who knows? $100 million?? $200 million?? I don't know what it is - but I would suggest to you that whatever it is - it's very big!
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this is an example of what I'm talking about:

http://www.panthers.com.au/Home

the Panthers Group - Entertainment
links to nine sports clubs (gaming venues)
Plus one link to "football" - the Penrith Panthers
http://www.penrithpanthers.com.au/

here's CFC:
http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/

there's nothing else
just the Collingwood FC

I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing the top 20 sports franchises above is valuing the Panthers Group, not just the pissant football club.
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Seems more or less the same to me. Collingwood own several venues with poker machines.
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afromanGT wrote:
Seems more or less the same to me. Collingwood own several venues with poker machines.


The actual football club owns them, runs them, and the money is controlled by the football club.

In the case of the Panthers, there is a holding club specialising in gaming venues, who run a football club as a small part of their operations.

It's all in reverse:

Football club runs gaming venues (70/30 split in favour of football revenue)

or

Gaming company runs football club (split way, way, way other way round - football club has zero claim to the gaming revenue)
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