You would expect a Parliament full of lawyers (on both sides) to understand complex financial instruments?

Conroy had the same issue with the NBN/Telco stuff, until he hired an expert to help advise/teach/help him understand thing and his performance got much better.

OK, scratch that, ANY advertising. Children should be able to watch television without being exposed to advertising which results in them pressuring their parents to buy products.

I don't think it's like a Jackie Chan movie where Jackie Chan takes out thousands of bad guys by doing round house kicks. You have to be a little more realistic. There's only so many security staff, cooks, bag handlers and marketing staff to protect the PM at any one time, if they are outnumbers by thousands they stand no chance. The principle is the PM nor his staff should be exposed to physical violent confrontation by thousands of angry uni students, if they want to have their message heard they need to learn how to control their emotions and protest peacefully.

Wow...what a pity that he actively pissed them off by raising their school fees significantly and can't face up to the consequences of doing that. What a maggot. What a scumbag. Wasn't his government meant to be "taking responsibility"? But when HE makes a decision which upsets people he runs away from it. What a joke. What a liar.

:lol: :lol:

No offence...

Haven't got any kids yet, huh?

Kids are bombarded with advertising messages continually - online as well as on TV. It's up to us parents to teach them they can't have all they ask for, not to block them from reality. That's just lazy parenting.

There are already ample laws about what is allowed to be advertised to kids and what isn't. They may or may not need tightening, but kids end up learning pretty quickly that they can't have something just because it's advertised on TV or online. They learn they can't have all they ask for, but they also learn to ask, to negotiate and to temper expectations, but it's up to us parents to guide them through experience, not through redefining reality.

Here's an underused word in parenting:

"No".

Teaching kids they can't have everything they want is fine and I agree with that, but having just ONE medium that doesn't have constant advertising bombarding them isn't too much to ask for. Walk down the street? ADS. Turn on the radio? ADS. Internet? ADS.

I'd dispute the quality of them. Many of the kid shows on commercial networks are toy ads first and the show is a secondary thought. The documentaries also aren't in the same league and it's not that the commercial stations can't buy them, ABC would pay very little for them so they would be easily outbidded for the rights.

I wonder how much cheaper that would actually be...

I think it is useful (news service and all) but I can understand that you don't.

why dont you pay for content then you wont get bombarded with ads
the problem is you want everything for free

typical entitlement attitude of the champagne socialist

He didn't raise their fees at all, they will pay exactly the same for their degree as they would have under Labor. It's OK for people be upset with a government decision and to call him scumbag, maggot etc (you probably made him cry now :( ) but to confront it with violence and abuse is unacceptable. You can try and spin it as the PM running away all you want but I reckon he has more important things to do with his time than being abused, shoved and spat at.

BTW I think most of the rage about the uncapping of uni fees is confected. The reason it upsets people is because it's more like the American system and less like the ideal Cuban or North Korean systems, and that upsets people because America is bad and everything America does is bad. The truth is by deregulating universities, all students, both poor and rich can look forward to higher standards of education and better learning facilities. Sure they will have to pay more for their degrees (only if they get a job) but it's an investment in their future and uncaps their potential.

How many three year olds do you know that can pay for the content they get on television?

how many three year olds do you know that can pay for a television?

So it's ok to call him a scumbag and maggot but I can't abuse him? Uh...wanna sort out your argument before we continue? He's meant to be the LEADER OF THE COUNTRY, if his decisions and actions have upset people then he should stand up and be accountable for that. Especially after all his talk about the government "taking responsibility" and the "adutls being back in charge". Adults don't run away.

Yeah, you're right, it's not a big deal because they'll only have to pay more for their degrees if they get a job and we all know that the way the country is going that won't be happening.

I'm genuinely interested if you would say the same thing if it were Bill Shorten going into a hostile rightie crowd :lol:

I'm guessing not and I'm sure there would be words like "coward" and the such being thrown around :lol:

Dat programming :lol:

-PB

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lol at the burn of these fanatics

Good lord you are an idiot :lol: . They are just a bunch of annoying fucks who shout things that 98 percent of uni student couldn't care less about. Most are there just to have the extra curricular activity on there resume.

Way to miss the point.

So what you're trying to say is that the family who can't afford to buy the advertised products that the child decides it needs should instead spend the same money they don't have on paid content to cut down the number of ads which the child is still exposed to anyway.

Do you even logic?? Or is every facet of your life completely clueless?

But it's not free :lol:

Tax payers pay for it :lol:

CHECKMATE CRACKERJACK!

-PB

Yes folks, Ricecrackers is such an arrogant fuckwit he just applauded his own 'burn'.

as i've stated numerous times, you're mentally ill
where did you get all of that from?

personally i think no television at all would be best for a child's upbringing, but i digress

where did i suggest that the ABC is free? its not even even ad free. its the worst of both worlds.
if you want ad free content, then pay for it yourself. dont expect someone else to via the collective.

Aight riceburner, time to leave this thread and head back over to the vaccines one where you can go off tangent there.

Back on topic; can see Tone is gonna use this as fuel to throw on the "rowdy socialist" fire.

"Fear for my safety. Violent supporters. RIOTS!" etc etc etc, can write the headlines now, just like a Sockah outbreak.

Can see through this easier than you can see through his shuffling to get the states to up the GST for him :lol:

-PB

Well Afro, abuse can take many forms other than petty insults like 'Maggot' and 'scumbag'. Physical abuse is just one example. Mob language abuse should't also be tolerated, that's a bit different from calling him 'maggot' on 442.

Being the leader of the country, it's his job to run the country. Inevitably when running the country you are not going to please everybody, because people are different and have different opinions on things. If you are consistent in your reasoning, given the widespread public opposition and anger to the carbon tax, Labor should "stand up and be accountable for that" right? But they dug their heels in , and was their right, and the country had its say at the 2013 election. In 2016 they will have their say again whether they think Tony should be held accountable but in the meantime his job is to run the country according to their mandate (repealing carbon tax, reducing deficit etc) not tailoring policies to win popularity contests.

you attributed a false claim to me, i called you out on it and now you want me to leave the thread
GTFO. who do you think you are?

Edited by ricecrackers: 21/5/2014 01:09:20 PM

It is actually sort of depressing that the leader of our country is to much of a puss to face up to a one of the smallest minorities in the country. They are pretty much a running gag on most campuses. A few outspoken people that get in the way of me walking to class.

Speaks wonders for his character

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-PB

:roll: comprehension fail child

Shhhhhhhhhhh relax Ricey, there is no need ot be upset.



Off you go lad, here will even leave a link for you to make it easy.

http://au.fourfourtwo.com/forums/default.aspx?g=posts&t=93243&p=4

-PB

Our Minister for "women" when listening to an elderly caller this morning saying she's working as a phone sex operator to make ends meet.

Creepy as :lol:

Guy picks up in the clubs fo sho.

-PB

Good to see the PM smiling.