you are unqualified alright.....;) :-"

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

-PB

how's your day going chester?????

glorious weather here in god's country, after those winds last night and a 4 hours power outage

Interesting to see the Courier running a piece of Katter, can see him coming quite the power broker again thanks to his seat if we head towards hung status again.

Can see KAP doing well in State level politics in the future too if they hang around that long.

Would love to see his plans for a State Bank come to fruition.

-PB

So is no one reading Fairfax's Labor propaganda?

I still don't get what people were getting upset about. The guy wrote notes...so what? If it made him look like less of a twat then good on him.

To be fair, he did state 'printed' news :lol: The thing is, you can skip over articles that don't quite grab your attention without glancing at the content in the online publication, but when you have a physical print of the newspaper you do have to actually look at it in one way or another. And the DT didn't run with "Your chance to kick this guy out" as the headline on their online publication.

Exactly.

If anything it shows that he has debating skills.

If it's that big of a deal, let Abbott have all the notes he wants and don't let Ruddy have any, see if the worm changes.

-PB

Abbott could have all the notes in the world and he'd still find a way to fit his size ten foot in his size two mouth.

the point here is penny wong and the government are banging on about the oppositions economic plans.......but what are their plans to reduce the deficit?????

the deficit is blowing out and looks to be out of control.....Given the government have got the budget and the forecasts wrong for the past 6 years, why should anyone trust them or take them seriously?????

the proof is in the baking....and they have definitely burnt the books


Edited by batfink: 13/8/2013 03:11:53 PM

Abbott has run a pretty flawless campaign to date. Rudd, with all his slickness and spin doctors, is looking tired and desperate already.

Meanwhile you've got a Liberal Party claiming that they will cut company and income tax, won't increase the GST and attacking the APL's plan to increase cigarette taxes despite acknowledging that the government needs to increase tax revenue if it's to manage this alleged deficit. Now, I'm no mathematical genius but it would seem that these stances are all counter-productive to each other.

So unless they plan to cut funding to the already under-funded infrastructure, Education and medical systems which would inevitably damage the economy significantly they're telling lies upon lies upon lies.

You're making too much sense for finky to comprehend :lol:

you didn't answer the question......#-o

Dr Cox just popped into my head.
"Does your head hurt yet? Because it damn well should. Here's half an ibuprofen, it's the perfect amount for your pea-sized brain. Uh-uh, don't take it yet. I'm going to walk away first to save you the embarrassment."

Well let me answer that question with another question:
If the Liberal party can't even work out the basics of mathematics, why should we trust THEM????

i take your inability to supply an answer to a question as an admission of defeat......

Edited by batfink: 13/8/2013 03:38:01 PM

Likewise

Well not really i posed a perfectly realistic question and to date no one has supplied and answer.....

obviously it's to hard to answer....OR....the answer is not to your liking

All the economic debate on debt and deficit really baffles me...

Once you accept that the government has only fringe impact on the productivity of the country (yes spending money on education, reducing restrictions on business, managing trade relations with other countries, etc. matter but they don't really govern the actual economic performance of the country) it's quite simple...

When the economy is good, you pay off your debt and invest the extra money in infrastructure, education and future funds. This is what the Howard government did.

When the economy is bad, you spend government funds to stimulate it and keep productivity ticking over. In return you get infrastructure and education. This is what the Rudd government did.


The LNP is right to say that the economic management of the Howard government helped shield us from the GFC..... but Rudd *had* to spend that money for it to have that effect! The money was put away by John Howard for a rainy day... when that rainy day came, Rudd spent it.

The economy is jobs and productivity, not money in government coffers!!! If the country is producing, and unemployment is low, and our debt is not out of control relative to GDP (which it's NOT) what's the problem?! Economy managed.

Labour have been in charge for 6 years and what have they really done? They have just back stabbed each other. The members in that party can't trust each other so why should the public trust them?

Same applies to you champ. I've demonstrated that the Liberal party is just as bad, if not worse and your counter is "but you didn't answer my question".

I'd rather have a government that struggles with its economic forecasting than a government that can't do basic addition.

one small problem here....this is incorrect

*Labor*

Staving off the effects of the GFC and keeping the GDP in positive growth (unlike the USA, UK and other first world nations) is a fair achievement considering they've been in government during the worst global economy for 20 years.

sry m8

It's REGULAR STRENGTH TYLENOL. Here's what you do: get her to open her mouth, take a handful and throw it at her. Whatever sticks, that's the correct dosage.

I was looking for a video of what I quoted and stumbled across that quote with German overdub :lol:

In 2007 Rudd stated we needed to be a country that made things

In 2013 Rudd stated we needed to be a country that made things

After 6 years of hundreds of job loses and millions in bailouts is the auto industries future any clearer ?

Not sure of the rules of engagement in this thread but it's fair to say that neither party has the capacity to really elevate the level of debate or decorum in parliament or the vision and foresight to really inspire the electorate of a unified nation all pushing in the same direction...

It's easier to just say my opposite number is deluded (or some other derisory term) and that we are the only ones that can really make the difference you want.

Sound bites and slogans for PM!

Well... the government can spend money, which stimulates the economy. But it can't stimulate international demand for resources. It can't insist that Australians buy locally produced goods (well not under our version of democracy anyway). It can't force foreign investment to flood into Australia. And it can't decide for big business how much of their profits should be re-invested.


The government is really only a support function.



Someone who knows more than me puts it more eloquently here.