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notorganic wrote:
This speech was pretty sad and desperate, too.
It didn't matter he said, whatever he says is always going to be "sad and desperate" according to you. He could've said "we just cured AIDS and cancer" and you would've thought " that speech was pretty sad and desperate". It's not that that the was desperate and sad, it's just your strong dislike of Tony Abbott imparting your "sad and desperate" tag onto everything Tony Abbott says.
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Sweet. Shorten won't even have to get off his couch to become the next PM now.
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LFC.
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paladisious wrote:Sweet. Shorten won't even have to get off his couch to become the next PM now. from dumb to dumber :lol:
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rusty wrote:imonfourfourtwo wrote:, ending the mining super profits tax that was working exactly how it was supposed to Working exactly by raising $200 million when it was forecast to raise $6 billion? Ok.. By only raising fund on mining super profits...the forcasts were wrong but last I checked the mining boom is on a down turn, the only issue with the tax was it should have been put in place ten years ago not after it was too late.
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rusty
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imonfourfourtwo wrote:rusty wrote:imonfourfourtwo wrote:, ending the mining super profits tax that was working exactly how it was supposed to Working exactly by raising $200 million when it was forecast to raise $6 billion? Ok.. By only raising fund on mining super profits...the forcasts were wrong but last I checked the mining boom is on a down turn, the only issue with the tax was it should have been put in place ten years ago not after it was too late. So the mining super profits tax was working exactly how it was supposed to despite the forecasts being wrong and the mining boom on the down turn? wtf :?
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Joffa
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rusty wrote:mcjules wrote:notorganic wrote:Objectively the worst prime minister we have ever had. It honestly depresses me that anyone thought he'd be anything but this. It was plain as day. Cue the lazy "both sides are as bad as each other" argument. All political parties have their flaws but not all of them produce terrible governments like the current Federal and former Victorian and Queensland governments. Oh jeez what a coincidence that all "terrible governments" happen to be LNP ones. Political bias wouldn't be shining through right now would it? Or do all left wingers transcend the human condition and are completely objective and bias free? It's all perception how you judge a governments performance. There are people like Tanya Plibersek who gave the form ALP government a 9/10 for performance, this despite being tossed out office in a landslide and changing leaders twice. Naturally there are going to be those who are extremely critical of the ex governments performance, such as most of the general public. Perhaps the best way to judge a government is to see how they fare at the elections, such as the recent QLD election, where the LNP held onto around 41 seats. This despite going to the election on the platform of leasing assets, the same platform (retroactively) that saw Labor win only 7 seats at the 2012 election. 41 seats out of a possible 89 isn't such a bad result is it? They could've easily won the election had they not proposed to sell assets, easily. As for the current Federal government, while the performance has been generally poor, you also have to consider the role the senate has in shaping that performance, whereas the ex government pretty much had a free passage through the senate and sucked anyway. This advertorial is paid for by the save Tony Abbott fund. Approved by rusty Spoken by rusty Believed by absolutely no one
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Joffa wrote:This advertorial is paid for by the save Tony Abbott fund.
Approved by rusty
Spoken by rusty
Believed by absolutely no one You should probably just stick to your usual mantra of cutting and pasting articles, since you're pretty good at doing that.
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According to Abbott Victorians showed "absent-mindedness" in the last state election. This little insight into the Prime Minister’s inner thoughts surmised everything that is wrong with his attitude. One can't claim legitimacy as Prime Minister while also insulting the intelligence of Victorian voters; it shows a deep disregard for the people and democracy in general. Abbott's speech also highlighted his belief that the Liberals are born to rule and are above the democratic will of the people and public scrutiny. Additionally the Prime Minister undermined the great British institution of Westminster democracy by suggesting the people elect a PM and not a party, this is undeniably false and is in fact is a great safe guard in the system. For a person who seeks to raise appreciation of Australia's British institutions and heritage, his attitude smacks of hypocrisy. Abbott’s speech did nothing to save him, and he will only have himself to blame.
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Labor raise the debt and leave a mess for the Libs to fix. People than get mad at liberal and vote labor back in.
It's a cycle that will continue.
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rusty wrote:mcjules wrote:[quote=notorganic]Objectively the worst prime minister we have ever had. Perhaps the best way to judge a government is to see how they fare at the elections, such as the recent QLD election, where the LNP held onto around 41 seats. This despite going to the election on the platform of leasing assets, the same platform (retroactively) that saw Labor win only 7 seats at the 2012 election. 41 seats out of a possible 89 isn't such a bad result is it? They could've easily won the election had they not proposed to sell assets, easily. Considering the amount they started with it is a god awful result :lol: Honestly what was going through your mind when you typed this.
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I hardly would say they went to the last election with the platform to sell assets.
This was just a Campbell Newman surprise after he gained power.
Thats why they were punished.
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damonzzzz wrote:rusty wrote:mcjules wrote:[quote=notorganic]Objectively the worst prime minister we have ever had. Perhaps the best way to judge a government is to see how they fare at the elections, such as the recent QLD election, where the LNP held onto around 41 seats. This despite going to the election on the platform of leasing assets, the same platform (retroactively) that saw Labor win only 7 seats at the 2012 election. 41 seats out of a possible 89 isn't such a bad result is it? They could've easily won the election had they not proposed to sell assets, easily. Considering the amount they started with it is a god awful result :lol: Honestly what was going through your mind when you typed this. Because every single election needs to be judged on its own terms, not what happened three , nine or 100 years ago. Just because the LNP swept into power in 2012, doesn't mean those who cast votes for the LNP became over-night rusted on LNP fanatics. As with every landslide election there is going to be a natural swing back to centre such as what happened on Saturday. The result wasn't even all that fantastic, the polls were 50-50 even as far as a year ago. I'm pleased at least the LNP was at least willing to throw itself to the dogs in order to fund infrastructure that we crucially need. All Labor did was play defense, good on em, but now will have no infrastructure for three years and the only thing that will boom is debt.
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Glenn - A-league Mad wrote:I hardly would say they went to the last election with the platform to sell assets.
This was just a Campbell Newman surprise after he gained power.
Thats why they were punished. They took the asset sales to an election, they just didn't sell them under the noses of QLD'ers without a mandate.
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SlyGoat36 wrote:Labor raise the debt and leave a mess for the Libs to fix. People than get mad at liberal and vote labor back in.
It's a cycle that will continue. Libs are doing an awesome job of that federally :lol: Also can't believe this myth is still being parroted! Edited by mcjules: 2/2/2015 05:25:17 PM
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SlyGoat36 wrote:Labor raise the debt and leave a mess for the Libs to fix. People than get mad at liberal and vote labor back in.
It's a cycle that will continue. Yes Hawke and Keating left a terrible mess and let's blame Rudd for the Global Financial Crisis shall we?
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SlyGoat36 wrote:Labor raise the debt and leave a mess for the Libs to fix. People than get mad at liberal and vote labor back in.
It's a cycle that will continue. The problem is Libs need around three terms to fix the debt and budget. LNP have made no in roads in the current federal debt, and Labor have abandoned their Keynesian principles of running budget surpluses during cycles of economic growth. If Labor get back in there's a serious possibility debt could grow to as high as 80% of GDP, since they derive their fiscal health relative to countries like Greece, Italy and Ireland.
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mcjules wrote:SlyGoat36 wrote:Labor raise the debt and leave a mess for the Libs to fix. People than get mad at liberal and vote labor back in.
It's a cycle that will continue. Libs are doing an awesome job of that federally :lol: Also can't believe this myth is still being parroted! Edited by mcjules: 2/2/2015 05:25:17 PM Oh the myth that Labor left us with the fastest growth in spending in the world and the third fastest growth in debt in the OCED? That myth? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-13/joe-hockey-correct-on-australia-debt-and-spending/5310736
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how is it that the biggest virgins on this forum want labor? Is it so you can sit at home and watch YouTube clips of football all day?
This Anna bitch doesn't even have a plan for the state :lol:
Saying that she won't sell assets isn't a plan.
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SlyGoat36 wrote:Saying that she won't sell assets isn't a plan. That is so naive it's just sad mate.
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Draupnir wrote:SlyGoat36 wrote:Saying that she won't sell assets isn't a plan. That is so naive it's just sad mate. One day maybe he'll get some life experience and stop parroting what his parents tell him. I did have a chuckle about calling us "virgins" as I'm sitting in a maternity ward with my 3 day old son :lol:
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Draupnir wrote:SlyGoat36 wrote:Saying that she won't sell assets isn't a plan. That is so naive it's just sad mate. Hes right. other than no asset sales and hiring a few teachers and nurses Labor has no plan. She even stated she wasnt going to rehire the public service workers cruelly sacked by Newman because apparently most of them had "moved to NSW " to find jobs. Can you imagine the outrage had Newman said such a thing.
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SlyGoat36 wrote:how is it that the biggest virgins on this forum want labor? Is it so you can sit at home and watch YouTube clips of football all day?
This Anna bitch doesn't even have a plan for the state :lol:
Saying that she won't sell assets isn't a plan. You seem mad.
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rusty wrote:Draupnir wrote:SlyGoat36 wrote:Saying that she won't sell assets isn't a plan. That is so naive it's just sad mate. Hes right. other than no asset sales and hiring a few teachers and nurses Labor has no plan. She even stated she wasnt going to rehire the public service workers cruelly sacked by Newman because apparently most of them had "moved to NSW " to find jobs. Can you imagine the outrage had Newman said such a thing. They had to go to nsw before they got so poor that they forgot how to drive.#HockeyNomics
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mcjules wrote:Draupnir wrote:SlyGoat36 wrote:Saying that she won't sell assets isn't a plan. That is so naive it's just sad mate. One day maybe he'll get some life experience and stop parroting what his parents tell him. I did have a chuckle about calling us "virgins" as I'm sitting in a maternity ward with my 3 day old son :lol: Ah yes, not only a perfectly objective and rational thinker but one who is free of parental influence, unlike all those parentally influenced conservatives! Cant they see how parentally influenced they are! It must be great being a Labor supporter, possessing minds of such power that they are able free themselves of all bias and parental influence.
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rusty wrote:mcjules wrote:Draupnir wrote:SlyGoat36 wrote:Saying that she won't sell assets isn't a plan. That is so naive it's just sad mate. One day maybe he'll get some life experience and stop parroting what his parents tell him. I did have a chuckle about calling us "virgins" as I'm sitting in a maternity ward with my 3 day old son :lol: Ah yes, not only a perfectly objective and rational thinker but one who is free of parental influence, unlike all those parentally influenced conservatives! Cant they see how parentally influenced they are! It must be great being a Labor supporter, possessing minds of such power that they are able free themselves of all bias and parental influence. Political binary is a social construct.
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notorganic wrote:SlyGoat36 wrote:how is it that the biggest virgins on this forum want labor? Is it so you can sit at home and watch YouTube clips of football all day?
This Anna bitch doesn't even have a plan for the state :lol:
Saying that she won't sell assets isn't a plan. You seem mad. Nuh, doesn't effect me either way. I prefer liberal over labor though. See too many bogans loving the free ride they get from that party full of crooks. I'd be pretty bang on to assume all the young voters swaying to labor as it seems to be the 'cool' thing to do.
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mcjules wrote:Draupnir wrote:SlyGoat36 wrote:Saying that she won't sell assets isn't a plan. That is so naive it's just sad mate. One day maybe he'll get some life experience and stop parroting what his parents tell him. I did have a chuckle about calling us "virgins" as I'm sitting in a maternity ward with my 3 day old son :lol: Congrats for giving your son a shit and uncertain future. =d>
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SlyGoat36 wrote:mcjules wrote:Draupnir wrote:SlyGoat36 wrote:Saying that she won't sell assets isn't a plan. That is so naive it's just sad mate. One day maybe he'll get some life experience and stop parroting what his parents tell him. I did have a chuckle about calling us "virgins" as I'm sitting in a maternity ward with my 3 day old son :lol: Congrats for giving your son a shit and uncertain future. =d> If it's uncertain how do you know it will be shit...:-k
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