The Aussies Abroad Thread


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Using ELO football ratings system, to follow Aussie Abroad

Those of you don't know, Elo rating system, is a method for calculating the relative skill levels of Chess players vs other Chess players

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system

1997 Bob Runyan adapted the Elo rating system to use on international football and posted the results on the Internet. and now this rating is on each nation team wiki web page, along with FIFA ranting

http://www.eloratings.net/world.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Football_Elo_Ratings

Now clubelo.com provides Elo ratings for Euro club football from the early days of the European Cups until today

http://clubelo.com/

Like all ranting or ranking , is an estimation of strength based on past result. Ranking don't tell where a team will be in future..but as we can't watch all games of football in Europe, then a ranking systerm base on Maths , is the best unbiased way to view football across all Euro league and teams

here a list of team rantings where some Australia players are base (number is ELO points)

1931 Borussia Dortmund, Ger (Mitchell Langerak)
1869 Chelsea, Eng (Mark Schwarzer)
1815 Bayer Leverkusen, Ger (Robbie Kruse)
1754 Liverpool, Eng (Brad Jones)
1659 Mainz 05, Ger (Nikita Rukavytsya)
1603 Aston Villa, Eng (Chris Herd)
1595 Dynamo Moscow, Rus (Luke Wilkshire)
1584 Parma, Ita (Terry Antonis)
1565 Celtic, Sco (Tom Rogić)
1547 Club Brugge, Bel (Mathew Ryan)
1524 Fortuna Düsseldorf, Ger (Ben Halloran)
1513 Atalanta, Ita (James Troisi)
1508 Reading, Eng (Adam Federici)
1497 Sassuolo, Ita (Carl Valeri)
1491 Austria Wien, Aut (James Holland)
1476 Luzern, Swi (Oliver Bozanić)
1468 Utrecht, Hol (Michael Zullo, Adam Sarota, Tommy Oar)
1455 AZ, Hol (Eli Babalj)
1424 Crystal Palace, Eng (Mile Jedinak)
1424 FSV Frankfurt, Ger (Mathew Leckie)
1358 Hajduk Split, Cro (Steven Lustica)
1330 Heracles Almelo, Hol (Jason Davidson)
1326 Middlesbrough, Eng (Rhys Williams)
1305 Millwall, Eng (Scott McDonald, Shane Lowry)
1247 Heart of Midlothian, Sco (Dylan McGowan)
1215 Kilmarnock, Sco (Jackson Irvine)
1118 Derry City, Ire (Mark Griffin)

I hope this is helpful, when looking at Aussie Abroad








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Nice list, I think we could say Reading and Crystal Palace will be close to swapping spots though with them swapping leagues and Dusseldorf will also drop with their relegation

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moofa wrote:
Nice list, I think we could say Reading and Crystal Palace will be close to swapping spots though with them swapping leagues and Dusseldorf will also drop with their relegation

Edited by moofa: 17/8/2013 11:53:46 AM


yes. Moofa, this could very well be the case

this ranting, would still be very much base on last 10-15 games of last season


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Celtic v Aberdeen tonight - Celtic have a number of injury doubts, Rogic being one of them. Hopefully he manages to make the bench or something.

Think Kilmarnock are playing at midnight too, will be interesting to see if Irvine makes an appearance.
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Little paragraph on Halloran in a Dusseldorf transfer article (translated)


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The rumors about Ben Halloran on the other hand have not been confirmed. The Australian will remain in Fortuna. "He's just starting times for eight weeks," coach Mike took Büskens the player's defense.


So perhaps some chatter about Halloran being loaned or not up to standard? Anyway as the article states, the manager says he's only been there for 8 weeks and certainly needs time to adjust.


http://www.rp-online.de/sport/fussball/vereine/fortuna/timo-furuholm-wechselt-nach-halle-1.3608919

By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.

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Ali07 wrote:
Yeah, seems like Dortmund may see him as the eventual number 1. Last contract he signed with them was something like a 4-5 year deal.

Could be a long wait. Weidenfeller is only 33 he could play until his early forties.
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JayEss wrote:
Celtic v Aberdeen tonight - Celtic have a number of injury doubts, Rogic being one of them. Hopefully he manages to make the bench or something.

Think Kilmarnock are playing at midnight too, will be interesting to see if Irvine makes an appearance.

Rogic not in the squad.
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Well, there ya go. Halloran starting for Fortuna II (regionalliga west)

Amini on the bench.

Edited by playmaker11: 17/8/2013 09:53:39 PM

By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.

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Halloran played last match for Fortura 2nd..but we don't want Halloran playing to long in what is German semi-professional league

Amini , has he been injured ?


also , there another Australian Milos Degenek playing for VfB Stuttgart 2nd in 3rd Bundesliga ..

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Any news on whether our Aussie contingent in Germany might be featuring in some capacity tonight (bench)?
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Kruse starting































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BIGHUX wrote:
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on the bench


:lol:

[-x

Fucker
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Jackson Irvine starting for Kilmarnock against St Mirren.
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Kruse starting...please don't make me laugh. It's horrible as he has Hegeler, Hilbert and Can to fight for game time today.
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Amini subbed on at HT. Currently down 3-0.

Halloran scored for Fortuna II. Currently up 3-2.

By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.

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playmaker11 wrote:
Amini subbed on at HT. Currently down 3-0.

Halloran scored for Fortuna II. Currently up 3-2.


Where do you get your running updates from bud?
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playmaker11 wrote:
Amini subbed on at HT. Currently down 3-0.

Halloran scored for Fortuna II. Currently up 3-2.

Good on him.
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sanga1 wrote:
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Amini subbed on at HT. Currently down 3-0.

Halloran scored for Fortuna II. Currently up 3-2.


Where do you get your running updates from bud?

Live scores is usually a good website to check
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Twitter, just follow all the clubs. The majority of them post lineups and simple commentary.


http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/3liga/startseite.html

Edited by playmaker11: 17/8/2013 11:48:59 PM

By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.

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playmaker11 wrote:
Little paragraph on Halloran in a Dusseldorf transfer article (translated)


Quote:
The rumors about Ben Halloran on the other hand have not been confirmed. The Australian will remain in Fortuna. "He's just starting times for eight weeks," coach Mike took Büskens the player's defense.


So perhaps some chatter about Halloran being loaned or not up to standard? Anyway as the article states, the manager says he's only been there for 8 weeks and certainly needs time to adjust.


http://www.rp-online.de/sport/fussball/vereine/fortuna/timo-furuholm-wechselt-nach-halle-1.3608919


Very strange, he played a full game in their reserves side 4-1 win last week which was their first of the season (lost their first game). Highlights here (he is number 29).

You would have to wonder what he must be doing if they want him away so quickly especially since he is getting full games for the reserves. If he is going on loan you would think playing in the 4th division in Dusseldorf's system would be better than a different teams system in the third division. here is another article that suggests he is going.

http://www.rp-online.de/sport/fussball/vereine/fortuna/erwin-hoffer-trainiert-am-freitag-bei-der-fortuna-mit-1.3606224

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In addition, Timo Furuholm and Ben Halloran stand before the departure from the state capital.

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No game time for Kruse again. :x
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Rogic just tweeted about leaving for Kazakhstan so hopefully will at least make the bench
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Brilliant save by Ryan just now at full stretch against a bullet header.
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Concedes from a penalty. Got a hand to it but not enough and it squeezes in to the back of the net.

FT. KV Mechelen 1:2 Club Brugge

After watching a couple of Ryan's league games have to say I'm impressed. Seems like he's carried his A-league form to Belgium. Expecting people to disagree but if he can continue to impress and if Schwarzer continues to stay on the bench I'd rather see Ryan as our no.1 in Brazil.

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Higashi wrote:
Concedes from a penalty. Got a hand to it but not enough and it squeezes in to the back of the net.

FT. KV Mechelen 1:2 Club Brugge

After watching a couple of Ryan's league games have to say I'm impressed. Seems like he's carried his A-league form to Belgium. Expecting people to disagree but if he can continue to impress and if Schwarzer continues to stay on the bench I'd rather see Ryan as our no.1 in Brazil.

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Midfielder wrote:
Higashi wrote:
Concedes from a penalty. Got a hand to it but not enough and it squeezes in to the back of the net.

FT. KV Mechelen 1:2 Club Brugge

After watching a couple of Ryan's league games have to say I'm impressed. Seems like he's carried his A-league form to Belgium. Expecting people to disagree but if he can continue to impress and if Schwarzer continues to stay on the bench I'd rather see Ryan as our no.1 in Brazil.

Edited by Higashi: 18/8/2013 03:59:55 AM


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Let's have some respect for a man who has never let his nation down. Until and unless he makes some shocking mistakes for the Socceroos, he should not be replaced.
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sanga1 wrote:
Midfielder wrote:
Higashi wrote:
Concedes from a penalty. Got a hand to it but not enough and it squeezes in to the back of the net.

FT. KV Mechelen 1:2 Club Brugge

After watching a couple of Ryan's league games have to say I'm impressed. Seems like he's carried his A-league form to Belgium. Expecting people to disagree but if he can continue to impress and if Schwarzer continues to stay on the bench I'd rather see Ryan as our no.1 in Brazil.

Edited by Higashi: 18/8/2013 03:59:55 AM


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Let's have some respect for a man who has never let his nation down. Until and unless he makes some shocking mistakes for the Socceroos, he should not be replaced.

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Eastern Glory wrote:
sanga1 wrote:
Midfielder wrote:
Higashi wrote:
Concedes from a penalty. Got a hand to it but not enough and it squeezes in to the back of the net.

FT. KV Mechelen 1:2 Club Brugge

After watching a couple of Ryan's league games have to say I'm impressed. Seems like he's carried his A-league form to Belgium. Expecting people to disagree but if he can continue to impress and if Schwarzer continues to stay on the bench I'd rather see Ryan as our no.1 in Brazil.

Edited by Higashi: 18/8/2013 03:59:55 AM


+ 999999

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Let's have some respect for a man who has never let his nation down. Until and unless he makes some shocking mistakes for the Socceroos, he should not be replaced.

+10000000000000000000000000000000000000


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Because it doesn't matter what you've done in the past if you're not fit you can't play.
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Geez, sad to see Kruse not involved early on in the season. Personally, would've thought most of his involvement would be early on.
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rusty wrote:
Eastern Glory wrote:
sanga1 wrote:
Midfielder wrote:
Higashi wrote:
Concedes from a penalty. Got a hand to it but not enough and it squeezes in to the back of the net.

FT. KV Mechelen 1:2 Club Brugge

After watching a couple of Ryan's league games have to say I'm impressed. Seems like he's carried his A-league form to Belgium. Expecting people to disagree but if he can continue to impress and if Schwarzer continues to stay on the bench I'd rather see Ryan as our no.1 in Brazil.

Edited by Higashi: 18/8/2013 03:59:55 AM


+ 999999

- 999999

Let's have some respect for a man who has never let his nation down. Until and unless he makes some shocking mistakes for the Socceroos, he should not be replaced.

+10000000000000000000000000000000000000


-100000000000000000000000000000000000000

Because it doesn't matter what you've done in the past if you're not fit you can't play.

Who won't be fit? :-k
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