I'm so tired of you and another person trying to undermine almost everyone who comments on 442, or who is involved in the Australian football community. Since you don't create any encouraging football threads yourself, it appears as though you believe that nothing should ever be put here. This is just another instance of you or another force of darkness attacking a member of the 442 forum personally.

Guess none will be this year
 :D

Possibly.

But being enamoured to the point of posting about the abilities of your own kid is a stretch too far.

Fingers crossed he doesn't let your ego down. 

Nice bump - Little bit too enamoured by your own work?

Arguably the best thread in FFT's history.

Decentric, sending in the  lol.

Can't say I blame him given all his idiocy within this thread. 

Dickhead he may be, but at least Chips can spot a fraud unlike 95% of the numpties here.

It's a shame there are so many  who lack his ability to talk big.

It's a shame people allow frauds to flourish.

Just a short cameo, Arfur. Please do not mistake 'grumpiness' for realism. FWIW I don't think I could sleep at night if I gave false hope to strayan sockah yoof  at the direct expense of their financial future. Jobless and directionless at 30, due to very poor advice from two bob gumby daddies  who really should know better. I get pissed off all these useless know nothing  mummy and daddy knob jockeys in strayan sockah know SFA compared to me.

Good to see you're back Judy Free.
Always need a Grumpy Old Man around the place. Makes life interesting.

^ not sure how any of the above supposedly justifies the previous 14 pages of unadulterated (and now proven) bollox perpetuated by the spivs and dills but anyhow.....

I don't doubt for a second that the lower tiers of Scottish football could be seen as a fertile ground for insufficiently-talented aussie kids and their unrealistic parents to continue with their pro-footy fantasies.  

As for life experiences for sockah numpties. Fuck me dead up the arse, why would any sockah numpty want their sockah numpty kiddy to be holed up in a god forsaken shit-hole chasing peanuts at the direct expense of a post-school aussie education.

Have been overseas a few times for football trials and training.
Have also seen that the number of boys going over to Europe off their own bat.

As far as I can see if its something you want to do the first consideration is to trial at Clubs that are achievable.

In 2016 we went to Raith Rovers one boy from South Melbourne got signed up and another boy from Heidelberg United was keenly sort by Raith, St Mirren and St Johnstone.
But they also had advantages, their parents and Grand parents were from the Perth region of Scotland so they had family support. They both had British Passports (though both were born in the UK). The boys played in full and official U20 Development League matches (As did some others) as trialists (Playing as a "trailist" is a great advantage in the UK allowing players to participate in official matches to ascertain their competitiveness).
Scotland is a great destination for Australians firstly its achievable, both these boys play U20 NPL and both have not been in the official FFV and FFA pathways.
Scotland is a mature Football Market with four Divisions comprising 42 Clubs mostly full time Professional with a small playing pool.
Scotland is an easier environment for Australian Footballers to adapt to culturally linguistically and legally.
Scotland is a "SCOUTED" market especially by English Clubs from EPL to Conference League.

Having been to Greece and Cyprus for many its a similar scenario if you're of Greek heritage.
Having also been to France this is an environment that would be very hard to break into.

This appeared recently;
http://www.3aw.com.au/news/melbourne-teenager-signs-to-italian-aleague-team-20170103-gtlm7e.html
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/teenager-snapped-up-to-play-with-genoa-cfc/news-story/5f4932e4d5635dc66994ed2e6bb60594

I don't know how this will work based on FIFA transfer regulations for minors unless the family moves over.

In the end if your an Aussie kid who wants to be a professional you need to get overseas, if not to play then to experience at least.
You have more chance playing professionally in Scotland that in Australia.

WhereTF are you, Aussiesrus? :)

Yes, yes, of course.

The production line of superstars who eventually go on to become legendary district AA12 players remains strong.

This thread is living proof that the step up from EPL to Rydalmere is doable, under the guidance of the right coaching akadumy.

Bless all sockah shysters, spivs, dopes, deadbeats, and this wonderful thread.

All other posts apart from mine are pissers.

Is there at least a new batch of no hopers that can be fraudulently claimed to be future world beaters?

Hahahahahahahahaha.

No, would be the long answer. 

Any of these kids ever kick on?

Lots of talk about EPL trials for kids that can't even cut it in the A-League.

Or do they all cry racism as the reason for failing?

One of the things about these academies these days is that a lot of them now have connections to overseas youth coaches or scouts. They are not necessarily great coaches or better coaches than others but they can give their players opportunities that others can not (including NTC coaches). I've seen some kids score overseas trials who weren't standouts here in Australia and missed out on rep honours because there were better players ahead of them, not politics, but through a coach or a connection they had got these trials.

Krones3,

Forgot to mention. The first session is free to see whether or not the players like it. If the players like it then you can talk further. If they don't then you can walk away no problems.

Tis up to you.

Give tony a ring first to let him know your intentions and all should be fine.

Now that the trollers seem to have disappeared, I must admit Jim Petruzzi's motivational techniques are perplexing to me. That doesn't mean he hasn't had success equipping some people to use the motivational techniques. I'm not sure how many attempts JP had in filming, but his attempt to hit the crossbar was pretty impressive.

What is irrefutable about ASA is that they have placed players in two EPL academies, one J League club and one A league club -that I know about. There are probably a lot more placements too.

A further irrefutable facet of ASA, is that at least one coach has an Asian Confed B Licence. A number of coaches in Australia contend there is a clique and an Old Boys network in Australia. They contend there is a scenario where some coaches are not evaluated objectively when they undertake licence courses, including some stakeholders within FFA. They go to Asia for a cheaper licence and some believe - a more objective assessment.

On point made by Aussiesrus, is that in Asia the licences are more of an all round education. This is a good point for someone like me. I feel I've had a lot of education in 1-4-3-3 and would probably like to look at setting up other formations incrementally.

I feel very confident with 4-4-2 and its variations, but I've had little instruction in 3-5-2. I didn't see the Spain - Italy game in the first round of Euro, but apparently Italy negated Spain's 1-4-3-3 by using a 3-5-2. A lot of players flooded the midfield. Will 3-5-2 become a fashionable formation if Italy beats Spain in the final by using it?

It will be interesting when I do the local FFA C Licence, much cheaper than a centralised FFA C Licence, later this year.

Getting back to ASA, they have qualified coaches and ones who have assisted players to gain pro contracts. The naysayers can say ASA had good players. If this is true, then why did those good players seek out ASA? They must be doing something right.:)






Edited by Decentric: 3/7/2012 12:26:37 AM

Interesting.


FFA Skills Acquisition Programme doesn't provide explicit instruction for players.

That is where SAP, and also state FFA TD, don't like us giving players specific technique instruction at CFP. They contend that if players are already doing techniques correctly, they don't need specific technique instruction. This is similar to what Aussiesrus says occurs at ASA from my understanding. Tell me if I'm wrong, Aussiesrus.

Yet the FFA SAP trainer admits that Coerver trained players are often the best technicians they see in other states. Nevertheless, he is concerned about their decision making.The SAP trainer coaches game intelligence very, very well.

No specific technique instruction may be applicable in the case of coaching elite players. In reality, very few players have elite abilities.

I'm starting to discuss football a lot with the state SAP trainer. I've said that watching his players train, I'm concerned they don't always touch the ball enough.
To his credit, he now asks the players to perform stationary techniques if they are ever in any line, albeit for a very short period of time. He also looked at me when he took the Grass Roots Certificate I attended, when he asked coaches to perform this practice if they ever had players in a line.

The state SAP trainer, and sometimes the state TD, are now assuming the role of who I look to for footballing advice. Pleasingly, the SAP trainer is also amenable to changing practice. I am also trying to incorporate more training into game centred practice. Although in cases like Barcelona Academy's Directional Control, which many of us use, I can't see any way around isolated training.

Interesting prices.

Morton's Soccer School, the only Tasmanian Soccer School, for profit, charges $10 for kids per session. They can have up to three training sessions for something like $30 per week.

Another fee is $200 per month for teenagers/ adults for about five training sessions per week.

They also have a trip to England, playing again EPL academy teams. Unlike ASA, no players have secured contracts though.

krones3,

You would have to ask the owner/director as I do not know what he/she would charge under those circumstances. (Husband and wife team)

Edited by Aussiesrus: 29/6/2012 09:10:16 AM

If a group of 20 under 16-19 came to you for 2 week Intense training 2.5hours in the morning and 2.5 in the afternoon 6 days a week, what would you charge?

krone3,

It depends on how many sessions a week.

1 night week is around $20 a session.
2 nights a week around $15 per session.
3 nights a weeks around $10-15.

These prices are *thereabouts*. It can vary depending on age as well. If you want to know exactly then you can call ASA for more accurate pricing. You can find his contact info on the website. http://www.australasiansocceracademy.com.au

neverwozza,

Structure is important so is technique. ASA players are given a lot of basic, advanced and elite skills depending on players levels. They are seperated into these skill level groups. Players move up levels when they achieve the skills.

The rep players generally know structure well and what do to in certain situations. Where players like Kabsy excell is in the areas of freestyle and freedom of expression. Too much structure and technique can cause a reduction in a players natural ability. Players are best when their natural skills can be enhanced.

what is the price of ASA training?

Thanks for the response. We are just starting out in the rep scene and I can definitely see where it has its limitations even if the coach is great (as is the case with us). I thought there would be more technique work but there seems to be a lot more emphasis on structure and tactics which is fine for the guys that have been in the system for a couple of years but the new kids out of club football struggle a little bit. ASA's a little bit far from us but I think we have a half decent futsal academy up here that I'll look at in the offseason.

Kabs has been at ASA for around 6 years.

What ASA delivers is a lot of different skills and real time gameplay training scenarios to apply those skills. More than anything it's a pool of very talented players that share their skills and use them in gameplay.

Freestyle skills are encouraged instead of players being stoically drilled. Players are not restricted in any way in their thinking or how to apply those skills.

I guess that's the best way to describe it. It's open source football. Instead of zig hiel you vill pass de ball like dis etc etc...Everyone has their own style and players become exposed to many different styles. The coaches are asian, french, scottish, croatian, canadian, brasilian, ghana, greek, etc so players get a lot of differing culture football training. In the end players use what suits them best.

Out of interest Aussie how long was he at ASA and what did he get there that he felt he wasn't getting at his normal rep/club training.

Your players could be suffering the same problem as the other regional areas
(lack of intensity)
due to small player pool and frequent playing of the same teams.
It is a big ask for players to go to a trial against players who have been playing at a much higher intensity and for them to perform at their best.



Edited by krones3: 27/6/2012 06:56:33 PM

Great result again for ASA.=d>

It seems a short period of time for ASA to have secured contacts for two EPL youth players and an A League contract.

In this state our NTC program has been operating for about 5 years for both genders. This generous taxpayer funded program has produced no professional contracts for any local players in that period. One controversial point is that once in a NTC program, players are not allowed to play for their clubs or schools. In cricket and hockey, where Tasmania produces a number of full internationals, players in elite progams still train with their clubs as well.

Jeremy Walker had to go to Melbourne and play in local leagues to secure his contract with Heart.

One of our NTC coaches is assistant national under 20 coach. It would be interesting if our two NTC coaches swapped places with Tony Basha and the ASA coach operated the local NTC program? Would this state secure more pro contracts?










Edited by Decentric: 27/6/2012 06:51:44 PM