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What's wrong with it champ.
Have I told any fibs? :lol: :-k :-k Aikhme wrote:There are over 750,000 Greeks in melbourne. Aikhme wrote:Or the fact that some 10 million Australians negatively gear - most of them working class battlers! In amongst talking about being a card shark and a green beret, you pull factoids out your arse which anyone can look up and see are false. Aikhme wrote:I don't have any Multis. I swear! ::d :d
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Davide82 wrote:Aikhme wrote: That's because I stimulate your mind! I will take you outside your comfort zone! :cool:
:lol: I don't know which of the two I find funnier or more delusional :lol: Enjoy your linguisticnesitude Edited by davide82: 20/5/2016 12:16:22 PM Oh brother. You're taking the piss! I am trying to educate you about the real world and this is what I get? :-k
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canonical wrote:Aikhme wrote:....
What's wrong with it champ.
Have I told any fibs? :lol: :-k :-k Aikhme wrote:There are over 750,000 Greeks in melbourne. Aikhme wrote:Or the fact that some 10 million Australians negatively gear - most of them working class battlers! In amongst talking about being a card shark and a green beret, you pull factoids out your arse which anyone can look up and see are false. Aikhme wrote:I don't have any Multis. I swear! ::d :d I don't have any Multis, and don't see a need for them. Creating one after a banning is a completely different matter and wouldn't have happened without getting banned for no reason in the first place. Plus, I made no attempt to change my style. If I did, you guys would be scratching your head for ages because most of you are not very bright! :cool: Edited by Aikhme: 20/5/2016 12:28:55 PM
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Aikhme wrote:Davide82 wrote:Aikhme wrote: That's because I stimulate your mind! I will take you outside your comfort zone! :cool:
:lol: I don't know which of the two I find funnier or more delusional :lol: Enjoy your linguisticnesitude Edited by davide82: 20/5/2016 12:16:22 PM Oh brother. You're taking the piss! I am trying to educate you about the real world and this is what I get? :-k :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Naw shucks, thank you anonymous internet man. There is not a single part of me you stimulate. Heaven forbid (as God said to Pell). To the rest of you, sorry for being bored and derailing what is generally an interesting thread
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Davide82 wrote:Aikhme wrote:Davide82 wrote:Aikhme wrote: That's because I stimulate your mind! I will take you outside your comfort zone! :cool:
:lol: I don't know which of the two I find funnier or more delusional :lol: Enjoy your linguisticnesitude Edited by davide82: 20/5/2016 12:16:22 PM Oh brother. You're taking the piss! I am trying to educate you about the real world and this is what I get? :-k :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Naw shucks, thank you anonymous internet man. There is not a single part of me you stimulate. Heaven forbid (as God said to Pell). To the rest of you, sorry for being bored and derailing what is generally an interesting thread This is a forum dude. Of course I am anonymous until I meet you blokes face to face. I did offer but all I get is cheek. :-k
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rusty wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:The irony of relatively illiterate rights wingers labelling Greens voters loonies. But but but, they need to get a job in the REAL WORLD.......:lol: :lol: :lol: What you're not getting is that all of those professions, the greens are still the least favoured party. Even in the environmental sciences the Greens only get 30% of the vote. So on an aggregate basis you have more tertiary qualified professionals voting Liberal and Labor than the greens. Dear, oh, dear, where do I start. Do you understand what the concept is of populations, samples, averages & significance? Do you also know what the logical fallacy of argumentum ad populum is?
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:rusty wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:The irony of relatively illiterate rights wingers labelling Greens voters loonies. But but but, they need to get a job in the REAL WORLD.......:lol: :lol: :lol: What you're not getting is that all of those professions, the greens are still the least favoured party. Even in the environmental sciences the Greens only get 30% of the vote. So on an aggregate basis you have more tertiary qualified professionals voting Liberal and Labor than the greens. Dear, oh, dear, where do I start. Do you understand what the concept is of populations, samples, averages & significance? Do you also know what the logical fallacy of argumentum ad populum is? I know what it is, and I wasn't wasn't making that argument. Did you just commit a straw man fallacy?[-x
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Aikhme wrote:Davide82 wrote:Aikhme wrote:Davide82 wrote:Aikhme wrote: That's because I stimulate your mind! I will take you outside your comfort zone! :cool:
:lol: I don't know which of the two I find funnier or more delusional :lol: Enjoy your linguisticnesitude Edited by davide82: 20/5/2016 12:16:22 PM Oh brother. You're taking the piss! I am trying to educate you about the real world and this is what I get? :-k :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Naw shucks, thank you anonymous internet man. There is not a single part of me you stimulate. Heaven forbid (as God said to Pell). To the rest of you, sorry for being bored and derailing what is generally an interesting thread This is a forum dude. Of course I am anonymous until I meet you blokes face to face. I did offer but all I get is cheek. :-k Your posting routine is a fine act!! Step 1 : Make an erroneous statement that can be easily googled and shown to be wrong. Step 2: Say something like 'gee you guys are stupid if you dont believe me' Step 3: Invite stupid guys to meet for a beer so they may learn something from you. Step 4: Wonder why nobody has met you for a beer. Repeat. :lol: :lol:
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So that AFP raid was kinda conveniently timed :lol: -PB
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paulbagzFC wrote:So that AFP raid was kinda conveniently timed :lol:
-PB All it does is draw attention to the leaked info that was mostly ignored back in February. The more exposure Malcolm's failure with the NBN has the better. Edited by mcjules: 20/5/2016 03:29:33 PM
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The NBN seems to be a poisoned chalice for any government at present. Isn't this like the 3rd Government that's failed miserably with it? :lol:
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mcjules wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:So that AFP raid was kinda conveniently timed :lol:
-PB All it does is draw attention to the leaked info that was mostly ignored back in February. The more exposure Malcolm's failure with the NBN has the better. Edited by mcjules: 20/5/2016 03:29:33 PM That's exactly what I said last night. It's really quite amusing. If I did hear about it when it happened I must have just shrugged it off Now, everyone I know is talking about it
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rusty wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:rusty wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:The irony of relatively illiterate rights wingers labelling Greens voters loonies. But but but, they need to get a job in the REAL WORLD.......:lol: :lol: :lol: What you're not getting is that all of those professions, the greens are still the least favoured party. Even in the environmental sciences the Greens only get 30% of the vote. So on an aggregate basis you have more tertiary qualified professionals voting Liberal and Labor than the greens. Dear, oh, dear, where do I start. Do you understand what the concept is of populations, samples, averages & significance? Do you also know what the logical fallacy of argumentum ad populum is? I know what it is, and I wasn't wasn't making that argument. Did you just commit a straw man fallacy?[-x Crikey, you don't even know what the strawman fallacy is. FMD. 'Aggregate base' ignores the concept of populations and averages. Basic, basic shit.
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Anyway, here's some more research on those loony extreme lefties, The Greens, nearly a standard deviation IQ score higher than those on the extreme right; you know, the type that are waiting at the docks with their pitchforks for new boat arrivals...... http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/2008/nov/03/greenpolitics-liberaldemocratshttp://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289608001049
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BETHFC wrote:The NBN seems to be a poisoned chalice for any government at present. Isn't this like the 3rd Government that's failed miserably with it? :lol: It's Australia's largest infrastructure project ever so it's not unexpected that there are going to be some issues. However, the Libs have been trying to wreck the NBN since they took over. They: 1. Basically ground all the existing fibre installations to halt 2. Spent billions renegotiating contracts, handing more money to their mates. 3. Are deploying a vastly inferior solution that will need to be upgraded at even greater expense in the near future All this and it's going to cost the same and take the same amount of time to implement. Absolutely disgraceful and if people understood the tech better there would be widespread outrage at what has happened. Instead it's has been buried. Thanks AFP for bringing it to peoples attention =d>
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mcjules wrote:BETHFC wrote:The NBN seems to be a poisoned chalice for any government at present. Isn't this like the 3rd Government that's failed miserably with it? :lol: It's Australia's largest infrastructure project ever so it's not unexpected that there are going to be some issues. However, the Libs have been trying to wreck the NBN since they took over. They: 1. Basically ground all the existing fibre installations to halt 2. Spent billions renegotiating contracts, handing more money to their mates. 3. Are deploying a vastly inferior solution that will need to be upgraded at even greater expense in the near future All this and it's going to cost the same and take the same amount of time to implement. Absolutely disgraceful and if people understood the tech better there would be widespread outrage at what has happened. Instead it's has been buried. Thanks AFP for bringing it to peoples attention =d> I didn't know they got rid of fibre. What's the point then? We're miles behind every other country, even some less developed than us when it comes to internet. We need fibre and we need it now. Utter BS if they're re-doing contracts. That's a waste of time and money. Hopefully these documents that have been seized show just what a sad state of affairs this project is in.
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BETHFC wrote:mcjules wrote:BETHFC wrote:The NBN seems to be a poisoned chalice for any government at present. Isn't this like the 3rd Government that's failed miserably with it? :lol: It's Australia's largest infrastructure project ever so it's not unexpected that there are going to be some issues. However, the Libs have been trying to wreck the NBN since they took over. They: 1. Basically ground all the existing fibre installations to halt 2. Spent billions renegotiating contracts, handing more money to their mates. 3. Are deploying a vastly inferior solution that will need to be upgraded at even greater expense in the near future All this and it's going to cost the same and take the same amount of time to implement. Absolutely disgraceful and if people understood the tech better there would be widespread outrage at what has happened. Instead it's has been buried. Thanks AFP for bringing it to peoples attention =d> I didn't know they got rid of fibre. What's the point then? We're miles behind every other country, even some less developed than us when it comes to internet. We need fibre and we need it now. They're still using fibre but not all the way to the premises. There's going to be a small improvement over your ADSL connection (VDSL) but it's not going to be satisfactory for long. They're fucking up some parts of the backbone of the NBN network too and because of that, lots of users are reporting slow downs even with existing FTTP users. Quote:Utter BS if they're re-doing contracts. That's a waste of time and money. They had to buy the shitty 100 year old copper that telstra had in the pits to use it. Before they were just leasing the pits. They also want to use the Telstra cable network so had to negotiate a contract for that. Quote:Hopefully these documents that have been seized show just what a sad state of affairs this project is in. Media have already published them, they were just ignored.
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One other thing on these NBN leaks. Some of this information, if it was a public company on the stock exchange, would have had to have been reported by law. I don't understand why a government owned corporation, paid for initially by taxpayer funds doesn't have the same requirements...
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BETHFC wrote:mcjules wrote:BETHFC wrote:The NBN seems to be a poisoned chalice for any government at present. Isn't this like the 3rd Government that's failed miserably with it? :lol: It's Australia's largest infrastructure project ever so it's not unexpected that there are going to be some issues. However, the Libs have been trying to wreck the NBN since they took over. They: 1. Basically ground all the existing fibre installations to halt 2. Spent billions renegotiating contracts, handing more money to their mates. 3. Are deploying a vastly inferior solution that will need to be upgraded at even greater expense in the near future All this and it's going to cost the same and take the same amount of time to implement. Absolutely disgraceful and if people understood the tech better there would be widespread outrage at what has happened. Instead it's has been buried. Thanks AFP for bringing it to peoples attention =d> I didn't know they got rid of fibre. What's the point then? We're miles behind every other country, even some less developed than us when it comes to internet. We need fibre and we need it now. Utter BS if they're re-doing contracts. That's a waste of time and money. Hopefully these documents that have been seized show just what a sad state of affairs this project is in. Its utterly fucking disgusting the TENS of billions of dollars the Liberal Party is wasting, through delays, enquiries & a 'two stage' fibre NBN. Cunts of the highest order & they have the gall to make the claim 'better economic managers'; repeat the lie often enough & eventually the (wilfully ignorant) populace will believe you Edited by Murdoch Rags Ltd: 20/5/2016 06:28:13 PM
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I'm waiting to see Labour's policy on NBN, not happy with what the Libs have done. I'm a bit of a tech nerd so it's an important issue for me.
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Brilliant, brilliant article with the kicker statements listed: Quote:Are conservatives better economic managers? ...In my blog, Pearls and Irritations, Ian McAuley pointed out that in the post-war years only Labor treasurers, Paul Keating and Wayne Swan, have won the prestigious Euromoney Finance Minister of the Year award. Peter Costello and Joe Hockey didn’t make it.... ....Peter Costello left us with more serious structural problems like no other treasurer has bequeathed. He was described by the IMF as “the most profligate Treasurer in 50 years”. This view was shared by the Australian Treasury and the Reserve Bank.... http://www.crikey.com.au/2016/05/16/are-conservatives-better-economic-managers/
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canonical wrote:Aikhme wrote:Davide82 wrote:Aikhme wrote:Davide82 wrote:Aikhme wrote: That's because I stimulate your mind! I will take you outside your comfort zone! :cool:
:lol: I don't know which of the two I find funnier or more delusional :lol: Enjoy your linguisticnesitude Edited by davide82: 20/5/2016 12:16:22 PM Oh brother. You're taking the piss! I am trying to educate you about the real world and this is what I get? :-k :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Naw shucks, thank you anonymous internet man. There is not a single part of me you stimulate. Heaven forbid (as God said to Pell). To the rest of you, sorry for being bored and derailing what is generally an interesting thread This is a forum dude. Of course I am anonymous until I meet you blokes face to face. I did offer but all I get is cheek. :-k Your posting routine is a fine act!! Step 1 : Make an erroneous statement that can be easily googled and shown to be wrong. Step 2: Say something like 'gee you guys are stupid if you dont believe me' Step 3: Invite stupid guys to meet for a beer so they may learn something from you. Step 4: Wonder why nobody has met you for a beer. Repeat. :lol: :lol: What statements have I made that are incorrect?
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paulbagzFC wrote:So that AFP raid was kinda conveniently timed :lol:
-PB Great timing and execution! :lol:
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mcjules wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:So that AFP raid was kinda conveniently timed :lol:
-PB All it does is draw attention to the leaked info that was mostly ignored back in February. The more exposure Malcolm's failure with the NBN has the better. Edited by mcjules: 20/5/2016 03:29:33 PM You mean all the leaked info pertaining to the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd Government. The LNP inherited this poisoned chalice as well, but it's all gonna come out with the AFP Investigation. :cool:
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mcjules wrote:BETHFC wrote:The NBN seems to be a poisoned chalice for any government at present. Isn't this like the 3rd Government that's failed miserably with it? :lol: It's Australia's largest infrastructure project ever so it's not unexpected that there are going to be some issues. However, the Libs have been trying to wreck the NBN since they took over. They: 1. Basically ground all the existing fibre installations to halt 2. Spent billions renegotiating contracts, handing more money to their mates. 3. Are deploying a vastly inferior solution that will need to be upgraded at even greater expense in the near future All this and it's going to cost the same and take the same amount of time to implement. Absolutely disgraceful and if people understood the tech better there would be widespread outrage at what has happened. Instead it's has been buried. Thanks AFP for bringing it to peoples attention =d> You mean they tried to reign in spending! If they left things as they were from the previous Labor Government, the project would have cost a lot more. Edited by Aikhme: 20/5/2016 07:21:03 PM
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Aikhme wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:So that AFP raid was kinda conveniently timed :lol:
-PB Great timing and execution! :lol: I think this will do more damage to the LNP tbh, they certainly don't want attention on the NBN.
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Roar_Brisbane wrote:Aikhme wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:So that AFP raid was kinda conveniently timed :lol:
-PB Great timing and execution! :lol: I think this will do more damage to the LNP tbh, they certainly don't want attention on the NBN. Of course it will. Labor needs to go after Turnbull and his gross incompetence over the NBN.
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:rusty wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:rusty wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:The irony of relatively illiterate rights wingers labelling Greens voters loonies. But but but, they need to get a job in the REAL WORLD.......:lol: :lol: :lol: What you're not getting is that all of those professions, the greens are still the least favoured party. Even in the environmental sciences the Greens only get 30% of the vote. So on an aggregate basis you have more tertiary qualified professionals voting Liberal and Labor than the greens. Dear, oh, dear, where do I start. Do you understand what the concept is of populations, samples, averages & significance? Do you also know what the logical fallacy of argumentum ad populum is? I know what it is, and I wasn't wasn't making that argument. Did you just commit a straw man fallacy?[-x Crikey, you don't even know what the strawman fallacy is. FMD. 'Aggregate base' ignores the concept of populations and averages. Basic, basic shit. Im not ignoring anything, im simply pointing out the majority of tertiary education professions do not vote greens. That doesnt mean makes the greens policies wrong, it just means among people who could be considered educated and intelligent the greens are still the least preferred party and the majority of this cohort reject green ideology despite their above average critical thinking skills. It could therefore be argued that intelligence and critical thinking abilites correlate favourably with liberal and labor ideology more so than the greens, depsite your asinine, demonstrably false claim that all liberal voters are illiterate and uneducated. Edited by rusty: 20/5/2016 09:46:29 PM
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Roar_Brisbane wrote:Aikhme wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:So that AFP raid was kinda conveniently timed :lol:
-PB Great timing and execution! :lol: I think this will do more damage to the LNP tbh, they certainly don't want attention on the NBN. The fact is the liberals have managed 1000% more connections in three years than Labor did in six. Its quite incredible that despite the YEARS in roll out delays acheived by the previous NBN management the same people who were arguing everything was on track and on budget are now all over Turnbull MTM because of a few minor setbacks. The double standards are staggering. Anyway I dont think either side of politics has any political capital to extract from the NBN, its been an absolute catastrophe from the start.
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Iridium1010 wrote:I'm waiting to see Labour's policy on NBN, not happy with what the Libs have done. I'm a bit of a tech nerd so it's an important issue for me. If youre a tech nerd and you want fibre I suggest you pay for this yourself, rather than demanding taxpayers foot the bill.
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