The Australian Politics thread: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese


The Australian Politics thread: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese

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ricecrackers wrote:
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You know ricey people do have free thought. And here I thought you said you arent the tyoe to pick a side in politics.


who says I'm picking a side?

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paulbagzFC wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
oh noes the ABC
who is going to tell mcdunce what to think now...

Edited by ricecrackers: 25/6/2015 05:19:25 PM


News Ltd has done a pretty good job on the sheeple in Australia so far.

-PB


News ltd can do what they like as they're not funded by taxpayers money.
They appeal to a market, the mainstream 'right' idiots. Actually their real customers are their advertisers.

Fairfax are no better, they have the same business model but target the mainstream 'leftist' idiots. Same again, their real customers are their advertisers. Its Coles and Woolies and no one else gets a serious look in.

The issue with the ABC (and SBS) is different, we are paying for that and not by choice. With our money they use it to deliver agendas. Global agendas (ie those promoted chiefly by international banks) and agendas of the government of the time. There are some regional/local ABC journalists around the country that try to do the right thing, however the flagship programs of the national television broadcast service, the online service and any of the national radio news broadcast services as well as the youth broadcaster are jamming propaganda down your throats as your expense.

All the while the ALP and the Coalition are playing good cop bad cop with the idiot masses. Whilst the plebs squabble about ridiculous endless debates like evolution vs creation, gay marriage, terrorists under the mattress and whether man is changing the climate, they're screwing you every which way with legislation that increases your cost of living and delivers greater revenue to the international banking system and a range of other globalised corporate entities such as the pharmaceutical industries and oil/gas industries.

I for one would not miss the ABC news service. It has become overly corrupted and compromised. It is not providing a service to ordinary Australians, rather its manipulating your mindset. Much of their foreign affairs content in particular is delivered straight from the BBC.
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ricecrackers wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
oh noes the ABC
who is going to tell mcdunce what to think now...

Edited by ricecrackers: 25/6/2015 05:19:25 PM


News Ltd has done a pretty good job on the sheeple in Australia so far.

-PB

All the while the ALP and the Coalition are playing good cop bad cop with the idiot masses. Whilst the plebs squabble about ridiculous endless debates like evolution vs creation, gay marriage, terrorists under the mattress and whether man is changing the climate, they're screwing you every which way with legislation that increases your cost of living and delivers greater revenue to the international banking system and a range of other globalised corporate entities such as the pharmaceutical industries and oil/gas industries.


Good post.

Inb4 people just resort to stupid adhom attacks.
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433 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
oh noes the ABC
who is going to tell mcdunce what to think now...

Edited by ricecrackers: 25/6/2015 05:19:25 PM


News Ltd has done a pretty good job on the sheeple in Australia so far.

-PB

All the while the ALP and the Coalition are playing good cop bad cop with the idiot masses. Whilst the plebs squabble about ridiculous endless debates like evolution vs creation, gay marriage, terrorists under the mattress and whether man is changing the climate, they're screwing you every which way with legislation that increases your cost of living and delivers greater revenue to the international banking system and a range of other globalised corporate entities such as the pharmaceutical industries and oil/gas industries.


Good post.
Not just a good post, a great post! =d>

Especially the part about plebs squabbling about whether man is changing the climate. I mean what sort of loser would make pages and pages of posts doing that on a football forum :lol:

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433 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
oh noes the ABC
who is going to tell mcdunce what to think now...

Edited by ricecrackers: 25/6/2015 05:19:25 PM


News Ltd has done a pretty good job on the sheeple in Australia so far.

-PB

All the while the ALP and the Coalition are playing good cop bad cop with the idiot masses. Whilst the plebs squabble about ridiculous endless debates like evolution vs creation, gay marriage, terrorists under the mattress and whether man is changing the climate, they're screwing you every which way with legislation that increases your cost of living and delivers greater revenue to the international banking system and a range of other globalised corporate entities such as the pharmaceutical industries and oil/gas industries.


Good post.

Inb4 people just resort to stupid adhom attacks.


correct weight on that prediction
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Gillian Triggs tells of giving up disabled daughter
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Gillian Triggs has spoken in depth about the baby girl she gave up to be raised by another family.

The Australian Women’s Weekly interviewed the Australian Human Rights Commission president about her child, Victoria, who was born in 1984 with a disability and died at the age of 21.

While Professor Triggs had made passing reference to Vict­oria in a Fairfax interview in 2013, this was the first time she had ­spoken about what unfolded and her decision to give her to another family to raise.

Victoria was born with ­Edwards syndrome, a chromo­somal disorder associated with organ abnormalities, defects and an intellectual disability.

Explaining the difficult decision, Professor Triggs said she had had two toddlers at home and with three children under four it was “very difficult” to look after Victoria.

She decided to give her daughter to the United Church’s respite carer, a woman named Margaret.

“I said, ‘I’m really reluctant to leave her with you because I would feel terrible if she died’. But she said she had experience looking after (high-needs) children so I left her holding a red-faced ­Victoria, and she settled her quite quickly,’’ she told the magazine.

Professor Triggs said she had initially left Victoria with the carer at weekends but eventually, with work and family commitments increasing, she reversed the arrangement so the carer looked after her during the week.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/gillian-triggs-tells-of-giving-up-disabled-daughter/story-fn9ymmvo-1227413483637
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
The alp should dissociate itself from the unions but can still be a workers party. And it needs to get rid of the cfmeu pronto. As a former member of the "militant union" I prefer the union stick to things it knows


How can the ALP dissociate itself from the unions? The ALP as an entity is a product of the unions.

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lukerobinho wrote:
Gillian Triggs tells of giving up disabled daughter
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Gillian Triggs has spoken in depth about the baby girl she gave up to be raised by another family.

The Australian Women’s Weekly interviewed the Australian Human Rights Commission president about her child, Victoria, who was born in 1984 with a disability and died at the age of 21.

While Professor Triggs had made passing reference to Vict­oria in a Fairfax interview in 2013, this was the first time she had ­spoken about what unfolded and her decision to give her to another family to raise.

Victoria was born with ­Edwards syndrome, a chromo­somal disorder associated with organ abnormalities, defects and an intellectual disability.

Explaining the difficult decision, Professor Triggs said she had had two toddlers at home and with three children under four it was “very difficult” to look after Victoria.

She decided to give her daughter to the United Church’s respite carer, a woman named Margaret.

“I said, ‘I’m really reluctant to leave her with you because I would feel terrible if she died’. But she said she had experience looking after (high-needs) children so I left her holding a red-faced ­Victoria, and she settled her quite quickly,’’ she told the magazine.

Professor Triggs said she had initially left Victoria with the carer at weekends but eventually, with work and family commitments increasing, she reversed the arrangement so the carer looked after her during the week.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/gillian-triggs-tells-of-giving-up-disabled-daughter/story-fn9ymmvo-1227413483637


So how is this relevant in this thread exactly?
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Draupnir wrote:
lukerobinho wrote:
Gillian Triggs tells of giving up disabled daughter
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Gillian Triggs has spoken in depth about the baby girl she gave up to be raised by another family.

The Australian Women’s Weekly interviewed the Australian Human Rights Commission president about her child, Victoria, who was born in 1984 with a disability and died at the age of 21.

While Professor Triggs had made passing reference to Vict­oria in a Fairfax interview in 2013, this was the first time she had ­spoken about what unfolded and her decision to give her to another family to raise.

Victoria was born with ­Edwards syndrome, a chromo­somal disorder associated with organ abnormalities, defects and an intellectual disability.

Explaining the difficult decision, Professor Triggs said she had had two toddlers at home and with three children under four it was “very difficult” to look after Victoria.

She decided to give her daughter to the United Church’s respite carer, a woman named Margaret.

“I said, ‘I’m really reluctant to leave her with you because I would feel terrible if she died’. But she said she had experience looking after (high-needs) children so I left her holding a red-faced ­Victoria, and she settled her quite quickly,’’ she told the magazine.

Professor Triggs said she had initially left Victoria with the carer at weekends but eventually, with work and family commitments increasing, she reversed the arrangement so the carer looked after her during the week.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/gillian-triggs-tells-of-giving-up-disabled-daughter/story-fn9ymmvo-1227413483637


So how is this relevant in this thread exactly?

Because the tories have been trying to assassinate her character ever since the children in detention report came out? Seriously if this is the worst they can find...

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mcjules wrote:
Draupnir wrote:
lukerobinho wrote:
Gillian Triggs tells of giving up disabled daughter
Quote:
Gillian Triggs has spoken in depth about the baby girl she gave up to be raised by another family.

The Australian Women’s Weekly interviewed the Australian Human Rights Commission president about her child, Victoria, who was born in 1984 with a disability and died at the age of 21.

While Professor Triggs had made passing reference to Vict­oria in a Fairfax interview in 2013, this was the first time she had ­spoken about what unfolded and her decision to give her to another family to raise.

Victoria was born with ­Edwards syndrome, a chromo­somal disorder associated with organ abnormalities, defects and an intellectual disability.

Explaining the difficult decision, Professor Triggs said she had had two toddlers at home and with three children under four it was “very difficult” to look after Victoria.

She decided to give her daughter to the United Church’s respite carer, a woman named Margaret.

“I said, ‘I’m really reluctant to leave her with you because I would feel terrible if she died’. But she said she had experience looking after (high-needs) children so I left her holding a red-faced ­Victoria, and she settled her quite quickly,’’ she told the magazine.

Professor Triggs said she had initially left Victoria with the carer at weekends but eventually, with work and family commitments increasing, she reversed the arrangement so the carer looked after her during the week.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/gillian-triggs-tells-of-giving-up-disabled-daughter/story-fn9ymmvo-1227413483637


So how is this relevant in this thread exactly?

Because the tories have been trying to assassinate her character ever since the children in detention report came out? Seriously if this is the worst they can find...


Oh right, because putting a child up for adoption somehow denotes that she can't bear any judgement on abuses of human rights or something?

Tinfoil hats all around with ricey and lukerobinho. Almost laughable if not for the fact that they're serious.
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433 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
oh noes the ABC
who is going to tell mcdunce what to think now...

Edited by ricecrackers: 25/6/2015 05:19:25 PM


News Ltd has done a pretty good job on the sheeple in Australia so far.

-PB

All the while the ALP and the Coalition are playing good cop bad cop with the idiot masses. Whilst the plebs squabble about ridiculous endless debates like evolution vs creation, gay marriage, terrorists under the mattress and whether man is changing the climate, they're screwing you every which way with legislation that increases your cost of living and delivers greater revenue to the international banking system and a range of other globalised corporate entities such as the pharmaceutical industries and oil/gas industries.


Good post.

Inb4 people just resort to stupid adhom attacks.


Get back to me when you read the multiple independent reports that reveal the ABC leans slightly to the right in terms of bias.
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tories is a British political party not an Australian one mcdunce
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Draupnir wrote:
433 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
oh noes the ABC
who is going to tell mcdunce what to think now...

Edited by ricecrackers: 25/6/2015 05:19:25 PM


News Ltd has done a pretty good job on the sheeple in Australia so far.

-PB

All the while the ALP and the Coalition are playing good cop bad cop with the idiot masses. Whilst the plebs squabble about ridiculous endless debates like evolution vs creation, gay marriage, terrorists under the mattress and whether man is changing the climate, they're screwing you every which way with legislation that increases your cost of living and delivers greater revenue to the international banking system and a range of other globalised corporate entities such as the pharmaceutical industries and oil/gas industries.


Good post.

Inb4 people just resort to stupid adhom attacks.


Get back to me when you read the multiple independent reports that reveal the ABC leans slightly to the right in terms of bias.


what does that have to do with anything I've said?
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Draupnir wrote:
mcjules wrote:
Draupnir wrote:
lukerobinho wrote:
Gillian Triggs tells of giving up disabled daughter
Quote:
Gillian Triggs has spoken in depth about the baby girl she gave up to be raised by another family.

The Australian Women’s Weekly interviewed the Australian Human Rights Commission president about her child, Victoria, who was born in 1984 with a disability and died at the age of 21.

While Professor Triggs had made passing reference to Vict­oria in a Fairfax interview in 2013, this was the first time she had ­spoken about what unfolded and her decision to give her to another family to raise.

Victoria was born with ­Edwards syndrome, a chromo­somal disorder associated with organ abnormalities, defects and an intellectual disability.

Explaining the difficult decision, Professor Triggs said she had had two toddlers at home and with three children under four it was “very difficult” to look after Victoria.

She decided to give her daughter to the United Church’s respite carer, a woman named Margaret.

“I said, ‘I’m really reluctant to leave her with you because I would feel terrible if she died’. But she said she had experience looking after (high-needs) children so I left her holding a red-faced ­Victoria, and she settled her quite quickly,’’ she told the magazine.

Professor Triggs said she had initially left Victoria with the carer at weekends but eventually, with work and family commitments increasing, she reversed the arrangement so the carer looked after her during the week.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/gillian-triggs-tells-of-giving-up-disabled-daughter/story-fn9ymmvo-1227413483637


So how is this relevant in this thread exactly?

Because the tories have been trying to assassinate her character ever since the children in detention report came out? Seriously if this is the worst they can find...


Oh right, because putting a child up for adoption somehow denotes that she can't bear any judgement on abuses of human rights or something?

Tinfoil hats all around with ricey and lukerobinho. Almost laughable if not for the fact that they're serious.

According to the article it wasn't even adoption, she sent her to a respite carer and still looked after her just not full time.

I think it is laughable, both post the way they do so they can chuckle either to themselves or in ricey's case his school mates. Once you understand what they're doing, it's pretty easy to laugh along too.

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BREAKING NEWS: Shock horror, the people who are most educated are also the least likely to vote for right wing parties.

CONSPIRACY!

Edited by Draupnir: 26/6/2015 12:04:47 AM
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what degree do you have draupkick?
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Draupnir wrote:


BREAKING NEWS: Shock horror, the people who are most educated are also the least likely to vote for right wing parties.

CONSPIRACY!

Edited by Draupnir: 26/6/2015 12:04:47 AM


And here i was thinking the left were looking out for the working class :lol:
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lukerobinho wrote:
Draupnir wrote:


BREAKING NEWS: Shock horror, the people who are most educated are also the least likely to vote for right wing parties.

CONSPIRACY!

Edited by Draupnir: 26/6/2015 12:04:47 AM


And here i was thinking the left were looking out for the working class :lol:


1. graph is racist as it only lists white education levels
2. those graphs tell me that republican voters are more likely to earn a high income, which to me is an indication of intelligence (purely based on those graphs, not any personal anecdotal opinion)
3. Draupkick failed to source the link to this graph, but didnt count on ricecrackers streetsmart ingenuity
http://themonkeycage.org/2012/03/23/voting-patterns-of-americas-whites-from-the-masses-to-the-elites/

lifted from some dopey left wing blog

and linked to adnauseum here as well
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024171515

4. Draupkick, whatever his education level has failed to interpret those graphs in the manner they have been presented
5. Graduate degree, what does this indicate? what are the greatest quantity of graduate degrees for? If someone gains a Masters in Sociology does that make them more intelligent than some high school graduate who is earning more money than he/she is from running his/her own business?

As usual the marxists masters use all manner of spin and trickery to influence their largely dopey constituency who are ill-equipped to ask critically thought out questions or interpret spin
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:lol: ricey never change. You are seriously deluded but I wouldn't expect any more from you
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Of course high income earners would vote for a party that would lower their taxes, rather than a party that would increase them.
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ricecrackers wrote:
what degree do you have draupkick?


The old "must have a degree to discuss it" chestnut.

-PB

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paulbagzFC wrote:
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what degree do you have draupkick?


The old "must have a degree to discuss it" chestnut.

-PB


As a side note (not so much of defence) you do get asshats who read shit on the net for 5 minutes like our former super-friends afro and Notor and would claim they knew more than people who spent 4 years studying it.
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Thanks ricey, I know you put that in so I'd quote it. Didn't want to disappoint. :lol:

Not concerned about you changing, but please never stop posting.

I fully expect a teenage kid to be able to Google to find out who that is but to save you some time, that character's name is Bugs Bunny.

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u4486662 wrote:
Of course high income earners would vote for a party that would lower their taxes, rather than a party that would increase them.


so your saying they vote for the right??
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batfink wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
Of course high income earners would vote for a party that would lower their taxes, rather than a party that would increase them.


so your saying they vote for the right??

The graph above shows higher income earners tend to vote on the right side of the political spectrum. This is hardly surprising.
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The high earners want to protect their earnings, not have them raped by left who stereotypically demand more equality and completely disregard how and why certain jobs earn more money than others.
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benelsmore wrote:
The high earners want to protect their earnings, not have them raped by left who stereotypically demand more equality and completely disregard how and why certain jobs earn more money than others.

The graphs above show two opposing trends, neither of which are surprising. One is that higher income earners are more likely to vote on the right of the political spectrum, and the other is that those with a higher level of education tend to vote on the left of the political spectrum.

Those who are both high income earners and well educated tend to be 50/50.
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u4486662 wrote:
benelsmore wrote:
The high earners want to protect their earnings, not have them raped by left who stereotypically demand more equality and completely disregard how and why certain jobs earn more money than others.

The graphs above show two opposing trends, neither of which are surprising. One is that higher income earners are more likely to vote on the right of the political spectrum, and the other is that those with a higher level of education tend to vote on the left of the political spectrum.

Those who are both high income earners and well educated tend to be 50/50.


Does a higher level of education take into account all the arts and philosophy majors who end up becoming professional students and professional protestors? :p
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u4486662 wrote:
benelsmore wrote:
The high earners want to protect their earnings, not have them raped by left who stereotypically demand more equality and completely disregard how and why certain jobs earn more money than others.

The graphs above show two opposing trends, neither of which are surprising. One is that higher income earners are more likely to vote on the right of the political spectrum, and the other is that those with a higher level of education tend to vote on the left of the political spectrum.

Those who are both high income earners and well educated tend to be 50/50.

Yep exactly.

The group of people that fit on the peak of that black line in the non-HS graduate chart are the ones I have the least time for personally :)

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mcjules wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
benelsmore wrote:
The high earners want to protect their earnings, not have them raped by left who stereotypically demand more equality and completely disregard how and why certain jobs earn more money than others.

The graphs above show two opposing trends, neither of which are surprising. One is that higher income earners are more likely to vote on the right of the political spectrum, and the other is that those with a higher level of education tend to vote on the left of the political spectrum.

Those who are both high income earners and well educated tend to be 50/50.

Yep exactly.

The group of people that fit on the peak of that black line in the non-HS graduate chart are the ones I have the least time for personally :)


Not a fan of low to middle income workers ? I thought the left was looking out for the little guy
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