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I petition to change this thread name to "AFL Thread". I keep accidentally clicking in here instead of the Football Manager thread.
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afromanGT
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macktheknife wrote:I petition to change this thread name to "AFL Thread". I keep accidentally clicking in here instead of the Football Manager thread. I keep accidentally not clicking on this thread because it says "Australian Football".
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Mister Football
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Speaking of Collingwood - they are on track to reach 100,000 members this year: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-12-11/pies-on-track-for-100kAFTER recording a profit of more than $5 million last month on the back of 80,000 members in 2013, Collingwood has let the world know it has already signed 60,000 members for next season.
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afromanGT
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How many of those are pets?
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Mister Football
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afromanGT wrote:How many of those are pets? unclear but I'm thinking if you're making $5 mill profit from 80,000 memberships, it probably means that each new pet membership sold adds to the bottom line so 20,000 pet memberships x $100 basically adds another $2 million to the bottom line most professional football clubs in Australia would gladly accept that sort of coin
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afromanGT
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Mister Football wrote:afromanGT wrote:How many of those are pets? unclear but I'm thinking if you're making $5 mill profit from 80,000 memberships, it probably means that each new pet membership sold adds to the bottom line so 20,000 pet memberships x $100 basically adds another $2 million to the bottom line most professional football clubs in Australia would gladly accept that sort of coin Pet memberships shouldn't be reflective of the club's health though. No matter how you put it they're not attending games, they're not buying merchandise, they're not reflective of a club's growth as people who are already members are buying them for their pets, and they don't have voting rights. They may as well just make up a membership number - which I'm convinced some clubs do.
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Glory Recruit
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Australian Rules Football Thread might be better.
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macktheknife wrote:I petition to change this thread name to "AFL Thread". I keep accidentally clicking in here instead of the Football Manager thread. I second this, for the same reason :oops:
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Mister Football
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afromanGT wrote:Mister Football wrote:afromanGT wrote:How many of those are pets? unclear but I'm thinking if you're making $5 mill profit from 80,000 memberships, it probably means that each new pet membership sold adds to the bottom line so 20,000 pet memberships x $100 basically adds another $2 million to the bottom line most professional football clubs in Australia would gladly accept that sort of coin Pet memberships shouldn't be reflective of the club's health though. No matter how you put it they're not attending games, they're not buying merchandise, they're not reflective of a club's growth as people who are already members are buying them for their pets, and they don't have voting rights. They may as well just make up a membership number - which I'm convinced some clubs do. I can't think of too many Australian sporting clubs who would reject a $2 million dollar addition to their bottom line - earned directly from fans of the club - fans who become part of their mail list - buy other merchandise and who might one day purchase premium forms of membership. Edited by Mister Football: 12/12/2013 08:34:06 AM
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afromanGT
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Mister Football wrote:afromanGT wrote:Mister Football wrote:afromanGT wrote:How many of those are pets? unclear but I'm thinking if you're making $5 mill profit from 80,000 memberships, it probably means that each new pet membership sold adds to the bottom line so 20,000 pet memberships x $100 basically adds another $2 million to the bottom line most professional football clubs in Australia would gladly accept that sort of coin Pet memberships shouldn't be reflective of the club's health though. No matter how you put it they're not attending games, they're not buying merchandise, they're not reflective of a club's growth as people who are already members are buying them for their pets, and they don't have voting rights. They may as well just make up a membership number - which I'm convinced some clubs do. I can't think of too many Australian sporting clubs who would reject a $2 million dollar addition to their bottom line - earned directly from fans of the club - fans who become part of their mail list - buy other merchandise and who might one day purchase premium forms of membership. Edited by Mister Football: 12/12/2013 08:34:06 AM That doesn't change that they SHOULD NOT BE COUNTED in membership sales.
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Funky Munky
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afromanGT wrote: That doesn't change that they SHOULD NOT BE COUNTED in membership sales.
Do you have any proof that they are? I see lots of people on here claiming it, but I've never seen any hard evidence that it's a fact.
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afromanGT
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Funky Munky wrote:afromanGT wrote: That doesn't change that they SHOULD NOT BE COUNTED in membership sales.
Do you have any proof that they are? I see lots of people on here claiming it, but I've never seen any hard evidence that it's a fact. How else could Collingwood have 80,000+ members and still fail to sell out games?
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This thread is wrongly named. Back to AFL plz
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Funky Munky
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afromanGT wrote:Funky Munky wrote:afromanGT wrote: That doesn't change that they SHOULD NOT BE COUNTED in membership sales.
Do you have any proof that they are? I see lots of people on here claiming it, but I've never seen any hard evidence that it's a fact. How else could Collingwood have 80,000+ members and still fail to sell out games? They do have a lot of fans across the country, not just in Melbourne. I think you'll find whenever they play interstate, there's always a higher crowd than average for the team they're playing against. Plus there's probably a large amount of smaller game memberships. Either way, that's not hard evidence. It's worth noting that on their membership packages page, Pet Memberships aren't even listed as a package. They're listed under add-ons, alongside merchandise, etc. Hardly seems like something they'd count.
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afromanGT
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So the tens of thousands of fans they have who aren't members, plus the 80,000+ paid up members and they can't sell out games? No. I'm not buying it.
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afromanGT
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:lol:
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Funky Munky
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:lol:
Says a lot about the average A-League fans ability to read tbh.
Edited by Funky Munky: 12/12/2013 02:01:48 PM
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afromanGT
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Funky Munky wrote::lol:
Says a lot about the average A-League fans ability to read tbh.
Edited by Funky Munky: 12/12/2013 02:01:48 PM Says a lot about your Jimmy Rustling backfiring.
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Funky Munky
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afromanGT wrote:Funky Munky wrote::lol:
Says a lot about the average A-League fans ability to read tbh.
Edited by Funky Munky: 12/12/2013 02:01:48 PM Says a lot about your Jimmy Rustling backfiring. I don't really see how so :lol:.
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Can you change this to include "rules" or back to AFL. The title is misleading.
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Mister Football
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Sydney reports a profit http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-12-12/swans-stay-in-the-blackQuote:THE SYDNEY Swans recorded a profit of $646,745 for the 2013 financial year, the club's third straight year in the black.
“I am really pleased we managed to grow our membership to over 36,000 off the back of our premiership year in 2012 as we welcomed over 10,000 new members to the club.
“We are targeting over 40,000 members in 2014."
With the redevelopment of the SCG almost complete, and the addition of Buddy Franklin to the playing roster, the Swans are confident of drawing some big crowds to their games this coming season.
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Nauru has had a strong win over Fiji in the Oceania Cup:
GRAND FINAL Nauru 8-8-56 def Fiji 2-1-13
Representatives from Nauru, Fiji, Tonga, Vanuatu and the Solomon Islands will now make up the representative Oceania team which will play against PNG and NZ in the South Pacific cup.
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Culture Quote: Jake King 'defies' Richmond on Mitchell links
Date December 16, 2013
Richmond AFL player Jake King has defied club orders to end his association with former Bandidos boss Toby Mitchell.
The Tigers could have hit the 29-year-old King with fines or suspensions, only months after ordering him to cut ties with Mitchell.
But President Brendon Gale told SEN radio on Monday morning that the imposition of such heavy penalties was unlikely.
Gale said he was "disappointed" in King for being linked to Mitchell, but his club did not enforce "hard and fast rules" about which people its players could associate with, instead offering "advice and guidance". He described the current situation as an "instructive opportunity". Advertisement
"We expect them as adults to make their own decisions...
"We would expect Jake to make better decisions... "It has been brought to his attention... that he should think long and hard about those sorts of friendships..." Gale said.
He said he would be talking to the defensive forward later today.
News Corp has on Monday run a front-page photo of King and Toby Mitchell watching lingerie-clad women play American football at AAMI Park on Saturday.
Gale said King had attended the game with a large group of friends and "bumped into" Mitchell at the event. He emphasised that King's involvement with Mitchell pre-dated his time at Richmond.
Following the Tigers' round-20 win over Brisbane at the MCG, Mitchell had been invited into the Richmond rooms by King, prompting the club to tell the player his association with the former bikie enforcer was unacceptable.
Richmond went on to warn their whole playing list not to associate with criminals in any way.
The Australian Crime Commission had warned athletes who associated with criminals that they put themselves in danger of corruption. Gale said players had been warned that, as public figures, they had to be particularly mindful of their behaviour after the release of the Commission's report.
"The contents talk about the connection between criminal identities and organised crime between human growth hormones... match-fixing, corruption, there’s that risk," he said.
"Our players, like all players, have got to be very mindful of associating with those with a criminal past."
The event was the LFL’s first match in Melbourne, featuring scantily-clad women playing a modified version of gridiron, drawing more than 3000 people to AAMI Park.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/jake-king-defies-richmond-on-mitchell-links-20131216-2zfsx.html
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Culture part 2. Quote: West Coast Eagle Murray Newman accused of threatening man on Facebook
December 17, 2013 7:17AM
WEST Coast Eagles footballer Murray Newman threatened a man on Facebook for sleeping with his girlfriend before fracturing the man's jaw at a nightclub, a court has heard.
Newman is on trial in the Perth District Court accused of causing grievous bodily harm to Brett Marris, then aged 20, in November last year.
Prosecutors alleged today that Newman had a grudge against Mr Marris because he had slept with Newman's girlfriend when the couple were on a break.
After weeks of threats from Newman on Facebook, the pair saw each other at the Library Nightclub in Northbridge, where they fought for about 10 seconds before bouncers broke up the fight, the court heard.
But the defence team said Newman, who was the only one of the pair sober that night, acted in self-defence against a taller man.
Mr Marris testified that Newman confronted him near the entrance of the club and wanted to have a fight outside.
He said Newman was loud and aggressive, and took the first swing.
Mr Marris said he drank 10 mixed drinks that night and had pushed Newman with an open hand, but denied placing his hand on Newman's neck and upper chest.
"He had been threatening me for months prior over Facebook," he said.
In one message shown to the court, Newman wrote: "Start digging a grave."
Newman also called Mr Marris a "little girl" and asked why he did not want to meet "for a crack".
In another message, Newman wrote: "I won't rest til you ey (sic) hurt."
Mr Marris said he did not seek medical treatment immediately after the fight, but applied ice to his jaw.
He said he was in more pain the next day but it was not until the following day that he went to a hospital and had surgery.
Mr Marris also admitted he wanted to get compensation.
West Coast Eagles captain Darren Glass was sitting in court.
The trial continues.
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/west-coast-eagle-murray-newman-accused-of-threatening-man-on-facebook/story-fnhocxo3-1226784331423
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Frankly I don't blame Jake King. Who are the club to tell him who he can and can't be social with?
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afromanGT wrote:Frankly I don't blame Jake King. Who are the club to tell him who he can and can't be social with? Not saying I don't agree with you but, if the identities they are associating with are known criminal identities it will potentially damage the clubs 'brand'. I would assume that it would be a standard clause within the contract that the player must not knowingly damage the clubs (and AFL's) brand.
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afromanGT wrote:Frankly I don't blame Jake King. Who are the club to tell him who he can and can't be social with? They haven't really though, they've been pretty clear that they don't like it and have advised against it but the media are trying to make something more out of it by making it seem he's "defied club orders".
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Slow news day . Wait it's the off season . Still xanthine belive that Tom bell chambers apparently not paying a bill is news worthy
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