NBN was always going to be a failure.

Negative

Only for those stuck in the 50's

100% accurate

Should have just carried out comprehensive upgrades between ALL exchanges and then let private enterprise to do the local hauls

i don't think for a moment you are stuck in the 50's..................

government should not be involved in rolling out retail services

Can't patch muh tin can and fishing line into this fang dangled optical fibre (isn't fibre in Weetie Bicks?)

-PB

Fixed

:lol: good old rusty protecting his employer .

Yes he said it is bigotry at its most shameless, he didn't say they didn't have a right to be bigots. Shameless bigotry is permitted.

Yeah that's it :lol:

They're Christians mate, they love feeling persecuted

funny thing is i do fiber and high speed data, so no i have no dramas with this sort of shit....

i also do the data and fiber for the NBN head office in sydney, and can see why its costing so much....lol

It's funny how rusty and batfink are so vocal in their opposition to it and they are the most vested in it failing :lol:

Who'd have thought!

Edited by mcjules: 5/11/2015 04:30:16 PM

What is Brandis going on about?

Who criticised Abbott for being catholic? I've only seen him being criticised for being an a-hole

I will not personally gain a dime by the NBN failing. I'm not even a shareholder, I have shares in Hutchison telecom (Vodafone).

That's still government intervention

Flip flopping with faux review committees plus copper NBN plus fibre NBN upgrade in 2030 (or later) ~ $120B
Fibre NBN in 2020 ~ $80B

Basic logic

opposition to it???? i don't oppose the idea of the NBN, it's just another of labors failed ventures, they couldn't organise a fuck in a brothel, only need look at the solar scheme running 3-4 times over budget with no one monitoring it, the insulation scheme,what a debacle, the BER another fuck up....... the NBN was is and always will be a massive fuck up and waste of taxpayers money, that was planned and delivered terribly........ i support high speed internet rollout but not the way it's been done...............

not necessarily

Edited by batfink: 6/11/2015 08:08:40 AM

If it keeps you in a job by ensuring Telstra's viability, then you are gaining a dime in my opinion.

The Libs have done a far worse job of it and it's going to end up costing a whole lot more.

What I can't understand is how there isn't wayyyy more heat over the consistent failure to confirm what the plan is to roll out this service.

Either build it and build it fast or don't.

This stuffing about is only costing the tax payer more money.

well when you are flick passed a dog turd its pretty hard not to make a mess out of it.......Labor have a long long history of fucking shit up and then leaving to other to rectify

really all that was need was a national roll out of high speed Fiber between exchanges and then a local strategy to implement exchange to house connections

This I agree with. The media are either owned by stakeholders (e.g. Rupert) who see high speed broadband as a threat to their existing business models (Optus taking the EPL rights a case in point) or government owned and have seemed petrified to ask Malcolm any tough questions on it. Couple that with older people's general lack of understanding of the technology and we have this mess.

Fibre was already linking the vast majority of exchanges. If you meant to say rolling fibre just to the distribution points (street corners), I'd agree with you too.
This would:
1. cut the most expensive part out of the roll out which is connecting premises.
2. Would mean that those that want/need to run fibre to their premises could at a reasonable cost (not the 10s of thousands it is with FTTN)
3. The copper runs would be short meaning better sync speeds using G.Fast and other future VDSL technologies.
4. Also would be easier/cheaper to remediate any faulty copper lines

TPP text revealed.

Fuck me dead why are we signing this shit again?

-PB

Because free trade is the basis of most of our economic growth over the last 70 years.

dont you want free trade? :)

Because our so-called 'democracy' doesn't provide us with an alternative to people who dislike it.

Andrew Robb, and every politician who backs this bill should be hung for treason.