Any news on the 2012 Hellenic cup?
Looks to be much stronger this year with thier only being 4 groups of four
South Melbourne, Oakliegh, Heidelberg, Northcote, Bentliegh, Port Melbourne, Western Suburbs, Box hill, Kingston all confirmed entries as far as i know, with some very strong teams in Malvern and South sprinvale having to qualify.
And with the prize being 10 grand most clubs should be playing strong teams.

Draw is out, links have been posted on soccer-forum. Should be interesting to see if con-current pre-seasons will mean that the state league side will do better than usual. Half the comp is at Kingston, the other half at Western Suburbs.

Could you please post those links up on this board as i can;t seem to register for soccer forums

Cheers thanks mate

South Springvale and Malvern should easily qualify

Great strategy to diversify by playing a cup which selects teams based on ethnicity, just what the game at that level needs. It really is disappointing.

HAHAHAHA You sir are an idiot, can people really be that stupid?

These clubs that have been treated like shit by the FFA, ignored by the media kicked out of the league, and you begrudge them playing a small tournament that has been running for years, whats it to you what these clubs do. FUCK OFF YOU WANKER

Edited by FortressBelmore: 9/1/2012 07:50:20 PM

What he said, just in a more polite and measured way.

So what if a bunch of community clubs who have been playing a small tourney like this for years choose to do so again?

LOL another idiot who doesn't know what his talking about.

Here's a fixture/table setup for the senior men's side of the comp.

http://www.socceraust.co.uk/2012/VIC/Hellenic/fixtures.html

Cheers thanks man

Hey quick question Blackmissionary, is that Richmond as in the VPL Richmond, if so why do they have to qualify, and thier not at all a Greek Club

I've emailed the HC committee that very same question, but they never got back to me, so I don't know. From what someone is saying on soccer-forum, it may be some old boys from the old East Richmond - which would be surprising to me, as they dissolved years ago. As for status of non-Greek clubs participating, well Beaumaris played last year, which still has me stumped. They're far more lenient in that regard in the women's comp.

What's it to you if they play in the tournament?!

It's a nice tradition that has been going on for many years.

On the websites it seems to be thier symbol, it would be great for the competetion if they played.

Then you wouldn't be a fan of the Chinese League I take it?

Edited by Arthur: 10/1/2012 07:56:07 PM

Pretty sure that's a mistake.

Didn't the Timor Cup Carnival also just finish in Darwin?

We also just had the Horn of Africa tournament here not long ago Skeptic.

I wasn't aware and after looking it up found that Perth also had a similar african nations cup.

This can't continue because..... well......because.....um, it's just wrong because i said so. And that means i'm just going to have to complain to......to.....errrrr.....to.......well, i'll find someone to complain to. Damnit, is anyone listening to me?

The annual Aus-Croatian football tournament is the longest running football comp in Australia, I believe. Disgraceful!! Get rid of it ASAP and ban Melbourne Knights and Sydney United from Australian football for daring to participate!!

while were on the topic, does that mean we must errr disband the Maco Cup which is this year taking place in the Gong starting 28 Jan and involving clubs from along the eastern seaboard including our club, Bankstown, Hunter and Illawarra PL clubs, our Vic SL and division 2 clubs, and possibly our WA affiliate?

Lets not get off topic here

I've seen your posts in the past i wouldn't go calling people stupid. The FFA neglect claim always comes from a sense of unwarranted entitlement not a logical argument, for example it's not the FFA’s role to promote local clubs.

The issue concerns me because we have a mass of junior players which isn't being converted into senior players like it is in cricket for instance and it's some of those senior players that trickle onto spectator supporting which results in growth of the game.



Why do you think highlighting community changes the argument? The issue is whether it is desirable for state level clubs to be playing in a cup that selects its participants based on ethnicity, when some of those participants are struggling with mono-ethnicity both in their make up and perception. We know that discourages people from embracing the game so why do it?


It's an issue for me because i'd like to see the game grow and mono-ethnicity at state level is one of the main things that holds the game back from growing. A tradition may not be worth continuing if it damages the game.


Instead of pretending to be clever maybe next time you complain about SM being regarded as ethnic and being denied a-league entry due to not appealing to enough people you can make a mental note of this topic.

I'd also add that those other cups are unnecessary as well. African's are no longer considered desirable refugees by the immigration department, yet we have all African amateur teams popping up now instead of integrating with existing teams, not dividing teams by any race. At uni level both here and over in the US it was mandatory to have at least 2 international students in sports teams and that was in different sports. Everyone else gets it, it's not rocket science, it’s only those with pre-existing loyalties like yourself that are scared of change.

rofl.


Arthur, Benjamin, and kapow! walk into a Croatian club. kapow! says, "Now lads, I don't want you playing in the upcoming Dubrovnik Meats Memorial Cup tournament against Melbourne Knights, because you're a Croatian club and they're a Croatian club and by playing in this tournament you're offending the rest of Australia."

Arthur and Benjamin nervously exit through a side door to play some bocce, and next Friday night nobody seems to notice the lamb on a spit tastes slightly different than usual...




Seriously man, these clubs play all other clubs in their league throughout the course of the season - what's the harm in participating in some historical tournaments that double as a meetup for their migrant / expat community?

Is your problem that they are playing soccer, or do you want all Macedonian, Greek, Croat, British, etc social clubs dissolved as well?

I want to know Kapow, why do those clubs in the Victorian state leagues, who are categorised as 'mainstream' or 'non-ethnic', do worse when it comes to senior football, in terms of spectator numbers, sponsorships and results? Surely with their inclusive nature and often times large junior bases, they should be close to overtaking their ethnic counterparts?

Because at the end of the day, the best players want to play for the best and biggest clubs, which at the mom,ent are the ethnic clubs.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Australia is poorer as a country for having fuckwits like this kapow muppet in it, could you ever wish to hear more of a bunch of disgraceful rambling anywhere else

Edited by FortressBelmore: 12/1/2012 11:06:50 PM

becoz of dem efniks