And for someone who claims to be in fifties you sure act like a child. Im done arguing with someone whose joys come from trolling internet forums picking fights .

It's not my fault you get fired up when someone challenges your assertions.

Here's what happened.

You: "A lot of people are wondering"

Me: "Like who?"

You: Fuck off wanker I'm done talking to you etc etc

It's not that hard. If a lot of commentators are saying that then link them and prove me wrong otherwise I'll just take your above statement as unattributed anecdotal rubbish as per usual.

I would've thought you'd jump at the chance to prove me wrong so link away.

There's only one person acting like a child here and that's you. You got challenged on an unattributed assertion then you've cracked the shits and started slagging me off.

How about you play the ball for once.


And BTW I've never claimed I'm in my fifties. That's Batty territory. Try harder.

I think it was a bit shit of Shorten to come in playing the white knight as well just to win some brownie points.

-PB

Yep shorten trying to win brownie points . I dont know why though considering she never was in office. She was a cos thats all

So tony abott's department discussed investigating the B.O.M over exggeration of global warming . :lol: what the actual fuck

A question that interested me from a link posted in another thread by Murdoch's Rags:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-11/vote-compass-full-data-explorer/5016244

The one that sticks out is making it law to have more women in senior positions. What does this achieve? The first issue I see is that making a quota system create's the whole "you're only here because you have to be" mentality that leads to a lack of respect in my view.

Whilst I agree positions should be filled by the most appropriate candidate, enforcing quotas will have a negative effect in my view.

Without getting into an argument about quotas and merit based appointments here's a hypothetical for you that I wonder if you could answer?

If almost every other country in the OECD has more women (by a long shot) represented on boards, in parliament and as CEO's than say country X would you say country X has a cultural problem towards women in positions of power or not?

Or would you say that those women that live in country X are not as talented as women in all of those other countries that has a much higher representation across the board?

A cultural problem or women without talent and ambition?

Please don't tell me about pregnancies and families etc unless the women in those other countries don't have uteri.

How's those sources coming along MV?

Look them up as you told me .

So none?

That's OK. I suspected you were talking out of your arse when you said it.

No im doing what you told me look it up its called google . Now kindly fuck off and leave me in peace.

Well 2 things.

1) I didn't tell you to look it up and
2) I can't find them which is why I'm asking you.

It was you that made the original assertion wasn't it?

Yes, yes it was.

Moving on. Why on earth did tony abotts department discuss looking into the bom ? Seriously that assertion makes him look more buffonish .

I don't get the accusation that she is "playing the gender card". She made some fairly obvious points about how female authority figures are perceived as opposed to men, that's all.

As to the issue of quotas - I am not vehemently against them, but think they are not necessarily as effective as they should be. Because they apply a Band-Aid solution without dealing with the root causes of why there aren't enough women in those roles. Obviously, at the superficial level they work in regards to forcing men to accept more women in those roles, and modify (hopefully) inappropriate behaviours. But they don't address underlying causes like the way work life is structured to make it hard to balance family life, combined with the societal expectations of women to manage the kids etc etc.

Well heres the thing she wasnt an authority figure. She was just a staff member of tony abotts. She had no offical power

She was abbotts chief of staff, so she did have power in that role as his rep to MPs.

She had no offical power.

Nice sidestep


Whilst the narrative is head strong on getting women into power and leadership roles or white collar fields that are well remunerated, at the expense of qualified men. Why do women almost completely avoid difficult and dangerous blue collar jobs with no push for "gender equality" there.

Who says that is the case?

What is the actual point you are trying to make regarding whether she had "official" power or not. I'm not following what you are trying to say.

She saying that because she was a women she was a difficult person to deal with according to the media. She was a chief of staff who didnt run the damn country. Her influence in tony abotts office was bordering on micromanagement. Tony was pm but she felt she had the power to run the country.

Did one of your "sources" tell you that?

Eid mubarak to you too man rub. I cant be effed in arguing with you . Sholom

You transparent clown. I knew you couldn't resist and low and behold here you are.

Who's sidestepping here you peanut? The question was for Ben but feel free to swing a bat at it if you like.

I said I'm not going to argue merit or quotas with the likes of you and your ilk because it's irrelevant to the point I'm making.

The observation above that women overseas, in cultural, economic and educational settings similar to ours have a far higher representation in positions of power is valid and sound.

Either Australian women lack ambition and talent or there's a cultural issue at play. (Subconsciously or consciously.)

Or perhaps you'd like to provide an alternate viewpoint as to why there's such a disparity between Australia and the rest of the OECD.

Batter up.




Edited by munrubenmuz: 24/9/2015 11:13:23 PM

I'm not the one pretending I know the inner workings of the PM's office. Either put up your sources or your reasons for saying what you say or expect them to be questioned.

Man let it go seriously havent you read or heard the constant leaks from the libs about peta credlin? Fuck sakes man your obessessed. If someone disagrees with you . You make it your lifes work to run them out of this thread. Maybe just maybe a lot of people like talking politics . Grow the hell up

The low hanging fruit of fear mongering. Now becoming institutionalised.
Fixing the economy by the self-proclaimed 'better economic managers', seems to be hanging a little too high...

I like talking politics. What I don't like is when wankers sprout crap and then when they're asked to provide a source or a link I'm told to "go fuck yourself" or some charming variation thereof.

If you wish to engage in discourse such as that towards me then expect to be hounded when you make lame, pseudo-intellectual unattributed assertions about all manner of guff.

I've said this before MV but if a grenade is lobbed in my trench I'm chucking a few back so either don't throw them or expect some back in your direction.

Dont get so anecdotal Munrub.

-PB

No you dont . All you do is hound people who disagree with you. Look up google as you told me . I aint doing your work for you if you want to discredit me . Look it up . All i see from you is someone who needs validation from strangers.