Well, the thing is it was an act of terrorism... by 1990s standards of terrorism. Only problem is the term terrorism is evolving through misuse to describe deliberate malicious acts of public violence by people of other races, ethnicities or religions, whereas white terrorism is someone with a mental health issue in the form of a mass murder or a killing spree. Like how literally and irony now also hold traditionally incorrect meanings through constant misuse.

Semantics aside I do agree with you, a police state is not the answer. Especially not when the power is held by institutionally biased leaders. Also this sort of fascist bullshit wouldn't have stopped the Lindt Cafe siege; the guy was a resident. Net result would have been a few people sent home, a bunch of residents angry at being racially profiled and the cafe attack still would have happened. Same result, only more angry (and hence more easily "radicalised".) locals. Dumb move by a backward, incompetent government.

I don't think I've ever been this pissed off at a government. Shaking down Asians and Muslims in the street and asking for their papers? Seriously? What planet are they living on?

But but but we also targetting white people too

There are people in ISIS that aren't muslim too apparently.

They said...

They said they are not targeting specific races and nor should they. Quite a few non muslim whites have joined ISIS.

Well, the thing is it was an act of terrorism... by 1990s standards of terrorism. Only problem is the term terrorism is evolving through misuse to describe deliberate malicious acts of public violence by people of other races, ethnicities or religions, whereas white terrorism is someone with a mental health issue in the form of a mass murder or a killing spree. Like how literally and irony now also hold traditionally incorrect meanings through constant misuse.

Semantics aside I do agree with you, a police state is not the answer. Especially not when the power is held by institutionally biased leaders. Also this sort of fascist bullshit wouldn't have stopped the Lindt Cafe siege; the guy was a resident. Net result would have been a few people sent home, a bunch of residents angry at being racially profiled and the cafe attack still would have happened. Same result, only more angry (and hence more easily "radicalised".) locals. Dumb move by a backward, incompetent government.

Edited by Scoll: 28/8/2015 05:21:14 PM

I dont understand how anyone can support gun control and not support further security measures in a post 911 world.

Quite simply because they are completely different and it is ridiculous... actually no, being tacit isn't worthwhile... it's stupid to compare gun control to aggravated racial profiling.

Guns *are* dangerous
Ethnic minorities *may* be dangerous (in the sense that anyone has the capacity to be dangerous)

You can strawman all you like, but there is no direct causal implication that leads from "it is ok to ban fully automatic high powered firearms that have no actual need" to "it is ok to live in a police state"

Not sure how legit this is, but interesting nonetheless.

Links

would have loved to have seen their faces when they pull up the second/third generation Aussie Pakistanis in the street and try to grill them over ISIS matters

Stopping random people in the CBD has nothing to do with stopping terrorists, and EVERYTHING to do with "displaying force" to the general population so the govt can win "security" brownie points.

Even the over-the-top press release and reaction is intended - they want the rent-a-crowd lefties to come out and protest.

So then the political narrative shifts from the govt's problems to "security", an issue conservative govts always benefit from. The average joe will take the govt side when he sees the Socialist Alliance crowd out protesting on the news.

And everyone forgets about the govt problems of the last few months.

I can see andrew bolt twisting this around and try to blame labour .

Exactly this =d>

Also do people really think the Lindt Cafe Siege was a terrorist attack?

Yep, exactly this. Labor does something the Left don't agree with. Blame the Conservatives.

That sentence was a train wreck from start to finish.

How are you linking Labor and it's policies to the Lindt Cafe Siege?

-PB

That sentence was a train wreck from start to finish.

How are you linking Labor and it's policies to the Lindt Cafe Siege?

-PB

Why does the government need to win brownie points when they were just voted in a couple of months ago?




I think you are confused. This was a Victorian Government operation. Labor are in control down there buddy.


Edited by vanlassen: 29/8/2015 08:50:35 AM

Bill Shorten backed the operation so I dont think this is political.

:lol: no it was political in the sense that it was being used to quash opposition to the government. It's political in the sense that it's supposed to give the Liberal party a boost in the polls.

Edited by mcjules: 29/8/2015 05:50:53 PM