General Ashnak
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Roar_Brisbane wrote:General Ashnak wrote:Roar_Brisbane wrote:Voice ofReason wrote:Interesting to see Devere fit and playing but not getting called up when he was meant to get a call up last time :lol: It's quite clear from Holger's comments that any young player not in the current squad is not good enough. #-o Well for Devere to get a call up he needs to be playing every week for his club and putting in top level performances. Merely getting names as MOTM and selected for teams of the week in his competition, as well as having a good scoring record for a CB, is not anywhere near good enough. You have to be realistic about these things, Lucas Neill is obviously a far superior choic. I think it's quite obvious he plays to many balls along the ground, which doesn't suit our hoof ball game plan. Very true, that sort of high percentage game play is completely unsuitable to modern football. With the sophisticated 'patear largo' (Spanish is sophistaicated right?) game plan the Socceroos are implementing his propensity for putting his foot on the ball and picking a pass is never going to fit in.
The thing about football - the important thing about football - is its not just about football. - Sir Terry Pratchett in Unseen Academicals For pro/rel in Australia across the entire pyramid, the removal of artificial impediments to the development of the game and its players. On sabbatical Youth Coach and formerly part of The Cove FC
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Voice ofReason
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All the action overnight from the Aussies abroad incl. an important goal from a would-be Socceroo http://osaussies.com/thursday-wrap/
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Eastern Glory
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Wow... Carle playing off the bench? i would have thought the M/E leagues would be his jam! Good on Porta for putting one away infront of Holger.
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General Ashnak
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Farrand93 wrote:Wow... Carle playing off the bench? i would have thought the M/E leagues would be his jam! Good on Porta for putting one away infront of Holger. This is a strange thing to say, but why are we looking at Porta now his peak is behind him? I think we should be looking at him, but 3 years ago he was banging them in.
The thing about football - the important thing about football - is its not just about football. - Sir Terry Pratchett in Unseen Academicals For pro/rel in Australia across the entire pyramid, the removal of artificial impediments to the development of the game and its players. On sabbatical Youth Coach and formerly part of The Cove FC
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General Ashnak wrote:Farrand93 wrote:Wow... Carle playing off the bench? i would have thought the M/E leagues would be his jam! Good on Porta for putting one away infront of Holger. This is a strange thing to say, but why are we looking at Porta now his peak is behind him? I think we should be looking at him, but 3 years ago he was banging them in. 1) Because his peak is not behind him. He's 29 years old right in his peak. 2) Because we always had much better options than him until now. Without Mark Viduka or Harry Kewell and with Joshua Kennedy's constant fitness concerns our standards are suddenly much lower.
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Eastern Glory
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General Ashnak wrote:Farrand93 wrote:Wow... Carle playing off the bench? i would have thought the M/E leagues would be his jam! Good on Porta for putting one away infront of Holger. This is a strange thing to say, but why are we looking at Porta now his peak is behind him? I think we should be looking at him, but 3 years ago he was banging them in. Sorry if i was unclear, i don't want Porta in the NT. i was simply congratulating him on scoring infront of Holger :lol: In terms of Carle, i really rate him and his style of play. I thought he'd be a bit hit in the M/E if he has fast, technical players around him and more time on the ball.
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Neanderthal wrote:General Ashnak wrote:Farrand93 wrote:Wow... Carle playing off the bench? i would have thought the M/E leagues would be his jam! Good on Porta for putting one away infront of Holger. This is a strange thing to say, but why are we looking at Porta now his peak is behind him? I think we should be looking at him, but 3 years ago he was banging them in. 1) Because his peak is not behind him. He's 29 years old right in his peak. 2) Because we always had much better options than him until now. Without Mark Viduka or Harry Kewell and with Joshua Kennedy's constant fitness concerns our standards are suddenly much lower. +1. Although when Holger was first told of a striker score multiple goals in Uruguay, he needed to look at him then. His fourth goal for the season in as many games, hopefully this continues for him.
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Voice ofReason
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General Ashnak wrote:Farrand93 wrote:Wow... Carle playing off the bench? i would have thought the M/E leagues would be his jam! Good on Porta for putting one away infront of Holger. This is a strange thing to say, but why are we looking at Porta now his peak is behind him? I think we should be looking at him, but 3 years ago he was banging them in. Last season he did get 17 goals in 16 games for Nacional. But anyway, he is getting looked at now because he is in the M/E that simple.
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General Ashnak
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Voice ofReason wrote:General Ashnak wrote:Farrand93 wrote:Wow... Carle playing off the bench? i would have thought the M/E leagues would be his jam! Good on Porta for putting one away infront of Holger. This is a strange thing to say, but why are we looking at Porta now his peak is behind him? I think we should be looking at him, but 3 years ago he was banging them in. Last season he did get 17 goals in 16 games for Nacional. But anyway, he is getting looked at now because he is in the M/E that simple. Which is a massive concern for me.
The thing about football - the important thing about football - is its not just about football. - Sir Terry Pratchett in Unseen Academicals For pro/rel in Australia across the entire pyramid, the removal of artificial impediments to the development of the game and its players. On sabbatical Youth Coach and formerly part of The Cove FC
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General Ashnak
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Neanderthal wrote:General Ashnak wrote:Farrand93 wrote:Wow... Carle playing off the bench? i would have thought the M/E leagues would be his jam! Good on Porta for putting one away infront of Holger. This is a strange thing to say, but why are we looking at Porta now his peak is behind him? I think we should be looking at him, but 3 years ago he was banging them in. 1) Because his peak is not behind him. He's 29 years old right in his peak. 2) Because we always had much better options than him until now. Without Mark Viduka or Harry Kewell and with Joshua Kennedy's constant fitness concerns our standards are suddenly much lower. Isn't he about to turn 30? Usually strikers are in their peak form around 26-28, but my point really is that if he had come into the Socceroos 3 years ago he would be a settled member of the squad with around the same number of caps as Brosque.
The thing about football - the important thing about football - is its not just about football. - Sir Terry Pratchett in Unseen Academicals For pro/rel in Australia across the entire pyramid, the removal of artificial impediments to the development of the game and its players. On sabbatical Youth Coach and formerly part of The Cove FC
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Overnight action saw a return from injury of one and a late goal by another http://osaussies.com/friday-wrap/
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Nice, Leckie's finally back.
By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.
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good to see leckie back hopefully davidson is back soon
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Eastern Glory
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General Ashnak wrote:Voice ofReason wrote:General Ashnak wrote:Farrand93 wrote:Wow... Carle playing off the bench? i would have thought the M/E leagues would be his jam! Good on Porta for putting one away infront of Holger. This is a strange thing to say, but why are we looking at Porta now his peak is behind him? I think we should be looking at him, but 3 years ago he was banging them in. Last season he did get 17 goals in 16 games for Nacional. But anyway, he is getting looked at now because he is in the M/E that simple. Which is a massive concern for me. For sure. But is that Porta's fault or Holger's? Porta did just about everything Humanly possible last season to get a look in. That said, If Holger's aim is to get us to the WC, then maybe Porta has a part to play. It's clear that re-building the squad is not his aim, if it was, Porta would not have much of a part to play. Most people on this forum think that the two can be done at the same time, my guess is that Holger disagrees. Also, while i'm undecided on Porta, it's worth noting that no other country in the world would exclude a player who is performing well just because he is 29... Players who find form and are considered amongst the best the nation have at the time, should always be considered. England do it, Germany do it, Uruguay do it...
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Farrand93 wrote:For sure. But is that Porta's fault or Holger's? Porta did just about everything Humanly possible last season to get a look in.
That said, If Holger's aim is to get us to the WC, then maybe Porta has a part to play. It's clear that re-building the squad is not his aim, if it was, Porta would not have much of a part to play. Most people on this forum think that the two can be done at the same time, my guess is that Holger disagrees.
Also, while i'm undecided on Porta, it's worth noting that no other country in the world would exclude a player who is performing well just because he is 29... Players who find form and are considered amongst the best the nation have at the time, should always be considered. England do it, Germany do it, Uruguay do it... It is entirely the fault of Holger and before him Pim, Porta can only do what he has been doing for years and be a consistent goal scoring threat. If Holger wants to qualify us for the next WC then he needs to grow some balls.
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nick carle left for similar reasons. saudi arabia is the only league i rate there. It should help ur chances with the roos moving to the a league more than these leagues. If every aussie playing in china the middle east and the mlsplayed here the league would be as good as the k league if not better
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Eastern Glory
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grazorblade wrote:nick carle left for similar reasons. saudi arabia is the only league i rate there. It should help ur chances with the roos moving to the a league more than these leagues. If every aussie playing in china the middle east and the mlsplayed here the league would be as good as the k league if not better Fuarrrrr! Imagine injecting: Kennedy North bosnar Madaschi McKay Wilkinson Cornthwaite Burns Hamill Simon Devere Djulbic Santalab Salley Mullen Griffiths J. Hughes Susak Griffiths R. Neill Bresciano Spiranovic Porta Brosque Ognenovski Carle Carney Reddy wow... A few of them wouldn't get a run, but that'd be nice to have those guys in the league. Edited by farrand93: 7/10/2012 12:17:34 PMEdited by farrand93: 7/10/2012 12:31:18 PM
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Farrand93 wrote:grazorblade wrote:nick carle left for similar reasons. saudi arabia is the only league i rate there. It should help ur chances with the roos moving to the a league more than these leagues. If every aussie playing in china the middle east and the mlsplayed here the league would be as good as the k league if not better Fuarrrrr! Imagine injecting: Kennedy North bosnar Madaschi McKay Wilkinson Cornthwaite Burns Hamill Simon Devere Djulbic Santalab Salley Mullen Griffiths J. Hughes Susak Griffiths R. Neill Bresciano Porta Brosque Ognenovski Carle Carney Reddy wow... A few of them wouldn't get a run, but that'd be nice to have those guys in the league. Edited by farrand93: 7/10/2012 12:17:34 PM let aussie team choose three players from that list and all of a sudden we have perhaps the strongest league in asia...
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Eastern Glory
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That might be jumping the gun a little.
Reddy, plus the boys from China (Minus the Griffos) don't really demand a spot in the league. Most of the other names on the list would be good for the league though.
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I missed it as i was overseas recently, but Brosque in the UAE now!? I must admit i havent watched football from this league, is it in any way a much higher level than the A-league?
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Eastern Glory
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Misc wrote:I missed it as i was overseas recently, but Brosque in the UAE now!? I must admit i havent watched football from this league, is it in any way a much higher level than the A-league? Probably a better league for technique to be honest...
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grazorblade
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if u chose players judiciously...also add cahill and culina to the list just for fun
for brisbane roar id take spira carle and devere
for sfc id take devere culina and bosnar
for wsw id take carney porta and burns
for au id take griffiths brosque and mullen
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for mv id take madaschi north and maybe a dm
for ccm id take og kennedy and wilkinson
you get the picturethese become some of the best sides in asia...
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Reading through ESPN's comments, Kruse seemed to play a full game for his team last night and picked up a yellow. they lost 1-0
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The amout of "...was not in the squad" was upsetting
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Gee seems to be a bad week especially given how it was looking the last few weeks
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Nathan Burns, what a sad story it's become. Once touted as an exciting youngster ready to make the next step in his career, now it seems he's benchwarming week in week out in the K-League. How did it all go wrong?
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sanga1 wrote:Nathan Burns, what a sad story it's become. Once touted as an exciting youngster ready to make the next step in his career, now it seems he's benchwarming week in week out in the K-League. How did it all go wrong? He's been injured
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