Then take a stand.

I don't see how anyone can actively support state league sides being locked out of the A-League, whilst saying they support a state league side, and support an A-league side whilst complaining about the NCR/APL concept. Although this is a short statement I have deliberately made it a single, text dense, paragraph for the benefit of our favourite Knights/Heart supporter.

Ben please show me WHERE it says that involvement in the Elite league will allow direct entry into the ALEAGUE?

It only shows its a stepping stone for youth development for the HAL.

And very expensive development at that!!!

It DOES not give Knights or Sth a free card into the HAL but it does say there is chance
for a cup comp vs HAL clubs.

No promise of being part of a 2nd or 3rd divisions nothing nothing nothing.

And why is that NCR lovers?[-x [-x

BECAUSE THE WHOLE THING IS THERE TO SERVICE THE A-LEAGUE - again, this is why I am baffled that someone who is so against he NCR would continue to be so pro-HAL. The two are inextricably linked.

And here we come back to square 1.

The Melb Knights will not be entering in the ELITE Comp.

They will be playing in SL1 with gully,magic, StAlbans and co.

And that comp will be stronger and more supporters through the gate then the Elite comp = FACT.

As for why i follow heart in summer and knights in winter work it out.

The 2 dont clash 1 plays in winter and the other in summer, if they were to clash on same day at same time id be watching the knights.

And dont even start me off again as to how many current ALeague players were once knights players.

And im also pro football and when i know something is wrong ill voice my opinion,

There is a whole lot of things wrong with NCR Framework

For a start being mostly drawn up by people who have no clue about world football and if they did, then that silly box of documents called the NCR Framework would never of seen the light of day.

Tell me 1 just 1 country in the world anywhere where this sort of crap can happen?

Ps!! sorry ben that direct entry comment was for Chris and Uncle Arthur.:oops: :oops:

Edited by cro69: 16/1/2013 05:30:45 PM

I wonder if anyone has thought about the kids that gained the selection in the APL shadow teams on their own abilities for the upcomming season that are now being faced with the possibility of not having any fixtures to play because of all the bickering that is happening by people who should be making the kids the priority and not the egos off bigger clubs. Telling FB and FQ that they will be boycotting BPL if these 3 teams of kids are placed in the BPL for the 2013 season, meanwhile they are asking the same kids to come a trial for their BPL teams but yet when they are in another team they refuse to play the same kids!!!! What the hell is going on people. I just wonder what country these people live in because this is not the Australian way to treat kids like this as these are the ones that will suffer from this crap and will leave the sport, is this what we really want?
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Edited by sweep: 18/1/2013 02:58:58 AM

"Sometimes the questions are compicated and the answers are simple"
DR Seuss

There needs to be clarity from FFA on the structure of junior footbal in Brisbane.

APL tier 1
BPL tier 2
BJL tier 3

FQ before xmas sent TD gary Phillips in lieu of Geoff Foster (too busy with the office party) out to one of the affected APL clubs and explained that the 2nd team in age groups 12-16 would play in the BPL (2nd tier).

The other BPL clubs had trialled and selected their squads for tier 2 BPL .
Now we have the situation where the 2nd team players of the APL will have to play tier 3 competition due the ongoing Politics .

The lack of information forthcoming for the APL is laughable.

-PB

Cro69 you remind me so much of this quote;

“Never argue with an idiot; he will bring you down to his level and win from experience.”
― Brad Slipiec



Edited by Arthur: 18/1/2013 11:15:48 AM

Edited by Arthur: 18/1/2013 11:16:24 AM

I think we should make our own thread for the Queensland division. I keep opening this one hoping that one of these new posts are telling me that the fixture list is out but sadly, I'm greeted by Victorians shouting at each other.

Sorry mate.

We have been getting a lot of Queenslanders coming to VPL this year, is this anything to do with the APL or whats happening at Roar?

Do the premier league clubs sign players to multi year contracts and if they don't what is stopping them? Is it purely financial or they aren't allowed to under the existing comp rules?

I suspect that the APL system DOES have the potential to improve the development pathway for young players - however, I don't believe it's the best way to do it. I do believe, however, it's the best way to hammer down on long established clubs. I also believe that when authorities are hammering down on all and sundry, the best place to be is standing beside them making sure you avoid the hammering.



2 years is the longest I've seen.

Players and clubs both seek to gain the upper hand on each other by keeping short contracts. Clubs prefer short contracts because they can then offload under performing players more easily. Players want one season contracts because one good season can make it more lucrative to shop themselves around at the of the year.

Arthur its done and dusted the members have chosen to stay put.

So there goes your assumptions.

The knights will be staying in SL1 next season.

If the western wolves want to play out of Knights stadium in the Elite comp they can, but for a fee and a big one at that.:lol: :lol:

If only it was a joke. Football QLD at its best.

Thanks mate. A similar situation to semi pro city and country rugby league.

I don't think this has been mentioned (I couldn't see it), and I don't know how long it's been out, but the FFSA has released the fixtures for the 2013 Premier and State Leagues.

http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?c=1-8365-0-203192-0&a=COMPS&seasonID=419603

The thing is, their SportingPulse site lists them as "APL Premier League" and "APL State League", and they are accessed by selecting "Australian Premier League" under Mens Competitions on the FFSA website. I suppose this is confirmation that South Australia will be part of the APL in 2013.

So the SA APL "Premier League" is the first division and the APL "State League" is the second division.

And what is the difference from last year.

What? Brain explosion.

this.
I want to get excited but there is just no promotion or even info

I was looking on the QF website and there is minimal information available.

Sometimes you wonder if Crawford report should apply to State Federations too and let the State League competition be independant of State Federation. :idea: :-k

It is a bizarre situation - the national body takes years to conduct an analysis of what is required, then rather than discussing it with stake-holders they tell the states to get it going... The state federations race to bring it in - moving at a speed that confuses 99% of stake-holders, doesn't allow anyone time to prepare properly, and almost inevitably destabilizes the very structures it is seeking to strengthen.

Some states start this year, others next year, but other than promotion/relegation being removed, there's very little difference to be seen between the old and the new - other than the PPS, which the PFA will almost certainly knock-over... So what have we gained? Other than central control... And is central control a good thing?

Central control seems to be the only positive imo

Doesn't really surprise me TBH.

Rumour down our end is that the fixtures will be released within a week.

same here, you volunteering?

FOR all the hype :lol: :lol: :lol: , the first test of the Western Pride soccer team was only ever going to come when it hit the paddock for its first game.

Having played its first trial match, at Kippen Park against the Lions FC on Saturday night, coach Casey Wehrman is looking confidently to the Australian Premier League's Queensland conference.

Brisbane Premier League's Lions left with a 2-1 victory but Wehrman was pleased his team had the better of the play in the first half.

"It was really good," the former Australia midfielder said. "I think both teams got a little bit tired maybe in the last 20 minutes. But for most of it we were equal with, if not better, than the Lions."

Ipswich's goal, to right winger Will Jordan, was typical of the effort Wehrman was looking for and brought a smile to the coach's face.

With striker Peter Drager making a run in the opposite direction and Schon Hanson bombing on down the right flank, Jordan cut inside and found space as the defenders were dragged out of position, before shooting to score.

"The players worked hard and if they come off each week with the same work rate, I'll be happy," Wehrman said.

"That's what football is all about - what people are doing off the ball as well as on it."

It was the Pride's first competitive hitout but Wehrman found little to fault before they ran out of legs, conceding the second goal in the dying seconds.

"They were very good opposition," he said of the Lions. "We took the lead and played really well in the first half. In the first 15 minutes of the second half, the Lions put more pressure on us and we held them out well. We got tired towards the end (conceding two goals) but we'll get stronger. We set the benchmark we need to stay at in terms of work rate and we will bring up the technical level."

Wehrman can now plan confidently for the start of the APL in March.

"It gives me a good idea of where I am and where the players are with reference to the stronger teams in Brisbane. We got a fair amount of confidence out of it but there's still work to do," he said.

The Pride now prepares for the Silver Boot tournament, from February 1.

Why isn't there a APL Website yet?

Wouldn't it be great if there was a centralised place you could find information about all clubs and competitions, like the A-league website?

Surely it wouldn't be that hard to convince Optus to do it for the competition?