Sorry, I misread.

I'm not sure how I'm implying that only Murdoch would benefit from this endorsement.

love it

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:lol: country of islam. Who nominated this dumb bitch?

fair enough

what of the fact that the ALP have a candidate in QLD already endorsed and Rudd waltzes along and bags arch enemy beattie in his place.......then Destyari....the UK ALP dude arriving it's all so cloak and dagger , desperation stakes........

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-09/vote-compass-data-results-important-issues/4872896

Of all age groups, old people value the economy highest and environment least.
Of all ideologies, right wingers value the economy highest and environment least.

Selfish fuckers.

I think it was a good move. You'd be applauding it if the Libs had thought of bringing in a proven and popular MP to do battle for a marginal seat.

Is there a correlation between one and the other though? :-k

Funny you mention that. Yes, older people tend to vote conservative (if that's what you meant)

I'd like to see that correlation demonstrated.

Rudd revival stalls as he fails to boost votes for Labor in Queensland, poll reveals

STEVEN SCOTT NATIONAL POLITICAL EDITOR THE COURIER-MAIL AUGUST 10, 2013 12:00AM

Labor in strife as Rudd revival stalls

So much for a whole new life

THE Ruddmentum has stalled in Queensland.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has failed to deliver his promised boost in votes for Labor in his home state after the first week of the election campaign.

The first published poll of Queensland voters since the election was called reveals Labor's vote is stuck at the same level as 2010.

In a blow to Labor's hopes of winning on the back of a Queensland-led recovery, The Courier-Mail/Galaxy poll suggests the Government will struggle to pick up any extra seats.

Despite findings in the last Galaxy poll in February that Mr Rudd could boost Labor's support base to 47 per cent in Queensland if he returned to the leadership, the reality has been much less impressive.

The new poll found the party's primary vote was 34 per cent - roughly in line with its result in the last election.

This would see Labor's two- party preferred vote in Queensland stuck at 44 per cent, based on preference flows from the last election and would see it just hold its current eight seats in the state.

Labor is hoping to pick up several marginal LNP-held seats in Queensland to offset likely losses in New South Wales and other states.

But the findings raise questions about Mr Rudd's supposed star power in his home state that was the party's only hope of winning the election.

"If Queensland is going to be the best state for the ALP, then this is not a very good result," Galaxy chief David Briggs said.

In a glimmer of hope for Labor, Mr Rudd is still seen as having a better understanding of Queensland than his opponent Tony Abbott.

Just over 50 per cent of respondents said Mr Rudd had a good or very good understanding of issues that affect Queensland, compared with 36 per cent who said the same about Mr Abbott.

A quarter of respondents said Mr Rudd had a poor or very poor understanding of the state, with 29 per cent saying the same about Mr Abbott.

But only 10 per cent of those polled said they were more likely to vote for Mr Rudd because he was a Queenslander.

The two leaders will go head to head in the first televised debate of the campaign tomorrow night.

Mr Rudd has tried to appeal for sympathy, declaring: "We entered this race as the underdogs. We are still underdogs."

Many people seem to agree with Mr Rudd's assessment.

Only 35 per cent of those polled said they believed Labor would win but Mr Rudd has at least delivered some hope to Labor supporters, with 65 per cent of supporters saying he would form government. The poll of 800 Queensland voters was conducted on the evenings of August 7 and 8.

It came after both leaders focused on the state, with Mr Rudd and his opponent Tony Abbott each making two visits to Brisbane.

Internal Labor polling found the surprise entrance of former premier Peter Beattie into the race for the marginal LNP-held seat of Forde could give Labor a stronger chance of picking up the seat.

The economy dominated the political debate over the past week after Labor was handed a boost from a historic interest rate cut just after the election campaign began.

Mr Rudd launched a scare campaign on the cost of living, warning Mr Abbott would increase the GST and would not reveal his full budget plans.

Mr Abbott yesterday backed down on a plan not to commit to a date for returning the budget to surplus, even though he said he did not trust Treasury's numbers.

"The budget bottom line will be there for everyone to see," Mr Abbott said.

As both sides of politics step up their negotiations over preferences with minor parties, the poll contains a warning for Labor not to rely on a boost from the Greens.

The slide in the Greens' vote helped result in a slightly lower two-party preferred vote for Labor of 44 per cent compared with the 44.9 per cent it received at the 2010 election. Voters were evenly split over whether there should be a deal with crossbenchers if there were a hung parliament.


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/rudd-revival-stalls-as-he-fails-to-boost-votes-for-labor-in-queensland-poll-reveals/story-fnihsrf2-1226694536247

Talk about bias reporting, Labour have been nowhere near their 2010 vote since 2010, especially in Queensland.

Under Gillard they were talking about maybe retaining one seat, Rudd's, and now their talking about status quo.

no i don't think i would......it's short term policy....two years ago Beattie was asked whether he would come back and gave an emphatic no.....it's desperate measures and let's face it the ALP need to rejuvenate and regrow and get back to their old values and policies....

Evidence / proof???

Seems to be a good day for the Coalition.

http://www.thepaperboy.com/australia/front-pages.cfm

Edited by imonfourfourtwo: 10/8/2013 08:53:45 AM

It may be cohort effects but:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/higher/modern/uk_gov_politics/elect_vote/revision/2/
Those under 35 tend to vote Labour and the Conservative vote increases with age.
http://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/2613/How-Britain-Voted-in-2010.aspx?view=wide

And -
http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/3559764?uid=3737536&uid=2460338175&uid=2460337935&uid=2&uid=4&uid=83&uid=63&sid=21102540327987

Voting intentions by age in Australian poll taken this year
http://theaustralian.newspaperdirect.com/epaper/iphone/homepage.aspx#_article549262c8-682a-42ad-9395-d4e7b26c9b65

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One Nation. Nuff said

Edited by zimbos_05: 10/8/2013 10:38:36 AM

Edited by zimbos_05: 10/8/2013 10:38:49 AM

It's really interesting just listening to people around me with their opinions on this whole election. So when Rudd booted Gillard, basically everyone I knew be like "zomg it's an embarrassment, how would this look to the rest of the world, I don't want to be led by the most indecisive people in the country, I'm 100% voting Liberal to have consistency, Labour is a disgrace and has only sent our country backwards and everyone around town is losing jobs."

Now, that mentality has somewhat died off. I've had a few "intelligent" conversations with people who are "genuinely confused over who to vote for" and after about 20 mins of talking I brought up the embarrassment of changing leaders, and it's as if they forgot that point. Short memories are short, innit.

By the way, I'm fxxxing sick of most peoples views on how this voting works. I know a HEAP of women that "won't vote for Abbott because he looks creepy - I mean have you seen that gollum picture?". FFS firstly how a person looks is discrimination, secondly I don't recall ever seeing the likes of John Howard, Julia Gillard, Kevin Rudd, Tony Abbott, etc on my voting sheet. So many people have these "thought-out" views, but when I ask them who their local MP is they have NFI, and openly admit they don't even know their local guys name. All that anyone can tell me is that "Newcastle has been labour forever" and most of the people I'm talking to are apart of Charlton and not even in the Newcastle sector!

It's simple for me - Labour seems to have a vendetta against the mining industry (see that whole "New Way" ad and just general things I've read/heard). They don't get my vote.

I agree with you are saying here. And while I may not vote for the same party as you this election, I agree it is astonishing to see how people know so little about politics and the electoral process. With such a climate, it makes it even more extraordinary that an independent in Indi may very well take out a member of the shadow cabinet, only a well informed electorate could do that.

care to explain?????

I actually don't know what I said that. I was damn tired when I typed and for some reason I just felt the need to put your name.

let me edit.

I wonder if that woman has ever wondered why Getaway has never been to the country of Islam.

Peter Beattie has been mate the man to do that in Queensland. There's nothing wrong with that. Besides, they'd be foolish not to try and capitalise on the damage that Campbell Newman is doing for the LNP in QLD.

Beattie had a very good interview on 7:30 with Leigh Sales asking him these exact questions. He held up well to the scrutiny and explained his decision just fine.

Leigh Sales eh? But isn't she Labour biased according to batfink?

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Edited by afromanGT: 10/8/2013 12:06:04 PM

I would really appreciate it if you could explain this line of thinking to me in greater detail.

How are they not paying this mining tax? I mean...how fucking big are these loopholes?

Pretty fucking big.

So instead of taxing the mining companies for shipping Australian resources and profits overseas we're giving them free money. Nice one, government.