Mate I don't doubt they are similar, but obviously you'd be best off picking the brains of some other field-hockey peep

even if we as i stated earlier BA81 we can pic his brains and in my mind hockey and footaball is very similar don't you think.

Fat chance given he's publicly declared his personal dislike of football in the past. Although, if the FFA wave a big-enough paycheque at him...

rick charlesworth is a genius and australian too comment on that ?

its fantastic how many people have had a say, all i want is to play the aussie way and with a bit of flair and we will hold our own with any one just watch the kookaburras play fantastic with the future aussie teams can well study.

you often fantasise about under age, dominant lesbians with an acute sex drive?

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Han Berger please employ Chips Rafferty/Judy Free and skeptic(if they are in fact different people) so as to give them something proactive to do instead of bickering like lesbian schoolgirls in heat...

Edited by ba81: 18/1/2012 02:56:29 PM

Thats quality, finally someone making some sense to this!

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well said.=d> =d> =d>

Mmm Ok so we are not there yet.....but there is no doubt as a footballing nation we have moved forward. Could be be done better? probably are we better than we used to be - yes.... so perhaps we are doing something right and it needs tuning.

I am involved at grassroots level, and considering all the roadblock and fights this sport has to overcome guys were are not doing too bad and I honestly think getting better in 2019 the fruits of the small sided football introduction will enter the fray as 17 year olds - then we can judge. Personally I see a marked improvement of our kids technically and the quantity of technically improved kids.

We had no plan and by defintion you cant get to where you want to go without a plan - no we have a plan (ok can be improved) but its a plan and is being monitored and improved.....guys lets support this game and add positives....not negatives....MAKE A DIFFERENCE LOCALLY before knocking the system.

Tell them in a forum when myself and others have done so personally? Forums are like surface mail of the past. Easily ignored.

When lip service is the intent, bollocks, rhetoric and excuses is all you will hear.

skeptik
you could start a thread and tell them what is needed.
The read this forum every day. all of them do.
They say they don't but they do.

No, it's simply a shameful effort to deceive.

Edited by judy free: 3/1/2012 04:09:06 PM

FFA have an ivory tower mentality. They are right jack so everything is wonderful from the view of their window. Some of our greatest Australian champions in many sports have come from regional areas. Shame the FFA is too stupid to harness the rough gems and put a polish on them. But this doesn't suit their agenda. :shock:

The afl and nrl have been promoting their games to indigenous communities for generations and the games are now ingrained in their sporting culture to the degree football is in European immigrant culture.

Since the first 'Annual' National Indigenous Football Festival was funded by the ffa in 2009, (to correlate with the WC bid)funding for the second 'festival' in 2011 (after the bid was lost, 2010 was cancelled because of a said, lack of organisational time)was passed on to the NT government, which will be funding it ($225k over three years) in Alice Springs for 3 years. FFA funding has, apparently, dried up.

The participants in the 2011 festival in Alice were chosen through the government, 'no school no sport' programme, with a single school in each region or capital city supplying the players. All others were excluded from consideration for participation.

No trials, no recommendations, no open selection and no required previous experience in the game. Only those at a single school per region or city and those within that school with the highest level of attendance were considered.

It was a shortened, non competitive event with no match scores recorded and no match winners. A social occasion for the participants, mostly whom had not played the game previously. Our local indigenous regional organiser was extremely disappointed in the event and in the fact the kids regularly playing the game and particularly those showing exception ability in their respective towns and comps, weren't able to be considered.

That's the sum of the 'annual' festival and the limit of football promotion and development aimed at indigenous players. The rhetoric we hear is very different to what is happening on the ground. Chalk and cheese.

Now, if they did have the funding and were serious,(I'd not like to hang by my testicles waiting) they'd then need to get rid of the attitude loaned from bureaucracies that the non Aboriginal establishment knows what's best for the aboriginal community, best understands their culture, how to communicate and all without the need to earn their trust. Just because we always know best.

And that means putting people on the ground whom can do what they cannot, while listening to and accepting their advice. That's what the nrl and afl have been doing for decades. But, it's all wishful thinking and i also believe in Santa Clause. So, don't hold your breath.

Isn't bathurst street...And yeah nice job that banner. Tells a story read rtl of what one of the lads has achieved. Park footy > ASA training > Man City.

Common admit it you love it :d

I built that website completely from scratch...Best looking football website around :p

Still more work to come yet...

P.S. I don't write the content...Just put up what is given. I built and do the technical work. Still needs a clean up of grammar etc.

Edited by Aussiesrus: 3/1/2012 02:45:51 PM

ROTFLMFAO

The banner of Basher at Bathurst Street Greystanes photoshopped into a big league (EPL?) game.

FMD, does the bloke have no shame whatsoever? :lol: :lol:

Simple the quality is rubbish. CCM and Roar are the only two teams I would pay to watch and I don't live in their areas. I was at a hotel sometime back and they had foxtel and I watched Gold Coast V Nth Q....The quality was so bad I had to turn it off.

Plenty of untapped talent in the bush and remote areas. The indigenous community especially. AFL and NRL realised the potential and have invested in these areas. FFA needs to do the same.

I played against the Northern Territory state side some 35 years ago and they smacked us 3-1. If given the resources and interest from FFA the indigenous community would be a force in NT football and competitive with any other state.

You read my comments incorrectly, krones. I'm in a region remote from any regional centre and any involvement in elite sport means enormous travel and expense, making it improbable if not impossible. So, no, being entitled to opportunity means little and has no relevance when a kid would need to move away from home and parents to gain it.

In the bush, one's priorities are very different by necessity and sport is but a vehicle for enjoyment and community socialising. Regardless of what system is in place it won't change a thing for us and others in a similar situation.

We do have enormous young talent in all sport, particularly within the indigenous communities, but that talent will remain where it is until the priorities of life mean moving away from sport or the lucky one's move to regional centres for a university education.

skeptic

Wow

I have a completely different take on the regional situation.
First of all any information I can get about what is going on in major cities at grass roots level I am happy to get it,

So thanks decentric and others for the info.

Secondly our technical director is Dutch and has been proactive in getting into regional areas and observing\lifting the standard of skills. Like most Dutch ppl he has been very willing to give his opinions albeit tempered so as not to hurt the sensitivity of his Australian audiences.

So thanks to Peter de Roo

Thirdly regional players pay the same fees as city players and therefore are entitled to have the same opportunity to if they are good enough have a shot at the top. There are a lot of talented players in regional Australia who are benefiting greatly from the system and curriculum.

So thanks to Hans Burger

Finally before the system was introduced we had non-football people hair care salesmen ie Paul Lonton running the show and it was nothing but a old boys club. I was very happy to see that replace with what we have today, dedicated football people backed up and supported by a system dedicated to producing quality players.
Thanks to all of them.

Whilst there is still a lot of work to be done and information to be shared I think we are on a good path. Mind you if i lived in NSW i may not feel so positive.

I don't need a silly old bugger to tell me what i need to do, Cyril, but i will try not to divert the attention you work so hard to gain.

Excellent Sceptic. We both want kids to enjoy the game. We have that in common.:)



I've answered the question about Dutch heritage in a previous post or thread.:) I have English heritage and have many relatives living there.


If you are not interested in discussing facets of the National Curriculum, I'm not sure why you bother visiting this thread?

Edited by Decentric: 2/1/2012 11:59:18 PM

You realise this is your regular fall back defence? ](*,)



Oh, so only his majesty has intelligence, experience and general knowledge and others require Wikipedia? I'm sorry of you don't like being pulled up for lies, bullshite and big noting of yourself, fella, because you damn well need to be.




Because I've no need to gain attention as you appear to require whilst big noting yourself with a pretence of knowledge. Copy/paste after copy paste after fucking copy/paste, talking to no one but yourself. Look at me, look at me. Attention seeking till the cows come home.



Where i come from (which you would know if you were interested in anything other than gaining personal attention) the ffa, berger, the NC and anything else to do with the game is unheard of. They, we or I don't give a rats arse as were are too busy trying to have the game survive in a region very remote from the cities and regional centres and too busy with the important things in life. In far west nsw, they, we or I don't live, breath, eat, sleep and fart for the game like you appear to do.

The kids here just want to enjoy a kick around, as do the seniors. We don't need arseholes like you or berger telling us we have to do this and that because it's good for player development, because we don't give a shite about about player development. We just want to enjoy the fucking game and nothing more.

How hard do you think it is to get kids from my region involved in the game instead of RL and RU, the most popular regional sports, when you silly city nerds are doing their best to take the enjoyment, the community spirit and the very reason for community sport, out of the game? For what, development of players? And, sunshine, you most certainly are a silly old nerd to top all silly old bloody nerds.

Do i sound cranky? Well, speak your self promoting bullshit and that of your Dutch bum-boys to our face, like you do in here, you'd be laughed at by the locals before getting your arse kicked hard and sent packing. Quick smart.


BTW, again you failed to answer a question. Are you of Dutch heritage?

Nope. But keep guessing...

Aussiesrus, I'm sure you'd agree that we needed a European based methodology compared to the ad hoc system we had before?


Nepotism and cronyism can be rife in many sports.

One former state youth football coach told me had four people, including himself, to select teams objectively and fairly. This was because of the parental backlash and to convince himself he had been fair and objective.

A few other state coaches have been renowned for having favourites.


I am shocked to hear you don't attend live A League games at all!!!!! Given you are passionate about the sport, how can you choose to avoid the easy and most enjoyable part?

I admit a number of elite/rep coaches don't view much football much as a spectator, preferring other sports.

I for one have been pleased at the improvement in the A League or national game in the last few seasons.

Is the NSWPL the top tier and the NSWSL the second tier?

Interesting scenario you describe about how your mates and yourself were overlooked for rep sides, but performed well in matches against the teams you weren't selected before.

I've seen it occur here too.

I'm sure it occurs all round the globe.

A state FFA TD told us that for a Vicorian state team in 2006, they had 400 triallists. So the state coaches made them do KPIs, like running speed, how high they could jump, etc, to get a preliminary list of candidates for a state team.:lol:

It would be hilarious if it wasn't true. This was supposed to have occurred in about 2006.

The KNVB coaches said there was no prescriptive methodology that a coach should adopt and that they weren't presenting a system beyond reproach.

However, they were telling us as a developing football nation. We all knew that all stakeholders, certainly ones in the FFA system, in Australia looked up to them.

Also, I wonder if some Dutch coaches in Australia are more prescriptive and controlling than they would be in, say Germany or France?

Lol

A number of people over a number of threads.

I'm not going to embarrass them, and certainly not without their permission, but you probably aren't aware of all of their backgrounds or
children's backgrounds.


A number of people you've lectured haven't actually disclosed all their personal details to you.