the reason its like that is because none of these people get paid by the club so whats your point? they are only ethnic clubs cause they are being run for free by volunteers

i just dont know what the solution is but i agre ethat alot of old soccer fans have been left hanging and i think thats unfair, they need to find a way to bring those fans back. anyway i think none of the roar management would be there if they werent getting paid.


South Melbourne

President
Leo Athanasakis=FREE
Chairman
Nick Galatas=FREE
Treasurer
Peter Parthimos=FREE
Board of Management
Dr George Triantos - Corporate Sales, Marketing & Events
Tony Margaritis - General Business / Merchandise
Tom Kalas – Youth Development
Tom Karatzas - Football / Sales
Nick Maikousis
Lucky Chrisomalidis
Administration
Peter Kokotis - General Manager
Nick Szkilnik - Office Manager
George Kouroumalis - Digital Media and Marketing Manager
Michael Dimoudis - Web Manager
Cindy Nitsos - Club Photographer
Paul Zarogiannis - Video Production (SMFC TV)
David Henning - SMFC TV & SouthRadio host
John Kyrou - SMFC TV, SouthRadio host, Club Historian
Tim Dovas - SMFC TV Filming

Brisbane Roar

Football Department
Head Coach - Ange Postecoglou=PAID
Assistant Coach - Rado Vidosic=PAID
Football Conditioning Coach - Ken Stead=PAID
Goalkeeper Coach - Fernando vaz Alves=PAID
Youth Team Coach - John SimePAID
Team Manager - Ian Dalzell=PAID

Administration
Interim CEO - Michael Bowers=PAID
General Manager, Football - Paul Trimboli=PAID
Financial Controller - Sean Dobson=PAID
Commercial Manager - Steve Guise=PAID
Commercial Sales Manager - Ben Mannion -PAID
Marketing Manager - Kurt Brutton-PAID
Media & Communications Manager - Daniel Lato -PAID
Events Manager - Bruce Stalder -PAID

More than that, Sav. Many of the guys on that list put their own money IN to the club.

Edited by Benjamin: 17/4/2012 09:02:28 PM

Excellent point

They do put their own money in and some of them actually have their house at stake to keeP this club and many many others like it afloat

True football stakeholders

The problem with some on this forum is there too young to understand how ethnics kept this game ticking for so many decades. And when the NSL came to a end it was a slap in the face to many who gave up their free time to help soccer tick in this country, and it dosnt matter what the FFA do those people will never pay to watch a game in the HAL my dad included. The amount of free tickets ive thrown at him he just shrugs his shoulders and says no way. And i know many many people like my dad, there has to be some sort of a solution soon because it would be a shame that my dad and other people like him dont see top flight soccer in this country anymore.

Good one :lol:

Good one:lol:

Dont argue with Rusty his racism is everything that is wrong with football since the NSL making assumption on club based on the LAST name on bored members and players is a joke and Rusty should be ashamed to call him self a human being.

So what is sporting sides have to many people with last names that are Walkers, Smiths, Knights etc are they to English or UK based? should they go sack a few guys to hired a Abdul, Petric and Aloisi.

You have no credibility ur racist thats the facts

Australians are Australians weather ur last name is nguyen, Borg, Papadopous, Smith etc.



By Rusty logic i shouldn't ever play cricket I'm too ethinic No 'ic' in the Australia squad?

Tomic should give up on tennis he isn't Australian because his last name is 'ic'

Cahill, Vidosic, Archie, Sprianovic, Marco, Swarts shouldn't play for Australia amongst the other 100 or so other Australians overseas from 'Ethinic backgrounds'

All Aborignals shouldn't play sport there last names are to 'ethnic' they have a culture that is different and Rusty attitude to intolerance has a set limit.

If you go and change ur last name Jackson ur in! but if ur a Raja ur out!

GET IT

Go F*** ur self :)





Edited by Davstar: 17/4/2012 10:04:17 PM

Now here's a sublime example of clutching at straws. Well done.=d>

If somebody has a problem with our club's heritage then we're not interested in them supporting us. Supporting Sydney United comes with an understand of where the club came from... You dont need to be Croatian, you dont need to love nor care for the country in Europe, but you at least need to respect the history of the club.

What's the point of following a club with history if you want to pretend that it was established yesterday?



Red, white and blue are common colours used by many clubs and nations. The origin of our colours is obvious. But, like I said earlier, people who have a problem with the club's colours do not need to support us.



I've sat at Olympic and Marconi games. Never have I felt 'a bit strange' apart from the fact that I may have been sitting amongst rival football fans.



What a load of shit.



Again... load of shit. I couldnt care less what happens to the A-League. My club is my only concern

Whose arguing im just branding them both racists and biggots who have no idea as to how hard working ethnics have helped our game grow and still help. Both of them are morons who need to congratulate ethnic migrants and the hard work they put in to make our great game grow in this country. Mabe they need to read Johnny warrens book to understand.

Edited by cro69: 17/4/2012 10:04:38 PM

Could it be because these kids grew up with a desire to play for the club?

The higher proportion of kids of Croatian/Greek/Italian heritage playing for their respective 'ethnic' club comes down to simple statistics and probability - ie. 150 kids try out, 100 are Croatian/Greek/Italian. Final squads full of kids of certain background.

The massive amount of Aussies of Croatian background who represented the Socceroos also justifies the large amount of Croatian kids who may have been picked. Dickhead.

His argument 'F*** stupid if every kids last name was smith, Jackson, White etc this guy wouldn't have a problem with it no one calls a club you "UK based" thats normal.

Raisem...must Rusty?

Maybe just maybe it is Ethnic cultures that play football? look at the last 100 players to play for Australia and if more then 50% were actually from a non-ethnic back ground ill never say another word.

Cahill (Samoa), Swarts (German), Marco (Cro-Italian), Spria (Cro), Williams (indian-Wales) i could go all day


Edited by Davstar: 17/4/2012 10:11:34 PM

Touche!! so shut the fuck up Rusty and your mate Paulc.

I don't think people have a "problem" with your clubs heritage, they just don't give a shit about it. If people aren't Croatian they're not going to identify with all the things you identify with, such as the clubs origins, history etc. People want to support clubs that represent THEM not other ethnic communities. If you don't want to take realistic steps to expand your supporter base that's fine, that's why the A league came about.



Exactly. Sydney United is a Croatian club for Australia-Croatian people and lets not pretend otherwise.



They wont



You would feel a bit strange if you were going for Olympic or Marconi.



Fantastic, wish your friends had your attitude, instead of trying to denigrate everything about the A league.

Well I had a desire to play for Man United and I never got picked. Meanies. :(



Oh right so you just rock up with your shin pads, boots and a smile on your face and you can trial for the youth team? :oops:



Now you just contradict yourself here. A second ago you said it was simple stats and probabilities, now you're saying Croat kid had more right to picked than the Anglo or black kid because there were lots of Croats playing for the Aussie team. Could it be that Aussies of Croatian background had more and better opportunities to represent the Socceroos than non Croats did? Either way, what you said is racist and stupid, thankfully these days we don't have to worry about young kids being discriminated against because they have a different sounding surname.


Anyway, I'm done arguing here, there's more important things to debate than shitty ex NSL clubs long past their use-by date. Enjoy the state leagues.

This one's for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=51CR4E5o7-0

:oops: I guess I'm not AUSTRALIAN, as I don't have an Anglo last name.

As an Englishman, I've never had any problem or felt at all strange attending games at South Melbourne (or Bentleigh, Port Melbourne or Northcote - other South 'home' venues in the last couple of years). Can't speak for anyone else, can only judge based on my personal experience. Never - ever - felt like I wasn't welcome or didn't belong there as a football supporter.

Edited by Benjamin: 18/4/2012 11:05:24 AM

A surprisingly large number of Australians don't, luckily for our Aboriginal population most of them were given a British surname during our period of cultural surpression.

That's exactly right. No one has a problem with the names of players a team carries. The perceived problem is generated by those wishing to deflect the real issue why the mono ethnic based clubs, who merely paid lip service to open up to mainstream, were selfishly all about their community first and foremost, and this reflected in their poor crowds, ethnic tensions and fighting resulting in the game going no where.

Have they show in just a handful of years that they have changed? Hell no!

Who said Anglo names were Australian? You created the racial distinction, not me.

If you had Croatian or Italian blood you might feel differently, or go for another team..

Could someone offer an insight into the bolded part?

As some have pointed out that yes most are actually australians, but why do they so many board rooms remain so entrenched with those of the same background that their clubs come from?

Why isnt there a greater diveristy after being in the austrlalian sporting landscape for so long?

Because historically the players etc who have been involved in the clubs came from elsewhere and then moved on. Their strongest links are also still tied into the roots that the clubs sprang from, and as can be seen in the HAL our clubs lack of roots are constantly exposed.

listen as a croat myself i have no problem going to watch other clubs play. On friday im going to watch richmond vs sth melb and saturday green gully vs oakleigh and sunday melb knights vs northcote. Ive never felt out of place at any game ive gone to. And as for you guys thinking the dramas between knights vs sth melb in the old NSL were ethnic based incidents think again, they were cross town derby incidents nothing to do with cros versus greeks its more western melbourne vs eastern melbourne.

I'm Italian and support South. I don't see the issue.

There's always the exception to the rule.

:-s

I think it's more likely they just pick people because they're Italian, Greek etc. I'm sure there's at least one non-Greek web manager or admin assistant in Melbourne somewhere..

No, it is because the people picked have a long association with the club. Unsurprisingly the people with the long association with the club are there because they have links with it going back to its foundation as a social club.

Yes and unsurprisingly those people who have long time associations with the club are ethnic, and therefore the employment opportunities for other-ethnics at board or staff level are virtually none. I have no issue with this, I'm just highlighting once again your clubs are predominantly ethnic/migrant centric and not greatly connected with the wider community.