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it was a interesting interview, especially how he discusses the under 20s, the lack of youth in the a-league and the FFA ciriculum..is this guy good, can we say he's been good for aus football considering the lack of resources he has in his disposal??? what do u think???
I give him about a 8 out of 10.
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Davstar
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He is probably the only guy in the FFA who knows something about football. i'd give him 9/10 people bagged him out when he introduced the Fifa licensing rules now looks at Aronald and Agne... He genuinely wants Australian football to grow and not for his own benefit unlike others (who i shall not name). Fozz and the rest of the TWG team have respect everything he has to say and no one disputes him that has got to be worth something as these guys where once football players and Socceroos. Edited by Davstar: 2/5/2011 10:24:26 PM
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Joffa
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I can't believe the FFA are considering abolishing the three youth player requirement on club lists.
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Joffa wrote:I can't believe the FFA are considering abolishing the three youth player requirement on club lists. That would be a real shame and slap in the face to the upcoming players.
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Davstar
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Joffa wrote:I can't believe the FFA are considering abolishing the three youth player requirement on club lists. ill give you that but what would you suggest? Possible alternativeness to make the league more sustainable: - Get rid of the NYL and have a state based reserves side in the state Premier league? - Cut wages? and make the entire league weaker - keep seeing clubs rise and fold... All of which are not great options Edited by Davstar: 2/5/2011 10:28:46 PM
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I had to laugh at The World Game on facebook asking for feedback about Han. People were ripping in to him because the Fury folded and the Rovers bid was chosen. I love Australian football fans.
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Judy Free
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Good?
One of FFA's pre eminent trough feeders - up there with the best.
Credit also how he's managed to find a place at the trough for some of his old unemployed dutch buddies.
And to the think he does all this without any accountability?
That's gotta rate a 10/10.
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Barca4Life
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Davstar wrote:Joffa wrote:I can't believe the FFA are considering abolishing the three youth player requirement on club lists. ill give you that but what would you suggest? Possible alternativeness to make the league more sustainable: - Get rid of the NYL and have a state based reserves side in the state Premier league? - Cut wages? and make the entire league weaker - keep seeing clubs rise and fold... All of which are not great options Edited by Davstar: 2/5/2011 10:28:46 PM Yeh that sucks considering the fact that the FFA are trying cost up everything while being reviewed by the government is a good idea :roll:
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Barca4Life
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Judy Free wrote:Good?
One of FFA's pre eminent trough feeders - up there with the best.
Credit also how he's managed to find a place at the trough for some of his old unemployed dutch buddies.
And to the think he does all this without any accountability?
That's gotta rate a 10/10.
Hmmm how do u know that? Do u work 4 the FFA? :roll:
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Judy Free
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Barca4Life wrote:Judy Free wrote:Good?
One of FFA's pre eminent trough feeders - up there with the best.
Credit also how he's managed to find a place at the trough for some of his old unemployed dutch buddies.
And to the think he does all this without any accountability?
That's gotta rate a 10/10.
Hmmm how do u know that? Do u work 4 the FFA? :roll: Yes, I am their tea lady. Look at those poor old Joey's. These poor kids have been exposed to edam since 11 years of age. Where has it got them? Poor buggers haven't won a game since the dutchies took to the FFA trough. And to think that only a decade ago our Joey's were playing in a World Cup final, developed and coached by backyard westies for beer money. We've come a long way in such a short time haven't we, barca4life? :lol:
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he's up to something
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Barca4Life
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Ok don't get your stupid story but whatever your talking about makes me think your one weird old troll! :lol:
Edited by Barca4life: 2/5/2011 11:07:44 PM
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Judy Free
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Barca4Life wrote:Ok don't get your stupid story but whatever your talking makes me think your one weird old troll! :lol: Perhaps you should make a note in your diary to revisit this thread on your 12th birthday - bound to make much more sense after a little maturity.
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Barca4Life wrote:Ok don't get your stupid story but whatever your talking about makes me think your one weird old troll! :lol:
Edited by Barca4life: 2/5/2011 11:07:44 PM you sound defeated ?
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Barca4Life
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Judy Free wrote:Barca4Life wrote:Ok don't get your stupid story but whatever your talking makes me think your one weird old troll! :lol: Perhaps you should make a note in your diary to revisit this thread on your 12th birthday - bound to make much more sense after a little maturity. why should I, and not I'm 12 I'm 23! I don't need to listen to u
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Davstar wrote:Joffa wrote:I can't believe the FFA are considering abolishing the three youth player requirement on club lists. ill give you that but what would you suggest? Possible alternativeness to make the league more sustainable: - Get rid of the NYL and have a state based reserves side in the state Premier league? - Cut wages? and make the entire league weaker - keep seeing clubs rise and fold... All of which are not great options Edited by Davstar: 2/5/2011 10:28:46 PM What are you talking about? The 3 youth players will be replaced by 3 senior players to make up the required squad, and on higher wages.
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Joffa wrote:I can't believe the FFA are considering abolishing the three youth player requirement on club lists. What was the stated purpose?
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watching it now... delayed laugh by Zdrillic was lolworthy, was one of those nervous laughs where he didn't get the joke
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I'd kill to know why they wanna do this
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Judy Free wrote:Barca4Life wrote:Judy Free wrote:Good?
One of FFA's pre eminent trough feeders - up there with the best.
Credit also how he's managed to find a place at the trough for some of his old unemployed dutch buddies.
And to the think he does all this without any accountability?
That's gotta rate a 10/10.
Hmmm how do u know that? Do u work 4 the FFA? :roll: Yes, I am their tea lady. Look at those poor old Joey's. These poor kids have been exposed to edam since 11 years of age. Where has it got them? Poor buggers haven't won a game since the dutchies took to the FFA trough. And to think that only a decade ago our Joey's were playing in a World Cup final, developed and coached by backyard westies for beer money. We've come a long way in such a short time haven't we, barca4life? :lol: Man I just felt like I know you from TWGF. Is that you Mr Rafferty? Our Joeys succeeded because we relied on physicality, which gets you results at that age. But gets you nowhere at senior level, where technique and tactics decide match outcomes. Berger his said its his aim to have success playing a technical level of football. He repeated that tonight. We nearly won the Asia Cup at junior level. What disappointed but didn't surprise me was the take up of SSG and the 433 at junior clubs has been disappointing. I wasn't surprised because both of the two local clubs at under 10-under 14 level were totally ignoring this and coaching the way they always have...I was disappointed as this seems to be widespread
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Barca4Life wrote:Judy Free wrote:Barca4Life wrote:Ok don't get your stupid story but whatever your talking makes me think your one weird old troll! :lol: Perhaps you should make a note in your diary to revisit this thread on your 12th birthday - bound to make much more sense after a little maturity. why should I, and not I'm 12 I'm 23! I don't need to listen to u FYI in 1999 at the U17 World Cup, Australia faced Brazil and lost on penalties in the final. Australian team included the likes of Van Stratten, McDonald, Kennedy, Madaaschi, North, Srhoj etc http://www.fifa.com/tournaments/archive/tournament=102/edition=3611/matches/match=18496/report.htmlSo what Judy Free is saying has merit. 10 years ago we went the distance with our youth and took Brazil to penalties (I remember this was all over the papers at the time, back page and everything). Now we struggle against minnow Asian teams. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_FIFA_U-17_World_Championshipwe also topped our group which included Brazil. Football existed pre 2005 :shock: :shock:
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stefcep wrote:Judy Free wrote:Barca4Life wrote:Judy Free wrote:Good?
One of FFA's pre eminent trough feeders - up there with the best.
Credit also how he's managed to find a place at the trough for some of his old unemployed dutch buddies.
And to the think he does all this without any accountability?
That's gotta rate a 10/10.
Hmmm how do u know that? Do u work 4 the FFA? :roll: Yes, I am their tea lady. Look at those poor old Joey's. These poor kids have been exposed to edam since 11 years of age. Where has it got them? Poor buggers haven't won a game since the dutchies took to the FFA trough. And to think that only a decade ago our Joey's were playing in a World Cup final, developed and coached by backyard westies for beer money. We've come a long way in such a short time haven't we, barca4life? :lol: Man I just felt like I know you from TWGF. Is that you Mr Rafferty? Our Joeys succeeded because we relied on physicality, which gets you results at that age. But gets you nowhere at senior level, where technique and tactics decide match outcomes. Berger his said its his aim to have success playing a technical level of football. He repeated that tonight. We nearly won the Asia Cup at junior level. What disappointed but didn't surprise me was the take up of SSG and the 433 at junior clubs has been disappointing. I wasn't surprised because both of the two local clubs at under 10-under 14 level were totally ignoring this and coaching the way they always have...I was disappointed as this seems to be widespread I picked him first post too, Stefcep. Chips Rafferty has been trolling in the Performance Section for about a month, insulting most he meets with his inimitable brand of cynicism, patronisation and sarcasm. Chips' name is different. The message is the same. The FFA message isn't reaching the grass roots yet. Berger's campaign to play a more technical style is long term. Berger considers physical football can win the odd game, but not consistent performances. Edited by Decentric: 3/5/2011 12:19:30 AM
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Erebus wrote:Barca4Life wrote:Judy Free wrote:Barca4Life wrote:Ok don't get your stupid story but whatever your talking makes me think your one weird old troll! :lol: Perhaps you should make a note in your diary to revisit this thread on your 12th birthday - bound to make much more sense after a little maturity. why should I, and not I'm 12 I'm 23! I don't need to listen to u FYI in 1999 at the U17 World Cup, Australia faced Brazil and lost on penalties in the final. Australian team included the likes of Van Stratten, McDonald, Kennedy, Madaaschi, North, Srhoj etc http://www.fifa.com/tournaments/archive/tournament=102/edition=3611/matches/match=18496/report.htmlSo what Judy Free is saying has merit. 10 years ago we went the distance with our youth and took Brazil to penalties (I remember this was all over the papers at the time, back page and everything). Now we struggle against minnow Asian teams. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_FIFA_U-17_World_Championshipwe also topped our group which included Brazil. Football existed pre 2005 :shock: :shock: What many don't take into consideration is the improvement of other nations within the same time frame. At a FFA presentation a few years ago, the weaker confederations at youth level have made up considerable ground.
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Decentric that's the real question isn't it, it's how and when will the message will come through for the new technical direction to come through to the grass roots?
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Decentric wrote:Erebus wrote:Barca4Life wrote:Judy Free wrote:Barca4Life wrote:Ok don't get your stupid story but whatever your talking makes me think your one weird old troll! :lol: Perhaps you should make a note in your diary to revisit this thread on your 12th birthday - bound to make much more sense after a little maturity. why should I, and not I'm 12 I'm 23! I don't need to listen to u FYI in 1999 at the U17 World Cup, Australia faced Brazil and lost on penalties in the final. Australian team included the likes of Van Stratten, McDonald, Kennedy, Madaaschi, North, Srhoj etc http://www.fifa.com/tournaments/archive/tournament=102/edition=3611/matches/match=18496/report.htmlSo what Judy Free is saying has merit. 10 years ago we went the distance with our youth and took Brazil to penalties (I remember this was all over the papers at the time, back page and everything). Now we struggle against minnow Asian teams. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_FIFA_U-17_World_Championshipwe also topped our group which included Brazil. Football existed pre 2005 :shock: :shock: What many don't take into consideration is the improvement of other nations within the same time frame. At a FFA presentation a few years ago, the weaker confederations at youth level have made up considerable ground. So why havent we improved over the same time? What the vietnams and thailands have got our resources now?
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Davstar wrote:He is probably the only guy in the FFA who knows something about football.
i'd give him 9/10 people bagged him out when he introduced the Fifa licensing rules now looks at Aronald and Agne...
He genuinely wants Australian football to grow and not for his own benefit unlike others (who i shall not name).
Fozz and the rest of the TWG team have respect everything he has to say and no one disputes him that has got to be worth something as these guys where once football players and Socceroos.
Edited by Davstar: 2/5/2011 10:24:26 PM Yep arnie and ange can thank their lucky stars they sit in on that course.](*,)
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Judy Free wrote:Barca4Life wrote:Judy Free wrote:Good?
One of FFA's pre eminent trough feeders - up there with the best.
Credit also how he's managed to find a place at the trough for some of his old unemployed dutch buddies.
And to the think he does all this without any accountability?
That's gotta rate a 10/10.
Hmmm how do u know that? Do u work 4 the FFA? :roll: Yes, I am their tea lady. Look at those poor old Joey's. These poor kids have been exposed to edam since 11 years of age. Where has it got them? Poor buggers haven't won a game since the dutchies took to the FFA trough. And to think that only a decade ago our Joey's were playing in a World Cup final, developed and coached by backyard westies for beer money. We've come a long way in such a short time haven't we, barca4life? :lol: So taken to its logical conclusion, Chips Rafferty (Judy Free), you would have changed nothing since the new FFA regime came into power in the early nineties? In terms of methodology and curriculum we have closed the gap, through FFA edicts, on better contemporary practices in modern world football in Australia. If we had stuck to the past we would still be entering tournaments hoping for the odd upset and nicking results. Chips, what has happened to your No Holds Barred Forum? Have the few posters on it left?
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rabid wrote:Decentric wrote:Erebus wrote:Barca4Life wrote:Judy Free wrote:Barca4Life wrote:Ok don't get your stupid story but whatever your talking makes me think your one weird old troll! :lol: Perhaps you should make a note in your diary to revisit this thread on your 12th birthday - bound to make much more sense after a little maturity. why should I, and not I'm 12 I'm 23! I don't need to listen to u FYI in 1999 at the U17 World Cup, Australia faced Brazil and lost on penalties in the final. Australian team included the likes of Van Stratten, McDonald, Kennedy, Madaaschi, North, Srhoj etc http://www.fifa.com/tournaments/archive/tournament=102/edition=3611/matches/match=18496/report.htmlSo what Judy Free is saying has merit. 10 years ago we went the distance with our youth and took Brazil to penalties (I remember this was all over the papers at the time, back page and everything). Now we struggle against minnow Asian teams. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_FIFA_U-17_World_Championshipwe also topped our group which included Brazil. Football existed pre 2005 :shock: :shock: What many don't take into consideration is the improvement of other nations within the same time frame. At a FFA presentation a few years ago, the weaker confederations at youth level have made up considerable ground. So why havent we improved over the same time? What the vietnams and thailands have got our resources now? I've lived in the middle-east. They are rich countries spending big money on football. They also have no competition from league, union, cricket and AFL for athletes and corporate sponsorship. Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Oman all have money. Football is a big sport there. Iran and Iraq have big populations. In the east, Japan, Korea and China have money too.
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Barca4Life wrote:Decentric that's the real question isn't it, it's how and when will the message will come through for the new technical direction to come through to the grass roots? It is. Berger admitted there are problems which he claimed are technical. In what context I don't know. We are short circuiting and expediting this process by setting up a mobile football school to take to clubs and regions in our home state.
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rabid wrote: So why havent we improved over the same time?
What the vietnams and thailands have got our resources now?
It is also a question of long term and short term. Short term we may nick more results in tournaments by playing to our current strengths. Long term we need to play a style which is more conducive to success in the international arena. By playing a 4-3-3 possession game we are are a work in progress. We don't yet have a plethora of attacking full backs and wingers.
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